[02:30] <nicklas_> yo
[08:40] <CarlitoNoob> is there a way to create a PXE network bootable floppy disk in Xubuntu?
[14:02] <monocian> Hello everyone. I have one question. Can I change xfce4-mixer to gnome-alsamixer ?
[16:07] <AbhiJit> hi
[16:07] <AbhiJit> what advntge i loose if i go for xubuntu over ubuntu i.e gnome?
[16:12] <BigGreenCanoe> you loose gnome, although xfce will use and run gnome apps
[16:12] <AbhiJit> ok
[16:12] <BigGreenCanoe> personally, i prefer xfce over gnome.
[16:13] <BigGreenCanoe> the underlying system is the same, just setup for xfce as the window manager
[16:14] <charlie-tca> You don't loose any advantages, you gain if you are not using new hardware
[16:14] <AbhiJit> actually now i want my pc as fast as possble for offce wrk song and music. sometimes vedio editing
[16:14] <charlie-tca> -Have you looked at Ubuntustudio?
[16:15] <AbhiJit> charlie-tca, its 1 and half yr old laptop
[16:15] <charlie-tca> It is designed for that
[16:15] <AbhiJit> ok
[16:15] <charlie-tca> If you need openoffice, Ubuntu has it by default. If you don't need it, Xubuntu does not install it
[16:16] <AbhiJit> i need it
[16:16] <AbhiJit> heyy but Ubuntustudio is more artist than office work?
[16:17] <charlie-tca> yes, ubuntustudio is designed for music and song work
[16:17] <AbhiJit> yeah
[16:17] <AbhiJit> my main concern is fast officework
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Then they are about the same with openoffice
[16:18] <AbhiJit> ok
[16:21] <AbhiJit> thank you
[18:07] <tonycrete1991f> hello, can I turn ubuntu in xubuntu?
[18:08] <BigGreenCanoe> tonycreate1991: There is a page on the xubuntu website that tells you houw.  Wait one and I'll get it fir yo
[18:08] <Sysi> !xubuntu
[18:08] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[18:10] <BigGreenCanoe> charlie-tca: is there an xfce replacement for the gnome key-ring ?
[18:10] <charlie-tca> no, Xubuntu uses gnome-keyring
[18:10] <BigGreenCanoe> okay, that's what I thought. Thanks
[18:11] <charlie-tca> however, gnome-keyring does not mean it is gnome
[18:12] <BigGreenCanoe> true, but when I went to remove gnome, it was flagged as well
[18:12] <charlie-tca> just means the Xubuntu developers don't have to maintain a separate keyring
[18:12] <BigGreenCanoe> as was gnucash
[18:13] <BigGreenCanoe> i agree with that.  no reason to duplicate apps.
[18:13] <charlie-tca> Then you should follow the link above to purexfce, and add back the apps you need.
[18:14] <BigGreenCanoe> i did.  it just took me by surprise when it happened.
[18:15] <Hc96> Hi! Do you guys know, which coding system is allowed for user full names in /etc/passwd?
[18:15] <Hc96> I'm having issues with utf-8
[18:16] <Hc96> and the letter é
[18:54] <freeraider> 700mhz / 384mb ram / 10gb hd, läuft xubuntu da überhaupt sinnvoll drauf & wie sieht es mit wlan unterstützung aus muss ich für meine pcmcia karte manuell treiber nachinstallen ?
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Yes, it will work well with Xubuntu.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Can we use English here, please.
[18:56] <charlie-tca> Try the desktop cd as a live environment to see if the wifi card works.
[18:57] <charlie-tca> !german
[23:11] <knome> charlie-tca, what's the main server repository address?
[23:12] <knome> charlie-tca, is it us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[23:12] <knome> charlie-tca, the finnish mirror lacks 3 packages from the default xubuntu-desktop installation
[23:13] <charlie-tca> No, it's the server in UK. Let me look it up
[23:14] <knome> found it
[23:14] <knome> it's just archive.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <charlie-tca> knome: I believe it is archive.ubuntu.com, isn't it?
[23:14]  * charlie-tca hangs head again... too slow
[23:14] <knome> ;)
[23:15] <knome> libwv, libots, tango-icon-theme-common
[23:15] <knome> those were missing
[23:15] <charlie-tca> weird
[23:15] <knome> that was actually keeping me from installing xubuntu from the desktop cd as i selected the finnish server...
[23:15] <knome> and the minimal cd as well
[23:15] <knome> then i just installed the core
[23:15] <knome> and logged into shell
[23:17] <charlie-tca> Sounds like the vinnl way ;-)
[23:17] <Sysi> knome: maverick?
[23:17] <knome> Sysi, yeah.
[23:21] <The_Maverick> i was wondering if there was any way to enable placing a picture from the web to my desktop via dragging.
[23:21] <knome> actually, this laptop i'm installing xubuntu to, said it reached critical temperature (95C) and shut down. guess what was wrong? i tried to boot from usb, so the pc decided not to work...
[23:22] <charlie-tca> forgot the sensors package?
[23:22] <knome> no, i was trying to run the installator from usb...
[23:22] <knome> and the pc definitely was not running @95C
[23:23] <knome> so then i went to burn the desktop cd, which failed (due to the packages missing) and then the minimal cd, which also failed at first
[23:27] <The_Maverick> lol can anyone help with the dragging items from the internet to desktop issue?
[23:27] <charlie-tca> The_Maverick: I don't think you can set the background image using drag and drop
[23:28] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: i think he means just saving it to the desktop
[23:28] <charlie-tca> Can you tell him how, dr4c4n
[23:28] <The_Maverick> lol i just want to take a picture and put it on my desktop.
[23:29] <The_Maverick> from the internet to the desktop by dragging it. i do this pretty often.
[23:29] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: I thought dragging would work, I think you can drag to the desktop folder using the file manager (thunar / nautilus)
[23:29] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: try that, try dragging to one of the file managers
[23:30] <knome> charlie-tca, btw, is there a way to automate all the updates without any prompt from user?
[23:30] <dr4c4n> if that doesn't work.. one moment, I'm not sure if you're capable of doing that.. there's always right click / save image as
[23:30] <freeraider> how do i cahnge resolution ?
[23:30] <Sysi> knome: isn't there setting in update manager? at least you can use crontab
[23:30] <The_Maverick> lol thats a lot of time spent saving image.
[23:31] <freeraider> just installed xubuntu
[23:31] <knome> Sysi, maybe, i've just never done that so i really don't know...
[23:31] <freeraider> and it's just a small resolution
[23:31] <Sysi> crontab isn't very hard
[23:31] <charlie-tca> knome: using software sources, you can install all security updates automatically, and download all others automatically, but I don't think it will install them automatically
[23:32] <knome> just a moment ago i got a soft lockup from kernel when the installation of packages was about to go towards configuring
[23:32] <knome> Sysi, no i mean, i know cron :P
[23:32] <knome> Sysi, but not the automated updates...
[23:32] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: Problem solved?
[23:32] <charlie-tca> the reason being sometimes the user has to tell hit okay to continue
[23:32] <xubuntu407>  
[23:32] <dr4c4n> xubuntu407: you have much to say
[23:32] <charlie-tca> You can't have auto updates, if the user is not there to hit enter on the ones that require user intervention to continue
[23:33] <knome> charlie-tca, except if you run some apt-command from commandline with the option -y (or sth, which just answers yes to anything...)
[23:33] <The_Maverick> dr4c4n no. no one mentioned if there was a way
[23:33] <knome> charlie-tca,   -y  Assume Yes to all queries and do not prompt
[23:33] <charlie-tca> yeah, but I would not ever want to just assume yes
[23:33] <charlie-tca> I tend to modify some of those files, myself
[23:33] <freeraider> how can i change resolution ?
[23:33] <knome> i would, if this is a pc for my friends' parents :P
[23:34] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: you can suggest that to the XFCE dev team to accept files like that either that or from firefox, which I think has it built in, just not working for xfce, for now, just right click the image and save as, so u do 2 clicks, but less moving of the mouse
[23:34] <Sysi> freeraider: we need more information, at least your gpu model
[23:35] <charlie-tca> dr4c4n and The_Maverick : you won't get automatic downloads because of security concerns. We want the user to okay the download file.
[23:35] <freeraider> . /etc/X11/xorg.conf isn't even there
[23:35] <The_Maverick> dr4c4n a bit unfortunate. guess that will suffice...
[23:35] <charlie-tca> there is an option in firefox to auto download some file types, you can enable, thought.
[23:35] <Sysi> freeraider: not by default anymore
[23:35] <The_Maverick> gnome does it
[23:36] <charlie-tca> freeraider: if the resolution is not in Display settings, you can add an /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it will get used
[23:36] <charlie-tca> The_Maverick: This is not gnome
[23:36] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: i like having that extra okay click too :) thanks for the info
[23:36] <The_Maverick> charlie-tca yeah. this is a bit lacking in functionality. i appreciate the help though
[23:36] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: I find it faster than having to situate windows / move the mouse too much
[23:37] <dr4c4n> it's all a matter of preference
[23:37] <Sysi> if you like gnome more, use it
[23:37] <charlie-tca> The_Maverick: actually, this is more configurable, but the user is expected to set the configuration options themselves.
[23:37] <The_Maverick> so... there IS a way to do that?
[23:37] <charlie-tca> Functionality is there, you just have to work to get to it
[23:38] <The_Maverick> if there isnt... then that would mean that there isnt the functionality.
[23:38] <charlie-tca> Go into firefox preferences and set it to autodownload that file type
[23:38] <dr4c4n> it's super secret
[23:38] <dr4c4n> (just kidding)
[23:38] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[23:38] <charlie-tca> You won't even have to touch the file...
[23:38] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: that's where I looked first, couldn't see that
[23:39] <dr4c4n> hi ShootEmUp
[23:39] <ShootEmUp> whats up?
[23:39] <Sysi> clean desktop ♥
[23:39] <charlie-tca> I run natty, with firefox 4.0b8, which is quite a change
[23:39] <ShootEmUp> :(
[23:39] <dr4c4n> Sysi: congrats
[23:39] <ShootEmUp> my bad :)
[23:39] <knome> Sysi, so, you are suggesting to turn on the automatic security updates and then something like 'apt-get upgrade -y' in cron?
[23:40] <charlie-tca> Sysi: I keep thinking, someday... :-)
[23:40] <Sysi> dr4c4n: not really, i'm just neurotic
[23:40] <Sysi> knome: not both propably
[23:40] <knome> Sysi, right
[23:41] <dr4c4n> sysi: my clean desktop occurs on new install after I've installed and tried so many things get broken lol and stuff's all over the place. it takes me a day to backup, sort, reload and find everything
[23:41] <knome> i don't see how they'd mess up each other though
[23:41] <charlie-tca> ShootEmUp:  help with the dragging items from the internet to desktop issue?
[23:42] <ShootEmUp> okay, like pics?
[23:42] <charlie-tca> The_Maverick: ^ ^
[23:42] <ShootEmUp> what do you meen by that?
[23:43] <charlie-tca> The_Maverick wants to know the answer
[23:43] <charlie-tca> and ShootEmUp is good with answers
[23:43] <ShootEmUp> ahh ok
[23:44] <ShootEmUp> If its a picture, try right clicking and press "save as.."
[23:44] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: is there an ubottu available for download to see all available commands for it.. just curious
[23:44] <dr4c4n> charlie-tca: prerequisite game to be played by new users, might be fun!
[23:44] <dr4c4n> or an irc channel just devoted to a bot like that
[23:45] <charlie-tca> dr4c4n: here they are... http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <charlie-tca> the channel is #ubottu
[23:45] <The_Maverick> lol thats the thing. i dont want to have to go through a page clicking save as on each picture. i could drag (throw) 5 pictures in the time it takes to do that. is there really no way?
[23:45] <ShootEmUp> I just want to see if the web browser can save the pics to your computer
[23:46] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: autodownload as charlie-tca mentioned?? it's in firefox prefs?
[23:46] <dr4c4n> I'll see if I can find it with u
[23:46] <The_Maverick> yes it can
[23:46] <ShootEmUp> sorry FF is not my area, I use crome
[23:47] <The_Maverick> dr4c4n autodownload is not the same thing as dragging a pic to the desktop.
[23:47] <dr4c4n> ShootEmUp chrome preferences probably has something similar
[23:48] <ShootEmUp> I can just drag and drop
[23:48] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: write a script using wget to grab all the .ext tension of ur choice
[23:48] <dr4c4n> The_Maverick: try chrome?
[23:49] <freeraider> . /etc/X11/xorg.conf so wherre is this file now on default ?
[23:49] <The_Maverick> dr4c4n it is in NO way the browser. i think it is just xfce. maybe i should just suggest implementing it.
[23:50] <freeraider> or should i just create one and put it there ?
[23:50] <charlie-tca> freeraider: it is not anywhere by default. You can create it
[23:50] <ShootEmUp> freeraider, nowhere. just make a blank
[23:52] <freeraider> then reboot ?
[23:52] <ShootEmUp> freeraider, yes
[23:52] <freeraider> ty
[23:53] <ShootEmUp> The_Maverick. seems like FF will not drag and drop for me
[23:53] <The_Maverick> shootemup but chrome will?
[23:53] <ShootEmUp> The_Maverick, yes
[23:54] <The_Maverick> shootemup im using chromium, ff and ff4beta and none of them do.
[23:54]  * charlie-tca knew ShootEmUp and The_Maverick needed to get together on that one... 
[23:54] <ShootEmUp> ?.... seems to be a bug with xfce me thinks
[23:54] <ShootEmUp> GOOGLE TIME!
[23:55] <charlie-tca> what download manager is Ubuntu using to make that work?
[23:57] <The_Maverick> shootemup i have installed xubuntu three times prior and it never lets me do this.
[23:58] <ShootEmUp> The_Maverick, looks like it is disabled in ubuntu... not sure why
[23:59] <ShootEmUp> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=663230#p663230
[23:59] <ShootEmUp> something that might help
[23:59] <The_Maverick> shootemup i can do it in gnome, i could do it when i had xubuntu installed next to gnome, but when i get rid of i think the whole gnome essentials. "it cease to be"