[00:30] hi [00:36] hi [00:36] CensoredBiscuit do you have a Jornada 720? [00:37] no sorry shawn146 I dont why? [00:37] oh :( [00:37] i ahve been stuck for days on a problem with getting jlime to work [00:37] i am using generic ahrdware [00:37] Sandisk 512 MB CF [00:37] Jornada 720 [00:38] good hardware [00:45] kernal panic [00:45] not syncing [00:45] (0,0) [00:45] block [00:55] This is my first time in a chat room so please forgive my ignorance and correct me if I am wrong about anything. I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and am looking for an application or program to download subscription paid Mp3 files to a Media Card Device like a BlackBerry Storm2. I can download from Internet & save in My Music files but Rythmbox imports the files. I do not see a way to download to handheld device. Any suggestio [00:55] ns? [00:56] Midnightryder2: you could drag them over tot he media card [00:56] if you can mount it in the computer [00:56] theres a program for the droid called webshare [00:56] lets you drag things over to the SD card over the network [00:57] maybe theres something like that [00:57] OR, maybe you can just plug the phone in USB and sync [00:57] Rythmbox does import my files from BB so I know it recognizes the device. [00:57] http://www.instructables.com/id/Easily-sync-music-and-podcasts-to-your-Blackberry-/ [00:59] I have connected USB but cannot find a way for Rythmbox to export foles to device. [01:01] http://forums.crackberry.com/f86/ubuntu-linux-storm-media-files-tutorial-124651/ [01:02] Midnightryder2: you could google around for some of the other big media players too [01:02] banshee [01:02] amarok [01:02] * holstein drawing a blank... [01:02] tons of them though [01:02] Midnightryder2: with linux, the answer is always yes [01:03] its just, do you really want to [01:03] might be challening [01:03] what you're trying to do should be fine though [01:05] I have looked for other players. I see several that import Mp3 files but none that export to handheld device. I will checkout the websites you suggested. Thank you. [01:05] banshee does [01:05] i dont know about to your handheld device [01:05] IF you can see it like a hard drive [01:06] which is sometimes a setting somewhere [01:06] you can sync whatever you want to it [01:06] OR, if you can mount the card like i suggested earlier [01:06] it'll just be a writeable drive as far as buntu sees it [01:07] not sure what the blackberry is like though [01:07] It would be nice if SongBird was included in the software repository. I tried to follow instructions but terminal manager did not let me enter final command. Thanks again. [01:09] i didnt care for it [01:09] what ver.... [01:09] hmmm [01:23] SongBird's being discontinued on Linux, I hope Midnightryder2 knows that [01:59] hey. anyone know the best partition sizes? [01:59] 0 [01:59] ;) [02:00] Red-Raven: for a custom install? [02:00] Red-Raven: i use: 200MB -> /boot, 12-15GB -> /, (and thats being over generous), the rest i give to /home ;) [02:01] Red-Raven: is that what you mean [02:01] installing ubuntu on an old XP desktop and dual booting. ive given 54 GB to linux. [02:02] Red-Raven: If you use all one partition, it doesn't really matter all that much. Any more than 20GB or so is fine if you don't store massive collections, like music or movies. [02:02] i am at the part where i pick out all the partitions like the swap etc. and can't remember the right sizes. [02:03] Red-Raven: how much ram do you have? [02:04] 512 MB. im installing ubuntu first, and ill get some slimer environments for it later. [02:04] id prolly want 800 or so for swap [02:06] and for the others? aren't there like three? [02:07] if you want [02:07] i usually just do swap [02:07] and everything in one other partition [02:07] seperate /home partition is a good idea though [02:07] on my EEE [02:07] i have one ext2 partition [02:07] no swap [02:08] ok. ill do this all in the morning. ive got to go to bed soon, and i have too many questions. thx though. [02:08] yeah, give is some thought [02:08] well, afternoon. maybe even friday. [02:34] hello [02:34] Hai des_ :) [02:34] anyone here i have question [02:34] hi ChrisDruif [02:35] Shoot, we will try to answer to our best ability :) [02:35] i am having problems with program called playonlinux are u familiar [02:36] It's a graphical layer around Wine if I'm not wrong? [02:36] how about /j #playonlinux ? [02:36] no one there? [02:36] Might be a better idea :) [02:37] well when i try to install game it ask me to mount cdrom [02:37] you have it mounted? [02:37] and last time i checked it was /media/cdrom ? [02:37] des_: Did you try #playonlinux <= channel? [02:37] might have to check again ;) [02:37] in termilnal [02:38] ChrisDruif: ty for channel i will try [02:38] /dev/cdrom ? [02:39] Thank holstein des_ :) [02:39] from http://www.linuxconfig.org/HowTo_mount_cdrom_in_linux [02:39] Probably there is already mount point on you system. Usually it is /cdrom, /media/cdrom, /media/cdrom0 or /mnt/cdrom . If this not your case create a new mount point now. [02:40] ChrisDruif: :) [02:40] :D [02:40] holstein: i am noob at this 4 months with linux now [02:40] so i would not begin to know how to do that [02:40] des_: welcome [02:40] ty :) [02:40] des_: how to do what? [02:41] i was just suggesting those as other possible mount points [02:41] BUT if that channel is not dead [02:41] i bet they'll know [02:41] how would i change my mount point or find which one is needed or being used for this program [02:42] im there and no answr yet but i be on for a while [02:43] des_: you could check that link [02:43] des_: Sometimes people are afk...so respond slow... === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin [02:44] des_: Go into Wine Configuration (Applications > WINE > Configure Wine...) and go to the Drives tab. Hit Autodetect... and WINE will re-detect your CD. [02:46] i will do that aveilleux but i am using playonlinux program [02:46] is that the same thing [02:46] des_: I'm aware. PlayOnLinux uses the same config files that WINE does. [02:46] ok i was just asking [02:47] PlayOnLinux is a graphical layer for WINE :P [02:47] ChrisDruif: PlayOnLinux is a graphical front-end to WINE; winecfg is another. [02:48] Indeed...winecfg is default GUI? [02:49] ChrisDruif: Yes. [02:50] But too some is POL easier...I might try it some day... [02:57] aveilleux: i just auto detected and that program still says it cant find drive === Guest86859 is now known as AndrewMC [02:57] des_: I don't know the intricacies of POL, so I don't know a lot about how it operates. That should have worked, but POL may be using a different version of WINE for the program you're trying to install. [03:06] hi all. after upgrading from 9.10 -> 10.04 when i open evince, then try to open pdf's from a command line, it doesn't open the pdf documents using the existing evince process [03:07] ideas? [03:07] Yes, I know what is happening, not how to fix it I'm afraid :) [03:07] wow, that's interesting that you heard about it [03:08] hmmm, it's an interesting problem, but it's very mysterious how it works. [03:08] When you open something through terminal, it starts in the process of the terminal...unless you put an & at the end :) [03:08] Or it's starts a separate process nonetheless...not quite sure :) [03:08] ah, i'll use the & then [03:09] So you don't need to start evince separately... [03:09] that sounds like it will suit my purposes...it was before that i could run evince from alt-f2, then just type evince filename, and it would open the document using the existing process [03:09] all right, i'll use & [03:09] that'll work until i have an idea [03:09] thanks ChrisDruif [03:10] You can open a pdf like this: evince /path/to/file.pdf [03:10] And ofx an & [03:10] So: evince /path/to/file.pdf & [03:10] yeah, that worked. cool [03:10] Glad to be of help :) [03:20] how come sudo tar -xvvf /home/ubuntu/Desktop/icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 doesn't work/ [03:23] is your username "ubuntu"? [03:25] shawn146: ^^ [03:25] no [03:26] where it says ubuntu, replace it with your username [03:26] huh [03:26] hakimsheriff: h might be using the Live CD [03:26] /home/YOU/.... [03:26] s/h/he [03:27] yes he might i forgot about that [03:27] true... [03:27] my screen name is shawn146 [03:27] it always has [03:27] i always use /nick [03:28] shawn146, are you using Live USB ? [03:28] or lice cd [03:28] not atm [03:28] i am using vmware player [03:28] on the other user [03:28] If it is a bz2 file wouldn't you need the -j option? [03:28] this user] [03:29] shawn, you sure the file exists in the VM desktop ? [03:29] and you did -xvcf right? [03:29] oh i ddi xvvf] [03:29] let me try taht [03:30] shawn: running it with sudo puts it into root folder instead of home [03:30] err zxvf* [03:30] shawn, ^ [03:30] tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. [03:30] oh [03:31] sowwie just now got up from beds and a bit confused lol [03:31] wow [03:31] shawn, done? [03:31] apparently copying between my host and guest os is allowed [03:31] thats interesting [03:31] not yet [03:37] hey all! [03:38] I have created a live USB with version 10.10 and when I updated the system it seems to have messed up a few things. It seems that the kernel update might have been one of the problems. Could someone help me? [03:44] Zorin, a usb is a fresh install correct? [03:45] shawn what is the host and guest [03:45] nit, yes [03:46] Zorin, so whats going on maybe a little more info [03:47] I created a usb thumb drive with 10.10. After the install, I booted the usb thumb drive and did an update where it downloaded a bunch of packages [03:48] you don't know what a guest OS is and a host OS? [03:48] Zorin, did you use the Ubuntu thumb loader with persistence? [03:48] I rebooted after it was done with the update. After login back in it seems that the package manager is messed up and any time I try to install something I get an error [03:48] Yes, 4 gig persistence size [03:49] shawn, I just wanted to know which os was runing each one [03:49] Zorin, you don't update the kernel [03:49] from what I have been reading might be a problem updating the kernel because of a write issue with casper [03:49] oh [03:49] ubuntu 10.10 as guest [03:49] windows 7 64-bit on host [03:49] Zorin, how big is the thumb [03:50] and ubuntu is 64-bit also === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [03:50] nit, is there a way to prevent updating the kernel and grub? 8 gig thumb drive [03:50] shawn, you just need a share file and use W7 to link to it [03:51] shawn, a share in Ubuntu [03:51] i know [03:51] ic an do instant share [03:52] Zorin, yes tick it off in the update manager, you can probably lock the install kernel in synaptic not sure there though. With a 8 gig thumb I would do full install, just make sure grub the Ubuntu bootloader gores to the thumbs MBR [03:54] I did an install to the usb thumb drive but it is way to slow, faster as a live usb device or what ever you want to call it [03:54] the one thing that I don't like with the live usb is that you can't delete the "install *" icon on the desktop [03:55] if you deleted it and log back in it shows up [03:56] Zorin, so why do hyou want to run it this way [03:56] *you [03:57] I like to play around with it and don't want a dual boot [03:58] one other thing after the update, I can not browse my window shares [03:58] Zorin, okay, that is fine. The casper-rw file can't be cleaned out sooner or later it will fill up. The full install is to slow, where do we go from here? [03:59] rm -fr / [03:59] hahaha [03:59] Zorin if you think so [03:59] hmm [03:59] i am stuuck [04:00] I just like to play around with it [04:00] zxvf doesm't work [04:00] mostly use it for bittorrent stuff [04:00] shawn, is that the link letters from the W7 [04:01] no [04:01] i was using it as sudo tar -zxvf [04:01] while in the folder i wanted toe xtract [04:03] what is W7? [04:05] windows 7 [04:05] ok [04:06] so what are you trying to tar zxvf ? must be a zip tar file [04:07] no [04:08] .tar.bz2 [04:08] bzip2 you need to use the j not z tar xvfj [04:09] oh [04:09] I know command line stuff, don't know all the gui stuff, never been into x-windows [04:10] still didn't work [04:10] what is the error message? [04:18] I have a ton of questions! Would it be exceedingly annoying if I queried a lot? [04:19] Sorry, am just a simple simon and just learning. [04:19] go for it [04:19] !aks [04:19] Factoid 'aks' not found [04:19] !ask [04:19] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:23] Cool, thanks! Am curious how I can run a linux OS and still run a windows OS at the same time. I read that it can be done. Additionally, I was reading that Linux offers a Graphical Interface. How can I obtain this am wanting to explore and experiement some. Have some rudimentary skills and am looking to enhance my knowledge. [04:25] simplesimon: it's called dual-booting. [04:26] simplesimon: well, your description sounds more like virtualization, running a guest and host OS. [04:26] you can use VirtualBox or KVM for that. [04:26] but dual-booting's another task. [04:26] Answers your question? [04:32] Yes, that helps quite a bit. I know how to set up a dual-boot configuration. Which is going to be easier for learning and experimenting with. Am quite a novice not looking to crack things but want to start learning how to develop. VirtualBox of KVM are those going to simplify that process? [04:36] Sorry if am delayed in responding am researching virtualbox and kvm at the moment as well. [04:37] i think virtualbox is a great starting point [04:37] and a handy tool for other purposes [04:37] testing or whatever [04:37] not a waste of time learning about VM or vitrual box [04:40] vmware player is very good as well [04:40] I prefer it wholly over virtualbox [04:53] Am curious, which programming language should I start learning first? And where should I go to learn them. I have played with HTML and CSS some for basic website building in Notepad, but am far from proficient, any help there? [04:56] Was reading that Python was a good starting point some said Java - just wanted to actually get some real advice not just web reading. Perhaps a few places to go so I can delve into this jungle. === sresu is now known as sre-su [04:56] Python's perfecting for immediate work. [04:56] But I personally recommend learning C++. [04:57] simplesimon: i'd say if you've played with HTML/CSS, why not develop it to a more professional level? then start off with python, C/C++ or Java. :) [04:58] Start out with the C++ any ideas where I can go to do that (college right! haha jk) that will walk me through it a bit etc.? [04:58] simplesimon: try here; http://cprogramming.com/ [04:59] I agree joe am trying to do that - I just found this place about 1hr ago... didnt even know there was a place I could go and ask people for help... is hard doing it alone but I find it fun is a mental challenge and i like that [04:59] sweet joe [05:01] Hey JoeMaverickSett [05:01] hey, JackyAlcine :) [05:02] I got hooked when I was playing around with HTML and CSS ya know built my first website from scratch - it was awesome I got addicted. [05:03] i mean that was using notepad and then i found notepad pe that was cool it helped a ton [05:03] Same way I got started, simplesimon :D [05:05] That is awesome, JackyAlcine, then you know exactly what am talking about. I mean that whole feeling of holy wow! I just did that? I mean -- notepad really who knew? I mean that was the greatest feeling ever... oh ya the website was lame and had a header and footer and body with a few sentences it was basic and cheesy but i was like omg i did that [05:06] Have you played with jQuery (http://www.jquery.com)? [05:06] Visit http://www.csstricks.com [05:06] N I have now [05:06] no i have not sorry typos [05:11] Well that will make for a lot of fun... drag and drop functions and special effects will be fun to tinker with [05:11] Yup :D [05:12] exit [05:12] opps [05:12] night folks [05:13] I really appreciate the time (everyone that is helping me out) a lot of people forget what it is like to be in my shoes starting out and needing a place to go to get ideas and info [05:13] Was going to say a 4.0 high school drop out that got bored and likes to challenge himself but well.. is true [05:17] well i have some study to do will chat later - ty everyone [05:25] Hi can anyone here help me with a ssh key issue I am having? [05:26] !question | theamazingbeat [05:26] theamazingbeat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:39] That was weird. [05:40] MrAnthrope: what? [05:40] you guys didn't see that? I was ghosting myself and then I would sign back on. [05:41] * Cheri703 has join/part messages hidden [05:41] * geekosopher too [05:41] I came home and xchat was closed. and the last message was that someone else identified as me. [05:41] I opened xchat again and saw myself on so I ghosted myself. And it worked. Then I signed back on lol. [05:41] And ghosted myself again. [05:42] hmmm... so we have a real ghost here ;) [05:43] lol [05:44] MrAnthrope, are you registered [05:44] Yeah. [05:44] MrAnthrope: better put enforce on your nick so that other people cannot user your nick. [05:44] ohhh scary [05:44] use /msg nickserv help set enforce for more info. :) [05:45] Well the last message I got was that "someone else" had identified my nick ... from my own IP address. [05:45] I think xchat got closed somehow and tried reconnecting or something. [05:47] * geekosopher thinks he should send this plot to RGV [05:47] :D [05:47] geekosopher: do you want another flop? [05:47] :D [05:48] lol [05:48] those who didn't get it RGV (Ram Gopal Verma) makes ghost movies in India :) [05:49] s/ghost/flop [05:50] lol === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [05:55] So anyway. Umm when I run games in wine they used to take up a lot less system resources when minimized... and I upgraded wine and now they seem to take the same amount. [05:55] I'm running on an old computer and I can't open chrome and a game at the same time... unless the game is minimized. [05:55] I vaguely remember something about setting a registry key for this? maybe not? [05:59] I would ask in #WineHQ but last time I went there I got yelled at for asking newb questions. [06:07] offscreen render mode? [06:08] Probably, MrAnthrope. [06:21] 'lo team! [06:22] heyya robbmunson [06:22] Rolling zombie returns....for now..... [06:22] robbmunson: How's the family? [06:22] the girlfriend and kids? [06:24] robbmunson: I thought you got married for some reason [06:24] robbmunson: yeah, how's the girl and the kids? [06:24] bolted for the door christmas eve..... [06:24] :| [06:24] haven't seen or heard from them since.....*shrugs* [06:25] merry freakin christmas amiright? lmao....im not hurt....it's whatever man.. [06:25] robbmunson: fyck that dude, that sucks ass [06:28] my exams are postponed! [06:28] yay! [06:29] yay =) [06:29] hey robbmunson [06:29] * robbmunson waves [06:30] im not staying long I don't think..... [06:30] though I still have not heard from my school about what decision they have about this [06:30] * IAmNotThatGuy hugs robbmunson [06:32] :) [06:32] robbmunson, you can identify me? :P [06:32] IAmNotThatGuy: anyone can [06:33] You're....the devil! ;) [06:33] because YouAreNotThatGuy [06:33] robbmunson, :P [06:34] I think I just scared the hell out of paultag :/ [06:35] so I can set offscreen rendering to backbuffer.... what is backbuffer? [06:36] and some things on google are saying backbuffer is default and some are saying pbuffer is default ... [06:36] MrAnthrope: secondary frame buffer.... [06:36] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/new-smooth-intelligent-plymouth-boot-screen-for-ubuntu/ [06:37] For the record I loved the brown theme and I despise the purple plymouth theme. [06:39] robbmunson, its nearly 2 AM there. he went to sleep [06:39] ......he was _just_ talking..... [06:40] The first thing I thought when I was installing Ubuntu was "I'm changing that fugly purple nonsense!" [06:40] MrAnthrope: Beauty of Linux...change it all! =) [06:41] Luckily I knew it was customizable. Feel sorry for people who barfed after they installed it and then went back to windows. [06:42] * robbmunson wishes I could sleep..... [06:43] vulcans sleep naked? [06:43] oops [06:43] wrong chat [06:43] o.o [06:43] crap [06:43] >.< [06:44] shawn, leave the stinking up of the room to the professionals my friend! lol [06:45] Is there a non-purple boot splash? [06:45] (I have an NVidia card and the purple ones seem to look HORRID) [06:45] There is some issue with nvidia and the boot splash. [06:45] wut? [06:45] robbmunson what do you mean? [06:46] Yeah, MrAnthrope. [06:46] There's dozens of plymouth themes out there. [06:46] shawn: You said "crap"...was just making a witty reply to it.... [06:46] Ok, one thing that ticks me off that I (surprisingly) have yet to figure out..... [06:47] mah friends in a star trek channel over on justin.tv are joking around [06:47] .....login window.....HOW?! [06:47] about voyager series [06:49] ...restarting. [06:52] Yo, does anyone know how to tweak the GDM screen? [06:53] Like I know it's defined in some glade files. [06:53] Hey des_ [06:54] hi JackyAlcine [06:54] this program playonlinux wont detect my cdrom so i can play a game [06:55] Try ripping the disc to an ISO, and then mounting that. [06:55] JackyAlcine: perhaps Ubuntu Tweak? [06:55] JackyAlcine: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/ubuntu-tweak-054-released-with-login.html [06:55] No, like back before how you could customize it in Hardy and stuff. [06:55] playonlinux doesent use cd [06:55] just mounts iso [06:55] I've installed Halo using a disc, (/dev/cdrom) [06:57] there is no disc it just plays the iso like it was in drive [06:57] am i saying this right [06:57] im still noob [06:58] We are all, in some aspect of computers ;) [06:58] Have you tried closing PlayOnLinux altogether? [06:58] and restarting it? [06:58] but it keeps sayingyes [06:58] i was doing this earlier but took a much needed break [06:59] just says error unable to find cdrom [07:00] how would i be able to find my cdrom and what my cpu named it [07:00] would it be /media/cdrom right ? [07:01] that or /dev/cdrom. [07:01] Can't remember off of the top of my head. [07:09] This is what my current splash boot screen looks like http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/z-oij_fYjRhfQ1tZTHRB4r4nKPHJZ0b_lu_28BuXo-8?feat=directlink [07:44] Hi I am mapping a drive and following a guide of the ubuntu site, anyway I am editing my FSTAB file and it is telling me to put in this line: /// // cifs credentials=/home//.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 [07:44] what should I put in LOCALMOUNTPOINT and LOCALPATH [07:47] or is this the wrong channel for this sort of thing [07:53] theamazingbeat, not really beginners stuff try #ubuntu [07:53] okay [07:53] I finally swapped OpenOffice for LibreOffice. [07:54] JackyAlcine, I did on a linuxmint set up not to shabby. [07:55]