[00:11] <harleen> hello i have ubuntu and it cannot recognize my iphone 4 after i updated the software from 4.0 to 4.2
[00:11] <harleen> can someone tell me what to do?
[00:38] <good_intentions> DOes anyone know how to stream dvb from kaffeine over a network
[00:58] <Scunizi> wow.. I just did a update/upgrade/dist-upgrade on my 10.04 system and there's 120 packages to upgrade and 1 held back.. almost the entire kde system and k"apps"
[01:00] <Scunizi> and I just did that a week ago with almost no updates.. looks like kde version 4.4.5 is what's coming in.. was that the original with the install or was it 4.3 or 4.4?
[01:11] <reya276> Does anyone know if there is a Plasma Widget for LastFm or Pandora>
[01:11] <reya276> ?
[01:16] <reya276> Does anyone know if there is a Plasma Widget for LastFm or Pandora?
[01:27] <pulaski> Hello. I used "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in an attempt to upgrade from kubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx to kubuntu 10.10. maverick meekrat. It all seemed to end to quickly. Is there a cli command do indicate my whether my current distro is kubunt 10.04 or 10.10?
[01:29] <claydoh> pulaski: dist-upgrade does not upgrade you to the next version
[01:29] <claydoh> !upgrade
[01:29] <claydoh> err not the best link lemme grab a better one
[01:31] <claydoh> pulaski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[01:31] <pulaski> claydoh: Thanks for responding. Thats just what I need.
[01:37] <claydoh> reya276: nope , not as far as I can see Pandora is closed, there is one or 2 for lastfm iirc you should be able to search and install one in the Get Widgets applet
[01:37] <nyl> how can i bypass login
[01:37] <nyl> if on my device i don't have any keyboard
[01:37] <nyl> o_O
[01:39] <claydoh> nyl:  you can't iirc tho it can be disabled (autologin) not that it helps not having a kb :(
[01:40] <reya276> claydoh, Get Widgets Applet? Ah sorry I just start using KDE today first time
[01:40] <nyl> it's 1st boot
[01:40] <nyl> just made the image
[01:40] <reya276> well Kubuntu
[01:40] <claydoh> reya276: what version?
[01:40] <nyl> i'm stuck at the "sycamore login: "
[01:41] <reya276> claydoh, I think Kubuntu 10.10
[01:41] <reya276> yes 10.10
[01:42] <reya276> Krita 2.3 got me Sold!
[01:42] <claydoh> reya276: ok, simply right-click in  your desktop and select Add Widgets
[01:42] <reya276> closest thing to Photoshop that has CMYK 16bit
[01:42] <reya276> which means it can be used professionally
[01:42] <claydoh> then press the Get Widgets button
[01:42] <reya276> where is it?
[01:44] <claydoh> reya276: hold on It may  be slightly different in the KDE version I am using compared to yours
[01:45] <reya276> which one do you have?
[01:45] <nyl> is there any way to manualy add user
[01:46] <claydoh> no its the same
[01:46] <nyl> or to copy a already made userbase
[01:46] <nyl> :(
[01:46] <claydoh> reya276: another way to get there http://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/8/83/Plasma_howto-widget-desktop-add-45.gif
[01:47] <claydoh> right-clicking on your desktop somewhere gets similar menu
[01:47] <reya276> wow this is cool, how did you do that
[01:47] <reya276> this thing is showing me some step by step animation, very nice
[01:47] <claydoh> as well as right-clicking on your panel, selecting Panel Options
[01:47] <nyl> ubuntu transfer users
[01:48] <claydoh> reya276: I can't take credit someone else did those http://userbase.kde.org has lots of kde help bits
[01:48] <reya276> cool I got it, thanks
[01:49] <ner0x> Is it possible to link laptop to desktop from eth0 <=> eth0?
[01:49] <ner0x> Share internet connection, I mean.
[01:49] <reya276> so Tell me again why are people still using Windows?
[01:49] <ner0x> Sort of like a proxy.
[01:49] <claydoh> reya276: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/HowTo/4.5 is more specific for the KDE in 10.10
[01:50] <reya276> wow I bet MS ripped off most of this stuff for Windows 7
[01:50] <claydoh> reya276:  I think there was some cross-pollination, it mayu have been going both ways idea wise :)
[01:59] <rjwiii> so, KDE 4.5 doesn't have transpararancy?
[02:21] <Feared> Syrup.
[02:21] <israfil> what?
[02:22] <israfil> hello, i use Kubuntu Hardy Heron and my Laptop display on which i installed the nvidia driver stays dark. Can you help me?
[02:22] <israfil> cat /proc/acpi/video/NVID/LCD/brightness says: "levels:  80 13 7 13 20 30 45 60 80 100"  and  "current: 0"
[02:45] <moteyibex> Need to transfer a Launchpad bug from application Zim specific to Xorg - it is a potential security issue
[03:29] <rtdos> how do i take a screenshot and can i paste it into dolphin?
[03:35] <Scunizi> rtdos: dolphin is a file manager.. take a screenshot by pushing the PrtScn/SysRq button
[03:35] <rtdos> but can i paste the image as a file into dolphin, scunizi ?
[03:36] <Scunizi> rtdos: you can use dolphin to open a file or move a file... but pasting it into dolphin? that's not what it does.
[03:38] <Scunizi> rtdos: what are you ultimately trying to do? open an image? paste the image to a pastebin service?
[03:55] <rtdos> yes.
[03:55] <rtdos> actually i need to upload a screen shot to a private server.
[05:30] <hummushead> i have a linux driver but don't know how to install it
[05:36] <Feared> What do you mean hummushead?
[05:36] <Feared> A driver for what
[05:36] <hummushead> for a wireless card
[05:37] <hummushead> the cd came with a driver, i just don't know how to install it
[05:37] <hummushead> on kubuntu
[05:38] <Feared> Is the driver in a folder, zip, etc?
[05:38] <hummushead> yeah
[05:38] <hummushead> i can find it, just dont know the commands to install it
[05:38] <Feared> Yeah what? Which?
[05:38] <hummushead> oh, zip
[05:39] <Feared> You've extracted it? Correct?
[05:39] <hummushead> not yet
[05:39] <hummushead> will do
[05:39] <Feared> Once it's extracted, do you see any sh or executable files?
[05:40] <hummushead> just a sec
[05:40] <hummushead> restarting it (different machine that i'm on now)
[05:41] <hummushead> where should i extract it to?
[05:41] <Feared> Wherever you please. You're sure you can't find these same drivers in a package manager, right?
[05:42] <hummushead> no clue
[05:42] <hummushead> i dont know what that is
[05:43] <Feared> KPackageKit, Synaptic?
[05:43] <hummushead> just installed kubuntu tonight
[05:43] <Feared> Hmmm.
[05:44] <hummushead> and i dont have it online so was trying to install them from the disk i have
[05:44] <hummushead> it being the comp i'm trying to install the wireless card on
[05:44] <Feared> What wireless card are you using?
[05:44] <hummushead> a winstar pci n one
[05:44] <hummushead> cheap
[05:46] <Feared> What do you see in the extracted folder?
[05:49] <hummushead> a couple .dat files
[05:49] <Feared> No executable or package?
[05:50] <hummushead> one called 'makefile
[05:50] <hummushead> '
[05:51] <Feared> Press Shift + F4 in the folder with the makefile.
[05:52] <hummushead> nothing happened
[05:52] <Feared> No terminal opened?
[05:52] <hummushead> nah
[05:52] <Feared> Heh. Just open a terminal and navigate yourself to that directory.
[05:52] <hummushead> ok
[05:52] <Feared> This is Kubuntu, right?
[05:53] <hummushead> yep
[05:53] <hummushead> ok cool
[05:53] <hummushead> opened
[05:53] <Feared> Type in ./configure
[05:54] <Feared> Tell me if you get anything or if it's unrecongnized.
[05:54] <hummushead> no surch file
[05:54] <Feared> Alright, try make.
[05:54] <hummushead> what's the whole command?
[05:54] <hummushead> i don't know these
[05:54] <Feared> # make
[05:54] <Feared> Without the pound sign.
[05:55] <hummushead> says command not found
[05:55] <Feared> # sudo apt-get install make
[05:56] <Feared> Then try the previous command again.
[05:56] <hummushead> still says command not found
[05:57] <Feared> You're positive the machine has an updated Kubuntu on it?
[05:57] <hummushead> yeah, downloaded it through wubi
[05:57] <hummushead> or wumi, whatever the windows installer is
[05:57] <hummushead> i haven't set up the repositories yet tho
[05:57] <Feared> Hmmm.
[05:59] <Feared> Not sure if I can help you my friend. I'm an amatuer with Kubuntu myself. Although these commands should exist anyways.
[06:00] <hummushead> No worries
[06:00] <Feared> Good luck, though.
[06:00] <hummushead> Thanks for trying
[06:04] <KimLaroux> I remember when the Folder View on the desktop opened sub-directories when the pointer was over them. It doesn't seem to be doing this anymore and I can't find any settings for this feature. Anyone knows what's going on?
[06:15] <david_> hey
[06:45] <israfil> hello, i use kubuntu hardy heron and have installed the proprietary nvidia driver. After it everything was good but after i rebooted the system the display remains dark. What can i do?
[07:03] <wsr3193> What do you mean dark?
[07:05] <israfil> i mean that the display is visible but darker than normal
[07:05] <israfil> should i try the laptop-mode-tools?
[07:12] <jhohn> israfil: my laptop has hardware buttons to in- and decrease brightness, yours maybe also
[07:19] <israfil> jhohn: mine don't work on linux
[07:34] <ox3a> hello?
[07:34] <JackOfHearts> hi
[07:34] <JackOfHearts> wassup?
[07:35] <ox3a> I want install kde in Ubuntu for customizing the iso
[07:36] <JackOfHearts> ox3a:  type in console sudo su
[07:36] <JackOfHearts> so u got root acces
[07:36] <ox3a> and installing kubuntu-desktop?
[07:37] <JackOfHearts>  than type apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <gr8m8> you don't need sudo su just use sudo...
[07:37] <JackOfHearts> or try frist apt-get update & rm-rF /   first to make update
[07:38] <ox3a> But i do not need other application like koffice,kmail etc
[07:38] <gr8m8> don't use that silly command
[07:38] <gr8m8> !danger
[07:38] <gr8m8> JackOfHearts: give it up dude
[07:38] <JackOfHearts> :P
[07:38] <JackOfHearts>  but hes askign stupid question
[07:38] <gr8m8> fool
[07:38] <JackOfHearts> s
[07:39] <JackOfHearts>  freekign google it dont ask of basics
[07:39] <gr8m8> the channel is here for any kubuntu question
[07:39] <JackOfHearts> he asked same sutpid quesitons on #ubuntu
[07:39] <JackOfHearts> :P
[07:39] <gr8m8> JackOfHearts: take your bitterness elsewhere pls
[07:40] <ox3a> JackOfHearts, Hey you should not do this
[07:40] <JackOfHearts> yes i should not
[07:40] <JackOfHearts>  anyway just install kubuntu-deskto]
[07:40] <ox3a> Because you did not hear me all thing yet
[07:40] <JackOfHearts>  than u remove what u dont need
[07:41] <JackOfHearts> if u dotn want whole kubuuntu isntall kde-basic
[07:41] <JackOfHearts>  or gimem second need remmebr name
[07:44] <JackOfHearts> hmm
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  cannot fidn name of this package
[07:44] <ox3a> ?
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  its meta for basic kde
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  but U WILL GOT HAN UBUNTU with kde
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  not kubuntu
[07:44] <ox3a> kdebase?
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu than remove what u dont need from kde
[07:44] <JackOfHearts>  no
[07:45] <JackOfHearts>  its ssomethig  like kde-basic
[07:45] <JackOfHearts>  or similar
[07:46] <JackOfHearts> kde-workspace
[07:47] <JackOfHearts> kdebase-workspace
[07:47] <JackOfHearts>  srry
[07:47] <JackOfHearts> This package provides a basic KDE 4 desktop installation.
[07:47] <JackOfHearts> is what desc says
[07:47] <gr8m8> !info kdebase-workspace
[07:49] <Tm_T> JackOfHearts: it says it provides basic workspace components, no apps, no runtime
[07:50] <JackOfHearts> than u install kdebase-apps
[07:50] <JackOfHearts>  core apps
[07:50] <JackOfHearts>  no nothing he dont want and vuala
[07:50] <JackOfHearts>  u got ubuntu with kde
[07:52] <JackOfHearts> btw stupid quesitoin how to remove whole gnome  an everything on gtk without doing this one by one?
[07:53] <ox3a> It will not install conquer?
[07:53] <JackOfHearts> have no clue is konq core app?
[07:54] <JackOfHearts>  or now dolphin is?
[07:54] <ox3a> konq
[07:54] <JackOfHearts> anyway just remove konq if u doint like it jesus
[07:54] <ox3a> Oh no
[07:54] <ox3a> I need such a basic browser
[07:54] <JackOfHearts> best way to get full kubuntu is just install kubu desktop than remove what u dont want
[07:55] <JackOfHearts> use chrome
[07:55] <JackOfHearts>  way better
[07:55] <JackOfHearts> or lynx
[07:55] <ox3a> file browser
[07:55] <JackOfHearts> file broser dolphin is now main
[07:55] <JackOfHearts>  kde filebrowser
[07:56] <ox3a> i see
[07:56] <JackOfHearts> is lighter
[07:56] <JackOfHearts> preety much i installed kubuntu dekstop aswell
[07:57] <JackOfHearts>  and im preetyhappy
[07:57] <phoenix_firebrd> !gimp
[07:57] <JackOfHearts>  kde is no longer such freeking hog like it was on older versions
[07:57] <JackOfHearts> !burg
[07:57] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: pffffffffffffff lolol
[07:57] <JackOfHearts> what ?
[07:57] <JackOfHearts>  burg is leet
[07:58] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: you alomst made me poo-- it is mor intense
[07:58] <JackOfHearts> Guest58991:  at last i dont go on irc on root acount like u did
[08:00] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: not idiot
[08:01] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: and what is at last
[08:02] <JackOfHearts> Guest58991: figure of speach
[08:02] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: only if you know what it means
[08:03] <JackOfHearts> if u dont know what i mean is your pro
[08:04] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: ok phil
[08:05] <JackOfHearts> ok go and f yourself mate ... gently
[08:05] <Guest58991> JackOfHearts: thanks mr mccrackin
[08:11] <Guest58991> can anyon STOP JackOfHearts from sending me PICTURES of naked underage boys PERV! -- leave me alone
[08:43] <owner> can someone help me im trying to uodate to 10.10 from 8.04 n im using a netbook n i dont have a cd or a dvd burner so how can i do it
[08:47] <gr8m8> !upgrade
[08:48] <quiescent> is there a skype for kubuntu with audio and video conversations
[08:55] <quiescent> owner.....   you need to have the dvd put on a stick (memory stick) and use that to boot if the system allows booting from a usb device
[08:55] <gr8m8> the channel is quiet enough to make a pm reduntant...
[08:56] <magic> i put is on a usb 8gb but how do i instaqll it?
[08:56] <magic> k
[08:56] <chris7879> !welcome
[08:58] <gr8m8> magic: the upgrade wiki should have a link about that - you don't just copy the iso over
[08:58] <quiescent> agic....  power on and see if the bios allows the boot from usb. it has to be a bootable usb stick not a copy of the software
[08:58] <marcusdavidus> #ubuntu-dev
[08:59] <magic> k thanks quiescent
[09:00] <marcusdavidus> magic what hapend?
[09:02] <chris7879> !welcome
[09:04] <magic> im having trouble updating from 8.04 to 10.10 on a netbook marcus
[09:43] <chris7879> !welcome
[09:52] <chris7879> !welcome
[09:53] <gr8m8> !msgthebot
[09:56] <skfin> o/w 48
[09:56] <skfin> -.-
[10:09] <harrison> hello
[10:10] <harrison> anyone
[10:10] <harrison> just thinking of moving to 4.6 rc2
[10:13] <rork> hi harrison
[10:13] <harrison> hey
[10:14] <harrison> has anyone moved to 4.6?
[10:14] <harrison> is it stable-ish?
[10:16] <harrison> no-one??
[10:16] <OchoZero9> how do i install KDE on ubuntu?
[10:16] <rork> OchoZero9: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <harrison> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <harrison> missed sudo
[10:17] <harrison> no one has tried 4.6
[10:17] <OchoZero9> thank you
[10:17] <rork> harrison: I don't know if anyone tried it, not everybody is watching irc every 5 minutes
[10:18] <harrison> diiferent story over at #linuxmint-help
[10:18] <OchoZero9> what's the difference from 4.5?
[10:19] <harrison> loads
[10:19] <harrison> but isnt out yet
[10:19] <OchoZero9> i've been looking on how to install for a while
[10:19] <OchoZero9> so i knwo is in RC 2
[10:19] <OchoZero9> and comes out in 3 weeks
[10:20] <OchoZero9> i really never seen a difference in RC2s and finals
[10:20] <harrison> have you tried it
[10:20] <OchoZero9> in fact patches on finals
[10:20] <OchoZero9> are what final is to an RC2
[10:20] <OchoZero9> no
[10:20] <OchoZero9> you just taught me how to install whatever version is it that I'm  installnig
[10:21] <OchoZero9> that's why im asking what's the difference to see if i should upgrade it
[10:21] <OchoZero9> i was refereing to other software in general on release candidates vs final vs oops we didnt' see that bug
[10:23] <harrison> just before i go no one can help
[10:24] <OchoZero9> i have kubuntu installed in a vbox
[10:24] <harrison> 4.6
[10:24] <OchoZero9> and one thing that bugs me it is its search
[10:24] <harrison> in dolphin
[10:24] <OchoZero9> no
[10:25] <OchoZero9> in the start button thingie
[10:25] <harrison> kickoff
[10:25] <OchoZero9> windows 7 is awesome there
[10:25] <OchoZero9> and windows suppsoedly copied from mac
[10:25] <harrison> kde isnt windows
[10:25] <OchoZero9> i know
[10:26] <OchoZero9> but that search there can ave some work done
[10:26] <OchoZero9> maybe so many people live of command line to even care
[10:26] <harrison> im scared of adding 4.6
[10:26] <OchoZero9> why?
[10:27] <OchoZero9> maybe use a virtual box
[10:27] <OchoZero9> or another computer
[10:27] <harrison> incase of not been stable or no sound
[10:27] <OchoZero9> the version that you told me to get is still unpacking
[10:28] <OchoZero9> it just stopped
[10:28] <harrison> huh
[10:28] <OchoZero9> Errors were encountered while rpcessing : /var/cache/apt/archives/kubuntu-firefox-installer_10.10ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[10:28] <OchoZero9> E: sub-process /user/bindpkg retruend an eror cod (1)
[10:29] <harrison> no idea
[10:29] <OchoZero9> maybe it's nothing
[10:29] <OchoZero9> im going to restart it
[10:29] <harrison> k
[10:30] <OchoZero9> the genius has left the building
[10:31] <OchoZero9> all i see is a purple background with the mouse cursor
[10:32] <OchoZero9> and touch screen works
[10:32] <OchoZero9> ctrl-alt-del?
[10:35] <OchoZero9> oooh nice bg
[10:35] <agu10^> hello
[10:35] <agu10^> how do I disable compiz temporarily?
[10:36] <agu10^> (using the GUI)
[10:36] <harrison> compiz switch -google
[10:36] <agu10^> (using a GUI)
[10:37] <OchoZero9> I'm up and running on KDE
[10:37] <agu10^> oh, there's no built-in way to turn compiz on and off???
[10:37] <harrison> nope
[10:38] <agu10^> compiz switch works for KDE too?
[10:38] <harrison> yep
[10:38] <OchoZero9> how do i install apps? ubuntu, synaptic or Kpackagekit
[10:38] <harrison> i have it
[10:38] <harrison> many ways
[10:38] <OchoZero9> i mean, how should I
[10:38] <agu10^> I can't find the compiz switch in the repositories...
[10:38] <OchoZero9> most reliable and upt to date
[10:38] <harrison> google it is deb file
[10:39] <harrison> sudo apt-get install -is best but all the same doesnt matter
[10:39] <harrison> whatever suits you
[10:39] <OchoZero9> okay ty
[10:39] <agu10^> ok
[10:40] <agu10^> so where should the compiz switch be located?
[10:40] <agu10^> I already installed, but how do I use it?
[10:46] <OchoZero9> kpackage doesnt work for me
[10:46] <OchoZero9> it crashes before it starts
[10:49] <OchoZero9> how do i get 4.6?
[10:49] <OchoZero9> all i see is abunch of things under src folddr
[10:50] <OchoZero9> is there a binary for rc2 or an easier way?
[10:53] <jhohn> add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta and for PIM ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[10:55] <OchoZero9> i disconnected the lan cable cuz im tired
[10:55] <OchoZero9> hwo do I put wirelesss?
[11:32] <agu10^> hey
[11:32] <agu10^> how do I kill a process?
[11:32] <agu10^> actually, how do I see running processes
[11:32] <agu10^> like I would in windows with ctrl+alt+supr
[11:32] <agu10^> err, ctrl+alt+del
[11:33] <jhohn> ps aux
[11:34] <jhohn> and to kill: kill <processID>
[11:34] <jhohn> or killall <name> (but never do that on Solaris
[11:34] <agu10^> ?
[11:34] <jhohn> )
[11:34] <agu10^> what does ps aux mean?
[11:34] <jhohn> oh, open a terminal and type "ps aux"
[11:34] <agu10^> uh, mind that I don't want shell commands
[11:35] <agu10^> I want the GUI program to do that
[11:35] <jhohn> I do not have a GUI
[11:35] <agu10^> ok
[11:35] <jhohn> but I know there is something like that
[11:35] <jhohn> not a GUI, a program to show the processes
[11:36] <jhohn> maybe kprocesses or so
[11:36] <gr8m8> top in konsole is the best way to check apps
[11:36] <agu10^> oh, the system monitor
[11:36] <gr8m8> hit k and type the pid of the app to kill
[11:36] <jhohn> hmmm, that might be the one
[11:37] <jhohn> agu10^ said no console pls.
[11:37] <agu10^> yeah, lol
[11:38] <jhohn> its easier to use the console
[11:38] <gr8m8> +1 on that
[11:38]  * jhohn needs some food
[11:39] <agu10^> not for me ;)
[11:40] <agu10^> console means I have to study in order to even use other features I would easily find with a GUI :/
[11:48] <gr8m8> !cli
[12:11] <nyl> http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7981/syamore.png
[12:11] <nyl> can someone help me
[12:11] <nyl> don't have keyboard on the device
[12:12] <tony_> when i install some things, they'r enot in the menu. how do i find where they went?
[12:14] <gr8m8> tony_:  normally they go to the /usr/bin directory
[12:15] <tony_> yeah, i just that about apt though. install an app, have to hunt it down
[12:15] <tony_> may as well just search google
[12:15] <gr8m8> not all apps have menu entries
[12:15] <gr8m8> depends on the app
[12:16] <nyl> can someone explain me how to make it auto login
[12:16] <nyl> and and start X?
[12:16] <gr8m8> you can't without kdm or gdm
[12:17] <gr8m8> you need one of them to set autologin
[12:17] <nyl> i guess i need some kind of emulator
[12:17] <ralsina> sure you can.
[12:17] <ralsina> Adding something like su username -c "startx" in inittab or even rc.local
[12:18] <ralsina> or whatever the upstart equivalents are/will be ;-)
[12:21] <gr8m8> that won't work without the environment being setup afaik
[12:22] <nyl> gonna try to load the system with qemu
[12:22]  * ralsina has done it, at least a bazillion years ago on Debian
[12:23] <nyl> and see what i can do
[12:24] <ralsina> here's what used to work:
[12:24] <ralsina>  sx:2:respawn:/bin/su - ralsina -c exec xinit >/dev/null 2>&1
[12:24] <ralsina> On /etc/inittab
[12:24] <ralsina> And of course a correct .xinitrc in your ~
[12:28] <gr8m8> doesn't work when console kit is installed
[12:32] <anna_> after upgrade I can not login anymore. Everytime I do so, the Login screen reapears.
[12:33] <anna_> login in console modus works, startx works as well, but why does the login screen fail?
[12:35] <anna_> I got a laptop X60 with Intel 945GM, xorg.log says "can not load module "i810"" could this be the cause? how to solve that?
[12:35] <ct529> hi guys, anyone who is using desktop activities in kde?
[12:37] <geekosopher> !anyone | ct529
[12:38] <ct529> geekosopher: I would like to have some pointers to good documentation that is all. I have been googling and reading, and then trying but all I can get is quite messy.
[12:41] <ct529> geekosopher: it seems that either they are not quite well deployed on kubuntu (because what other people can achieve is quite aestetically pleasing) or I am not using the right documentation.
[12:42] <ct529> geekosopher: I would like to have a nice activity swicther, with several different activities that I can use to show people the flexibility / friendliness of the interface
[12:42] <ct529> geekosopher: (kde interface)
[12:42] <ct529> geekosopher: best thing I found is http://hanschen.org/2009/11/17/how-do-you-use-activities/ but cannot reproduce his results
[12:43] <yofel> hm, the activity switcher should be reachable from teh cashew on the desktop
[12:43] <yofel> where did he get *that* activitiy switcher from though..
[12:44] <ct529> yofel: exactly. It looks brilliant.
[12:44] <ct529> yofel: the cashew one is cumbersome .... :-)
[12:45] <geekosopher> ct529: funny I reached the same page by myself :)
[12:46] <yofel> ct529: found it, go to the panel -> add widgets -> activity bar
[12:46] <yofel> (note: I'm using 4.6 so I hope you have it too)
[12:47] <ct529> yofel: nope, stuck on 453 .... I am using 1004 lts on a producton machine
[12:48] <yofel> ct529: do you have 'plasma-widgets-workspace' installed?
[12:48] <ct529> yofel: wait
[12:49] <ct529> yofel: yes
[12:49] <geekosopher> yofel: there is activity bar on 4.5.3 as well
[12:50] <yofel> good, can't really check this here :/
[12:52] <ct529> yofel: yes, I found it
[12:54] <harrison> hello
[12:54] <ct529> yofel: mmmm .... when I use it to switch activity, it does disappear .... you have to define it within each activity .... also, whenever you add an activity type desktop, it goes back to some default setting instead of using you Desktop settings (if you are using it)
[12:56] <harrison> hello can someone tell me how stable kde 4.6 rc2 is
[12:59] <yofel> harrison: rc1 is reasonably stable, I only get one crash on logout, rc2 should be available for kubuntu in a day or 2
[12:59] <harrison> isnt it out
[12:59] <yofel> released from KDE yes, but the packaging is stuck a bit
[13:00] <yofel> should  hopefully be sorted out today
[13:00] <harrison> cool
[13:00] <harrison> so how would i install
[13:01] <yofel> it'll be available at the same place where rc1 is available now, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[13:01] <yofel> just check kubuntu.org for the announcement
[13:01] <harrison> thanks for info - btw any noticable changes in 4.6 or is it all bug fixs
[13:05] <harrison> well thanks anyway for your time
[13:06] <yofel> there were a few changes, I don't know all of them though, just look for some 4.6 beta review on the net
[13:07] <harrison> thanks
[13:07] <harrison> cya
[13:10] <ngong> have HDA Intel AD1981HD in laptop Lenovo x60, does not work, e.g. aplay reports cannot find card '0'
[13:12] <gr8m8> !intelhda
[13:25] <JackOfHearts> hello i got question
[13:25] <JackOfHearts> better to take 900 mg dxm or 450 mg dxm + 150 mg  codein ?
[13:28] <JackOfHearts> so any one?
[13:31] <ab> hello
[13:32] <JackOfHearts> hello
[13:39] <rork> JackOfHearts: this is hardly the place of asking medical questions
[13:43] <supermagic> GM
[13:43] <supermagic> wut did u need to know medical i know some
[14:09] <DaSkreeCH> Hello I have an issue
[14:09] <DaSkreeCH>  After putting in my name to kdm I get a Xterm
[14:11] <DaSkreeCH> I have to run startkde myself
[14:11] <jhohn> Did you choose failsafe for the session in Login Window somehow?
[14:12] <DaSkreeCH> Don't think so
[14:12] <jhohn> Don't think so means unsure ... pls. check
[14:12] <DaSkreeCH> jhohn: hmm
[14:13] <DaSkreeCH> apparently I hadn't selected anything
[14:13] <DaSkreeCH> I have no session at all
[14:13] <jhohn> if you have a xterm you have a session
[14:13] <DaSkreeCH> Nothing was selected for the session
[14:13] <jhohn> moment pls.
[14:22] <jhohn> DaSkreeCH: pls try: logoff and logon again,  choose "KDE" for session in logon screen (kdm)
[14:23] <DaSkreeCH> jhohn: That works
[14:24] <jhohn> it normaly uses the last choise, so if you once start with failsafe it will do so untill you change it
[14:25] <jhohn> and somehow you once started in failsafe mode
[14:25] <jhohn> maybe something went wrong in normal startup and kdm started failsafe for chance of repair
[14:30] <DaSkreeCH> jhohn: looks so. I uninstalled gdm and installed kdm might have done it
[14:31] <DaSkreeCH> Kdm apparently doesn't set a default
[14:31] <DaSkreeCH> which means failsafe would be the best choice
[14:39] <tsev> yo
[14:41] <thales--> Can anyone help me with a little Plasmoid Development doubt?^^
[14:44] <rork> thales--: I think #plasma is the best channel to ask, you may also ask your question here.
[14:47] <jhohn> !anyone | thales--
[14:48] <thales--> Hey, I am creating a plasmoid which has only a label.text and when I dock it on a thin panel it shows its text like if it has a padding = 2px or something, does anyone know how I can fix that?
[14:56] <chb> just a quick question - is kde 4.6rc2 on the repo yet?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:01] <jhohn> !Howdy
[15:02] <BluesKaj> quiet here this morning
[15:02] <jhohn> chb: on ppa, you need to add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[15:02] <jhohn> its afternoon
[15:02] <jhohn> ;o)
[15:03] <chb> jhohn, ok - it looks like I'm missing something kde-full: Depends: kdenetwork (>= 4:4.5.90) but it is not going to be installed.
[15:07] <BluesKaj> chb, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then , sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa ..if you are trying to upgrade kde
[15:23] <yofel> ch-b: kde-full isn't installable for rc1 since kdenetwork 4.5.90 is missing (didn't build)
[15:23] <yofel> 4.5.95 seems to build so far so that'll hopefully  be built soon
[15:23] <ch-b> yofel, ah ok that's what I thought, thanks
[15:23] <yofel> er, *fixed soon
[15:38] <Nataniel> do you know some good music mixer with controiling/muting particular programs? veromix would be good, but  it doesn't support  keyboard shourtcut's . Kmix does, but have only one master volume...
[15:52] <Guest86006> Hallo allerseits.
[15:53] <Guest86006> Ist da jemand draußen?
[15:53] <yofel> Guest86006: hallo, hier wird jedoch englisch gesprochen, deutsch bitte in #kubuntu-de
[15:54] <Guest86006> Sorry
[15:55] <Guest86006> ok, it seems there is someone.
[15:55] <Guest86006> I have a problem using kubuntu and I need some quick help
[15:56] <yofel> fire away, we'll see if I can help
[15:57] <Guest86006> I have a USB harddisk plugged to my pc. As I inserted an secound usb device, the hd got unmounted/disconnected while ther was some file transfer
[15:57] <Guest86006> On the hd there is a xfs (!) filesystem.
[15:58] <Guest86006> I reinsertet the usb harddrive but now it is no more the device sdd but sdf.
[15:59] <Guest86006> As xfs writes very lazyly to the disk, some of the written data are sill in ram. (dmesg sais, that the device /dev/sdd1 returns an xfs error nr.5)
[16:01] <Guest86006> I had such a problem on a debian system, but there the same name as before was used, so after reinserting the usb device, all data were written an all went ok
[16:02] <Guest86006> I do not know whether the device has some critical data written in ram. I deleted files from the hd, so there should not be a big damage, if the data is lost, bt I do not know if other data might be corrupted if I restart my pc
[16:03] <Guest86006> So: Does anybody has an idea, what I can do to restore the data or - if that's not possible - how I can restore the superblock
[16:03] <Guest86006> ?
[16:04] <Guest86006> (a manual mount sais: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdf1)
[16:07] <yofel> back, had to take care of something, reading..
[16:09] <yofel> Guest86006: well, try fsck.xfs (?) on the drive I guess, the device name change was probably since the kernel didn't yet throw it out and connected it as a different device
[16:11] <Guest86006> a fsck.xfs tells me, that I should look at xfs_check and xfs_repair.
[16:12] <Guest86006> xfs_check sais, ERROR: The filesystem has valuable metadata changes in a log which needs to
[16:12] <Guest86006> be replayed.  Mount the filesystem to replay the log, and unmount it before
[16:12] <Guest86006> re-running xfs_check.  If you are unable to mount the filesystem, then use
[16:12] <Guest86006> the xfs_repair -L option to destroy the log and attempt a repair.
[16:12] <Guest86006> Note that destroying the log may cause corruption -- please attempt a mount
[16:12] <FloodBotK3> Guest86006: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <Guest86006> of the filesystem before doing this.
[16:13] <DarthFrog> If you use "xfs_repair -L", you'd lose any unwritten data.  Mind you, I don't see a way out of your dilemma.
[16:14] <DarthFrog> And restoring the superblock isn't the issue.
[16:15] <Guest86006> that's it. I was wondering if could tell the kernel to look at device sdd instead of sdf (or vice versa)
[16:17] <DarthFrog> Doubt it.  Don't know for certain though.
[16:20] <Guest86006> ok, no else idea than deleting the canges with xfs_repair -L?
[16:21] <Guest86006> What changes can be deletet? I mean, is it possible, that after that some files from earlier (before the last umount) get also corrupted?
[16:21] <DarthFrog> Shouldn't be.  File systems are atomic, I believe, on XFS.
[16:23] <DarthFrog> BTW, if you mount file systems by UUID, instead of by device name, you will avoid this problem (which shouldn't have occurred in the first place) in future.
[16:23] <DarthFrog> !uuid
[16:24] <Guest86006> I mounted it using the kde feature
[16:24] <DarthFrog> UUID = Unique Unix ID  or Unix Unique ID. :-)
[16:24] <Guest86006> I know UUID, but I do not know how to tel kde/plasma to use uuids instead of the normal /dev/sd** files.
[16:25] <DarthFrog> Guest86006: It really sounds like a bug to me, that the device name was changed on a mounted file system.
[16:25] <Guest86006> tell - I mean
[16:25] <DarthFrog> You'd have to do it manually.  Or setup automounting in fstab for that file system.
[16:26] <Guest86006> I think the problem is a (partially) hardware problem: As I inserted the second device, the usb did not have enough power (current!) to drive all devices. So they were thrown out.
[16:26] <Guest86006> yes, that would work
[16:31] <Guest86006> OK, I did it
[16:32] <Guest86006> I think I have to restart because my kernel seems to know that there was the same uuid mounted and not unmounted.
[16:33] <Guest86006> see you in 5 min
[16:47] <christian> ok, back here
[16:49] <Guest45950> the reboot did the right thing, now I have to check the files.
[16:49] <Guest45950> One other question:
[16:50] <Guest45950> Is it possible to configure mount or what else so, that as I insert a special usb-device it get's automatically mounted?
[16:52] <Mamarok> Guest45950: you can set this in the System settings -> Removable Devices
[16:54] <Guest45950> No, that's not what I mean. I want it to be mounted by uuid and that seems not possible in system control
[16:56] <DarthFrog> Guest45950: I'm not sure that would actually solve your issue.  If, as you mention, the USB file system was removed from the system due to it being underpowered, the solution would seem to be to add more power to the USB system.
[16:56] <DarthFrog> I would do so by using an externally powered USB hub.
[16:56] <Guest45950> (or not to add that much devices at once)
[16:57] <DarthFrog> Yes, that would obviate the issue. :-)
[16:57] <Guest45950> Next order at a electronic seller will contain one.
[16:58] <DarthFrog> Another idea would be to use the external drive in an eSATA case and connect via the SATA bus, instead of USB.  It would be faster, too.
[16:58] <Guest45950> Is eSATA with every SATA HD possible?
[16:58] <DarthFrog> Firewire would be another possibility.
[16:59] <Guest45950> No, no hardware for firewire in pc, sorry
[16:59] <DarthFrog> eSATA is SATA, so yes you could do eSATA with any SATA drive.
[16:59] <Guest45950> ok, thanks a ot till here
[16:59] <DarthFrog> Your system would need to provide an eSATA port and you'd have to use an eSATA capable external case.
[17:00] <DarthFrog> But your system would see an external SATA drive exactly the same as any other SATA drive in your system.
[17:02] <DarthFrog> This is the eSATA case I use with my HD PVR:  http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=39419&vpn=NST-300SU-BK&manufacture=Vantec
[17:02] <DarthFrog> Works fine.
[17:12] <renate> anyone ot there?
[17:22] <ngong> following an upgrade, the sound chip (Intel HDA / AD1981) is not recognized any longer. aplay -l does not list any device. Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto. What else can I do?
[17:55] <agnese> ciao!
[17:57] <rork> hi agnese
[17:57] <rork> !it
[18:24] <FloridaGuy> in kde 4.6 RC1 is strigi indexing agent has been disabled.....is that part of the new pim thats not ready yet?
[18:29] <DaSkreeCH> FloridaGuy: No it's not
[18:30] <FloridaGuy> DaSkreeCH: then what is....everytime i login..i get that messahe
[18:31] <phoenix_firebrd> FloridaGuy: try #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <FloridaGuy> what is this......kde 4.6 rc1 ....
[18:32] <FloridaGuy> Strigi Indexing Agent Has Been Disabled
[18:32] <FloridaGuy> The Strigi service is not available or fully operational and attempts to rectify this have failed. Therefore indexing of all data stored in the Akonadi PIM service has been disabled, which will severely limit the capabilities of any application using this data.
[18:32] <FloodBotK3> FloridaGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <antonio__> hi...I'm having trouble on sound...no sound at all and in kmix, I have no channels
[18:34] <domux_> do you use pulseaudio or alsa ?
[18:36] <antonio__> I guess I have both installed...how do I check which one is being used?
[18:37] <yofel> on maverick pulseaudio is used by default
[18:37] <domux_> basically when you install ubuntu you already have pulseaudio
[18:38] <antonio__> should I remove alsa? they used to conflict
[18:39] <yofel> no, pulseaudio uses alsa for hardware access and only does the mixing mostly, try 'pavucontrol'
[18:39] <yofel> pulseaudio support in phonon isn't exactly great :S
[18:41] <antonio__> sill no sound
[18:42] <domux_> open a terminal and try alsamixer or install pavucontrol
[18:42] <antonio__> I have both...no mutes on any channel, both seem fine...
[18:44] <antonio__> another odd thing is, in systemsettings->multimedia I have greyed devices which I think that shouldn't be there...how do I remove them?
[18:51] <DaSkreeCH> FloridaGuy: Strigi is the indexer that KDE uses by default
[18:51] <DaSkreeCH> FloridaGuy: It will go through your directories and files and extract relevant information so you can saerch for it easily later
[18:56] <antonio__> still no sound
[18:56] <antonio__> what else should I try?
[18:58] <domux_> try pulseaudio -D
[19:01] <domux_> what is your daemon.conf in /etc/pulse
[19:02] <antonio__> sorry had to reboot
[19:05] <domux_> okay so what did pulseaudio -D say ?
[19:09] <antonio__> domux_: autch....daemon startup failed
[19:11] <antonio__> but the process is running
[19:11] <antonio__> stoping the service doesn't kill it :P
[19:13] <domux_> kill and start it again
[19:14] <antonio__> doesn't want to die...it starts again after I kill it
[19:18] <domux_> ok try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1495550
[19:20] <solifugus> How can I setup a remote printer?
[19:21] <solifugus> need to print to a networked printer...
[19:22] <solifugus> This link says to use kdeprint, but there's no such executable nor package: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/printing/C/print.html
[19:27] <domux_> system settings > printer > select new printer tab and click on new network printer to configure it
[19:27] <antonio_> domux_: no luck
[19:28] <domux_> select add*
[19:28] <domux_> solifugus: select add*
[19:29] <domux_> antonio_: what's hapen
[19:29] <antonio_> I ended up removing .pulse and rebooted...still no sound
[19:30] <domux_> :s ok
[19:30] <domux_> hum
[19:37] <antonio_> domux_: looks better :) after removing .pulse, I ran alsamixer and the master channel was muted...I have sound now :)
[19:37] <antonio_> thanx
[19:38] <domux_> you welcome ;)
[19:46] <domux_> antonio_: use pavucontrol ;)
[19:46] <domux_> if you have some trouble with pulse
[20:06] <_dreamy> hi, is it safe to have "afterStep" with kubuntu 10.10, i have been having some trouble changing sessions
[20:11] <domux_> hav no idea
[20:14] <DaSkreeCH> _dreamy: Should be
[20:14] <DaSkreeCH> Ubuntu treats sessions a little funny but nothing that's not surmountable
[20:18] <DaSkreeCH> Is there a plasma-desktop-dbg type package?
[20:42] <Tm_T> DaSkreeCH: kdebase-workspace-dbg - debugging symbols for the KDE Plasma Workspaces
[20:58] <DaSkreeCH> Tm_T: Thanks
[21:07] <Feared> Does anyone here use Chrome?
[21:08] <stalcup> not on KDE
[21:08] <yofel> I use chromium from time to time
[21:09] <stalcup> I like it on mac
[21:16] <agnese> ciao
[21:16] <agnese> list
[21:20] <Feared> Hmm. It seems to have an issue with font smoothing. Makes the bookmark/titlebar text much bigger than it should be.
[21:20] <Feared> Firefox and Opera seem to be amazingly slow on Linux for me.
[21:20] <dac> join #ubuntu
[21:21] <Feared> Firefox takes 6 seconds (literally) to load up google.
[21:21] <Feared> Chrome instantly.
[21:21] <Feared> Why? I'm on Kubuntu.
[21:21] <ecinx> How do i put a cd w/o a cd drive? it's tellingme put disc labeled '..." in the drive '/cdrom/' I have an iso, and the extracted contents in the same  usb stick
[21:21] <ecinx> feared it is instant in IE9 too
[21:22] <Feared> Why would I use IE on linux?
[21:22] <ecinx> Firefox probably has plugins you might want to disable
[21:22] <Feared> It's a fresh install of firefox.
[21:22] <Feared> Zero plugins.
[21:22] <Feared> Excluding the plugin that's installed by default.
[21:22] <ecinx> I'm not telling you to use IE, but IE tells you the speed of the plugins
[21:23] <ecinx> so i thought that might help w/ the firefox situation
[21:23] <ecinx> but 6 seconds means someting is funny
[21:23] <Feared> Well chrome does the job perfectly. The only issue is the UI. The fonts are larger than it should be.
[21:24] <Feared> I'll show you.
[21:25] <Feared> http://i53.tinypic.com/2s7baxf.png
[21:26] <Feared> Well TinyPic seem'd to want to resize it... -_-
[21:26] <kaddi> Hi, I just finished installing kubuntu and when I do a apt-get update it says "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:26] <kaddi> " how can I check what program is using the lists atm?
[21:27] <kaddi> k, nevermind, it's working now, I must have been too quick for kubuntu :p
[21:28] <ecinx> mine is asking for /cdrom/ I don't have a cd drive just the iso and contents
[21:29] <ubuntuku> Feared: try disable ipv6
[21:30] <ecinx> How do i control the brightness on my screen?
[21:31] <Feared> Hmmm.
[21:31] <ubuntuku> ecinx: system settings - power management - edit profiles
[21:31] <Feared> ubuntuku: Thanks, that seem'd to fix it.
[21:34] <ecinx> ubuntuku: thanks
[21:35] <kaddi> can I mount the backup image of an entire drive (with several partitions) in kubuntu?
[21:35] <ecinx> Media changed please insert the disc labled
[21:35] <ecinx> how do i do that?
[21:37] <stalcup> this is odd
[21:37] <stalcup> I finished 4.5.5 and only 6 are showing up on the ppa
[21:42] <James147> kaddi: most likly, depends on what format its in... it is a raw disk image then "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image /path/to/mountpoint" will do it
[21:42] <DaSkreeCH> ecinx: what format?
[21:43] <ecinx> back
[21:43] <James147> kaddi: o wait, eitire drive... makes things alittle different :S
[21:43] <kaddi> I think I have found a reply, but I blocked myself out as I'm currently updating
[21:43] <ecinx> DaSkreeCH: format? I have an iso on the usb drive, and the contents extracted from unetbootin
[21:43] <kaddi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery see here, you can define an offset when mounting
[21:44] <kaddi> but I can't determine the offset without installing mmls and I'm running an apt-get upgrade.. so all i need is patience :p
[21:45] <kaddi> sample command: sudo mount -o loop,offset=16384 file mnt
[21:46] <ecinx> How do I know my version of KDE
[21:46] <DaSkreeCH> ecinx: mount hte ISO
[21:46] <James147> kaddi: :) good to know its not hard
[21:46] <DaSkreeCH> the
[21:46] <DaSkreeCH> ecinx: help -> about KDE
[21:47] <ecinx> thanks
[21:47] <ecinx> 4.6 RC1
[21:51] <ecinx> how do i mount?
[21:51] <sithlord48> ecinx:  mount <device> <folder to mount to>
[21:51] <ecinx> I tried rightclicking  to mount
[21:52] <ecinx> ok sithlord48 ill try that
[21:52] <sithlord48> oh , your mounting an iso. look in the package manager for iso mount
[21:52] <James147> ^^ if your trying to mount an iso then add "-o loop" to sithlord48 command
[21:52] <sithlord48> ecinx:  or do taht
[21:53] <genii-around> You should also probably put -t iso9660
[21:53] <ecinx> I don't know what the devise  is the USB , it says 964.8 MiB Removable Media
[21:54] <ecinx> mount  964.8 MiB Removable Media /cdrom/ -o loop
[21:54] <ecinx> ?
[21:56] <James147> ecinx: what exactly are you trying to mount?
[21:56] <ecinx> i have two options, the iso, or the stick
[21:56] <ecinx> either are the same contents
[21:56] <rtdos> how do i update the repository list and or remove my installation cd from the list ?
[21:57] <James147> ecinx: for the iso: "sudo mount -o loop <path to the .iso file> <path to mount point>"...
[21:57] <DarthFrog> You might have to pass "-t iso9660" to that mount command.
[21:57] <James147> for the usb: "sudo mount /dev/sdXX <path to mount point>" (where sdXX is the device file for the stick, probally sdb1 sdc1 or similar)
[22:01] <ecinx> home/ecinx/Documents# sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/ecinx/Desktop/natty-desktop-amd64kB.iso /cdrom/
[22:02] <James147> ecinx: its better to use /mnt then /cdrom
[22:02] <ecinx> it's asking me to put something specifically in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:02] <James147> ok then
[22:02] <ecinx> the line i pasted didn't work
[22:03] <ecinx> let me try the usb one
[22:03] <James147> ecinx: did it give an error/.
[22:03] <ecinx> nope
[22:04] <James147> ecinx: then it probally worked... does the output of "mount" list it?
[22:04] <ecinx> I don't knw what you mean
[22:05] <ecinx> actualy i think it worked
[22:06] <James147> ecinx: running "mount" by its self will show what devices are mounted
[22:07] <ecinx> home/ecinx/Documents# sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/ecinx/Desktop/natty-desktop-amd64kB.iso /cdrom/
[22:07] <ecinx> sorry
[22:07] <ecinx> /dev/loop0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (rw)
[22:08] <James147> ^^ i would think thats it,
[22:08] <ecinx> in dolphin i don't see anyting
[22:09] <ecinx> under /cdrom/
[22:09] <James147> ecinx: unmount it first then try to remount: "sudo umount /cdrom"
[22:09] <ecinx> how do i use dir
[22:09] <ecinx> to list contents?
[22:10] <James147> ecinx: and use "ls" to use directory conecnts (like you would dir in windows)
[22:10] <ecinx> whovever made that umount command is lazy
[22:10] <ecinx> instead of unmount
[22:10] <James147> :) yeah
[22:10] <ecinx> that pisses me off, more memorization
[22:10] <ecinx> and it takes me longer to type umount than unmount
[22:11] <James147> you get use to it
[22:11] <ecinx> hehe
[22:11] <rtdos> just make an alias, ecinx :)
[22:11] <ecinx> nice
[22:11] <James147> ecinx: or you can "alias unmount='umount'"  will let you use unmount
[22:12] <ecinx> thaks
[22:12] <James147> ^^ add that command to ~/.bashrc  to make it work between sessions
[22:12] <ecinx> let me jot that down
[22:13] <ecinx> I use alias a lot in latex
[22:13] <rtdos> where in .bashrc would you put that command, james?
[22:13] <ecinx> too much
[22:14] <James147> rtdos: anywhere, dosnt really matter (well, after the interactive check would be wise) i tend to put it with the other alias commands to keep it neat
[22:14] <ecinx> almost to the point that i can type formulas faster than handwriting them
[22:15] <ecinx> anyone with quassel how do i ignore the quits and joins
[22:15] <James147> ecinx: right click the chat window
[22:16] <James147> "hide events"
[22:17] <rtdos> how do i update the repository list and or remove my installation cd from the list ?
[22:17] <ecinx> James147:  that was easy
[22:17] <ecinx> i lost the command that i was using
[22:18] <ecinx> apt-get fix missing
[22:18] <ecinx> or something like that
[22:18] <James147> rtdos: "sudo apt-get update" will update it, kpackagekit can edit the list to remove it (or edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly)
[22:19] <rtdos> how do i keep it from requesting the cd ?
[22:20] <James147> rtdos: use kpackagekit to remove the repo for the cdrom
[22:21] <rtdos> oh i see it, thanks.
[22:21] <ecinx> i can't believe my windows are more stable than linux, i always here the contrary
[22:21] <James147> ecinx: its likly soemthing you have done/the hardware you are on
[22:21] <ecinx> my laptop is linux certified
[22:22] <ecinx> although I didn't install any drivers
[22:22] <James147> ecinx: whats not stable about it?
[22:22] <ecinx> and any configurations
[22:22] <ecinx> many things, when I installed kubuntu
[22:22] <ecinx> it booted the first time and then didn't work after
[22:22] <ecinx> now I installed ubuntu, then kdestkop
[22:23] <ecinx> before installing kdesktop, under gnome or w/e it was it had it's quirks
[22:23] <ecinx> and now sometimes i need to restart twice before i can put a password on
[22:23] <ecinx> anyways that's not that important
[22:24] <ecinx> the more problems i have, the more i learn
[22:25] <James147> ecinx: :) thats what I like about linux, problems are jsut a learning experence, unlike windows where they are just a problem
[22:25] <ecinx> you mean the cryptic crash reports?
[22:25] <ecinx> which never gets a solution
[22:26] <James147> yeah
[22:26] <ecinx> hehe
[22:26] <rtdos> what's the difference between elinks and elinks-lite ?
[22:27] <ecinx> you don't have to be a programmer to read something you might not understand but will give you a clue
[22:27] <James147> rtdos: i would guestt its feature set "-lite" having less ^^ to make its more lightweight
[22:27] <ecinx> windows gives info that is probably referenced with something MS has internally
[22:27] <James147> ecinx: ^^ being a programmer dosent help in windows :p
[22:27] <ecinx> I know
[22:29] <rtdos> looking into it more, james, thanks. :)
[22:30] <James147> rtdos: unless space is a major consern, then i would just suggest elinks eather then the -lite
[22:33] <godos> hello
[22:33] <ecinx> I still get Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[22:33] <ecinx>  'Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Alpha amd64 (20101202)'
[22:33] <ecinx> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:33] <godos> i have a problem with my kubuntu system can anybody help me?
[22:33] <ecinx> don't ask to ask
[22:33] <ecinx> just ask
[22:34] <James147> ecinx: what are you trying to do?
[22:34] <godos> gtl vnc viewer is not running any more
[22:34] <James147> godos: cant you start it?
[22:34] <godos> it crashes after loading the first window
[22:34] <godos> it show the window program for a while and suddenly close
[22:35] <godos> it worked for one conection
[22:35] <godos> and when i started again it always crashes
[22:35] <James147> godos: run it in a terminal, see if it give you any more info
[22:35] <godos> yes how
[22:35] <godos> :P
[22:35] <ecinx> James147: sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[22:36] <yofel> that should be 'sudo apt-get install --fix-missing' or just -f
[22:36] <yofel> ah wait, -f was something else
[22:36] <James147> ecinx: try removing the reference to the cdrom in kpackagekit (or directly in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[22:37] <ecinx> i don't know how to do that
[22:37] <yofel> f was fix-broken
[22:37] <James147> ecinx: open kpackagekit > settings > edit origins ... remove the one forf the cdrom
[22:37] <godos> it found 0 errors
[22:37] <ecinx> i can't open kpackagekit
[22:37] <ecinx> it crashes
[22:38] <yofel> ecinx: you're using 4.6?
[22:38] <ecinx> how do i upgrade
[22:38] <ecinx> yes
[22:38] <yofel> ecinx: ah, use 'kdesudo software-properties-kde'
[22:38] <James147> ecinx: then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line for the cdrom
[22:38] <yofel> kpackagekit is known broken, use apt-get or muon for package management
[22:39] <ecinx> kdesudo software-properties-kde
[22:39] <ecinx> No protocol specified
[22:39] <ecinx> kdesudo: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[22:39] <yofel> ecinx: alt+f2 and enter it there
[22:39] <James147> yofel: it is? works fine here in 4.5.x
[22:39] <godos> can you tell me another vnc good viewer?
[22:39] <yofel> James147: broken with KDE SC 4.6
[22:39] <godos> gtk vnc is not working
[22:39] <yofel> at least for us, kpk 0.6.3 works, we have 0.6.2
[22:40] <James147> godos: krdc (should be installed by default in kubuntu as far as i know)
[22:40] <godos> yes
[22:40] <godos> i want to view another pc
[22:40] <godos> with ubuntu dekstop
[22:40] <godos> from my kubuntu
[22:41] <sourcemaker> how can I access the resources in akonadi? For example I can configure a bookmark resource... but which app is using this information via akonadi?
[22:41] <godos> oups sorry
[22:41] <godos> i found it
[22:41] <godos> :))
[22:41] <godos> thank you
[22:42] <godos> i have another problem
[22:42] <godos> i run kubuntu with a netbook with an 23'' external monitor
[22:42] <godos> i run a command on startup to change the resolution
[22:42] <godos> but the taskbar is not resizing
[22:43] <godos> to fit the corners
[22:43] <ecinx> it doesn't allow me to save
[22:43] <godos> and every time i startup my pc i need to resize the taskbar
[22:43] <James147> godos: right click thepanel > panel settings > mode settings > aximize panel
[22:43] <godos> yes
[22:43] <godos> but every time i must do that
[22:43] <ecinx> i tried to edit it with kate
[22:43] <ecinx> it doesn't allow me to save
[22:44] <godos> because it changes the resolution to an external monitor
[22:44] <James147> ecinx: "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:44] <James147> (kdesudo as you need root premissions to edit the file)
[22:45] <ecinx> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:45] <ecinx> No protocol specified
[22:45] <ecinx> kdesudo: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[22:46] <James147> ecinx: where are you typing teh commands? in konsole?
[22:46] <ecinx> si
[22:46] <James147> si?
[22:46] <ecinx> yes
[22:46] <ecinx> sorry
[22:47] <James147> ecinx: ^^ try from krunner (alt+f2)
[22:47] <ecinx> you can't tabcomplete directories there?
[22:47] <James147> ecinx: no, but you can copy paste :)
[22:48] <James147> or you can try a commandline editor like nano (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)
[22:49] <ecinx> donee, now do i run 'sudo apt-get update --fix-missing' or sudo apt-get install--fix-missing
[22:49] <ecinx> i've read vim is pretty good
[22:49] <ecinx> i'll get to it when i have the time
[22:49] <James147> ecinx: i would "sudo apt-get update" then the fix missing one
[22:51] <James147> ecinx: i woudlnt recomand vim now... its takes a long time to learn :) ... but if your intrested it is worth while learning (sudo apt-get install vim ... vim it much better the the horribly vi << that will install it) i suggest running "vimtutor" when you want to learn it
[22:51] <ecinx> yeah i tried it
[22:51] <ecinx> it does take a long time to learn
[22:51] <ecinx> i tried vim tutor too
[22:52] <ecinx> brain overload
[22:52] <ecinx> the most important thing to me is kile
[22:52] <James147> ecinx: about a week to get use to it... 2-4 to become as fast with it as other editors, then any time after that you begin to love it :D
[22:52] <ecinx> I  ran the fix missng
[22:52] <ecinx> should i restart?
[22:52]  * James147 notes that kile has vim style input... although its not as good as the actual vim... and so does kate and kdevelop)
[22:53] <ecinx> or proceed to getting kile
[22:53] <James147> ecinx: restart is usually unnneded
[22:54] <James147> ecinx: unless you ahve upgraded a kernel then just restart what was upgraded... although if your unsure, then a reboot wont hurt (well, at least it shouldnt hurt.. assuming you havent forgotten something)
[22:54]  * James147 remembers the time he uninstalled grub and forgot to reinstallit again before a reboot...
[22:55] <ecinx> isn't kile kate withsome latex stuff on?
[22:55] <ecinx> apt-get install kile?
[22:55] <James147> ecinx: its kwrite with some latex stuff (kate is kwrite with some other stuff)
[22:56] <ecinx> ahh
[22:56] <James147> ecinx: and yes, that should install it
[22:56] <James147> (well, kate is kwrite with konsole and some other stuff :D )
[22:57] <ecinx> are you familiar wiht kile?
[22:57] <James147> ecinx: unsed it once... then went back to vim :)
[22:57] <ecinx> oh
[22:57] <ecinx> can't go wrong with vim once set up as you like
[22:58] <James147> at the time i found the ltex-suite plugin for vim mow to my taste... but now i dont use that any more but jsut vim + a makefile
[22:58] <ecinx> i heard it kinda suck
[22:58] <ecinx> it's very old
[23:00] <James147> it was alright, but it broak the :make command in vim, so i just went to pure Makefiles (since I only really used it for the compiling part... the code completion was nice but a bit weird)
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[23:00] <ecinx> i'm an idiot, it takes me 2 seconds to move the mousepad to an icon when i can just touch the screen
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> anybody else experiencing KMail's CPU hogging during first few minutes after starting it up?
[23:00] <James147> ecinx: touch screen? nice :)
[23:00] <ecinx> tablet pc
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> just a vanilla Kubuntu here
[23:01] <ecinx> x201
[23:01]  * James147 wishes he had one :(
[23:01] <James147> ^^ btw how is kdes touch screen input?
[23:01] <ecinx> I whished i used the touch screen more it's valued at 250 US
[23:02] <ecinx> I don't know any of the KDE's touch screen feautres
[23:02] <ecinx> pinch zoom works in dolphin, and firefox
[23:03] <James147> ecinx: disable the mouse... then you will either only use the keyboard or learn to use the touch screen... both valid options in my opinion :D
[23:04] <ecinx> lol nice, but some stuff ill have problems with
[23:04] <ecinx> things that are too smal like draggin windows and min, close, maximize
[23:04] <Aderlass> Hello
[23:04] <Aderlass> Just installed kubuntu and wonder, what the su pass is?
[23:04] <ecinx> I think when you "touch that area it should do a zoom on that part of the window so you can select what ou want
[23:05] <ecinx> while kile is still installing i have some other questions
[23:06] <ecinx> How can i do auto braces {}
[23:06] <ecinx> and put me inside the braces
[23:06] <kaddi> is there a way to list installed packages on a system if I'm accessing it from a live-cd?
[23:06] <James147> ecinx: try playing with the widgets on plasma-desktop
[23:06] <James147> Aderlass: there is non, use sudo <command> to run a command as root
[23:06] <James147> Aderlass: its not advised, but you can use "sudo -i" to login as root
[23:06] <ecinx> How can i exit braces by using the enterkey
[23:07] <James147> ecinx: you can change the size of the titlebar in system settings
[23:07] <Aderlass> James147 Can i create a su and use my login only as user, as in other distris? :) i liked that system
[23:08] <ecinx> i dont know where the widgets are
[23:08] <James147> Aderlass: creating a root passsword is highly not advised.... you can do anything you need via sudo or sudo -i ... but yes it is possible
[23:08] <Aderlass> hm okay. :)
[23:09] <ecinx> I have an icon on the upper right, when i click it says  + add widgets
[23:09] <ecinx> something shows in the bottom for < 1 second and goes away
[23:11] <James147> ecinx: that would be the add widget window ... not sure why its disapearing... try right clicking the desktop by where it appears then click add widgets (try to make it so the mouse will end over where the window will appear... probally a focus thing...)
[23:11] <ecinx> rightclick add widget worked
[23:15] <ecinx> what widget do you recomend
[23:16] <James147> ecinx: it depnds on what you want... play with them and you will find ones you like
[23:21] <ecinx> in windows i used autohotkey
[23:21] <ecinx> to do {}
[23:21] <ecinx> i did a hotstring ,br to do {} and put me in the brace
[23:22] <ecinx> then someone wrote a script for me to check of } is  to the right of the cursor and when that happens 'enter' key does 'right' arrow
[23:23] <James147> ecinx: i know kate has an auto bracer plugin, although i havent tryed it yet... kile might have the same (if it has plugings)
[23:23] <ecinx> yes it has kates auto brace
[23:23] <ecinx> but it's really made for programming
[23:26] <ecinx> in my vbox i tried to use autohotkey but it didn't work
[23:27] <ecinx> hmm. i see three versoin of it in synaptic
[23:27] <ecinx> common, gtk+ , and qt what's that?
[23:29] <James147> gtk+ is the toolkit gnome uses, qt is the toolkit kde uses
[23:29] <James147> common is probally needed by both
[23:30] <ecinx> so i have to do apt-get install autokey-qt
[23:30] <James147> ecinx: note that in kde you can set up input actions to auto type stuff for you
[23:30] <ecinx> and apt-get install autokey-common?
[23:30] <ecinx> how can i do that?
[23:31] <ecinx> woo, i think kile is done
[23:31] <James147> ^^ see the system settings > shortcut and gestures > custom shortcuts
[23:32] <ecinx> kile seems to wrok fine :)
[23:41] <Aderlass> I'm trying to set up wireless lan on my netbook (Lenovo S12 ION, Braodcom Ethernet/Wifi), enabled the Broadcom wireless Driver (I can choose between STA and B43, tried both) but i can't find any networks
[23:42] <ecinx> it doesn't accept hotstrings, just CTRL + a letter
[23:45] <James147> ecinx: ah, guess it wotn work then :P
[23:45] <ecinx> nope
[23:48] <kleopatra> Hello i know that on port 34944 a server runs, how can i stop it?
[23:49] <ecinx> what's a good channel for app suggestions?