=== UBUxUBU is now known as uBUXUBu [02:30] yo === jwkokc is now known as jk_ [08:40] is there a way to create a PXE network bootable floppy disk in Xubuntu? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [14:02] Hello everyone. I have one question. Can I change xfce4-mixer to gnome-alsamixer ? === sresu is now known as sre-su [16:07] hi [16:07] what advntge i loose if i go for xubuntu over ubuntu i.e gnome? [16:12] you loose gnome, although xfce will use and run gnome apps [16:12] ok [16:12] personally, i prefer xfce over gnome. [16:13] the underlying system is the same, just setup for xfce as the window manager [16:14] You don't loose any advantages, you gain if you are not using new hardware [16:14] actually now i want my pc as fast as possble for offce wrk song and music. sometimes vedio editing [16:14] -Have you looked at Ubuntustudio? [16:15] charlie-tca, its 1 and half yr old laptop [16:15] It is designed for that [16:15] ok [16:15] If you need openoffice, Ubuntu has it by default. If you don't need it, Xubuntu does not install it [16:16] i need it [16:16] heyy but Ubuntustudio is more artist than office work? [16:17] yes, ubuntustudio is designed for music and song work [16:17] yeah [16:17] my main concern is fast officework [16:18] Then they are about the same with openoffice [16:18] ok [16:21] thank you === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [18:07] hello, can I turn ubuntu in xubuntu? [18:08] tonycreate1991: There is a page on the xubuntu website that tells you houw. Wait one and I'll get it fir yo [18:08] !xubuntu [18:08] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [18:08] !purexfce [18:08] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [18:10] charlie-tca: is there an xfce replacement for the gnome key-ring ? [18:10] no, Xubuntu uses gnome-keyring [18:10] okay, that's what I thought. Thanks [18:11] however, gnome-keyring does not mean it is gnome [18:12] true, but when I went to remove gnome, it was flagged as well [18:12] just means the Xubuntu developers don't have to maintain a separate keyring [18:12] as was gnucash [18:13] i agree with that. no reason to duplicate apps. [18:13] Then you should follow the link above to purexfce, and add back the apps you need. [18:14] i did. it just took me by surprise when it happened. [18:15] Hi! Do you guys know, which coding system is allowed for user full names in /etc/passwd? [18:15] I'm having issues with utf-8 [18:16] and the letter é === sresu is now known as sre-su [18:54] 700mhz / 384mb ram / 10gb hd, läuft xubuntu da überhaupt sinnvoll drauf & wie sieht es mit wlan unterstützung aus muss ich für meine pcmcia karte manuell treiber nachinstallen ? [18:55] Yes, it will work well with Xubuntu. [18:55] Can we use English here, please. [18:56] Try the desktop cd as a live environment to see if the wifi card works. [18:57] !german [18:57] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [23:11] charlie-tca, what's the main server repository address? [23:12] charlie-tca, is it us.archive.ubuntu.com? [23:12] charlie-tca, the finnish mirror lacks 3 packages from the default xubuntu-desktop installation [23:13] No, it's the server in UK. Let me look it up [23:14] found it [23:14] it's just archive.ubuntu.com [23:14] knome: I believe it is archive.ubuntu.com, isn't it? [23:14] * charlie-tca hangs head again... too slow [23:14] ;) [23:15] libwv, libots, tango-icon-theme-common [23:15] those were missing [23:15] weird [23:15] that was actually keeping me from installing xubuntu from the desktop cd as i selected the finnish server... [23:15] and the minimal cd as well [23:15] then i just installed the core [23:15] and logged into shell [23:17] Sounds like the vinnl way ;-) [23:17] knome: maverick? [23:17] Sysi, yeah. [23:21] i was wondering if there was any way to enable placing a picture from the web to my desktop via dragging. [23:21] actually, this laptop i'm installing xubuntu to, said it reached critical temperature (95C) and shut down. guess what was wrong? i tried to boot from usb, so the pc decided not to work... [23:22] forgot the sensors package? [23:22] no, i was trying to run the installator from usb... [23:22] and the pc definitely was not running @95C [23:23] so then i went to burn the desktop cd, which failed (due to the packages missing) and then the minimal cd, which also failed at first [23:27] lol can anyone help with the dragging items from the internet to desktop issue? [23:27] The_Maverick: I don't think you can set the background image using drag and drop [23:28] charlie-tca: i think he means just saving it to the desktop [23:28] Can you tell him how, dr4c4n [23:28] lol i just want to take a picture and put it on my desktop. [23:29] from the internet to the desktop by dragging it. i do this pretty often. [23:29] charlie-tca: I thought dragging would work, I think you can drag to the desktop folder using the file manager (thunar / nautilus) [23:29] The_Maverick: try that, try dragging to one of the file managers [23:30] charlie-tca, btw, is there a way to automate all the updates without any prompt from user? [23:30] if that doesn't work.. one moment, I'm not sure if you're capable of doing that.. there's always right click / save image as [23:30] how do i cahnge resolution ? [23:30] knome: isn't there setting in update manager? at least you can use crontab [23:30] lol thats a lot of time spent saving image. [23:31] just installed xubuntu [23:31] Sysi, maybe, i've just never done that so i really don't know... [23:31] and it's just a small resolution [23:31] crontab isn't very hard [23:31] knome: using software sources, you can install all security updates automatically, and download all others automatically, but I don't think it will install them automatically [23:32] just a moment ago i got a soft lockup from kernel when the installation of packages was about to go towards configuring [23:32] Sysi, no i mean, i know cron :P [23:32] Sysi, but not the automated updates... [23:32] The_Maverick: Problem solved? [23:32] the reason being sometimes the user has to tell hit okay to continue [23:32] [23:32] xubuntu407: you have much to say [23:32] You can't have auto updates, if the user is not there to hit enter on the ones that require user intervention to continue [23:33] charlie-tca, except if you run some apt-command from commandline with the option -y (or sth, which just answers yes to anything...) [23:33] dr4c4n no. no one mentioned if there was a way [23:33] charlie-tca, -y Assume Yes to all queries and do not prompt [23:33] yeah, but I would not ever want to just assume yes [23:33] I tend to modify some of those files, myself [23:33] how can i change resolution ? [23:33] i would, if this is a pc for my friends' parents :P [23:34] The_Maverick: you can suggest that to the XFCE dev team to accept files like that either that or from firefox, which I think has it built in, just not working for xfce, for now, just right click the image and save as, so u do 2 clicks, but less moving of the mouse [23:34] freeraider: we need more information, at least your gpu model [23:35] dr4c4n and The_Maverick : you won't get automatic downloads because of security concerns. We want the user to okay the download file. [23:35] . /etc/X11/xorg.conf isn't even there [23:35] dr4c4n a bit unfortunate. guess that will suffice... [23:35] there is an option in firefox to auto download some file types, you can enable, thought. [23:35] freeraider: not by default anymore [23:35] gnome does it [23:36] freeraider: if the resolution is not in Display settings, you can add an /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it will get used [23:36] The_Maverick: This is not gnome [23:36] charlie-tca: i like having that extra okay click too :) thanks for the info [23:36] charlie-tca yeah. this is a bit lacking in functionality. i appreciate the help though [23:36] The_Maverick: I find it faster than having to situate windows / move the mouse too much [23:37] it's all a matter of preference [23:37] if you like gnome more, use it [23:37] The_Maverick: actually, this is more configurable, but the user is expected to set the configuration options themselves. [23:37] so... there IS a way to do that? [23:37] Functionality is there, you just have to work to get to it [23:38] if there isnt... then that would mean that there isnt the functionality. [23:38] Go into firefox preferences and set it to autodownload that file type [23:38] it's super secret [23:38] (just kidding) [23:38] Hello Everyone! [23:38] You won't even have to touch the file... [23:38] charlie-tca: that's where I looked first, couldn't see that [23:39] hi ShootEmUp [23:39] whats up? [23:39] clean desktop ♥ [23:39] I run natty, with firefox 4.0b8, which is quite a change [23:39] :( [23:39] Sysi: congrats [23:39] my bad :) [23:39] Sysi, so, you are suggesting to turn on the automatic security updates and then something like 'apt-get upgrade -y' in cron? [23:40] Sysi: I keep thinking, someday... :-) [23:40] dr4c4n: not really, i'm just neurotic [23:40] knome: not both propably [23:40] Sysi, right [23:41] sysi: my clean desktop occurs on new install after I've installed and tried so many things get broken lol and stuff's all over the place. it takes me a day to backup, sort, reload and find everything [23:41] i don't see how they'd mess up each other though [23:41] ShootEmUp: help with the dragging items from the internet to desktop issue? [23:42] okay, like pics? [23:42] The_Maverick: ^ ^ [23:42] what do you meen by that? [23:43] The_Maverick wants to know the answer [23:43] and ShootEmUp is good with answers [23:43] ahh ok [23:44] If its a picture, try right clicking and press "save as.." [23:44] charlie-tca: is there an ubottu available for download to see all available commands for it.. just curious [23:44] charlie-tca: prerequisite game to be played by new users, might be fun! [23:44] or an irc channel just devoted to a bot like that [23:45] dr4c4n: here they are... http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi [23:45] the channel is #ubottu [23:45] lol thats the thing. i dont want to have to go through a page clicking save as on each picture. i could drag (throw) 5 pictures in the time it takes to do that. is there really no way? [23:45] I just want to see if the web browser can save the pics to your computer [23:46] The_Maverick: autodownload as charlie-tca mentioned?? it's in firefox prefs? [23:46] I'll see if I can find it with u [23:46] yes it can [23:46] sorry FF is not my area, I use crome [23:47] dr4c4n autodownload is not the same thing as dragging a pic to the desktop. [23:47] ShootEmUp chrome preferences probably has something similar [23:48] I can just drag and drop [23:48] The_Maverick: write a script using wget to grab all the .ext tension of ur choice [23:48] The_Maverick: try chrome? [23:49] . /etc/X11/xorg.conf so wherre is this file now on default ? [23:49] dr4c4n it is in NO way the browser. i think it is just xfce. maybe i should just suggest implementing it. [23:50] or should i just create one and put it there ? [23:50] freeraider: it is not anywhere by default. You can create it [23:50] freeraider, nowhere. just make a blank [23:52] then reboot ? [23:52] freeraider, yes [23:52] ty [23:53] The_Maverick. seems like FF will not drag and drop for me [23:53] shootemup but chrome will? [23:53] The_Maverick, yes [23:54] shootemup im using chromium, ff and ff4beta and none of them do. [23:54] * charlie-tca knew ShootEmUp and The_Maverick needed to get together on that one... [23:54] ?.... seems to be a bug with xfce me thinks [23:54] GOOGLE TIME! [23:55] what download manager is Ubuntu using to make that work? [23:57] shootemup i have installed xubuntu three times prior and it never lets me do this. [23:58] The_Maverick, looks like it is disabled in ubuntu... not sure why [23:59] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=663230#p663230 [23:59] something that might help [23:59] shootemup i can do it in gnome, i could do it when i had xubuntu installed next to gnome, but when i get rid of i think the whole gnome essentials. "it cease to be"