[09:29] anyone can open the website ? ubuntu-manual.org ? [09:30] daker: it timed out for me. let me look into it. [09:30] ok [09:30] the server itself is online. [09:30] same for me [09:30] I can ssh into it. [09:32] daker: can you access http://kevin.godby.org/? it's on the same server. [09:32] godbyk, yes i can [09:33] daker: me, too. it's on the same machine. [09:33] still poking and prodding. [09:34] godbyk, O.o [09:34] Domain ID:D158475795-LROR [09:34] Domain Name:UBUNTU-MANUAL.ORG [09:34] Created On:28-Feb-2010 10:45:13 UTC [09:34] Last Updated On:12-Jul-2010 00:11:18 UTC [09:35] Expiration Date:28-Feb-2011 10:45:13 UTC [09:35] daker: seems like it's back up. [09:35] is it up for you now? [09:35] yes [09:35] 'kay. [09:35] not sure what the problem was. [09:35] I didn't do anything. [09:36] LoL [09:36] godbyk, Expiration Date:28-Feb-2011 10:45:13 UTC [09:36] it's going to expire the next month [09:36] I see that. [09:37] I think Ben's the registrant. [09:37] We'll have to see if he wants to continuing renewing it or if we need to find someone else to step up. [09:37] ok [15:19] is the build process for the developer manual broken at the moment? [15:20] i successfully built it some time ago, but just checked out latest and it barfs during building on the same machine [15:49] godbyk: ^^ [16:57] which packages to you have [16:57] for the dev manual you now need the upstream texlive packages [17:03] instructions for installing the toolchain are located here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/DeveloperManual/Toolchain [17:03] I'll be back later if you have further questions. [21:03] Hey, popey. Did you succeed in building the dev manual? [21:39] hey godbyk [21:42] hey, c7p. how's it going? [21:43] godbyk: nice we are updating the get involved pages with Patrick these days [21:45] regarding Tex Live, we should replace the Tex Live 2009 with Tex Live 2010 right ? or are we waiting for 2011 version ? [21:45] cool [21:45] the 2010 version came out just a few months ago. and the 2011 version won't be out until much later this year. [21:45] ok nice [21:45] (they usually aim to release in the summer, but it ends up being late fall before it happens.) [21:46] Also another question [21:46] :) [21:47] take a look on http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors, [21:47] 'kay. [21:48] on the Tex part, the minimun collections are those that are listed on page, right ? [21:49] godbyk: no, only tried once [21:49] c7p: I think so. But the install-pkgs.sh script should catch any that were missed. [21:50] c7p: be extra sure to enable the create symlinks option. [21:50] ok [21:51] popey: okay. well, I pulled the latest from bzr and ran 'make' and it worked okay here. if you're seeing any error messages, let me know. I'm happy to help you troubleshoot it. [21:54] godbyk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551245/ [21:54] popey: I think you have an old version of the csquotes package. [21:55] popey: are you using the tex live from upstream? [21:55] i think so [21:55] (if you're unsure, run 'which tlmgr'. if something shows up, you're using upstream.) [21:56] one mo /usr/local/bin/tlmgr [21:56] so i setup this box when the udm was first announced [21:56] not updated from upstream at all [21:56] popey: cool. okay, run 'sudo apt-get install perl-tk' [21:56] dont know how [21:56] then run 'sudo tlmgr --gui' [21:57] (Because, hey, who doesn't like a Tk GUI?) [21:57] uh [21:57] its a remote box [21:57] oh, okay. [21:57] we can do it on the command-line, too. [21:57] one sec. [21:57] cool [21:57] i can ssh -x if thats easier? [21:58] run 'sudo tlmgr update csquotes'. see if that works. [21:58] (I never use the command-line version, I guess.) [21:58] thats doing stuff.. [21:58] thanks godbyk [21:59] The release version of the installation source and the installation media [21:59] do not agree: source: 2010, media: 2009 [21:59] looks like 'sudo tlmgr update --all' will update all the installed packages. you should do that at some point, probably. [21:59] Please fix your location http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet at /usr/local/bin/tlmgr line 4205. [21:59] try the --all option. see if that works around it. [21:59] ok [22:00] same error from --all [22:00] 'kay. can we give the gui a try? (It does most of the behind the scenes.) [22:00] ya, one mo [22:10] bah, give up on that machine [22:10] will install on my desktop instead [22:11] 'kay. [22:12] or I'll just cron wgetting the manual from someone else :D [22:14] I think they're going go release draft PDFs regularly. [22:14] you might also try 'tlmgr update --self'. that'll update tlmgr itself first. [22:15] not sure if it'll get over the 2009/2010 transition though. [22:15] (I know the gui can, not sure how to do it on the cmd line right off.) [22:27] night all