[00:30] <shawn146> hi
[00:36] <shawn146> hi
[00:36] <shawn146> CensoredBiscuit do you have a Jornada 720?
[00:37] <CensoredBiscuit> no sorry shawn146 I dont why?
[00:37] <shawn146> oh :(
[00:37] <shawn146> i ahve been stuck for days on a problem with getting jlime to work
[00:37] <shawn146> i am using generic ahrdware
[00:37] <shawn146> Sandisk 512 MB CF
[00:37] <shawn146> Jornada 720
[00:38] <shawn146> good hardware
[00:45] <shawn146> kernal panic
[00:45] <shawn146> not syncing
[00:45] <shawn146> (0,0)
[00:45] <shawn146> block
[00:55] <Midnightryder2> This is my first time in a chat room so please forgive my ignorance and correct me if I am wrong about anything. I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and am looking for an application or program to download subscription paid Mp3 files to a Media Card Device like a BlackBerry Storm2. I can download from Internet & save in My Music files but Rythmbox imports the files. I do not see a way to download to handheld device. Any suggestio
[00:55] <Midnightryder2> ns?
[00:56] <holstein> Midnightryder2: you could drag them over tot he media card
[00:56] <holstein> if you can mount it in the computer
[00:56] <holstein> theres a program for the droid called webshare
[00:56] <holstein> lets you drag things over to the SD card over the network
[00:57] <holstein> maybe theres something like that
[00:57] <holstein> OR, maybe you can just plug the phone in USB and sync
[00:57] <Midnightryder2> Rythmbox does import my files from BB so I know it recognizes the device.
[00:57] <holstein> http://www.instructables.com/id/Easily-sync-music-and-podcasts-to-your-Blackberry-/
[00:59] <Midnightryder2> I have connected USB but cannot find a way for Rythmbox to export foles to device.
[01:01] <holstein> http://forums.crackberry.com/f86/ubuntu-linux-storm-media-files-tutorial-124651/
[01:02] <holstein> Midnightryder2: you could google around for some of the other big media players too
[01:02] <holstein> banshee
[01:02] <holstein> amarok
[01:02]  * holstein drawing a blank...
[01:02] <holstein> tons of them though
[01:02] <holstein> Midnightryder2: with linux, the answer is always yes
[01:03] <holstein> its just, do you really want to
[01:03] <holstein> might be challening
[01:03] <holstein> what you're trying to do should be fine though
[01:05] <Midnightryder2> I have looked for other players. I see several that import Mp3 files but none that export to handheld device. I will checkout the websites you suggested. Thank you.
[01:05] <holstein> banshee does
[01:05] <holstein> i dont know about to your handheld device
[01:05] <holstein> IF you can see it like a hard drive
[01:06] <holstein> which is sometimes a setting somewhere
[01:06] <holstein> you can sync whatever you want to it
[01:06] <holstein> OR, if you can mount the card like i suggested earlier
[01:06] <holstein> it'll just be a writeable drive as far as buntu sees it
[01:07] <holstein> not sure what the blackberry is like though
[01:07] <Midnightryder2> It would be nice if SongBird was included in the software repository. I tried to follow instructions but terminal manager did not let me enter final command. Thanks again.
[01:09] <holstein> i didnt care for it
[01:09] <holstein> what ver....
[01:09] <holstein> hmmm
[01:23] <aveilleux> SongBird's being discontinued on Linux, I hope Midnightryder2 knows that
[01:59] <Red-Raven> hey. anyone know the best partition sizes?
[01:59] <holstein> 0
[01:59] <holstein> ;)
[02:00] <stlsaint> Red-Raven: for a custom install?
[02:00] <stlsaint> Red-Raven: i use: 200MB -> /boot, 12-15GB -> /, (and thats being over generous), the rest i give to /home ;)
[02:01] <stlsaint> Red-Raven: is that what you mean
[02:01] <Red-Raven> installing ubuntu on an old XP desktop and dual booting. ive given 54 GB to linux.
[02:02] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: If you use all one partition, it doesn't really matter all that much. Any more than 20GB or so is fine if you don't store massive collections, like music or movies.
[02:02] <Red-Raven> i am at the part where i pick out all the partitions like the swap etc. and can't remember the right sizes.
[02:03] <holstein> Red-Raven: how much ram do you have?
[02:04] <Red-Raven> 512 MB. im installing ubuntu first, and ill get some slimer environments for it later.
[02:04] <holstein> id prolly want 800 or so for swap
[02:06] <Red-Raven> and for the others? aren't there like three?
[02:07] <holstein> if you want
[02:07] <holstein> i usually just do swap
[02:07] <holstein> and everything in one other partition
[02:07] <holstein> seperate /home partition is a good idea though
[02:07] <holstein> on my EEE
[02:07] <holstein> i have one ext2 partition
[02:07] <holstein> no swap
[02:08] <Red-Raven> ok. ill do this all in the morning. ive got to go to bed soon, and i have too many questions. thx though.
[02:08] <holstein> yeah, give is some thought
[02:08] <Red-Raven> well, afternoon. maybe even friday.
[02:34] <des_> hello
[02:34] <ChrisDruif> Hai des_ :)
[02:34] <des_> anyone here i have question
[02:34] <des_> hi ChrisDruif
[02:35] <ChrisDruif> Shoot, we will try to answer to our best ability :)
[02:35] <des_> i am having problems with program called playonlinux are u familiar
[02:36] <ChrisDruif> It's a graphical layer around Wine if I'm not wrong?
[02:36] <holstein> how about /j #playonlinux ?
[02:36] <holstein> no one there?
[02:36] <ChrisDruif> Might be a better idea :)
[02:37] <des_> well when i try to install game it ask me to mount cdrom
[02:37] <holstein> you have it mounted?
[02:37] <des_> and last time i checked it was /media/cdrom ?
[02:37] <ChrisDruif> des_: Did you try #playonlinux <= channel?
[02:37] <holstein> might have to check again ;)
[02:37] <des_> in termilnal
[02:38] <des_> ChrisDruif:  ty for channel i will try
[02:38] <holstein> /dev/cdrom ?
[02:39] <ChrisDruif> Thank holstein des_ :)
[02:39] <holstein> from http://www.linuxconfig.org/HowTo_mount_cdrom_in_linux
[02:39] <holstein> Probably there is already mount point on you system. Usually it is /cdrom, /media/cdrom, /media/cdrom0 or /mnt/cdrom . If this not your case create a new mount point now.
[02:40] <holstein> ChrisDruif: :)
[02:40] <ChrisDruif> :D
[02:40] <des_> holstein:  i am noob at this 4 months with linux now
[02:40] <des_> so i would not begin to know how to do that
[02:40] <holstein> des_: welcome
[02:40] <des_> ty :)
[02:40] <holstein> des_: how to do what?
[02:41] <holstein> i was just suggesting those as other possible mount points
[02:41] <holstein> BUT if that channel is not dead
[02:41] <holstein> i bet they'll know
[02:41] <des_> how would i change my mount point or find which one is needed or being used for this program
[02:42] <des_> im there and no answr yet but i be on for a while
[02:43] <holstein> des_: you could check that link
[02:43] <ChrisDruif> des_: Sometimes people are afk...so respond slow...
[02:44] <aveilleux> des_: Go into Wine Configuration (Applications > WINE > Configure Wine...) and go to the Drives tab. Hit Autodetect... and WINE will re-detect your CD.
[02:46] <des_> i will do that aveilleux  but i am using playonlinux program
[02:46] <des_> is that the same thing
[02:46] <aveilleux> des_: I'm aware. PlayOnLinux uses the same config files that WINE does.
[02:46] <des_> ok i was just asking
[02:47] <ChrisDruif> PlayOnLinux is a graphical layer for WINE :P
[02:47] <aveilleux> ChrisDruif: PlayOnLinux is a graphical front-end to WINE; winecfg is another.
[02:48] <ChrisDruif> Indeed...winecfg is default GUI?
[02:49] <aveilleux> ChrisDruif: Yes.
[02:50] <ChrisDruif> But too some is POL easier...I might try it some day...
[02:57] <des_> aveilleux:  i just auto detected and that program still says it cant find drive
[02:57] <aveilleux> des_: I don't know the intricacies of POL, so I don't know a lot about how it operates. That should have worked, but POL may be using a different version of WINE for the program you're trying to install.
[03:06] <seidos> hi all.  after upgrading from 9.10 -> 10.04 when i open evince, then try to open pdf's from a command line, it doesn't open the pdf documents using the existing evince process
[03:07] <seidos> ideas?
[03:07] <ChrisDruif> Yes, I know what is happening, not how to fix it I'm afraid :)
[03:07] <seidos> wow, that's interesting that you heard about it
[03:08] <seidos> hmmm, it's an interesting problem, but it's very mysterious how it works.
[03:08] <ChrisDruif> When you open something through terminal, it starts in the process of the terminal...unless you put an & at the end :)
[03:08] <ChrisDruif> Or it's starts a separate process nonetheless...not quite sure :)
[03:08] <seidos> ah, i'll use the & then
[03:09] <ChrisDruif> So you don't need to start evince separately...
[03:09] <seidos> that sounds like it will suit my purposes...it was before that i could run evince from alt-f2, then just type evince filename, and it would open the document using the existing process
[03:09] <seidos> all right, i'll use &
[03:09] <seidos> that'll work until i have an idea
[03:09] <seidos> thanks ChrisDruif
[03:10] <ChrisDruif> You can open a pdf like this: evince /path/to/file.pdf
[03:10] <ChrisDruif> And ofx an &
[03:10] <ChrisDruif> So: evince /path/to/file.pdf &
[03:10] <seidos> yeah, that worked.  cool
[03:10] <ChrisDruif> Glad to be of help :)
[03:20] <shawn146> how come sudo tar -xvvf /home/ubuntu/Desktop/icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 doesn't work/
[03:23] <hakimsheriff> is your username "ubuntu"?
[03:25] <hakimsheriff> shawn146: ^^
[03:25] <shawn146> no
[03:26] <hakimsheriff> where it says ubuntu, replace it with your username
[03:26] <shawn146> huh
[03:26] <akshatj> hakimsheriff: h might be using the Live CD
[03:26] <holstein>  /home/YOU/....
[03:26] <akshatj> s/h/he
[03:27] <hakimsheriff> yes he might i forgot about that
[03:27] <holstein> true...
[03:27] <shawn146> my screen name is shawn146
[03:27] <shawn146> it always has
[03:27] <shawn146> i always use /nick
[03:28] <IAmNotThatGuy> shawn146, are you using Live USB ?
[03:28] <hakimsheriff> or lice cd
[03:28] <shawn146> not atm
[03:28] <shawn146> i am using vmware player
[03:28] <shawn146> on the other user
[03:28] <wolffu> If it is a bz2 file wouldn't you need the -j option?
[03:28] <shawn> this user]
[03:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> shawn, you sure the file exists in the VM desktop ?
[03:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> and you did -xvcf right?
[03:29] <shawn> oh i ddi xvvf]
[03:29] <shawn> let me try taht
[03:30] <akshatj> shawn: running it with sudo puts it into root folder instead of home
[03:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> err zxvf*
[03:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> shawn, ^
[03:30] <shawn146> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[03:30] <shawn146> oh
[03:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> sowwie just now got up from beds and a bit confused lol
[03:31] <shawn> wow
[03:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> shawn, done?
[03:31] <shawn> apparently copying between my host and guest os is allowed
[03:31] <shawn> thats interesting
[03:31] <shawn> not yet
[03:37] <thewrath> hey all!
[03:38] <Zorin> I have created a live USB with version 10.10 and when I updated the system it seems to have messed up a few things.  It seems that the kernel update might have been one of the problems.  Could someone help me?
[03:44] <nit-wit> Zorin, a usb is a fresh install correct?
[03:45] <nit-wit> shawn what is the host and guest
[03:45] <Zorin> nit, yes
[03:46] <nit-wit> Zorin, so whats going on maybe a little more info
[03:47] <Zorin> I created a usb thumb drive with 10.10.  After the install, I booted the usb thumb drive and did an update where it downloaded a bunch of packages
[03:48] <shawn> you don't know what a guest OS is and a host OS?
[03:48] <nit-wit> Zorin, did you use the Ubuntu thumb loader with persistence?
[03:48] <Zorin> I rebooted after it was done with the update.  After login back in it seems that the package manager is messed up and any time I try to install something I get an error
[03:48] <Zorin> Yes, 4 gig persistence size
[03:49] <nit-wit> shawn, I just wanted to know which os was runing each one
[03:49] <nit-wit> Zorin, you don't update the kernel
[03:49] <Zorin> from what I have been reading might be a problem updating the kernel because of a write issue with casper
[03:49] <shawn> oh
[03:49] <shawn> ubuntu 10.10 as guest
[03:49] <shawn> windows 7 64-bit on host
[03:49] <nit-wit> Zorin, how big is the thumb
[03:50] <shawn> and ubuntu is 64-bit also
[03:50] <Zorin> nit, is there a way to prevent updating the kernel and grub?  8 gig thumb drive
[03:50] <nit-wit> shawn, you just need a share file and use W7 to link to it
[03:51] <nit-wit> shawn, a share in Ubuntu
[03:51] <shawn> i know
[03:51] <shawn> ic an do instant share
[03:52] <nit-wit> Zorin, yes tick it off in the update manager, you can probably lock the install kernel in synaptic not sure there though. With a 8 gig thumb I would do  full install, just make sure grub the Ubuntu bootloader gores to the thumbs MBR
[03:54] <Zorin> I did an install to the usb thumb drive but it is way to slow, faster as a live usb device or what ever you want to call it
[03:54] <Zorin> the one thing that I don't like with the live usb is that you can't delete the "install *" icon on the desktop
[03:55] <Zorin> if you deleted it and log back in it shows up
[03:56] <nit-wit> Zorin, so why do hyou want to run it this way
[03:56] <nit-wit> *you
[03:57] <Zorin> I like to play around with it and don't want a dual boot
[03:58] <Zorin> one other thing after the update, I can not browse my window shares
[03:58] <nit-wit> Zorin, okay, that is fine. The casper-rw file can't be cleaned out sooner or later it will fill up. The full install is to slow, where do we go from here?
[03:59] <Zorin> rm -fr /
[03:59] <Zorin> hahaha
[03:59] <nit-wit> Zorin if you think so
[03:59] <shawn> hmm
[03:59] <shawn> i am stuuck
[04:00] <Zorin> I just like to play around with it
[04:00] <shawn> zxvf doesm't work
[04:00] <Zorin> mostly use it for bittorrent stuff
[04:00] <nit-wit> shawn, is that the link letters from the W7
[04:01] <shawn> no
[04:01] <shawn> i was using it as sudo tar -zxvf
[04:01] <shawn> while in the folder i wanted toe xtract
[04:03] <Zorin> what is W7?
[04:05] <shawn> windows 7
[04:05] <Zorin> ok
[04:06] <Zorin> so what are you trying to tar zxvf ?  must be a zip tar file
[04:07] <shawn> no
[04:08] <shawn> .tar.bz2
[04:08] <Zorin> bzip2 you need to use the j not z tar xvfj
[04:09] <shawn> oh
[04:09] <Zorin> I know command line stuff, don't know all the gui stuff, never been into x-windows
[04:10] <shawn> still didn't work
[04:10] <Zorin> what is the error message?
[04:18] <simplesimon> I have a ton of questions! Would it be exceedingly annoying if I queried a lot?
[04:19] <simplesimon> Sorry, am just a simple simon and just learning.
[04:19] <holstein> go for it
[04:19] <holstein> !aks
[04:19] <ubot2> Factoid 'aks' not found
[04:19] <holstein> !ask
[04:19] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[04:23] <simplesimon> Cool, thanks! Am curious how I can run a linux OS and still run a windows OS at the same time. I read that it can be done. Additionally, I was reading that Linux offers a Graphical Interface. How can I obtain this am wanting to explore and experiement some. Have some rudimentary skills and am looking to enhance my knowledge.
[04:25] <JackyAlcine> simplesimon: it's called dual-booting.
[04:26] <JackyAlcine> simplesimon: well, your description sounds more like virtualization, running a guest and host OS.
[04:26] <JackyAlcine> you can use VirtualBox or KVM for that.
[04:26] <JackyAlcine> but dual-booting's another task.
[04:26] <JackyAlcine> Answers your question?
[04:32] <simplesimon> Yes, that helps quite a bit. I know how to set up a dual-boot configuration. Which is going to be easier for learning and experimenting with. Am quite a novice not looking to crack things but want to start learning how to develop. VirtualBox of KVM are those going to simplify that process?
[04:36] <simplesimon> Sorry if am delayed in responding am researching virtualbox and kvm at the moment as well.
[04:37] <holstein> i think virtualbox is a great starting point
[04:37] <holstein> and a handy tool for other purposes
[04:37] <holstein> testing or whatever
[04:37] <holstein> not a waste of time learning about VM or vitrual box
[04:40] <Cheri703> vmware player is very good as well
[04:40] <Cheri703> I prefer it wholly over virtualbox
[04:53] <simplesimon> Am curious, which programming language should I start learning first? And where should I go to learn them. I have played with HTML and CSS some for basic website building in Notepad, but am far from proficient, any help there?
[04:56] <simplesimon> Was reading that Python was a good starting point some said Java - just wanted to actually get some real advice not just web reading. Perhaps a few places to go so I can delve into this jungle.
[04:56] <JackyAlcine> Python's perfecting for immediate work.
[04:56] <JackyAlcine> But I personally recommend learning C++.
[04:57] <JoeMaverickSett> simplesimon: i'd say if you've played with HTML/CSS, why not develop it to a more professional level? then start off with python, C/C++ or Java. :)
[04:58] <simplesimon> Start out with the C++ any ideas where I can go to do that (college right! haha jk) that will walk me through it a bit etc.?
[04:58] <JoeMaverickSett> simplesimon: try here; http://cprogramming.com/
[04:59] <simplesimon> I agree joe am trying to do that - I just found this place about 1hr ago... didnt even know there was a place I could go and ask people for help... is hard doing it alone but I find it fun is a mental challenge and i like that
[04:59] <simplesimon> sweet joe
[05:01] <JackyAlcine> Hey JoeMaverickSett
[05:01] <JoeMaverickSett> hey, JackyAlcine :)
[05:02] <simplesimon> I got hooked when I was playing around with HTML and CSS ya know built my first website from scratch - it was awesome I got addicted.
[05:03] <simplesimon> i mean that was using notepad and then i found notepad pe that was cool it helped a ton
[05:03] <JackyAlcine> Same way I got started, simplesimon :D
[05:05] <simplesimon> That is awesome, JackyAlcine, then you know exactly what am talking about. I mean that whole feeling of holy wow! I just did that? I mean -- notepad really who knew? I mean that was the greatest feeling ever... oh ya the website was lame and had a header and footer and body with a few sentences it was basic and cheesy but i was like omg i did that
[05:06] <JackyAlcine> Have you played with jQuery (http://www.jquery.com)?
[05:06] <JackyAlcine> Visit http://www.csstricks.com
[05:06] <simplesimon> N I have now
[05:06] <simplesimon> no i have not sorry typos
[05:11] <simplesimon> Well that will make for a lot of fun... drag and drop functions and special effects will be fun to tinker with
[05:11] <JackyAlcine> Yup :D
[05:12] <stlsaint> exit
[05:12] <stlsaint> opps
[05:12] <stlsaint> night folks
[05:13] <simplesimon> I really appreciate the time (everyone that is helping me out) a lot of people forget what it is like to be in my shoes starting out and needing a place to go to get ideas and info
[05:13] <simplesimon> Was going to say a 4.0 high school drop out that got bored and likes to challenge himself but well.. is true
[05:17] <simplesimon> well i have some study to do will chat later - ty everyone
[05:25] <theamazingbeat> Hi can anyone here help me with a ssh key issue I am having?
[05:26] <geekosopher> !question | theamazingbeat
[05:26] <ubot2> theamazingbeat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[05:39] <MrAnthrope> That was weird.
[05:40] <geekosopher> MrAnthrope: what?
[05:40] <MrAnthrope> you guys didn't see that? I was ghosting myself and then I would sign back on.
[05:41]  * Cheri703 has join/part messages hidden
[05:41]  * geekosopher too
[05:41] <MrAnthrope> I came home and xchat was closed. and the last message was that someone else identified as me.
[05:41] <MrAnthrope> I opened xchat again and saw myself on so I ghosted myself. And it worked. Then I signed back on lol.
[05:41] <MrAnthrope> And ghosted myself again.
[05:42] <geekosopher> hmmm... so we have a real ghost here ;)
[05:43] <MrAnthrope> lol
[05:44] <nit-wit> MrAnthrope, are you registered
[05:44] <MrAnthrope> Yeah.
[05:44] <JoeMaverickSett> MrAnthrope: better put enforce on your nick so that other people cannot user your nick.
[05:44] <nit-wit> ohhh scary
[05:44] <JoeMaverickSett> use /msg nickserv help set enforce for more info. :)
[05:45] <MrAnthrope> Well the last message I got was that "someone else" had identified my nick ... from my own IP address.
[05:45] <MrAnthrope> I think xchat got closed somehow and tried reconnecting or something.
[05:47]  * geekosopher thinks he should send this plot to RGV
[05:47] <geekosopher> :D
[05:47] <akshatj> geekosopher: do you want another flop?
[05:47] <akshatj> :D
[05:48] <geekosopher> lol
[05:48] <geekosopher> those who didn't get it RGV (Ram Gopal Verma) makes ghost movies in India :)
[05:49] <akshatj> s/ghost/flop
[05:50] <MrAnthrope> lol
[05:55] <MrAnthrope> So anyway. Umm when I run games in wine they used to take up a lot less system resources when minimized... and I upgraded wine and now they seem to take the same amount.
[05:55] <MrAnthrope> I'm running on an old computer and I can't open chrome and a game at the same time... unless the game is minimized.
[05:55] <MrAnthrope> I vaguely remember something about setting a registry key for this? maybe not?
[05:59] <MrAnthrope> I would ask in #WineHQ but last time I went there I got yelled at for asking newb questions.
[06:07] <MrAnthrope> offscreen render mode?
[06:08] <JackyAlcine> Probably, MrAnthrope.
[06:21] <robbmunson> 'lo team!
[06:22] <paultag> heyya robbmunson
[06:22] <robbmunson> Rolling zombie returns....for now.....
[06:22] <paultag> robbmunson: How's the family?
[06:22] <robbmunson> the girlfriend and kids?
[06:24] <paultag> robbmunson: I thought you got married for some reason
[06:24] <paultag> robbmunson: yeah, how's the girl and the kids?
[06:24] <robbmunson> bolted for the door christmas eve.....
[06:24] <paultag> :|
[06:24] <robbmunson> haven't seen or heard from them since.....*shrugs*
[06:25] <robbmunson> merry freakin christmas amiright? lmao....im not hurt....it's whatever man..
[06:25] <paultag> robbmunson: fyck that dude, that sucks ass
[06:28] <akshatj> my exams are postponed!
[06:28] <akshatj> yay!
[06:29] <robbmunson> yay =)
[06:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> hey robbmunson
[06:29]  * robbmunson waves
[06:30] <robbmunson> im not staying long I don't think.....
[06:30] <akshatj> though I still have not heard from my school about what decision they have about this
[06:30]  * IAmNotThatGuy hugs robbmunson 
[06:32] <robbmunson> :)
[06:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> robbmunson, you can identify me? :P
[06:32] <akshatj> IAmNotThatGuy: anyone can
[06:33] <robbmunson> You're....the devil! ;)
[06:33] <akshatj> because YouAreNotThatGuy
[06:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> robbmunson, :P
[06:34] <robbmunson> I think I just scared the hell out of paultag :/
[06:35] <MrAnthrope> so I can set offscreen rendering to backbuffer.... what is backbuffer?
[06:36] <MrAnthrope> and some things on google are saying backbuffer is default and some are saying pbuffer is default ...
[06:36] <robbmunson> MrAnthrope: secondary frame buffer....
[06:36] <JackyAlcine> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/new-smooth-intelligent-plymouth-boot-screen-for-ubuntu/
[06:37] <MrAnthrope> For the record I loved the brown theme and I despise the purple plymouth theme.
[06:39] <IAmNotThatGuy> robbmunson, its nearly 2 AM there. he went to sleep
[06:39] <robbmunson> ......he was _just_ talking.....
[06:40] <MrAnthrope> The first thing I thought when I was installing Ubuntu was "I'm changing that fugly purple nonsense!"
[06:40] <robbmunson> MrAnthrope: Beauty of Linux...change it all! =)
[06:41] <MrAnthrope> Luckily I knew it was customizable. Feel sorry for people who barfed after they installed it and then went back to windows.
[06:42]  * robbmunson wishes I could sleep.....
[06:43] <shawn> vulcans sleep naked?
[06:43] <shawn> oops
[06:43] <shawn> wrong chat
[06:43] <shawn> o.o
[06:43] <shawn> crap
[06:43] <shawn> >.<
[06:44] <robbmunson> shawn, leave the stinking up of the room to the professionals my friend! lol
[06:45] <MrAnthrope> Is there a non-purple boot splash?
[06:45] <MrAnthrope> (I have an NVidia card and the purple ones seem to look HORRID)
[06:45] <MrAnthrope> There is some issue with nvidia and the boot splash.
[06:45] <shawn> wut?
[06:45] <shawn> robbmunson what do you mean?
[06:46] <JackyAlcine> Yeah, MrAnthrope.
[06:46] <JackyAlcine> There's dozens of plymouth themes out there.
[06:46] <robbmunson> shawn: You said "crap"...was just making a witty reply to it....
[06:46] <robbmunson> Ok, one thing that ticks me off that I (surprisingly) have yet to figure out.....
[06:47] <shawn> mah friends in a star trek channel over on justin.tv are joking around
[06:47] <robbmunson> .....login window.....HOW?!
[06:47] <shawn> about voyager series
[06:49] <MrAnthrope> ...restarting.
[06:52] <JackyAlcine> Yo, does anyone know how to tweak the GDM screen?
[06:53] <JackyAlcine> Like I know it's defined in some glade files.
[06:53] <JackyAlcine> Hey des_
[06:54] <des_> hi JackyAlcine
[06:54] <des_> this program playonlinux wont detect my cdrom so i can play a game
[06:55] <JackyAlcine> Try ripping the disc to an ISO, and then mounting that.
[06:55] <JoeMaverickSett> JackyAlcine: perhaps Ubuntu Tweak?
[06:55] <JoeMaverickSett> JackyAlcine: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/ubuntu-tweak-054-released-with-login.html
[06:55] <JackyAlcine> No, like back before how you could customize it in Hardy and stuff.
[06:55] <des_> playonlinux doesent use cd
[06:55] <des_> just mounts iso
[06:55] <JackyAlcine> I've installed Halo using a disc, (/dev/cdrom)
[06:57] <des_> there is no disc it just plays the iso like it was in drive
[06:57] <des_> am i saying this right
[06:57] <des_> im still noob
[06:58] <JackyAlcine> We are all, in some aspect of computers ;)
[06:58] <JackyAlcine> Have you tried closing PlayOnLinux altogether?
[06:58] <JackyAlcine> and restarting it?
[06:58] <des_> but it keeps sayingyes
[06:58] <des_> i was doing this earlier but took a much needed break
[06:59] <des_> just says error unable to find cdrom
[07:00] <des_> how would i be able to find my cdrom and what my cpu named it
[07:00] <des_> would it be /media/cdrom right ?
[07:01] <JackyAlcine> that or /dev/cdrom.
[07:01] <JackyAlcine> Can't remember off of the top of my head.
[07:09] <MrAnthrope> This is what my current splash boot screen looks like http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/z-oij_fYjRhfQ1tZTHRB4r4nKPHJZ0b_lu_28BuXo-8?feat=directlink
[07:44] <theamazingbeat> Hi I am mapping a drive and following a guide of the ubuntu site, anyway I am editing my FSTAB file and it is telling me to put in this line: //<SERVERNAME>/<REMOTEPATH> /<LOCALMOUNTPOINT>/<LOCALPATH> cifs credentials=/home/<LOCALUSERNAME>/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[07:44] <theamazingbeat> what should I put in LOCALMOUNTPOINT and LOCALPATH
[07:47] <theamazingbeat> or is this the wrong channel for this sort of thing
[07:53] <nit-wit> theamazingbeat, not really beginners stuff try #ubuntu
[07:53] <theamazingbeat> okay
[07:53] <JackyAlcine> I finally swapped OpenOffice for LibreOffice.
[07:54] <nit-wit> JackyAlcine, I did on a linuxmint set up not to shabby.
[07:55] <JackyAlcine> It feels cleaner than OpenOffice..
[07:57] <nit-wit> JackyAlcine, It looks nice, I will have to try it out a little bit.
[09:53] <hdeshev> Hello
[11:16] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[12:09] <MagoMarkos> hi
[12:10] <MagoMarkos> i need some help with the instaletion of ubuntu netbook on my acer aspire one 532h-2825
[12:10] <MagoMarkos> I have windows 7 staarter on my pc and im booting from my flashdrive into ubuntu
[12:11] <Silver_Fox_> Where do you require  help MagoMarkos  ?
[12:11] <MagoMarkos> then when i go to instal and instal along another os i dont know what to do because it will get me until the part that says the user info and on the bottom it displays ready when you are but nothing else happens and the forward botton on that page just wont allow me to click it
[12:38] <MagoMarkos> I need help now I'm on the advanced partitioning tool i need help formating. I have a 160 Gb HDD partitioned as such: 12.9 GB sda1 (ntfs) (for recovery console from acer), 106.9MB (ntfs) (for some windows7 stuff), 105.1 GB sda3 (ntfs) (Windows7 Starter OS and Windows Files), and 41.9 GB Free Space. If I click Install now it gives me the error "No Root File System" "No root files
[12:38] <MagoMarkos> system is defined. Please Correct this from the partitioning menu" and i am not able to keep going what can i do? How can I and should Iformat the free space to continue?
[12:38] <MagoMarkos> sorry for the Bold that symbol was a typo
[12:49] <ChrisDruif> Silver_Fox_: Normally the Ubuntu Partitioner installs 2 partitions, one root(/) and swap right?
[12:50] <ChrisDruif> MagoMarkos: If I read it correctly, there are 4 partitions?
[12:50] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[12:51] <ChrisDruif> Hai ShootEmUp :)
[12:51] <ShootEmUp> whats going on in this channel?
[12:52] <ChrisDruif> Helping someone with UNE installation...
[12:52] <ShootEmUp> UNE? I think you mean UNR
[12:52] <ChrisDruif> Wasn't that the old name?
[12:53] <ShootEmUp> Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[12:53] <ShootEmUp> right>
[12:53] <ShootEmUp> ?
[12:53] <ChrisDruif> Ubuntu Netbook Edition afaik :P
[12:53] <ShootEmUp> ahh, they changed it
[12:53] <ChrisDruif> http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[12:53] <ChrisDruif> :P
[12:53] <ShootEmUp> my bad then
[12:54] <ChrisDruif> It's alright...
[12:54] <ShootEmUp> :)
[12:54] <ChrisDruif> MagoMarkos: Are you still here?
[12:55] <MagoMarkos> im in the ubuntu channel but im stuck now
[12:55] <MagoMarkos> I filled the who are you page completley the compuer finished copying files and now it says Ready when you are... and the forward button is grey... what do i do now?
[12:55] <MagoMarkos> can someone help me here?
[12:56] <ChrisDruif> Did you also had the option to fill in the computer's name? When 10.10 desktop was in beta I could and my button still kept grey like yours...
[12:57] <ChrisDruif> couldn't*
[12:57] <ShootEmUp> some fields will not allow spaces or capatal leters
[12:58] <ChrisDruif> I think you can click next if you do ShootEmUp
[13:00] <ChrisDruif> An other issue what my be going on is the following: a hdd only allowed 4 physical partitions...when you use the largest available free space, it create 2 partition (one root ("/") and one swap) and seeing you had 3 partition before you started, that might be the problem MagoMarkos :)
[13:03] <MagoMarkos> nope actualy was the username i was using
[13:03] <MagoMarkos> Mago Markos and iu cant use spaces or caps lol
[13:03] <ShootEmUp> It's okay, I did that the first time too
[13:03] <MagoMarkos> lol thanks
[13:04] <ChrisDruif> Alright :)
[13:04] <ChrisDruif> ShootEmUp: That the installer doesn't check on that =-O
[13:05]  * ShootEmUp starts right to his congresman to change it
[13:09] <ChrisDruif> I think it DOES check for it (otherwise MagoMarkos could continue installing ;)) but it might not be clear enough that it's wrong, ShootEmUp?
[13:10] <ShootEmUp> It would be nice if it had an error mesage
[13:12] <ShootEmUp> "Username has spaces, please remove"
[13:17] <ChrisDruif> I think it shows a really small red x or something like that...would be more logical if the name changes to red when an error (space or capital) occurs in the username?
[13:17] <ShootEmUp> that.... would work
[13:21] <ShootEmUp> ChrisDruif, where is the installer at now?
[13:21] <ShootEmUp> progress wise
[13:22] <ChrisDruif> ShootEmUp: I'm not installing atm :P MagoMarkos was :)
[13:22] <ChrisDruif> But I'll download the UNE and install it on VirtualBox :)
[13:22] <ShootEmUp> thats who I ment
[13:23] <ShootEmUp> really? for me? :)
[13:23] <ChrisDruif> Sure...I wanna try the Unity before I would be forced to use it with 11.04 <_<"
[13:24] <ShootEmUp> you still will be able to use gnome
[13:24] <ShootEmUp> I might just do that
[13:24] <MagoMarkos> thanks for all the help got it up and running
[13:25] <ChrisDruif> There isn't even a torrent for UNE? If it is, than it's not properly promoted...
[13:26] <ShootEmUp> I don't think so
[13:26] <ChrisDruif> 10 mins till it's in...
[13:36] <ChrisDruif> T-minus 50 s
[13:36] <ChrisDruif> :P
[13:36] <hobgoblin> never start a countdown - they always win
[13:37] <ChrisDruif> And it's in :D
[13:39] <ChrisDruif> Bootloader only uses 4 dots? Instead of 5? :P
[13:42] <ChrisDruif> Alright, I've made the error on purpose ShootEmUp :)
[13:43] <ShootEmUp> and what happend?
[13:44] <ChrisDruif> Until you press space it is a green checkmark, after that the checkmark is replace by some red text "May only contain letters, digits, hyphens, and dots"
[13:44] <ChrisDruif> As you see the last comma is also out of place ;)
[13:45] <ChrisDruif> Ow...was computername....so capital is allowed there?
[13:46] <ChrisDruif> Apparently is a capital allowed with the computer name...
[13:46] <ChrisDruif> However, with the USERname...meh...not good :P
[13:47] <ChrisDruif> When I've added a capital it only removes the green checkmark...
[13:47] <ChrisDruif> Same with adding a space...
[13:47] <ChrisDruif> Not very obvious or clear....
[13:47] <ShootEmUp> it should give a mesage
[13:48] <ShootEmUp> message*
[13:49] <ChrisDruif> Or like I said, change the font to red or something....a missing checkmark isn't very obvious <_<"
[13:49] <ShootEmUp> yup
[13:50] <ChrisDruif> With password it say with a big red text it is a weak password....but a wrong username only removes the checkmark....
[13:51] <ChrisDruif> Orange when it's a fair password...prolly green when strong...
[13:51] <ChrisDruif> So how are we going to get this fixed/changed for natty? Make bug or are you higher up somewhere?
[13:52] <ChrisDruif> For consistence, it should a red text behind the box...other fields do it the same...
[13:52] <hobgoblin> there's probably already a bug - if not make on in launchpad
[13:53] <ShootEmUp> not really a bug
[13:53] <ChrisDruif> Bugs can also be feature requests ShootEmUp :)
[13:53] <ShootEmUp> true
[13:55] <hobgoblin> https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts possibly
[13:55] <ChrisDruif> I always find it troublesome to find a compatible bug on launchpad <_>
[14:08] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/549195
[14:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 549195 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Ubiquity should give visual feedback that username cannot contains capital letter(s) (affects: 11) (dups: 4) (heat: 78)" [Medium,Triaged]
[14:09] <ChrisDruif> Thanks hobgoblin :)
[14:09] <hobgoblin> to search in launchpad you have to feel extremely lucky ...
[14:09] <hobgoblin> it should be a papercut lol
[14:28] <ChrisDruif> ShootEmUp: hobgoblin: I can't even boot to unity on VirtualBox? What's with that?
[14:28] <ShootEmUp> idk
[14:29] <ChrisDruif> Something about missing driver required for unity :S
[14:29] <hobgoblin> aaah - the new unity do you mean?
[14:29] <ChrisDruif> From UNE 10.10
[14:32] <ChrisDruif> Not unity from desktop natty :)
[14:32] <hobgoblin> it'll be a 3d issue I expect - try a search for the exact error
[14:33] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: what you might need to do is install and then install guest additions then try the unity thing
[14:33] <ChrisDruif> Guest additions?
[14:33] <hobgoblin> yep - in the actual vbox menu's once you;ve booted
[14:33] <ChrisDruif> I've set 3d acceleration on?
[14:34] <hobgoblin> it mounts a 'cd' then you install guest additions
[14:34] <hobgoblin> yea - you need guest additions as well I am sure
[14:35] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6218568&postcount=8
[14:45] <ChrisDruif> I'll read it later hobgoblin, thanks :)
[14:45] <ChrisDruif> But I've got to go :)
[14:45] <ChrisDruif> Bye :)
[17:15] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[17:15] <kristian-aalborg> anyone tried Wayland?
[17:50] <MournsForTrees> Hello. A question: in the character map program a lot of scripts are displayed at the left panel, like egyptian hieroglyphs, but many of those appear only as squares with numbers. Is that because the font doesn't have them or am I missing some package or something?
[19:03] <faina> Hi, for some reason empathy is no longer in the indicator-applet and is instead showing up as a seperate icon in the, system tray. I tried removing & reinstall bothy empathy & indicator-applet but that didn't work.
[20:15] <harrisonk> is it posible to put linux on a nintendo DS?
[20:15] <pleia2> there used to be a dslinux project, but the project website has been down for months
[20:16] <pleia2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSLinux
[20:35] <phillw> pleia2: I read what they have just done to the PS3 ... I'm still laughing at these corporations who STILL believe in DRM :D  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12116051
[20:36] <pleia2> it does confuse me as to why they keep trying
[21:41] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[22:33] <Midnightryder2> I see that I have to zoom in on a webpage to enlarge it enough for me to read it, but at times when I come back to a webpage that I have enlarged, it has downsized again. Is ther anything I can do to prevent the resizing?
[22:34] <Midnightryder2> I am using Ubuntu 10.10.
[22:36] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: The zoom preferences are handled by the browser. You using Firefox?
[22:38] <Midnightryder2> Yes I am using Firefox the default web browser. I know how to adjust the zoom inside the browser and using keyboard, but it does not always stay the size I want.
[22:39] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: I don't use Firefox, so I don't know for sure, but Firefox 3.x should remember page zoom. Let me see what I can dig up.
[22:39] <Midnightryder2> Sometimes the site is downsized again when I come back to it.
[22:40] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Yes, I gathered.
[22:41] <Midnightryder2> Firefox 3.6.13
[22:41] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: You can try the NoSquint plugin, which overrides the zoom settings: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2592/
[22:43] <Midnightryder2> Ok I will try that. Thank you.
[22:44] <Midnightryder2> I will let you know something in a few minutes.
[22:52] <Midnightryder2> I revisited the websites & they are all the same size that I wanted them to be. I have not installed NoSquint yet. I will keep it listed just in case.
[22:53] <Midnightryder2> Could it have anything to do with running Ubuntu inside Windows XP?
[22:55] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: As in... Virtualbox? No.
[22:58] <Midnightryder2> Is that what it is? I did not know. I am in between a beginner and a novice with windows and definitely a beginner on Ubuntu.
[22:59] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Well are you using Wubi?
[23:00] <Midnightryder2> Yes I do recall that is what the installation used.
[23:00] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: What I'm really asking is for you to define the phrase "running Ubuntu inside XP"
[23:04] <Midnightryder2> My desktop uses Windows XP. I downloaded and burned a CD, the I put it in the computer and I had 3 choices. 1. I could use it to just look around. 2. I could install it inside of Windows or 3. I could wipe my hardrive clean and install only Ubuntu. I chose 2.
[23:04] <aveilleux> Ugh, Wubi.
[23:05] <Midnightryder2> Yea. Bad idea?
[23:05] <Daniel0108> not really good :)
[23:05] <Daniel0108> Ubuntu is much better when installed normally :)
[23:06] <Midnightryder2> I have to get used to it before I can install it normally.
[23:06] <Daniel0108> okay
[23:06] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: The LiveCD can install in parallel. Dual-boot.
[23:06] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Wubi kinda fudges it.
[23:07] <Daniel0108> but you know you can also install it normally with dual boot ;)
[23:07] <Daniel0108> yeah :)
[23:08] <Red-Raven> hey. so today in school i was called a nerd for having this background: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://awesomewallpapers.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/ubuntu-black-1440x900.jpg&imgrefurl=http://awesomewallpapers.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/ubuntu-wallpaper-set-4/ubuntu-black-1440x900/&usg=__WMqU1-xHjgwTos9BbH1HAUtjk-w=&h=900&w=1440&sz=324&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=SYOayw17O1jkaM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=169&prev=/images%3F
[23:08] <Red-Raven> q%3Dubuntu%2Bblack%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dubuntu%26channel%3Dfs%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D543%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=641&vpy=115&dur=82&hovh=177&hovw=284&tx=126&ty=63&ei=70omTY--KsPflgf-iN3VCw&oei=70omTY--KsPflgf-iN3VCw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0 on windows 7. the guy was like wow your such a nerd. ubuntu background on windows 7? and im like yes. and that makes you just as much of a nerd fo
[23:08] <Red-Raven> r knowing and putting two and two together.
[23:08] <Midnightryder2> I turn on the computer and it lets me decide XP or Ubuntu. Then I press enter.
[23:08] <aveilleux> ....
[23:08] <aveilleux> Red-raven, it's called tinyurl
[23:08] <Red-Raven> wow sry didnt think that link would be so big.
[23:08] <Red-Raven> wtf....
[23:09] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Yes but that's not a true dual-boot. Wubi uses the currently-partitioned space in Windows and allocates a "fake drive" for Ubuntu. It's not the same.
[23:09] <Daniel0108> yep, it's like virtual box
[23:09] <Daniel0108> virtual box also creates virtual drives :)
[23:09] <Midnightryder2> Ok. I know that I have to go into windows to uninstall it.
[23:09] <Daniel0108> you should try dual boot :)
[23:11] <Midnightryder2> Where can I find instructions for that. I may or may not know all the terminology but I will try.
[23:11] <Daniel0108> Midnightryder2: You have to download and burn the iso
[23:11] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Boot into the LiveCD, and run the installation. It'll walk you through it.
[23:11] <shawn156> hello how is everyone today
[23:11] <Daniel0108> yeah :)
[23:11] <shawn156> hi there Daniel0108
[23:11] <Daniel0108> there are 3 selections
[23:11] <Midnightryder2> iso?
[23:11] <Daniel0108> .iso file :P
[23:11] <Daniel0108> hi shawn156 ;)
[23:12] <Daniel0108> and one of them is to make a partition and install ubuntu beside windows :P
[23:13] <Midnightryder2> You mean a partitioned P drive seperate from C drive?
[23:13] <Daniel0108> ummm
[23:13] <Daniel0108> xD
[23:13] <Daniel0108> not really ;)
[23:14] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Ubuntu uses a completely different mounting system than Windows.
[23:14] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Your Ubuntu partition will not be visible from Windows.
[23:14] <Daniel0108> yeah ;) look http://tinyurl.com/2wxz6mf
[23:14] <Daniel0108> you have to selecte side by side installation (dual boot) ;)
[23:15] <Midnightryder2> Not even in defragging?
[23:15] <Midnightryder2> ok
[23:15] <Red-Raven> oh cool you're going to dual-boot? its amazing. best way to go.
[23:16] <Red-Raven> i hate awkward silences.
[23:16] <Daniel0108> Red-Raven: I have only Ubuntu ;) I try to emulate everything with WINE, if I don't get something to work, I use virtual box :P
[23:16] <Midnightryder2> So I can boot into Live CD and it won't wipe hardrive clean?
[23:16] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: The partition will be visible, but since Windows can't read the ext4 file system (the one Ubuntu uses), it can't defragment, read, or what have you
[23:16] <ChrisDruif> Midnightryder2: Yes :)
[23:17] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: Booting into the LiveCD will leave your system completely untouched. That's the point of the LiveCD.
[23:17] <Midnightryder2> I understand
[23:17] <aveilleux> Midnightryder2: The installation application can install side-by-side.
[23:18] <Red-Raven> Danial10188, no i meant midnightrider2
[23:18] <Midnightryder2> Ok that is what I will do then. Thank you for explaining.
[23:18] <Daniel0108> Red-Raven: I know :P Just wanted to tell my thoughts about dual booting :P
[23:19] <Red-Raven> oh ok lol. its one of the best things i ever did to my rig.
[23:19] <Midnightryder2> My friend works for CyberAngel Security and the installation  of that program will partition C drive into an encrypted P drive.
[23:20] <Cheri703> are there any ubuntu -> windows vnc / remote desktop programs that let you connect a device to the ubuntu computer and use it on the windows side? windows -> windows will let you...I'm not holding my breath, just curious
[23:20] <Cheri703> Red-Raven: I got my dual-boot machine set up so it can be headless, it's SWEET
[23:20] <Red-Raven> cheri703......what?
[23:20] <Red-Raven> brb. dinner.
[23:22] <Midnightryder2> When you say download and burn the iso, do you mean Ubuntu?
[23:22] <Daniel0108> yeah
[23:22] <Daniel0108> we mean ubuntu xD
[23:23] <Midnightryder2> Done that already. that is how I installed it. Thank you.
[23:23] <Daniel0108> so, you brunt the iso and installed it from cd?
[23:23] <Daniel0108> you rebooted and installed from cd? xD
[23:25] <Midnightryder2> I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 to my XP desktop. Then used Infrarecorder to burn image to CD. That is what I used to install Ubuntu.
[23:25] <Daniel0108> okay
[23:25] <Midnightryder2> nonononono I did not reboot to install from CD no i did not do that.
[23:25] <Daniel0108> you just opened the program on the cd?
[23:26] <Daniel0108> called WUBI?
[23:27] <Midnightryder2> I think Wubi is the installer to install inside windows?
[23:27] <Cheri703> Red-Raven: I'll explain when you're back
[23:27] <Daniel0108> yeah that's right ;)
[23:28] <Midnightryder2> Yes it used WUBI.
[23:28] <Daniel0108> okay.. but you should use dual boot ;)
[23:29] <Daniel0108> you insert the cd
[23:29] <Daniel0108> reboot your pc
[23:29] <Daniel0108> then boot from cd
[23:30] <Midnightryder2> Ok well I will uninstall Ubuntu out of windows, reboot, defrag and start over reboot into Live CD.
[23:30] <Daniel0108> and install ubuntu, but select this: http://tinyurl.com/2wxz6mf option ;)
[23:30] <Daniel0108> yeah :P
[23:32] <Midnightryder2> Ok got it. Thanks a million!
[23:33] <Daniel0108> No problem ;)
[23:33] <Daniel0108> I hope you enjoy Ubuntu :D
[23:34] <Midnightryder2> I do already. I was not sure what I was going to do with my old CPU after XP was no longer supported, but now I know.
[23:35] <Daniel0108> okay :)
[23:35] <Midnightryder2> I'm out of here & Thanks again.
[23:43] <Red-Raven> cheri703
[23:43] <Cheri703> yo
[23:44] <Red-Raven> what about you rig being headless?
[23:45] <Cheri703> ok, since I don't know which part got the "what?" headless = able to be used without monitor/keyboard/mouse hooked up. I got my dual boot set up so I can do that, and choose which os to use
[23:46] <Red-Raven> and how do you do that?
[23:47] <Cheri703> a neat little grub command: grub-reboot X  where x is the number that corresponds to position on the grub menu. so for mine, I use grub-reboot 6 (list starts with 0) and then reboot. I made a script. so that way, the next reboot goes into windows. when I shut down windows, it will boot back to ubuntu
[23:53] <Red-Raven> the point being?
[23:54] <Cheri703> so I can do things in either OS remotely
[23:54] <Cheri703> without having to be at the machine
[23:54] <Cheri703> useful when vm will slow netbook down too much
[23:55] <Cheri703> also the point in telling you is that many people don't know it's possible, so just wanted to put it out there, no need to be rude...