| barry | lifeless: not sure, but at least as far back as 2.4 | 00:10 |
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| lifeless | cool | 00:10 |
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| kklimonda | hmm, interesting - I have a patch in the maverick package that enables launchpad-integration | 01:50 |
| kklimonda | it doesn't add any additional CFLAGS to the Makefile, and it worked fine during maverick development | 01:51 |
| kklimonda | but now, that I try to make an SRU compilation fails - it can't find <launchpad-integration.h> | 01:51 |
| kklimonda | I wonder whether I have broken my maverick pbuilder.. hmm.. | 02:03 |
| kklimonda | oh well, I'll work on that tomorrow | 02:03 |
| TheMuso | /c/ | 02:06 |
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| linuxfreaker | Is 2.6.37 Kernel expected in 11.04 Alpha2 | 05:46 |
| JackyAlcine | I doubt it, linuxfreaker. | 05:50 |
| JackyAlcine | Maybe 2.6.36 but not 2.6.37 | 05:50 |
| micahg | 2.6.37 is already in natty | 05:50 |
| linuxfreaker | 2.6.37-rc4 is there in natty, 2.6.37 just released yesterday | 05:54 |
| micahg | I was commenting on the 2.6.36 vs 2.6.37 comment | 05:55 |
| micahg | linuxfreaker: rc8 is in now | 05:56 |
| linuxfreaker | Not rc8...GA already announced | 05:56 |
| micahg | actually, it's 2.6.37 final https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-January/004719.html | 05:56 |
| linuxfreaker | Check the kernel.org | 05:56 |
| linuxfreaker | I compiled it yesterday..sounds better | 05:56 |
| micahg | linuxfreaker: it's already in natty :P | 05:56 |
| StevenK | * rebase to v2.6.37 final | 05:56 |
| linuxfreaker | ahh great | 05:57 |
| linuxfreaker | So does it mean that Alpha2 will have 2.6.37 GA kernel | 05:57 |
| StevenK | It's in about 3 weeks, but yes | 05:59 |
| StevenK | Well, Ubuntu doesn't use kernel.org kernels, but it will be based on 2.6.37 final | 06:00 |
| Keybuk | StevenK: well, we do use kernel.org kernels | 06:03 |
| Keybuk | we just add things to it | 06:03 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:30 |
| dholbach | bryceh, chrisccoulson: happy new year and happy patch pilot day (if you're back from holidays already :-)) | 06:31 |
| linuxfreaker | I want to raise a bug | 07:10 |
| linuxfreaker | in Launchpad | 07:10 |
| linuxfreaker | I created an a/c | 07:10 |
| linuxfreaker | how can I raise a bug | 07:10 |
| linuxfreaker | I dont see " | 07:10 |
| linuxfreaker | Create new bug" section anywhere | 07:10 |
| micahg | linuxfreaker: run 'ubuntu-bug PKGNAME' from the cli | 07:12 |
| akshatj | linuxfreaker: is it a bug in a different package or launchpad itself? | 07:12 |
| micahg | ah, that's a good question... | 07:13 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 07:52 |
| JackyAlcine | Morning, pitti | 07:55 |
| chrisccoulson | hi dholbach, and happy new year to you too :) | 07:59 |
| chrisccoulson | am i patch pilot today? i'm still officially on vacation until monday ;) | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | (although, i'll be hanging around for most of the day) | 08:00 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson, nevermind then - take it easy :) | 08:01 |
| pitti | bryceh, Sarvatt: are you on the current xserver-xorg-core uninstallability? it depends on "keyboard-configuration" which doesn't exist | 08:03 |
| pitti | and it's not in NEW either | 08:04 |
| linuxfreaker | akshat: Pretty Funny | 08:14 |
| linuxfreaker | But I am not on Ubuntu machine | 08:14 |
| linuxfreaker | I want to file a bug through website | 08:14 |
| linuxfreaker | launchpad.ubunut.com | 08:14 |
| linuxfreaker | launchpad.ubuntu.com | 08:15 |
| akshatj | linuxfreaker: its launchad.net | 08:15 |
| akshatj | oops | 08:16 |
| akshatj | launchpad.net | 08:16 |
| linuxfreaker | akshatj: Cannot see File or Create a bug option | 08:17 |
| linuxfreaker | whers that? | 08:17 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:17 |
| linuxfreaker | gm | 08:18 |
| linuxfreaker | didrocks: How r u? | 08:18 |
| akshatj | linuxfreaker: there is 'Report a Bug' under 'Get Involved' in the right | 08:18 |
| didrocks | linuxfreaker: I'm fine, thanks, and you? | 08:18 |
| linuxfreaker | akshatj: I am unable to see anywhere..can yu send me the complete link | 08:20 |
| linuxfreaker | I can browse the bugs but dont see where I can sumbit new bug | 08:21 |
| cjwatson | pitti: that's my problem | 08:22 |
| cjwatson | (pending MIR promotion, then keyboard-configuration will be in NEW shortly afterwards) | 08:22 |
| akshatj | linuxfreaker: you can't see this http://imgur.com/3S2e6 ? | 08:24 |
| cjwatson | linuxfreaker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 08:24 |
| cjwatson | especially https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net | 08:25 |
| linuxfreaker | akshatj: thanks | 08:30 |
| apw | is there something wrong with the launchpad build farm? i have builds which claim to have finished 9 hours ago which are still 'uploading build' | 08:57 |
| apw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.37-12.26/+build/2125799 | 08:57 |
| cjwatson | #launchpad would have better ability to check ... | 08:58 |
| cjwatson | I hadn't heard of a general problem | 08:59 |
| apw | cjwatson, thanks | 08:59 |
| apw | cjwatson, am not the only one affected, so i guess a generic problem | 09:00 |
| apw | cjwatson, seemes everything finishing since the 'deployment this morning' are stuck and not uploading | 09:02 |
| apw | cirtainly some 8 hours or so ago at least | 09:02 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: can we chat about kubuntu seeds today? | 09:17 |
| Riddell | we need to work out if kubuntu mobile bits should be in an entirely separate seed | 09:18 |
| Riddell | !regression-alert | 09:20 |
| ubottu | cjwatson, jdong, pitti, slangasek, ScottK, mdz, kees, ttx, marjo, seb128: reporting regression in a stable release update; investigate severity, start an incident report, perhaps have the package blacklisted from the archive | 09:20 |
| Riddell | goodness | 09:20 |
| Riddell | bug 696675 is the issue, fix uploaded to -proposed awaiting approval | 09:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 696675 in kde-l10n-engb (Ubuntu Lucid) "kde l10n packages depend on libkdecore5 which doesn't exist" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696675 | 09:20 |
| pitti | hey Riddell | 09:22 |
| pitti | Riddell: ah, will do right away | 09:22 |
| Riddell | thanks | 09:22 |
| pitti | uh, *all* those? ok | 09:23 |
| bdrung | is there an problem with the archive? various builds are on "uploading build" for hours. e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pwdhash/1.7-9/+build/2126172 | 09:31 |
| dholbach | bdrung, see conversation between apw and cjwatson above | 09:33 |
| apw | bdrung, #launchpad released something last night and its broken binary uploads by the seems of it | 09:33 |
| mvo | cjwatson: I just booted into a btrfs boot via the new grub, pretty impressive :) it seems like grub-probe is unhappy and cant identify /boot but from the grub shell at boot its all good | 09:46 |
| dupondje | Hi guys, can we mark bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/697181 as critical ? | 09:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 697181 in php5 (Ubuntu Natty) "DoS: Infinite loop processing 2.2250738585072011e-308" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:51 |
| dupondje | needs some fast attention :) | 09:51 |
| apw | bdrung, looks like things are uploading now | 09:58 |
| linuxfreaker | I was running a NIC Hot-Add script on Ubuntu 10.10 VM and the script failed at the stage where in it checks the entries under /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules for the MAC address | 10:09 |
| linuxfreaker | The script was checking for the Mac address entry for the newly added NIC under this file but there wasn’t any entry! | 10:10 |
| linuxfreaker | It was working in 9.10 | 10:11 |
| linuxfreaker | I tried to run the same script under Ubuntu 9.10 32bit VM, and after the NIC hot-add operation, the MAC address details were logged under the 70-persistent-net.rules file | 10:11 |
| linuxfreaker | Pls Suggest.. | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: is kubuntu-mobile still a universe thing? | 10:43 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: can you get a -v log from grub-probe? | 10:44 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: it's odd for it to work at boot but for grub-probe not to work; usually, by design, those two go together | 10:44 |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: sure, to me its inconclusive, but I'm happy to post it in a sec. it might be some oddness because this was a /boot on ext2 before that I manually converted (well, copied over) | 10:45 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: well no, it got moved to main because keeping it in universe was too fiddly | 10:45 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: but really it should be in universe | 10:45 |
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| mvo_ | cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551019/ (i can do one of / for comparison if that helps and/or strace it | 10:48 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: if it's a pain to move it to a separate seed, I think I can perhaps manage to nobble component-mismatches to not consider the mobile part of the tree | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | er, to a separate collection | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: what were the arguments for that? | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: actually, I should have asked for -vv | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: the component-mismatches change looks quite difficult though, and might need a Launchpad change. How much of a pain would it be to move mobile to a separate seed collection? | 10:53 |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551020/ (this time with the commandline) | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: could you paste /proc/self/mountinfo? | 10:58 |
| * cjwatson has a suspicion ... | 10:59 | |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/551022/ | 11:00 |
| sebner | Riddell: mind accepting monobristol into maverick updates? bug #688847 | 11:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 688847 in monobristol (Ubuntu) "[patch] startBristol process directly use sound device." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688847 | 11:01 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: I think a separate seed collection would be the easiest thing to do | 11:05 |
| Riddell | sebner: that tends to be pitti's domain | 11:06 |
| sebner | Riddell: ah, sorry. Just saw that you are on duty today | 11:06 |
| pitti | sebner: it needs to be fixed in natty first | 11:06 |
| sebner | pitti: done ;) | 11:06 |
| Riddell | sebner: I am? | 11:06 |
| pitti | sebner: ah, so the natty task should be closed? | 11:07 |
| sebner | Riddell: Tuesday: JonathanRiddell | 11:07 |
| pitti | today is Thursday.. | 11:07 |
| sebner | Riddell: as long as the wiki isn't outdated | 11:07 |
| sebner | argh | 11:07 |
| * sebner = confused | 11:07 | |
| sebner | xD | 11:07 |
| sebner | Riddell: I'm sorry | 11:07 |
| sebner | pitti: done | 11:08 |
| pitti | sebner: thanks, moving to -updates | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: thanks - fixed upstream, http://paste.ubuntu.com/551023/ | 11:09 |
| sebner | pitti: thank you :) | 11:10 |
| sebner | pitti: you know, when one is student and still on holidays one tend to confuse thuesday with thursday :D | 11:11 |
| pitti | sebner: I know the feeling; I mixed them up during my two weeks of christmas holidays, too :) | 11:16 |
| sebner | heh =) | 11:16 |
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| cjwatson | pitti: do you think you could NEW keyboard-configuration, since you asked about it earlier? :-) | 12:07 |
| pitti | cjwatson: sure, looking | 12:07 |
| pitti | cjwatson: is this a splitout of some kind, or does it need to go through MIR? | 12:08 |
| cjwatson | it's binary NEW | 12:08 |
| pitti | oh, just a new binary | 12:08 |
| cjwatson | console-setup was split into a couple of pieces binary-wise | 12:08 |
| pitti | cjwatson: is not having a Replaces: to go with the Conflicts: intented? | 12:09 |
| cjwatson | hmm, I suspect there were no overlapping files upstream | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | let me adjust that before you process it | 12:11 |
| pitti | 'k | 12:11 |
| pitti | cjwatson: there are a couple of bashisms in config and postinst; aside from that conflicts: it looks fine to me | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | looks like I have to think a bit about how to handle console-setup-tty | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | pitti: which bashisms? | 12:13 |
| pitti | W: keyboard-configuration: possible-bashism-in-maintainer-script config:26295 'if type ' | 12:13 |
| pitti | W: keyboard-configuration: possible-bashism-in-maintainer-script config:26831 '& type ' | 12:13 |
| pitti | that's what lintian says anyway | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | well | 12:13 |
| pitti | not quite sure why, type exists in dash, too | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | that's technically nonportable but all the /bin/sh implementations I know of support it | 12:13 |
| pitti | right | 12:13 |
| pitti | so let's ignore that one | 12:13 |
| AnAnt | Hello, would someone comment on LP 697538 ? | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 697538 in ncurses (Ubuntu) "Sync ncurses 5.7+20101128-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697538 | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | right, I think console-setup-tty simply belongs in console-setup, not k-c | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | and the initramfs stuff too. (keyboard-configuration basically exists to be a lighter dependency for X ...) | 12:17 |
| pitti | so that you can have a downsized system with just X, and no VT font config and the like? | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | oh, wait, they go in keyboard-configuration because they're meant to be shared with console-setup-mini (which Ubuntu doesn't really use but nevertheless if we build it we should make it work) | 12:21 |
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| cjwatson | so in fact it *is* meant to have the init stuff | 12:23 |
| cjwatson | (sorry, this split was done upstream, I'm following alongg) | 12:23 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I need to run out for about two hours; I'm happy to have a look afterwards unless someone else beats me to it | 12:24 |
| cjwatson | I think I'll just add the Replaces | 12:24 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ok; feel free to NEW it yourself then | 12:25 |
| pitti | I can imagine how it'll look like :) | 12:25 |
| mok0 | I am puzzled that the debian policy says that the get-orig-source rule should leave the tarball in the current directory. When run from $topdir, it is then necessary to manually move the tarball one notch up | 12:27 |
| cjwatson | pitti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/console-setup/ubuntu/revision/165 | 12:28 |
| cjwatson | mok0: it also says "This target may be invoked in any directory", so I think the idea is that you *call* it from one level up | 12:29 |
| tumbleweed | cjwatson: practically that invoking from any directory bit is hard to implement (if you are going to use dpkg-parsechangelog to determine the version) | 12:29 |
| tumbleweed | I've always ignored it | 12:30 |
| mok0 | cjwatson: yes... but don't the tools always run from $topdir? | 12:30 |
| apw | cjwatson, i assume seeds do not get turned into packages ? | 12:30 |
| mok0 | cjwatson: I can see that leaving files in $cwd is the most logical behaviour though | 12:30 |
| cjwatson | mok0: get-orig-source is run by hand though, not via "the tools" | 12:30 |
| mok0 | cjwatson: afaik bzr-buildpackage tries to run it | 12:31 |
| cjwatson | heh, its problem then :) | 12:31 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, it runs it in the root of the package | 12:31 |
| cjwatson | that seems like a bug on the face of it | 12:31 |
| cjwatson | tumbleweed: get-orig-source doesn't need dpkg-parsechangelog information | 12:31 |
| cjwatson | apw: some seeds do. what do you mean? | 12:32 |
| tumbleweed | cjwatson: how do you know which versino to download then (unless you change it on every upstream release) | 12:32 |
| mok0 | I am not sure though bzr-buildpackage might move it to its build-area | 12:32 |
| apw | cjwatson, oh i was looking at platform.natty, to see what happened to it after it was changed | 12:32 |
| cjwatson | tumbleweed: "the most recent version" | 12:32 |
| apw | cjwatson, and it doesn't seem to have releases or tags, or indeed a changelog | 12:33 |
| tumbleweed | hmm, that is a point, still that's not what one normally wants | 12:33 |
| cjwatson | apw: phone, brb | 12:34 |
| apw | anyone seen 'different serializers' errors when pushing a new branch to launchpad ? | 12:41 |
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| cjwatson | apw: some packages use the seeds to generate dependencies and the like, for example the ubuntu-meta source package | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | apw: the changelog is 'bzr log' | 12:47 |
| apw | cjwatson, so used in consumer packages, but the branch itself is just a repo | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | correct | 12:49 |
| apw | cjwatson, looking at platform.natty there are a lot of arm kernels listed which i don't believe exist | 12:49 |
| apw | * Kernel-Version: 2.6.32-410-dove 2.6.37-12-omap 2.6.35-1101-omap4 2.6.31-800-st1-5 2.6.37-11-iop32x 2.6.37-10-ixp4xx 2.6.37-11-orion5x 2.6.37-12-versatile | 12:49 |
| apw | ixp4xx and orion5x particularly i am wondering about there | 12:50 |
| ogra | yeah, we need to clean that up at some point | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | it doesn't cause a problem though | 12:50 |
| ogra | ixp is a leftover from jaunty | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | iop32x as well | 12:50 |
| ogra | our first arm images were for nslu2 | 12:51 |
| ogra | yep | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | apw: BTW it's best to change those entries only in sync with a debian-installer upload | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | I usually just use sed | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | apw: if you want to do that in an hour's time (once the kernel's in the archive) by way of practice, I can merge/sponsor | 12:53 |
| apw | cjwatson, yeah i've been doing the d-i changes too (https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/debian-installer/kernel-update) for the practice | 12:53 |
| apw | cjwatson, thanks | 12:53 |
| cjwatson | sed -i 's/2.6.37-11/2.6.37-12/g' *installer* | 12:54 |
| cjwatson | apw: that's fine except that it's good practice to have the changelog say UNRELEASED instead of natty until it's actually uploaded | 12:55 |
| apw | cjwatson, oh yeah i pushed it after playing with debcommit -r, ooops | 12:56 |
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| apw | cjwatson, ok those binaries are now 'in', and i've also uploaded meta (not sure that you care for this), i've pushed the d-i changes here: https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/debian-installer/kernel-update and the platform.natty changes here: https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/ubuntu-seeds/platform.natty-kernel-update | 14:15 |
| pitti | cjwatson: re; looks fine; should I review it again? | 14:37 |
| pitti | ah, it's in the queue, doing | 14:40 |
| pitti | cjwatson: accepted | 14:42 |
| cjwatson | apw: thanks, will review in a minute then | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | pitti: great, thank you | 15:20 |
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| apw | cjwatson, whenever you have time, thanks :) | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | it isn't necessary for linux-meta to be in place before building a new installer, but it does mean that the installer will actually install the new kernel | 15:21 |
| benste | I'd need a review for https://code.launchpad.net/~benste/kdeedu/bugfix-lp-698056_b/+merge/45397 but kubuntu-dev list rejects my message | 15:32 |
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| pitti | Hah - "Committed revision 666." | 15:54 |
| * pitti says "All hail to the creator of Linux" before he gets a penalty card | 15:54 | |
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| shadeslayer | asac: poke ... around? | 16:03 |
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| asac | shadeslayer: whats up? | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | asac: hi, so i saw your post on android + Linaro | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | asac: and kubuntu has something called plasma-mobile running on the N900, is it possible to run that on my android device as well? ( HTC Desire ) | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | plasma-mobile is already in the archives | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | the only possible way right now is to boot a lucid chroot off my phone and install the binaries | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | from here : http://code.google.com/p/android-cruft/wiki/LucidWithAndroid | 16:06 |
| dholbach | debconf questions by keyboard-configuration? | 16:07 |
| dholbach | "Method for toggling between national and Latin mode" | 16:08 |
| dholbach | ??? | 16:08 |
| dholbach | :) | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | shouldn't ask new questions, that's a bug. | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | can you please STOP HERE | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | and capture /etc/default/console-setup before it overwrites it | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | and ideally also /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | then carry on and record all the questions it asks | 16:09 |
| dholbach | will do | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | it's odd because it should have copied that one from console-setup/toggle, looking at the code | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | though, hm, console-setup/toggle only used to be asked for non-Latin layouts | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | and that still ought to be the case, so for some reason it thinks you have a non-Latin layout | 16:12 |
| dholbach | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keyboard-configuration does not seem to exist? | 16:12 |
| Laney | source: console-setup | 16:12 |
| dholbach | oops | 16:12 |
| dholbach | sorry about that :) | 16:12 |
| hallyn | Daviey: would you mind taking a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/multipath-tools/backport-fixes/+merge/45410 if you get a chance? | 16:22 |
| asac | shadeslayer: hmm ... the problem are drivers/kernels etc. | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | asac: well ... cyanogenmod has the kernel source code ... and it works, so can we not use that? | 16:23 |
| dholbach | cjwatson, if there's any more information I can put into bug 698177, let me know | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 698177 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "keyboard-configuration asks debconf questions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/698177 | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | HTC Provides the kernel source code as well | 16:24 |
| asac | shadeslayer: the kernel might be a bit crippled, but it would be worth a try ;) | 16:24 |
| hallyn | cjwatson: (just fyi) since the sync is gonna take me a little while for multipath-tools, I'm trying to push the fixes I've got sitting around for exsting bugs to natty separatley first, since that seems to make sru easier afterwards. | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 16:25 |
| smoser | cjwatson, i now there isn't much information, but do you have thoughts on what might be causing bug 697493 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 697493 in grub2 (Ubuntu Natty) "invalid free in grub-mkrelpath" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697493 | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | dholbach: ok, will queue it up | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | hallyn: thanks | 16:40 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot cjwatson | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | smoser: can you reproduce it under valgrind? | 16:40 |
| smoser | i haven't tried, and i figured that was what you were going to ask :) | 16:40 |
| smoser | but i'm guessing that i can. | 16:40 |
| smoser | i was just hoping you'd say "oh, i know what changes would have caused that" | 16:41 |
| cjwatson | smoser: the most likely candidate is probably the btrfs patch, but I don't have a specific thing to point to there (having just read through it) | 16:43 |
| lool | pitti: Hey there | 16:53 |
| pitti | hey lool, bonne annee! ca va? | 16:53 |
| lool | pitti: I'm trying to track what happened with the linux-linaro-omap dbgsyms | 16:54 |
| lool | pitti: Ein frohes Jahr 2011 zu dir! :-) | 16:54 |
| lool | pitti: Going alright -- happy to see you next week :) | 16:54 |
| pitti | \o/ likewise | 16:54 |
| pitti | lool: so, they don't exist? | 16:54 |
| * pitti checks | 16:54 | |
| lool | pitti: The linux-linaro-omap upload log shows the dbgsym in the .changes, but they don't appear in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux-linaro-omap/ | 16:55 |
| lool | and linux-linaro-omap is in main for some reason | 16:55 |
| pitti | we currently have all kernel packages in main | 16:55 |
| lool | 17:54 < pm215> lool: is it expected that the dbgsym package doesn't appear in the Checksums-* sections? | 16:55 |
| pitti | lool: ah, it's new in natty | 16:55 |
| lool | pitti: I think similar issues occured in maverick, but I don't have specific packages to point out; yes, it's new in natty | 16:56 |
| pitti | lool: so, sometimes the ddeb retriever hangs a long time because a buildd's apache is acting up | 16:56 |
| pitti | in these cases I need to kill and manually restart it; also, there are other cases where the ddeb-retriever is dropping packages :-( | 16:56 |
| pitti | i. e. it's possible that it just fell through the cracks | 16:56 |
| * pitti really wants soyuz ddeb support *sigh* | 16:56 | |
| lool | pitti: How does one usually go with such issues? ping you? rt ticket? | 16:57 |
| pitti | lool: right, so it built around christmas | 16:57 |
| pitti | lool: ping me | 16:57 |
| pitti | lool: the buildds keep ddebs for 7 days | 16:57 |
| pitti | lool: so if a ddeb doesn't appear after build, I can rescue it within a week | 16:58 |
| pitti | but then it's gone :-/ | 16:58 |
| lool | I see | 16:58 |
| lool | pitti: Can you confirm that what happened was that the ddeb retriever was borken? | 16:58 |
| pitti | no, I can't | 16:58 |
| lool | pitti: Maybe we should send a weekly summary of ddeb copied to ddebs.u.c to some list of people so that we can react if it's empty? | 16:58 |
| pitti | "nothing last as long as a makeshift" | 16:59 |
| pitti | (which ddeb-retriever is) | 16:59 |
| lool | eh | 16:59 |
| pitti | wgrant: ^ OOI, is there an update for this? I thought soyuz got ddeb support ages ago, and it's 90% there? | 16:59 |
| pitti | lool: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ does have armel ddebs, so it's not a general problem with the hack for linux (earlier releases had broken package names) or armel | 17:02 |
| pitti | lool: so I'm afraid the only practical solution right now is to upload a rebuild, and then I watch what happens in the retriever | 17:03 |
| pitti | lool: I guess you want to update to .37 final anyway? | 17:03 |
| lool | pitti: Ok | 17:06 |
| lool | pitti: We will have other uploads, I'll try to think of pinging when it happens :-) | 17:07 |
| pitti | lool: merci | 17:07 |
| lool | pitti: i'll check with jcrigby to arrange that | 17:07 |
| lool | pitti: thanks to /you/! | 17:07 |
| pitti | lool: ah, now that macquarie is on lucid, I could even re-enable my timeout patch, to avoid the endless hangs | 17:10 |
| pitti | hardy's python didn't support that yet | 17:11 |
| pitti | lool: done | 17:13 |
| lool | pitti: thanks | 17:13 |
| pitti | lool: so, this ping was at least good to improve it in the future :) | 17:13 |
| lool | Eh | 17:14 |
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| pitti | tkamppeter: hah! I just got Jockey to install the Epson printer driver from the op.o repository, with all the GPG fingerprint and trusted repository checking \o/ | 17:22 |
| superm1 | pitti, hi. did you have thoughts about how you were planning on blocking nvidia and fglrx driver being offered in the live environment? I was hoping there will be a way to control this. at least for my purposes i'd like to have a way to make sure all drivers can still be offered in some fashion | 17:23 |
| pitti | superm1: I was going to add a two-liner to both handlers to check for /rofs/, and fail if it exists | 17:24 |
| pitti | superm1: so that you can still install wl, etc. | 17:24 |
| pitti | I think ev heroically fixed that initramfs update problem, so that should work again | 17:24 |
| pitti | superm1: what do you mean with "control"? | 17:25 |
| superm1 | pitti, well for my purposes i'd still like to offer them as potential targets when i run jockey during post install | 17:25 |
| pitti | superm1: there might also be a more elegant way with putting an empty modalias override file into /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/ for fglrx and nvidia in casper | 17:25 |
| pitti | superm1: what is "post install" in your case? | 17:26 |
| superm1 | pitti, but aren't they both now controlled by the debian package header for modaliases not the modaliases file? | 17:26 |
| pitti | superm1: wouldn't you call that in chroot /target ? | 17:26 |
| pitti | superm1: they are, but the modaliases/ dir is still supported | 17:26 |
| superm1 | pitti, so a blank file takes precendence? | 17:27 |
| pitti | superm1: you'd need to add a "reset nvidia" line to it to purge the ones collected from modinfo and the package headers | 17:27 |
| superm1 | oh but you're right that I do call the backend and jockey text in the chroot, so it is likely a moot point | 17:27 |
| superm1 | there would be no /rofs in that chroot | 17:27 |
| pitti | superm1: I don't know whether I got the ordering of those right, but I can ensure that this works | 17:27 |
| pitti | superm1: my thought | 17:27 |
| elif | Hi, how kickstart works ? it is translated to a preseed file ? what package source should I look for ? | 17:28 |
| pitti | superm1: we want to disable it because there's usually too little RAM to download all the pacakges, build and install them | 17:28 |
| superm1 | pitti, right, makes sense to me. then no worries from my side :) | 17:28 |
| pitti | superm1: in /target/ that's not a problem of course, and it should just work | 17:28 |
| pitti | superm1: ok, cool ;) | 17:28 |
| sm | g'day all. When might the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/67235 become available for regular maverick users ? | 17:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 67235 in totem (Ubuntu) "thumbnailer crashes on unfinished avi's or .oggs" [Medium,Invalid] | 17:31 |
| ebroder | pitti, superm1: there's no point in installing new X drivers in an actual live cd environment, since there's no persistance. but if you do a usb-creator install with persistance, then it does make sense | 17:42 |
| ebroder | and hopefully you have enough disk space in the persistance file and RAM to support doing that | 17:42 |
| superm1 | you'd need to reboot though for that to even work most likely | 17:42 |
| ebroder | so maybe the test should be more "if os.path.exists(/rofs") and 'persistant' not in open(' | 17:42 |
| ebroder | err... os.path.exists('/rofs') and 'persistant' not in open('/proc/cmdline').read() | 17:43 |
| superm1 | i doubt you'd be able to stop X, unload nouveau/radeon, load nvidia/fglrx safely | 17:43 |
| ebroder | superm1: rebooting is fine. there's code to pull the new initrd out of the aufs filesystem into /cdrom, so that should all work | 17:43 |
| barry | doko_: chinstrap:~barry/ethos* | 17:43 |
| * sm meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/672352 , oops | 17:48 | |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 672352 in eglibc (Ubuntu Maverick) "Assertion `_rtld_global_ro._dl_pagesize != 0' failed" [Undecided,Fix released] | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | sm: it looks as though it's available right now. libc6 | 2.12.1-0ubuntu10 | maverick-updates | amd64, armel, i386, powerpc | 17:52 |
| cjwatson | you do of course have to have updates enabled ... | 17:52 |
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| apw | cjwatson, has anything significant changes in grub graphics handing since 20101126 ? | 18:06 |
| cjwatson | apw: preferred VBE resolution detection; vt.handoff=7 | 18:08 |
| cjwatson | oh, and a fix for PCI probing, I suppose that's tangentially related | 18:09 |
| apw | cjwatson, so even when =text is deployed we would still have done more graphics fiddling | 18:09 |
| cjwatson | yes, though it ought to have been set back to VGA text | 18:09 |
| cjwatson | GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 should avoid the VBE resolution detection | 18:10 |
| apw | i think i'll punt till i can get my hands on the machine as it will be in dallas | 18:10 |
| sm | cjwatson: thanks, good to know | 18:12 |
| cjwatson | apw: *nod* | 18:12 |
| sm | cjwatson: any idea why that didn't show up on the bug page like maverick-proposed and natty ? | 18:14 |
| cjwatson | sm: not sure I understand your question | 18:16 |
| sm | launchpad-janitor posted on the bug page when the fix arrived in those repos/pools/releases, but not when it arrived in maverick-updates | 18:17 |
| cjwatson | actually, it posted when it arrived in -updates | 18:18 |
| cjwatson | it's just that the changelog was written when it was uploaded to -proposed, so says "maverick-proposed" | 18:18 |
| cjwatson | but that's misleading | 18:18 |
| sm | it sure is. I wonder if that's why I failed to help someone install it from -proposed recently | 18:19 |
| cjwatson | we remove things from -proposed after they reach -updates | 18:20 |
| cjwatson | you can see where something's published in Launchpad | 18:20 |
| cjwatson | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc in this case | 18:20 |
| sm | I had a little extra trouble figuring things out because the source and binary packages have difference names ? eglibc/libc6 I think | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | yes | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | but the bug URL you posted above had the source package name in, which is what you need in this case | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | in fact, just go to the bug page and follow the "Overview" link at the top | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | the eglibc source package produces quite a few binary packages - libc6 is just arguably the most important one of them | 18:22 |
| sm | I see.. clear now, and that's a useful link.. thanks! | 18:22 |
| cjwatson | there are development packages, cross-architecture stuff, ... | 18:22 |
| cody-somerville | cjwatson, You don't happen to know of a way off the top of your head to prevent cdrom being added to sources.list during d-i install? | 18:33 |
| cjwatson | cody-somerville: not OTTOMH, no, which isn't to say it's not possible | 18:34 |
| lifeless | pitti: still around per-chance? | 18:52 |
| pitti | lifeless: yes, but on the phone | 18:52 |
| lifeless | ok cool | 18:52 |
| lifeless | I'll type some stuff and you can reply whenever ;) | 18:52 |
| lifeless | I wanted to upload blobs to lp.net/+storeblob but the implementation in apport is a bit tightly coupled | 18:53 |
| lifeless | I found http://pypi.python.org/pypi/poster/ which isn't packaged | 18:53 |
| lifeless | *if* it gets packaged, would apport be able to switch to using that? [is there anything over and above a code-change at issue?] | 18:54 |
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| pitti | lifeless: apport/crashdb_impl/launchpad.py has a separate upload_blob() function; that doesn't work for you? | 18:54 |
| lifeless | pitti: apport isn't widely available e.g. on windows | 18:55 |
| pitti | lifeless: not a principal problem, just that I'd like to avoid yet another dependency | 18:55 |
| pitti | lifeless: ideally it'd go into launchpadlib (bug 315358) | 18:55 |
| lifeless | pitti: copying the code out seems undesirable (and the project I want it in is BSD anyhow) | 18:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315358 in Launchpad itself "Expose the storeblob service in API" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315358 | 18:55 |
| lifeless | pitti: sounds like you'd be happy if launchpadlib used posted and you use launchpadlib ? | 19:01 |
| pitti | lifeless: yes, that'd be fine | 19:02 |
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| Dawgmatix | I just cross compiled some libraries using the mingw32 toolchain for running on windows. these create files with a .dll.a and .la extensions. any ideas on how to use these with visual studio? | 19:29 |
| directhex | yikes... i'd be amazed if you could | 19:36 |
| Dawgmatix | i see | 19:39 |
| wgrant | pitti: DDEB support is 90% there. But disk space is not. | 19:58 |
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| bryceh | @pilot in | 20:04 |
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| ebroder | hmm...does unity on natty not like monitor resolution changes? | 20:13 |
| bryceh | ebroder, haven't tried it, but wouldn't surprise me if it's bugged | 20:21 |
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| cnd | I'm trying to use requestsync to request a sync of rinputd 1.0.4-1 which fixes ftbfs in natty for 1.0.3-6, for which the package was patched and reuploaded as 1.0.3-6ubuntu1 by someone else | 20:28 |
| cnd | I'm stuck trying to figure out if I should use the '-e' option of requestsync | 20:28 |
| cnd | " -e Use this after FeatureFreeze for non-bug fix syncs, changes | 20:29 |
| cnd | default subscription to the appropriate release team." | 20:29 |
| ebroder | cnd: no, we're not past featurefreeze | 20:29 |
| cnd | 1.0.4-1 fixes the ftbfs correctly, whereas 1.0.3-6ubuntu1 papers it over with a gcc switch | 20:29 |
| cnd | zurgh, I thought that said import freeze | 20:29 |
| cnd | ebroder, thanks! | 20:29 |
| bryceh | that option seems like something that ought to be automatically detected... | 20:30 |
| ebroder | is the release schedule actually listed in a machine parseable form anywhere? all i know of is the wiki page | 20:30 |
| bryceh | yeah don't think so. it ought to be though. | 20:31 |
| bryceh | probably could be hacked into launchpad and exposed through launchpadlib in some fashion | 20:32 |
| bryceh | (no I'm not volunteering!) | 20:32 |
| bryceh | hmm, a really easy approach would be to just provide a JSON version of the schedule at some official-ish url, that scripts could snag. THAT wouldn't be hard. | 20:33 |
| cnd | parse the wiki page? :) | 20:34 |
| bryceh | cnd, I think by 'machine parsable' he was excluding that option ;-) | 20:35 |
| cnd | heh | 20:35 |
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| mterry | kees, you still around? | 21:33 |
| kees | mterry: yup! | 21:34 |
| mterry | kees, I updated the glib2.0 packaging branch to fix bug 698131, but belatedly realized that glib2.0 isn't in the ubuntu-desktop set, so I couldn't push it | 21:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 698131 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "[Natty] New glib2.0_2.27.90-0ubuntu1 crashes gnome-panels" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/698131 | 21:34 |
| mterry | kees, can I impose upon you to do a quick review and push it for me? | 21:34 |
| kees | oh! sure thing | 21:34 |
| mterry | kees, (asking you since you commented on the bug :)) | 21:34 |
| mterry | kees, thanks! | 21:35 |
| kees | mterry: is the blank line 8 in debian/patches/series intentional? (not that it matters) | 21:36 |
| mterry | kees, huh, odd. I did an quilt import and quilt rename, didn't hand-edit it | 21:37 |
| kees | no worries, it was there from before. quilt just appended. | 21:37 |
| mterry | ah, that makes sense | 21:37 |
| kees | mterry: everything looks great. I'll upload it now. thanks for finding/fixing it! :) | 21:37 |
| mterry | kees, eh, seb128 pointed me at the patch, easy enough to download and stuff in the series. ;) | 21:38 |
| kees | :) | 21:38 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, still there? | 22:01 |
| kees | mterry: uploaded now. thanks again! | 22:08 |
| mterry | kees, cool | 22:08 |
| bdmurray | Amaranth: should bug 301174 really be triaged for compiz? | 22:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 301174 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Use proper sound event instead of system beep" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301174 | 22:53 |
| Amaranth | bdmurray: Yeah, we know of a way to work around the issue in compiz | 22:53 |
| Amaranth | bdmurray: upstream doesn't want to do it the straightforward way though so it hasn't happened yet :) | 22:53 |
| cjwatson | apw: version bump stuff all merged and uploaded now, belatedly | 23:25 |
| apw | cjwatson, thanks a lot | 23:44 |
| apw | cjwatson, just in time for the cds which will make the arm peeps happy | 23:45 |
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