| buck20 | hey there | 05:07 |
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| buck20 | what ide is everyone using to work on bite size bugs? | 05:08 |
| akshatj | buck20: you can use any IDE you want | 05:09 |
| buck20 | right but im a total noob to unity, would love a suggestion and a couple pointers to setting up a test environment.... | 05:10 |
| buck20 | maybe a link to a tutorial? | 05:16 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:17 |
| MacSlow | salut didrocks | 08:24 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen MacSlow. How are you? | 08:24 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, I'm fine... and yourself? | 08:25 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: still under a small cold. But will be better in next few days :) | 08:26 |
| MacSlow | hey dbarth | 08:26 |
| didrocks | salut dbarth | 08:26 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, winter has us all in its grip | 08:26 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: yeah, in a sense, it's nice to see we can still have a real winter, it was years here I didn't see a real one | 08:27 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, if I want a real winter I would prefer to have to travel to place that provides one... instead of having it right here :) | 08:46 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: hehe, that's right, I won't mind if we would go again in Orlando to avoid it btw :) | 08:47 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, oh yeah... that was nice! | 08:48 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, good morning, got a minute for a review ? | 09:28 |
| ronoc | https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-sound/blacklisted/+merge/45255 | 09:28 |
| kamstrup | dbarth_: cann you pull dee trunk again and retry | 09:41 |
| kamstrup | ronoc: on it | 09:41 |
| kamstrup | ronoc: approved | 09:44 |
| kamstrup | dbarth_, didrocks: the dee build issue was related to the direct linking in N. The patch is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551003/ | 09:46 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: do you wanna point release of dee 0.5.2 or just distro patch? | 09:46 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: it was built on the distro, so no worry, just commit to trunk | 09:47 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: we don't rebuild the doc there | 09:47 |
| didrocks | it's only for the daily build | 09:47 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: kewl | 09:47 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, thx dude | 09:47 |
| ronoc | seb128, will have a release for you today | 09:48 |
| seb128 | hey ronoc, ok | 09:49 |
| dbarth_ | kamstrup: works! i've restarted a build and the package should follow | 09:51 |
| dbarth_ | thanks | 09:51 |
| ronoc | seb128, will a new rhythmbox be available any time soon. I'm keen to test their playlist implementation. | 09:52 |
| seb128 | ronoc, depends if they roll a tarball I guess | 09:52 |
| seb128 | I don't plan to package git snapshots this cycle,especially than banshee is the default player now | 09:53 |
| MacSlow | hm... still have a lag of ~ .5 sec for mouse-events to be recognized in unity if I use trunk | 10:06 |
| ronoc | seb128, moch said he will roll a tar ball more than likely next weekend, we can talk about it in Dallas | 10:25 |
| cando | hi DBO, when you've some time i've proposed a merge for a bitesize bug: https://code.launchpad.net/~cando/unity/fix_688407/+merge/45216 | 10:51 |
| cando | thanks | 10:51 |
| ronoc | mpt: good morning, were in contact with the clementine developers | 10:58 |
| ronoc | I think i remember responding to an email to one of their developers but i didn't hear any feedback | 10:59 |
| mpt | ronoc, are you asking me if I was? | 10:59 |
| mpt | or saying that you were? | 10:59 |
| mpt | Good morning btw :-) | 10:59 |
| ronoc | mpt, I was asking if you were and if so could you point me towards their email address, irc room, forum, pidgeon ... | 11:00 |
| mpt | ronoc, no, I don't know who they are or where they hang out, sorry | 11:00 |
| ronoc | sorry forgot the all important you | 11:00 |
| ronoc | mpt, grand thx | 11:00 |
| didrocks | ronoc: hum, thinking about it, were there any discussion about displaying "previous song: <…>" in the soundmenu indicator? | 11:03 |
| didrocks | ronoc: I saw most online radio are doing that and it's useful sometimes, like "waow, this music is good, what was it?" | 11:03 |
| ronoc | didrocks, no not that I'm aware of, but I feel radio has a different use case in that once its played its gone for ever while most usecases for mediaplayers the user can determine what was played before via play queue/playlist etc | 11:04 |
| didrocks | ronoc: even with "shuffle"? | 11:05 |
| didrocks | but yeah, in any case, maybe it should be in the mediaplayers in that case | 11:05 |
| ronoc | didrocks, true but that is what automatic scrobbling is for :). It would be useful but I think there are other features which would get my vote before this, but its all question of not cluttering the UI which is tricky. | 11:06 |
| ronoc | didrocks, per media application volume I think gets my +1 | 11:06 |
| didrocks | in the indicator? I remember some discussions about it :) | 11:07 |
| ronoc | didrocks, how's Lyon ? | 11:07 |
| ronoc | didrocks, yeah it has been mentioned a few times | 11:07 |
| didrocks | ronoc: cold right now :) but awesome (I felt at home, as when I was studying there), thanks! Just missing an Internet connexion at home | 11:07 |
| ronoc | didrocks, waiting to be connected up ? | 11:08 |
| didrocks | ronoc: exactly, so no phone/internet/tv right now | 11:08 |
| ronoc | didrocks, i did a fresh install of banshee on my Natty and it keeps crashing when I try to play anything ? | 11:08 |
| ronoc | i know they are preping a release right now but can you reproduce this. | 11:09 |
| didrocks | ronoc: oh? I'm playing with it since this morning and got no issue there | 11:09 |
| didrocks | ronoc: did you reported the bug? | 11:09 |
| ronoc | didrocks, no just testing it currently | 11:09 |
| ronoc | didrocks, have you the standard natty release for banshee -> 1.9.1-1ubuntu2 | 11:10 |
| didrocks | ronoc: yep | 11:11 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| ronoc | gabaug, any progress on this bug -> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634895 | 12:15 |
| === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth | ||
| klattimer | mpt: is there a spec for datetime? | 12:31 |
| * klattimer is currently writing the appointments ido widget for datetime EDS stuff | 12:31 | |
| kamstrup | gord: how you feel about moving the perf logger out of libunity? unity is not really mean to link against libunity (go figure :-)) | 12:38 |
| gord | kamstrup, not too bothered one way or another, some people wanted to use it for compiz startup performance but its small enough to copy around anyway | 12:41 |
| mpt | klattimer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate | 12:42 |
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| klattimer | ah | 13:07 |
| klattimer | ... you have appointments as menu items? | 13:07 |
| klattimer | grr, stupid launchpad limitation, can't use the same url for more than one blueprint | 13:09 |
| mpt | klattimer, were you expecting something different? | 13:30 |
| klattimer | mpt: I was hoping | 13:30 |
| klattimer | :/ | 13:30 |
| klattimer | well, for the menu design | 13:30 |
| klattimer | as I hadn't found the spec | 13:30 |
| klattimer | I was building a treeview | 13:30 |
| klattimer | but this is cool too | 13:30 |
| klattimer | I didn't really do much treeview specific code | 13:30 |
| klattimer | mpt: no tasks in the view at all? | 13:32 |
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| mpt | klattimer, I don't know what you mean by "tasks" or view" | 13:35 |
| klattimer | calendar tasks, in the date time menu | 13:35 |
| mpt | What's the difference between a task and an appointment? | 13:36 |
| kamstrup | ronoc: do you also get a metric tonne of warnings when compiling vala stuff with gdbus? | 13:53 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, yup, loads | 13:53 |
| kamstrup | ronoc: ok... most look harmless, but some of them ticks me off... | 13:54 |
| kamstrup | like "expected ‘struct UnityPlaceService *’ but argument is of type ‘struct GDBusProxy *’" | 13:54 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, yeah i gave up fighting vala warnings, just presumed the newer releases of vala would become smarter | 13:55 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, yeah i get similar ones like this | 13:55 |
| mpt | klattimer, oh, I see. Calendar events have a time, tasks have a start date and due date, and memos have a start date | 13:55 |
| mpt | klattimer, do you think we should include all three? | 13:55 |
| mpt | Or just calendar events and tasks? | 13:55 |
| klattimer | well I dunno | 13:56 |
| mpt | Or just calendar events? | 13:56 |
| klattimer | screen hight is a concern | 13:56 |
| klattimer | how many appointments do we want to show max for instance | 13:56 |
| mpt | That's kind of orthogonal, though -- you might have a really full calendar too | 13:56 |
| klattimer | and do we want to show both appointments and tasks, but appointments in the near future have priority over tasks being displayed | 13:56 |
| klattimer | say you have "max items" set to 10 | 13:56 |
| klattimer | and you have 3 appointments today, then 7 of your "todo" items will show up | 13:57 |
| klattimer | if you have 7 appointments today, then 3 of your todo items will show up | 13:57 |
| klattimer | ... what do you think? | 13:57 |
| kamstrup | ronoc: the changelog for the latest vala (0.11.3) mentions some warnig cleanups related to dbus | 13:57 |
| kamstrup | so here's to hoping :-) | 13:57 |
| mpt | klattimer, wait, wait, to-do items? What are they? :-) | 13:58 |
| klattimer | todo == task | 13:58 |
| mpt | ok | 13:59 |
| ronoc | kamstrup, cool good to know | 14:00 |
| mpt | Appointments and All Day Appointments and Meetings and Tasks and Assigned Tasks and Memos and Shared Memos, oh my | 14:00 |
| mpt | Someone on the Evolution design team needs to learn the principle of Delayed Decision | 14:00 |
| klattimer | mpt | 14:00 |
| klattimer | the api is worse | 14:00 |
| mpt | Well, at least I've made your life easier by saying they should be shown as ordinary menu items | 14:01 |
| klattimer | yeah | 14:01 |
| klattimer | oh, btw all the translations are mismatched and out of date | 14:01 |
| klattimer | does that just get hoovered up in the process? | 14:02 |
| mpt | If you're asking me that, I don't know anything about translations to do with this | 14:03 |
| mpt | klattimer, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=17&rev1=16> | 14:10 |
| mpt | Does that look sensible? | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | good morning tedg | 14:21 |
| tedg | Good morning Mr. kenvandine | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | i am playing with appmenu-gtk :) | 14:21 |
| tedg | Oh, cool. I really couldn't believe that it was working last night. | 14:22 |
| tedg | I mean, I write the best code ever seen by man, but even I usually have a few bugs ;) | 14:22 |
| spikeb | lol | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | tedg, roflmao | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:29 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, seb128 -> https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.5.4 | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, i'll get that | 14:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 14:39 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, no panic, there are alot of changes in this one, so lets see how it behaves. | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, don't scare me :) | 14:39 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, well distcheck worked that's all :) | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | ugh... nothing else worked? /me ducks | 14:41 |
| klattimer | mpt yeah fine | 14:41 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: hi - do you have some changes to push to your dee branch, or what's the status? | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | hey kamstrup, not really | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | i am getting a segfault now | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | i added the override | 14:43 |
| mpt | kvalo, hi. If a WEP key is 26 hexadecimal characters, how many Ascii characters is it? | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | args of course is a tuple | 14:43 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: so installing a .py with overrides? | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | calling set_schema_full with a tuple doesn't work, and making it a string causes it to segfault | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:44 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: if you just push what you have I can play around with it tonight | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | well, i didn't add that to my branch | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | local testing | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | i can pastebin it for you though :) | 14:44 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: ok... i'll just see if I can cook something up tonight then | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | i am pretty bummed it isn't working yet... i had hoped to have gotten way past this before the rally :/ | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, excellent | 14:45 |
| kvalo | mpt: hi. I'm on holiday today, but it's then 26 ascii characters | 14:47 |
| mpt | kvalo, so no matter whether someone is entering the key hexadecimally or Ascii-ly, we should make sure they type exactly 26 characters? | 14:48 |
| mpt | kvalo, sorry to disturb your holiday :-) | 14:48 |
| kvalo | mpt: no worries, my answers will just take longer :) | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/551091/ | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | that is the current state | 14:50 |
| kvalo | mpt: iirc ascii key in that case (for 104-bit key) should be 13 characters. but let me think about this a bit | 14:51 |
| * kvalo hates wep | 14:51 | |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, and i pushed my latest changes to lp:~ken-vandine/dee/gir-fixes/ | 14:52 |
| kvalo | mpt: yeah, it should like that. for 104 bit key: 26 chars if in hex mode, 13 chars if in ascii mode | 14:53 |
| mpt | kvalo, I think everyone hates WEP at this point :-) | 14:53 |
| mpt | kvalo, ok, that's what I needed, thanks | 14:54 |
| kvalo | mpt: yw | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | tedg, libappindicator still has a bunch of tests that include dbus/dbus-glib.h | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | and dbusmenu still has two headers that include it too | 15:11 |
| lamalex | didrocks, how do you add an entry to gdm login sessions | 15:12 |
| didrocks | lamalex: look at the .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions/ | 15:12 |
| lamalex | thanks | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | tedg, indicator-application also has some includes for dbus-glib | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | i assume we should remove those | 15:27 |
| ronoc | agateau, did you get that email ? | 15:38 |
| agateau | ronoc: yes I did | 15:38 |
| ronoc | agateau, when will there be a release ready with this fixed ? | 15:39 |
| agateau | ronoc: I am really busy with other projects right now, if you can corner me in Dallas next week maybe you can coerce me into fixing it | 15:40 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I need to start porting the individual indicators -- but I don't think that'll break things. | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | ah, ok | 15:40 |
| ronoc | agateau, right, well its literally a one line fix and without it amarok will not work from the menu | 15:40 |
| ronoc | agateau, we can talk in Dallas | 15:41 |
| agateau | ronoc: fine | 15:41 |
| agateau | ronoc: maybe you can try to create a symlink meanwhile, so that you can test? | 15:45 |
| * agateau feels bad for blocking ronoc | 15:45 | |
| ronoc | agateau, its not blocking me, no panic, I tested already yesterday and it works nicely with the kde4- prefix | 15:46 |
| agateau | ronoc: do you mean you sent me a patch and I missed it? | 15:47 |
| ronoc | agateau, just doing the integration rounds over the past day to ensure all players are still working with the new registration mechanism | 15:47 |
| ronoc | agateau, no i just assigned you a bug :) | 15:47 |
| jcastro | ronoc: I see someone sent in a proposal to fix the volume mouse-wheel scrolling | 15:48 |
| agateau | ronoc: oh ok, since you said you tested with the kde4- prefix I assumed you patched Amarok | 15:48 |
| ronoc | agateau, oh yeah and libindicate can be dropped as dep, all you need is to follow the mpris spec | 15:48 |
| agateau | ronoc: good news | 15:48 |
| ronoc | brb | 15:56 |
| tedg | kenvandine, How are you doing? Things exploding? | 16:08 |
| sladen | MacSlow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/697791 posted another follow-up to that, I'm not convined that just bumping by 1-pixel will solve much | 16:21 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, any joy ? | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, i'll get to it soon, still getting stuff rebuilt for tedg's gdbus ports :) | 16:26 |
| ronoc | ah cool | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | for some insane reason, i am about to test his code on my main laptop, i must be insane | 16:28 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, playing with fire there :) | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | considering last time i did this, i spent the day with my wifi flapping up and down because of a dbusmenu bug driving nm-applet nuts | 16:31 |
| kaini | Hi. I am using the Python appindicator library and I can't get the indicator to display complex widgets (like the Sound Indicator does), I tried gtk.Button, gtk.Image and even a gtk.Table (filled with gtk.Labels). Is there any way to display compex widgets in an appindicator? | 16:34 |
| tedg | kaini, Not really currently. The sound menu isn't using the appindicator library, which has easier to use, but simpler menu support. | 16:34 |
| tedg | kaini, We want to increase the features of the menu support, but that's a work in progress today. | 16:35 |
| kaini | tedg, That's a pity to hear, but thanks for the information! May I ask how the Sound indicator does that? I skimmed though the source code but it looks like a mess of C to me :) | 16:38 |
| tedg | kaini, The sound indicator is actually using a different interface. Basically it can build it's own custom widgets with Cairo (which it does). | 16:39 |
| tedg | kaini, It means for instance the sound indicator won't work on KDE. | 16:40 |
| kaini | Okay | 16:41 |
| kaini | I guess I'll stick to text then | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | tedg, good and bad news | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | good news is my session logged in and is mostly usable | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | bad news is, the unity panel service can't load any indicators | 16:43 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Woot! Unity bug, I'm off for the rest of the week ;) | 16:43 |
| * kenvandine looks for a bat | 16:44 | |
| tedg | Are the indicators linking to different versions of dbusmenu? | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | i am assuming | 16:44 |
| tedg | Did you rebuild any of them in that PPA? | 16:44 |
| tedg | Oh, you don't have split indicator-application do you? | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | yes i do | 16:44 |
| tedg | Hmmm.... | 16:45 |
| tedg | Can you do an ldd on the /usr/lib/indicators/ .so files and see which dbusmenu's they're using? | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | ok, so indicator-loader can load libmessaging.so | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | but unity panel can't | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | maybe unity needs a rebuild? | 16:46 |
| tedg | In theory it shouldn't... | 16:47 |
| tedg | I'd check the linking first. The Unity panel service may be lying about where it's problem is. | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | oh... wait | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | the panel is loading some of them | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | i miss read the output | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | it is timing out though | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | so either it never loads libsession.so or it loads that and fails on the next one | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | wish it was easier to figure out what was causing the panel to stop loading :/ | 16:51 |
| kenvandine | indicator-loader can load appmenu too | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | and libapplication | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | and libsession | 16:52 |
| jcastro | bratsche: how did the eclipse menu thing end up going? progress? | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | and libme | 16:52 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I imagine that individuals are fine. It's just putting them together is a problem. | 16:53 |
| tedg | kenvandine, ldd please :) | 16:53 |
| bratsche | jcastro: For now I just copied what he gave me to look at when I can. I'm a little more worried about some utouch stuff firs.t | 16:54 |
| * jcastro nods | 16:54 | |
| kenvandine | tedg, libappindicator is linked against libdbusmenu-gtk3 and all the others against libdbusmenu-gtk2 | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | which is to be expected, since they weren't rebuilt | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | same for -glib | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | libapplication is linked with libdbusmenu-glib3 and all the others libdbusmenu-glib2 | 16:57 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Try deleting it and see if the unity panel loads. | 16:57 |
| tedg | (or moving it or whatever) | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | what do you mean? | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | libdbusmenu-glib2 or libdbusmenu-glib3? | 16:57 |
| tedg | kenvandine, rm /usr/lib/indicators/5/libappindicator.so | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | oh | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | it is in 4 | 16:58 |
| tedg | Could we build indicator-application first (new PPA) so then it'd build against the old dbusmenu, and then build all the others? | 16:58 |
| bratsche | ircbog: How do I build this swt example you gave me? | 17:05 |
| bratsche | Hey ronoc, the sound indicator in Natty is looking nice! | 17:05 |
| ircbog | bratsche: hey! I was going to ping you this afternoon to see if you needed any help! :) OK, do you have and Eclipse lying around? Did you get the SWT code base from CVS? (probably easiest thing) | 17:06 |
| ronoc | bratsche, thx getting there now, Cimi has been helping with the UI work | 17:06 |
| ronoc | bratsche, playlists land today | 17:06 |
| bratsche | ircbog: I found SWT in the Ubuntu repository, so I just did an apt-get install of it from there. And also I installed eclipse from Ubuntu. | 17:06 |
| bratsche | ronoc: Nice! | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | tedg, that doesn't seem like a fix though | 17:07 |
| bratsche | ronoc: When do you arrive in Dallas? | 17:08 |
| ronoc | bratsche, I'm in Saturday evening | 17:08 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Why not? It would mean that the panel service would be entirely on libdbusmenu-g*2 | 17:08 |
| tedg | kenvandine, It's a hack, but I think that it does fix it :) | 17:08 |
| nperry | Any chance we are seeing an unity update today? (Just wondering) | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | tedg, removing libappindicator doesn't make it load | 17:10 |
| tedg | kenvandine, :-/ | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | however... removing all of them does make the panel load | 17:11 |
| * kenvandine tries with just libapplication.so | 17:12 | |
| ircbog | bratsche: OK, first step start up eclipse. I think we should get SWT from HEAD as you can hack on the SWT code (http://www.eclipse.org/swt/cvs.php). After getting SWT, you should create a Java project, and add the SWT project to the classpath (right click->Properties->Java Build Path->select org.eclipse.swt). Next create a Java class, and paste that code snippet in from yesterday. | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | ok, with just libapplication.so, the output is much cleaner... but it doesn't render any indicators | 17:13 |
| tedg | kenvandine, I need to run to meet someone for lunch. But what really confuses me is why the other indicators don't run when libapplication.so is removed. | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | they all seem to work in the indicator-loader | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | so rebuilding them shouldn't be needed | 17:20 |
| bratsche | Wow, Eclipse really makes Visual Studio look *incredibly* usable. | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | haha | 17:22 |
| dbarth_ | bratsche: hey, swt? is there someone doing a patch for that? | 17:23 |
| bratsche | dbarth_: Hmm? | 17:23 |
| MacSlow | sladen, the only real solution would be to make all the measurements there EM-based... but that was never spec'ed out so it's kind of only half-the-way atm | 17:23 |
| bratsche | ircbog: Do you know where the swt stuff would be installed on the system? | 17:24 |
| bratsche | Oh wait, I think I see it. | 17:25 |
| ircbog | bratsche: it gets installed in the eclipse/plugins folder | 17:25 |
| bratsche | ircbog: I found /usr/lib/java/swt-gtk-3.5.1.jar | 17:25 |
| bratsche | Can I just "Add External JAR" with that? | 17:26 |
| ircbog | sure | 17:26 |
| bratsche | dbarth_: Did you mean app menus or something else? | 17:27 |
| sladen | MacSlow: no, it's not that. Applying a 1 pixel downshift to both of those screenshots I've taken will drag the text /visibly/ below centre, and it'll look like it is slipping down | 17:28 |
| MacSlow | sladen, it looks clean on my system now. What app-font (and size) have you set on your system? | 17:30 |
| MacSlow | sladen, which DPI and sub-pixel-setting? | 17:31 |
| dbarth_ | bratsche: appmenu yes | 17:31 |
| MacSlow | sladen, have you tried unity trunk yet? Or did you just mock it up in gimp? | 17:31 |
| bratsche | ircbog: Okay, the test program is running now for me. I get a window with no menus or anything. It's just an empty window. | 17:32 |
| ircbog | yup | 17:32 |
| sladen | MacSlow: neither of those are mock-ups, they are the present situation | 17:32 |
| ircbog | do you get a close menu at the top? | 17:32 |
| ircbog | in the appmenu? | 17:33 |
| bratsche | ircbog: In the titlebar, yes. | 17:33 |
| sladen | MacSlow: eg. I'm not sure there is a problem /in Unity/ to be fixed. My huch is that it's liable to create an off-by-one error where none existed | 17:34 |
| bratsche | dbarth_: Yeah.. ircbog gave me a sample program for swt that I'm trying to get working right now. Then I can use it to debug the issues and hopefully get Eclipse working. | 17:34 |
| dbarth_ | eclipse would be cool | 17:35 |
| dbarth_ | we still have the fallback window menus, but this is the kind of app that runs maximized so +1 | 17:35 |
| bratsche | dbarth_: Yeah, definitely. monodevelop is another that would be nice to fix, but there's not really time for it. | 17:36 |
| conscioususer | bratsche: the idea is prioritizing Eclipse from the Natty repositories or it will theoretically work with a vanilla Eclipse from eclipse.org? | 17:36 |
| bratsche | conscioususer: I'm not talking about modifying eclipse at all. It's hopefully just something that can be fixed on my end and will fix Eclipse from upstream. | 17:37 |
| conscioususer | bratsche: very nice to know that, thanks | 17:38 |
| ircbog | bratsche: OK, we should be seeing a Menu called "MenuTest" with one item in it. There is code in our Shell class (in createHandle) that calls gtk_widget_realize(). So when we create a shell, I'm guessing the appmenu code goes to look for a menu bar but its not there at that point. Later when we add the menu, I guess the code doesn't get notified again? | 17:38 |
| MacSlow | sladen, btw... I wish I knew how to make screenshots of tooltips/quicklists where the transparency shows... because all my screenshots show transparent areas being fully opaque. | 17:40 |
| bratsche | ircbog: Let me try something here.. hang on. | 17:40 |
| bratsche | ircbog: Is there an easy way to set an environment variable in Eclipse so that it will affect this program? | 17:42 |
| sladen | MacSlow: gimp->File->Create->Screenshot | 17:43 |
| ircbog | bratsche: If you go to Run Configurations in the toolbar (the play icon)->Run Configurations...->select the configuration you used to run the snippet->Environment tab->New.... | 17:43 |
| bratsche | ircbog: Anyway, I'll play around with this and see if I can make some progress. | 17:47 |
| bratsche | But I'm going to go get some lunch in a few minutes. | 17:47 |
| ircbog | bratsche: cool. I'll be on IRC if you have questions, need help etc | 17:47 |
| bratsche | Thanks | 17:48 |
| MacSlow | sladen, interesting that gimp works there and gnome-screenshot does not... reload https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/697791 | 17:50 |
| lamalex_ | hm, after update I've got a gnome panel | 17:52 |
| lamalex_ | what's up with that | 17:52 |
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| MacSlow | this mouse-event lag in unity is driving me nuts!!! | 17:53 |
| MacSlow | sladen, so you think it's a general problem with the font itself? | 18:00 |
| sladen | MacSlow: is that latest screenshot you've uploaded with your 1-pixel left and down ? | 18:01 |
| MacSlow | sladen, the last two I uploaded are with a correction vector of -1/1 | 18:02 |
| sladen | MacSlow: left and down (or left and up) | 18:02 |
| MacSlow | sladen, left and down it is | 18:03 |
| sladen | MacSlow: can you try also with "Tomboy' (something that shows baseline, cap-height, ascender tip and descender tail) | 18:03 |
| MacSlow | sladen, the second screenshot does show "Tomboy...". Or do you want me to crank up my app-font-size and do a screenshot? | 18:04 |
| * MacSlow wonders what evo is doing with 100% of the two cpu-cores | 18:07 | |
| didrocks | jcastro: btw, just a quick ping, there will be no unity release this week as Neil is still ill | 18:07 |
| sladen | MacSlow: mmmhmmm. I guess the only thing is to try it. And then keep an eye-out for how to looks with other scripts/fonts (Cyrillic, Greek, CJK, ...) | 18:10 |
| MacSlow | sladen, it's a very small patch, that's easily revertable should we see the need undoing this. | 18:12 |
| sladen | MacSlow: yup | 18:12 |
| jcastro | didrocks: yeah I figured as much | 18:17 |
| jcastro | didrocks: I suspect next week you'll be uploading plenty of things anyway, heh | 18:18 |
| didrocks | jcastro: yeah, there are a lot of goodness in trunk :) | 18:22 |
| jcastro | didrocks: and you got banshee in. Let me give you a hug. | 18:23 |
| * didrocks hugs jcastro | 18:23 | |
| didrocks | jcastro: all kudos to the debian mono team and upstream | 18:23 |
| jcastro | I know right! | 18:24 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Can you try to downgrade to the distro indicator-application? | 18:39 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Oh, wait. That'll get libappindicator won't it :( | 18:39 |
| dbarth_ | jcastro: right, no release; we're just landings things in and checking everything works in trunk, but no uploads | 18:39 |
| dbarth_ | i hope to get the dailies working again though | 18:40 |
| dbarth_ | slowly getting all of the small build issues fixed | 18:40 |
| dbarth_ | jcastro: was just saying no release and upload into natty but re-stabilizing trunk and getting the dailies to work again | 18:42 |
| dbarth_ | close to it now, i just need didrocks to push a new nux packaging branch | 18:42 |
| jcastro | rock | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | tedg, yeah... that's no good | 19:02 |
| tedg | kenvandine, So let me recap. By default, you don't have any indicators. | 19:04 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Removing indicator-application doesn't seem to help. | 19:04 |
| kenvandine | well, i didn't remove that | 19:04 |
| kenvandine | i moved the .so | 19:04 |
| tedg | kenvandine, But all the indicators load individually. | 19:04 |
| tedg | That should be the same. | 19:04 |
| kenvandine | i removed all the indicators and it looked like the panel worked | 19:05 |
| tedg | kenvandine, And libapplication.so was the only one using a different version of dbusmenu-g* | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | but of course is useless | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | yes | 19:05 |
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| tedg | kenvandine, And it doesn't really work with any of the indicators? | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | right | 19:08 |
| tedg | kenvandine, (not that you'd try all, but just to be curious) | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | i tried adding just one, appmenu and messaging | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | separately | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | and they never show up in the panel | 19:08 |
| tedg | And you restarted the panel service thingy. | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | yup | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | weird thing though | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | it doesn't say it fails to load libmessaging.so | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | it just times out | 19:10 |
| tedg | kenvandine, What's the address of your PPA? | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | i see a few "loading libblah.so" messages | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | and then nothing.... until a timeout error from unity | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | https://edge.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/+archive/gdbus-migration | 19:12 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ok.. now i am getting somewhere | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | tedg, in the gnome panel, indicator-applet is failing | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, sorry... i should have done indicator-sound before messing with ted's code :) | 19:43 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, no worries, I'm around so let me know how you get on if you get a chance | 19:48 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Okay, I'm all up with clearing the MENUPROXY variable from the panel service, distro indicator-application and the GDBus PPA. | 19:54 |
| tedg | Woot! | 19:54 |
| lamalex | anyone know if unity --advanced-debug implies --replace? | 19:54 |
| cyphermox | lamalex, I do think so, like just 'unity' | 19:56 |
| lamalex | i didn't realize running unity would replace cool | 19:59 |
| lamalex | does anyone else get segfaulting when running with --advanced-debug? | 19:59 |
| cyphermox | lamalex, I didn't use advanced-debug directly but it wasn't segfaulting in gdb | 20:00 |
| cyphermox | lamalex, what's bt full say? | 20:01 |
| lamalex | cyphermox, yeah advanced-debug just runs in gdb, so same thing | 20:02 |
| cyphermox | yes | 20:02 |
| lamalex | segfault in libdconfsettings.so | 20:03 |
| lamalex | one second | 20:04 |
| tedg | kenvandine, lp:~ted/unity/unset-menuproxy-panel-service | 20:05 |
| tedg | kenvandine, I'm building a package now, but that should do the trick. | 20:05 |
| lamalex | cyphermox, same crash you were getting? | 20:06 |
| lamalex | it runs fine outside of gdb | 20:06 |
| cyphermox | lamalex, nah, I never got that... the only crashes I got I caused with crappy code ;) | 20:07 |
| lamalex | yeah, this is stock unity | 20:07 |
| cyphermox | I can try here, hold on | 20:07 |
| lamalex | something fishy is going on | 20:07 |
| tedg | Why does unity depend on dbusmenu-glib? | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ok... how about appindicator not working in indicator-applet? | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | oh, to build it you need to change it to dbusmenu-glib-0.4 | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | but yeah, no idea why it depends on it | 20:14 |
| tedg | Oh, quicklists. | 20:14 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, it'll need to be built with the same dbusmenu as the other indicators. | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 20:14 |
| tedg | kenvandine, So to put in the PPA you need to upload in this order: indicator-application, unity, dbusmenu, libappindicator, libindicate, appmenu-gtk | 20:15 |
| cyphermox | lamalex, do you get that crash immediately or after doing some kind of action? | 20:16 |
| lamalex | cyphermox, immediately | 20:17 |
| cyphermox | heh, nothing special here | 20:18 |
| lamalex | http://paste2.org/p/1180247 | 20:19 |
| cyphermox | no idea | 20:19 |
| lamalex | heh, guess I should install some glib/dconf debug symbols | 20:19 |
| lamalex | yeah, it's my job to figure this kind of stuff out anyway :P | 20:19 |
| lamalex_ | Is it possible to set gedit to open in a specific dir all of the time? Why the hell does it always open in / | 20:35 |
| lamalex_ | my terminal is doing it too | 20:35 |
| lamalex_ | I feel like this is a conspiracy | 20:36 |
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| kenvandine | tedg, problem with your plan of uploading indicator-application first... i requires libappindicator which has only been built with the gdbus build of dbusmenu | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | tedg, how do you like them apples :) | 20:54 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Well, you shouldn't need to upload indicator-application at all, no? | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | huh? | 20:54 |
| tedg | kenvandine, As long as the libappindicator bins are a newer version apt shouldn't care. | 20:55 |
| tedg | We don't need a new indicator-application, just a new libappindicator. | 20:55 |
| kenvandine | so we never rebuild indicator-application? | 20:55 |
| tedg | Well, we'll need to rebuild all the indicators but, they'll all be FTBFS with the new dbusmenu until they get ported. | 20:55 |
| * kenvandine cries... you know what is gonna happen when we do that? | 20:56 | |
| * tedg can't hear over the sobbing | 20:56 | |
| kenvandine | someone will make a change that makes us need to rebuild something... and we block them | 20:56 |
| kenvandine | like the python transition | 20:56 |
| tedg | No one would transition python, that's crazy! | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | ha! | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | december was no fun! | 20:57 |
| tedg | Oh, December was kinda a blur for me ;) | 20:57 |
| lamalex | ted and the kids, partying all December long | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | yeah... i had half your packages that wouldn't build and blocked python | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | while you were sunning on the beach :) | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | i guess that was the week before you left | 20:58 |
| tedg | Yup, managed to avoid the whalers this time too! | 20:58 |
| tedg | ;) | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | anyway... i don't really want to get into a "on fire" situation | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | haha | 20:58 |
| kenvandine | so appmenu-gtk was easy to port... | 20:59 |
| tedg | I'll start the indicators... | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | just port the rest of them tomorrow :) | 20:59 |
| tedg | Now that I have my system over, it'll be easier. | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | btw | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | unity won't build for me | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | with your branch | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | unity package that is | 20:59 |
| tedg | kenvandine, err, probably needs a header? | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | no | 21:00 |
| * tedg can't get anything cmake to build | 21:00 | |
| kenvandine | fails in tests | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | finding vapi files | 21:00 |
| tedg | Err, that's not me. | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:00 |
| * kenvandine considers patching | 21:00 | |
| tedg | kenvandine, remember unity if FTBFS with dbusmenu 0.3.91 :) | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | i know! | 21:01 |
| tedg | DBO, Do you have plans to port to dbusmenu-0.4 at some point? | 21:03 |
| tedg | (or who is doing quicklists now) ? | 21:03 |
| kenvandine | hopefully soon... | 21:04 |
| * tedg thinks that kenvandine doesn't want DBO to say "beta 2" ;) | 21:04 | |
| kenvandine | nope :) | 21:06 |
| DBO | tedg, I was thinking maybe for RC2 | 21:11 |
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| * kenvandine smacks DBO | 21:19 | |
| DBO | kenvandine, 0.3.92 vs 0.4.0, its only 0.0.08 different... I mean what's the big deal? | 21:20 |
| ronoc | later guys | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ok... unity works again with your patch and with indicator-application from natty | 21:42 |
| kenvandine | so i am just going to remove indicator-application from the ppa | 21:43 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Makes sense. | 21:51 |
| Amaranth | hmm, fun bug | 22:15 |
| Amaranth | unity seems to be merging the titlebar and panel when something is maximized vertically rather than when it is maximized vertically and horizontally | 22:16 |
| Amaranth | I wonder if it does the same thing when maximized horizontally only | 22:16 |
| Amaranth | yep | 22:17 |
| Amaranth | hmm, fix is not as trivial as I thought | 22:34 |
| Amaranth | arg, forget fixing it, I'll just file a bug :) | 22:42 |
| jcastro | DBO: fear: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2628441518/integrating-with-web-apps | 23:27 |
| jcastro | DBO: Now do you understand? :) | 23:27 |
| DBO | jcastro, well enough | 23:34 |
| DBO | I'll tool things around what you have said | 23:34 |
| cando | jcastro, that's awesome...:) | 23:36 |
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