[01:29] <doctormo> jono_: You need to askubuntu ;-) or is it askfreenode?
[04:23]  * nhandler prefers ask /msg chanserv help ;)
[04:29] <nigelb> duanedesign: Hey, if you want a slot at user days, might want to pick a topic soon :)
[04:29] <nigelb> duanedesign: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions
[06:30] <dholbach> good morning
[06:35] <nigelb> Good Morning.
[06:58] <dholbach> can somebody please sticky-fy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10322419 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10322422 ?
[07:06] <jono_> morning dholbach!
[07:10] <dholbach> hey jono_!
[07:15] <jono_> ok bed for me
[07:15] <jono_> night!
[07:54] <kim0> Morning
[07:57] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:08] <nigelb>  Morning kim0 :)
[09:29] <czajkowski> My talk for FOSDEM got accepted :D
[09:31] <randa> congrats czajkowski
[09:33] <czajkowski> randa: oh good morning to you ! welcome back
[09:33]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[09:33] <randa> :)
[09:33] <czajkowski> randa: I sent in a special request yesterday for cds I know it's not you any more, but who can I follow up wiht ?
[09:34] <randa> i can still do it for you..
[09:34] <randa> czajkowski: ^^
[09:35] <czajkowski> randa: ohh you rock :D
[15:27] <greg-g> is it just me, or has there been a lot of discussion lately about FOSS community management/building wrt businesses
[16:02] <akgraner> greg-g nope it is not just you - it's a big topic of discussion
[16:17] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[16:17] <jcastro> any idea what's up with the ARB?
[16:17] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[16:17] <dholbach> no
[16:17] <dholbach> no idea
[16:22] <doctormo> Morning both
[16:23] <nigelb> Morning doctormo
[16:23] <doctormo> greg-g: I was playing with the idea of getting one of those hot community management jobs... then I realised how busy jono gets and thought better of it.
[16:24] <jcastro> I would rather kill myself than deal with that
[16:24] <nigelb> doctormo: Hey, did you think of user days and if you want to do something?
[16:24] <jcastro> ok, suicide might be a little strong
[16:24] <jcastro> maybe just eyeballing my own eyeballs out with rusted spoons
[16:24] <nigelb> jcastro: btw, you want to take a session at user day?  ;)
[16:24] <jcastro> link?
[16:24] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions
[16:25] <nigelb> pick whatever you think a new user should know :)
[16:25] <jcastro> give me some time to think
[16:26] <nigelb> sure :)
[16:26] <nigelb> oh, I should talk to sil!
[16:26] <nigelb> with that, I opened my 90th window
[16:26] <greg-g> doctormo: dependson the community's needs, of course. Ubuntu is just a dang needy community ;)
[16:27] <doctormo> nigelb: What do you want teaching? Graphics/wacom, bug reporting, something to do with midi or sound, or perhaps setting up printers or scanners?
[16:27] <jcastro> maybe I could represent the couch potato community
[16:27] <doctormo> greg-g: Worse than the creative commons community?
[16:27] <nigelb> doctormo: user oriented, don't kill them ;)
[16:28] <doctormo> jcastro: Have you ever been a wife to a couch potato? You'd be running in and out with drinks and chips all day.
[16:28] <jcastro> or beer and pizza
[16:29] <doctormo> nigelb: Making graphics in inkscape it is, fun skillz and all that jazz.
[16:29] <greg-g> doctormo: hmmm, well, the CC community is a ton different than Ubuntu's. TONS less governance structure to worry about.
[16:29] <nigelb> doctormo: but would 1 hour of IRC be enough for that?
[16:30] <doctormo> greg-g: did you see my free culture poster? was meaning to get your feedback.
[16:30] <jcastro> I take pride in never reading our governance. *shifty eyes*
[16:30] <greg-g> I *think*, link?
[16:30] <doctormo> jcastro: I thought our governance was JFDI?
[16:30] <greg-g> jcastro: bad boy
[16:30] <jcastro> doctormo: INDEED IT IS.
[16:31] <doctormo> greg-g: We're on revision 11 of the text... http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/material/poster/free-culture-poster
[16:31] <doctormo> nigelb: I think 1 hour will be enough to cover an introduction.
[16:31] <doctormo> nigelb: What I might need is some sort of visual display... which is the problem with IRC.
[16:31] <nigelb> ahhh :|
[16:36] <greg-g> doctormo: I have some comments I'll give later tonight, cool?
[16:36] <doctormo> greg-g: sure thing.
[16:36] <greg-g> awesome :)
[16:44] <nigelb> doctormo: shall I put you down for inkscape?
[16:44] <doctormo> nigelb: yes please
[16:45] <nigelb> doctormo: any specific timeyou want?
[16:49] <doctormo> nop
[16:50] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions --> updated
[16:51] <nigelb> ok, any suggestions for instrucctors?
[16:51] <nigelb> and/or topics
[16:53] <popey> nigelb: tried asking Daviey about cloud stuff?
[16:53] <nigelb> popey: No.  But would cloud stuff be interesting to new users?
[16:53] <nigelb> s/new//
[16:53]  * Daviey unlurks
[16:53] <nigelb> OMG, Daviey !
[16:54] <Daviey> OMG, nigelb !
[16:54] <popey> people probably have heard of it and wonder what it can do for them?
[16:54] <popey> OMG OMG!
[16:54] <Daviey> popey, are you signing me up for more work?
[16:54] <nigelb> Daviey: Want to a session at the user days coming up? :)
[16:54] <popey> Yes.
[16:54] <Daviey> popey, Grr! :P
[16:54] <popey> :D
[16:54] <Daviey> nigelb, date?
[16:54] <popey> if I'm doing one, you can :)
[16:54] <nigelb> Daviey: 29th weekend
[16:54] <Daviey> heh
[16:54] <popey> mine is titled "How to get other people to do your work"
[16:55] <popey> :)
[16:55] <nigelb> sil begged off, but I got someone on his team
[16:55] <Daviey> hah
[16:55] <nigelb> if he were there
[16:55] <nigelb> it would be like british taking over user days :p
[16:55] <Daviey> nigelb, I will provisionally say yes :)
[16:55] <popey> hmm, i wonder if a "what not to do to your brand new Ubuntu install"
[16:55] <popey> ..might be interesting
[16:56] <popey> a crash course in how not to break your system
[16:56] <nigelb> popey: It would.  Or "things that popey does on Ubuntu" including the webcam trick and others you've pulled off.
[16:56] <nigelb> Daviey: great thanks, I'll add your name up
[16:56] <nigelb> Daviey: preferably utc friendly time?
[16:58] <Daviey> nigelb, yes - i assume you can suffle them nearer the time if needed?
[16:58] <nigelb> Daviey: yep
[16:58] <Daviey> groovy
[16:58] <popey> remind me when it is again?
[16:58] <popey> oh, you said
[16:58] <popey> 29th
[16:58] <nigelb> popey: 29th weekend.
[16:58] <popey> this month?
[16:58] <nigelb> yes
[16:59] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[16:59] <popey> wiki page?
[16:59]  * dholbach hugs you
[16:59]  * popey tickles dholbach 
[16:59]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[16:59] <Pendulum> dholbach: have a good rest of your day!
[16:59] <nigelb> popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions
[16:59] <dholbach> Pendulum, you too
[16:59] <popey> ta
[17:00] <popey> bah, stupid wiki
[17:00] <popey> i keep getting 500 errors when subscribing to pages
[17:00] <nigelb> #blame AlanBell
[17:00] <nigelb> or rather #poke
[17:03] <AlanBell> bug 661173
[17:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 661173 in ubuntu-website "wiki is slow for full text searching (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661173
[17:03] <AlanBell> yay, invalid
[17:04] <nigelb> popey: topic to think about --> secruity in linux
[17:04] <popey> nigelb: not my bag
[17:04] <nigelb> or
[17:04] <nigelb> 'misconceptions about security in linux'
[17:04] <popey> I am not a security nut
[17:05] <nigelb> ah
[17:06] <nigelb> popey: top 20 things that could go wrong and how to get out of it :D
[17:07] <Pendulum> nigelb: 20 is a lot of things to cover in an hour. Makes more sense to do the top 10 or 5
[17:08] <nigelb> Pendulum: true true.
[17:08] <nigelb> Pendulum: but its popey :p He can do 50 even :D :D
[17:08]  * nigelb tickles popey
[17:08] <popey> hah
[17:09] <nigelb> Even 10 applications that I love and you'll love too would be good
[17:16] <nigelb> http://notalwaysright.com/attempting-mouse-to-mouse-resuscitation/9433
[17:17] <nigelb> jcastro: ^^
[17:30] <AlanBell> popey: doing pretty much anything on the wiki right now gives me an error 500, anyone else seeing this?
[17:31] <nigelb> yeah
[17:31] <nigelb> I had to refresh a few times
[17:32] <popey> yup
[17:41] <jcastro> test
[17:41] <AlanBell> didn't work
[17:41] <jcastro> how do I change it so it works?
[17:41] <jcastro> :)
[17:42] <AlanBell> just reboot it and try again
[17:44] <nigelb> jcastro: oooh, I got an intersting topic for you.  Maybe.
[17:44] <nigelb> Unity.
[17:44] <jcastro> oh dude for sure
[17:44] <jcastro> put me down with DBO (Jason Smith)
[17:44] <jcastro> and we'll sort something
[17:45] <nigelb> \o/
[17:45] <nigelb> jcastro: do you have a link to dbo's wiki page?
[17:59] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~jassmith is all he has afaik
[18:00] <nigelb> yeah, I used that one
[18:11] <jcastro> can someone mention me in the irc channel please? I am testing something, thanks!
[18:11] <nigelb> jcastro:
[18:13] <jcastro> awesome, thanks!
[19:08] <jcastro> jono: are you planning on ustreaming next week?
[19:09] <jcastro> jono: if we have the BW, we should do a ustream with the unity folks at your normal show time, that would be sweet
[19:11] <jono> jcastro, I am going to try
[19:11] <jono> that could be awesome
[19:11] <jcastro> yes, for one reason I think
[19:11] <jcastro> you have a schedule and a set audience already
[19:11] <jcastro> which would mean more participation
[19:33] <czajkowski> hmm
[19:34] <jcastro> jono: also, in case you missed it, neil was out sick today so they're going to cancel the drop this week
[19:34] <jcastro> jono: there will be plenty of things next week for them to upload anyway, heh
[19:36] <jono> jcastro, ok
[19:38] <jcastro> jono: this gives you plenty of time to USE BANSHEE all day long
[19:38]  * jcastro does the happy dance
[19:39]  * czajkowski wonders what does jcastro is on and can she please have a double dose 
[19:39] <jcastro> caffeine
[20:08] <sense> Hurray! I received a conditional offer from Cambridge today. :P But the requirements are ouch hard. I'll be even less online until May, I'm afraid.
[20:10] <czajkowski> sense: congratulations
[20:11] <sense> czajkowski: Thanks! The trip to East-Anglia through the mist, cold weather and flight and train delays served a purpose. :)
[20:11] <czajkowski> oh I hear ya!
[20:12] <sense> I hope to be able to attend some Ubuntu UK events in the future, my exam results permitting. :)
[20:18] <czajkowski> :)
[20:19] <czajkowski> IF it comes down to it: why would you chose inkscape over illustrator if money were no object ?
[20:19] <JanC> sense: will you be at FOSDEM?
[20:20] <czajkowski> JanC: my talk got accepted for FOSDEM :) I'm still in shock!
[20:20] <sense> czajkowski: grats! :)
[20:20] <JanC> yeah, I saw
[20:20] <pleia2> congrats czajkowski :)
[20:20] <czajkowski> now I just need to get over my nerves
[20:20] <sense> JanC: I don't think I have the funds and the time and the permission (of school) to attend a conference in Brussels, I'm afraid.
[20:21] <sense> I will make some noise in our LoCo.
[20:21] <czajkowski> JanC: I plugged the wiki last night, hope you don't mind
[20:21] <JanC> sense: it's during the weekend, and I can offer you a place to sleep if needed
[20:21] <czajkowski> the french are sending some folks over to help and merchandise to sell as well
[20:22] <JanC> czajkowski: I was planning to send a mail this week, will add some stuff in a reply to your mails probably
[20:22] <sense> JanC: Tempting, tempting! I need a way to move the Ubuntu banner that will arrive tomorrow at my place South, and we shouldn't let the French speaking people overtake the conference! :P
[20:22] <JanC> hehe
[20:22] <sense> JanC: Thank you for your offer, I'll consider it.
[20:22] <JanC> lots of dutch-speaking people around at the conference though
[20:23] <sense> czajkowski: You are aware that you will be heading to a country that after 207 days still doesn't have a new government? ;)
[20:25] <sense> A bit worse than the 2-3 days the Brits panicked about.
[20:30] <czajkowski> I am on the most disorganised conf call known to man
[20:31] <JanC> sense: I'm not sure it's even a record time for Belgium...  ;)
[20:32] <sense> JanC: We held the world record for cabinet formation until Iraq broke it last year. That's who we are competing against!
[20:35] <JanC> sense: in any case, you can sleep at my uncle & aunt's place (where I also sleep) if you come to FOSDEM, and you might be able to find somebody to travel with too if you ask around...  ;)
[20:35] <sense> ok, thank you
[20:35] <JanC> lots of dutch FLOSS people who come to Brussels after all
[20:35] <JanC> including peopel from Ubuntu, Debian, GNOME, KDE, Samba, ...
[20:39] <sense> I really ought to show my face there.
[20:40] <czajkowski> couchsuring posted as well re fosdem
[23:20] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2628441518/integrating-with-web-apps
[23:20] <jcastro> yeah! Aq for the win!
[23:35] <pleia2> kim0: I was just sent this link by one of my loco members who was interested in the content, youtube link missing? http://www.ubuntu.com/content/ahmed-kamal-cloud-lamp-stack-60-seconds
[23:35] <pleia2> I gave her the proper youtube link to get her on her way, but it's probably worth noting that people are going to that page and the content is missing
[23:38] <ScottL> sorry about the facebook jono, i'm part of the 0.01% that doesn't actually use facebook everyday
[23:41] <jono> ScottL, no worries, pal!