[00:00] <akgraner> woo hoo meeting time
[00:00] <akgraner> #startmeeting
[00:00] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 00:00. The chair is akgraner.
[00:00] <Mootbot-UK> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[00:01] <akgraner> Welcome to the NC LoCo Team Meeting!
[00:01] <internalkernel> o/
[00:01] <akgraner> who is here to participate
[00:01] <akgraner> o/
[00:01] <akgraner> anyone else?  I'll give it a few more minutes - nudge or remind someone if ya need too :-)
[00:02] <akgraner> _marx_, alreadt said he wouldn't be able to attend but I am not sure about anyone else
[00:02] <akgraner> holstein, was here a minute ago
[00:03] <akgraner> anyone else?
[00:03] <holstein> o/
[00:03] <internalkernel> lol...
[00:04] <akgraner> Here is the agenda page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda
[00:04] <akgraner> [LINK] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda
[00:04] <Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda
[00:04] <holstein> SO we need to do something to get this loco happenin
[00:04] <holstein> maybe a meet up in the middle somewhere
[00:04] <akgraner> however the information listed seems out of date or overcome by events
[00:04] <akgraner> do we need to discuss anything there?
[00:05] <holstein> not that i see
[00:05] <internalkernel> We're kinda limpin along as a loco here...
[00:05] <akgraner> alrighty then I'll clear the agenda then
[00:06] <akgraner> [topic] increasing loco participation in 2011
[00:06] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  increasing loco participation in 2011
[00:06] <akgraner> ideas?
[00:06] <holstein> yeah, i was hoping spreading the meeting chair around would be a way to get new folk involved
[00:06] <holstein> maybe that has been a bad idea
[00:06] <holstein> NM
[00:06] <holstein> all that should be fine
[00:06] <internalkernel> I dont think its been a bad idea...
[00:06] <holstein> if we had something to do as a group
[00:07] <akgraner> I don't think it's a bad idea at all
[00:07] <holstein> you want to just plan something simple like a meet-up?
[00:07] <akgraner> I think we are missing major segments of the team
[00:07] <holstein> maybe in charlotte
[00:07] <akgraner> those who don't use IRC
[00:07] <internalkernel> we have firestorm, and a monthly LUG where Ubuntu is heavily represented...
[00:07] <internalkernel> I dont know what else to do aside from paying people
[00:08] <akgraner> nah what I mean is  - forums, mailing list and finding out who the contacts in the pocket locations are and making sure we are in contact with them
[00:08] <internalkernel> maybe there is a large user base in Charlotte, I would guess that is so - but how do we reach them...
[00:08] <holstein> the list is all i can handle
[00:09] <holstein> and we should all be subscribed if interested
[00:09] <internalkernel> I think for the most part Asheville seems to be the hub of the NC Loco - that and Raleigh/Durham out by Marx and Bugeyed
[00:09] <akgraner> holstein, so the mailing list can be your area for example
[00:09] <holstein> maybe we need a newletter? or something
[00:09] <akgraner> so ideas are
[00:09] <akgraner> [idea] - newsletter
[00:09] <Mootbot-UK> IDEA received:  - newsletter
[00:09] <akgraner> [idea] website
[00:09] <Mootbot-UK> IDEA received:  website
[00:10] <akgraner> [idea] - social media
[00:10] <Mootbot-UK> IDEA received:  - social media
[00:10] <holstein> we are way past making a new FB page
[00:10] <akgraner> [idea] - lug meetings
[00:10] <Mootbot-UK> IDEA received:  - lug meetings
[00:10] <holstein> i think we're good to go for that
[00:10] <akgraner> holstein, just listing all the options
[00:10] <holstein> just making a new one
[00:10] <holstein> right...
[00:10] <akgraner> crap that was my action item oops
[00:11] <akgraner> I'll just make one  :-/
[00:11] <akgraner> who used to come to the meetings from Charlotte?
[00:12] <holstein> Tronyx was for a bit
[00:12] <holstein> he's back in chicago though
[00:12] <akgraner> ahh ok
[00:12] <holstein> i see him around
[00:13] <akgraner> I think we are trying to be to fancy tight now - KIS method is what I am thinking
[00:13] <holstein> right
[00:13] <holstein> im with you
[00:13] <holstein> how about we do a FB page
[00:13] <holstein> after this meeting
[00:13] <akgraner> alrighty
[00:13] <holstein> and we email the list about it
[00:13] <internalkernel> works for me... I'll "Like it"
[00:13] <holstein> make some admins
[00:13] <akgraner> [ACTION] - holstein and akgraner to make a new FB page after meeting
[00:13] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  - holstein and akgraner to make a new FB page after meeting
[00:13] <holstein> FB or twitter
[00:13] <holstein> whatever
[00:14] <holstein> not both though i think
[00:14] <internalkernel> I think also maybe creating some mroe traffic on the list... I like the idea of a newsletter - but something that creates conversation...
[00:14] <akgraner> we have a twitter and identi.ca account
[00:14] <holstein> internalkernel: maybe tech segments?
[00:14] <holstein> something easy
[00:14] <holstein> we just try and fire out there
[00:14] <holstein> even if its just a link
[00:14] <holstein> "check this out"
[00:14] <akgraner> but really all someone needs to so is use #ubuntunc
[00:14] <internalkernel> yeah I was thinking along those lines...
[00:15] <internalkernel> somethign small and easy, of course - one or two topics at a time or several articles around the same topic...
[00:15] <holstein> whats ubuntunc?
[00:15] <akgraner> a one page newsletter (once a month to start) would be easy
[00:15] <holstein> #ubuntunc?
[00:15] <internalkernel> ?
[00:15] <holstein> you mean here?
[00:15] <akgraner> the team hashtag for twitter and identi.ca
[00:15] <holstein> if theres YA irc channel i might cry :/
[00:15] <holstein> AH
[00:15] <holstein> ok :)
[00:16] <akgraner> make sense?
[00:16] <holstein> yup
[00:16] <akgraner> so that's taken care of
[00:16] <holstein> OK
[00:16] <holstein> i think the newsletter might be a bit much right now
[00:16] <holstein> we'd need an orginanizer and all that
[00:16] <holstein> and content finders
[00:16] <akgraner> internalkernel, we can use mailchimp (I have an account) and do a simple one page newsletter if you want
[00:17] <holstein> maybe put that in the 'for later' catagory?
[00:17] <akgraner> people who subscribe can choose the format as well - mobile, html, or text only
[00:17] <holstein> im with you guys though..
[00:17] <internalkernel> sounds good to me, let's plan to have a newsletter format put together by the next release?
[00:17] <holstein> no need to put it to a vote
[00:17] <akgraner> alrighty!  we can just get the template etc all in place and ready to roll out in April
[00:18] <holstein> i like it
[00:18] <akgraner> [ACTION] internalkernel, holstein, akgraner (and whoever else wants to help) roll out Team Newsletter in April
[00:18] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  internalkernel, holstein, akgraner (and whoever else wants to help) roll out Team Newsletter in April
[00:18] <internalkernel> sweet... we have purpose!
[00:19] <akgraner> hey guys - if someone else is doing something bigger and better in their area we don't want them to stop we just want to be able to tell people what they are doing
[00:19] <internalkernel> absolutely...
[00:20] <akgraner> so if you hear of something make sure we let the ML, forums, and IRC folks know - we can come up with where on the wiki's to add that content later
[00:20] <akgraner> the wiki's need a facelift as well - but we can set that as a goal for the next Ubuntu Global Jam
[00:20] <holstein> cool
[00:20] <akgraner> (whenever that is  - I don't know off the top of my head)
[00:21] <internalkernel> didnt we determine we had a "wiki maintainer"
[00:21] <akgraner> [ACTION] - team wiki clean up next Ubuntu Global Jam weekend
[00:21] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  - team wiki clean up next Ubuntu Global Jam weekend
[00:21] <internalkernel> or wiki team
[00:21] <internalkernel> I have to say gnight to the little one - brb
[00:21] <holstein> prolly the 3 of us ;)
[00:22] <akgraner> internalkernel, yeah - but you know life happens lets not hold a hard line to that  - whomever wants to contribute and can well  - let's encourage them
[00:24] <akgraner> holstein, does that make sense to you?
[00:26] <akgraner> agenda page is clear and ready for next meeting! woo hoo!
[00:26] <akgraner> you guys back yet?
[00:27] <holstein> sorry
[00:27] <holstein> phone
[00:27] <holstein> yeah
[00:27] <holstein> im ing
[00:27] <holstein> in*
[00:28] <holstein> might be nice to have a wiki overlord though
[00:28] <akgraner> :-)
[00:28] <holstein> someone to crack the whip a bit if needed
[00:28] <holstein> and just make it known that anyone can contribute
[00:28] <holstein> which that should already be known
[00:28] <holstein> WELL, ideally, will just get more traffic
[00:28] <holstein> and none of this will matter anways
[00:29] <holstein> it'll just work itself out
[00:29] <holstein> :)
[00:29] <akgraner> :-)
[00:29] <holstein> akgraner: you want to set up the FB?
[00:29] <akgraner> just wanted to plant the idea that we need to update the pages - I know I'll do what I can when I can
[00:30] <holstein> akgraner: i do 'create group' right?
[00:30] <akgraner> yeppers
[00:30] <holstein> i'll get it going
[00:30] <akgraner> just add a couple more people than you as admin
[00:30] <holstein> akgraner: what do we call it?
[00:30] <holstein> akgraner: i'll add you in a minute
[00:30] <akgraner> holstein, what is the other one called
[00:31] <holstein> LoCo Ubuntu NorthCarolina
[00:31] <holstein> Ubuntu NC LoCo
[00:31] <akgraner> crap there are a lot of people signed up for that one
[00:32] <holstein> yup
[00:32] <holstein> we can put this one on the front page there though several times
[00:33] <holstein> akgraner: we almost have to now
[00:33] <holstein> we voted :/
[00:33] <akgraner> yep we'll figure it out
[00:33] <akgraner> I remember
[00:33] <holstein> privacy open?
[00:33] <holstein> members are public
[00:33] <holstein> thats what we want right?
[00:33] <akgraner> yep - Do Ubuntu NC LoCo Team
[00:33] <akgraner> open yes
[00:34] <akgraner> thanks holstein - one less action item on the list!
[00:36] <akgraner> So for those who are here in the meeting - what expectations do you have of the LoCo team?  Doesn't matter what the idea is let's add it to the list of goals and see how we can meet those expectations and goals
[00:37] <holstein> this look right?http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_182815061748094
[00:37] <holstein> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_182815061748094
[00:37] <Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_182815061748094
[00:38] <akgraner> cool - just grab the logo and stuff and make it a page you want to send people to
[00:38] <akgraner> to find out about the team and Ubuntu and all that stuffs
[00:39] <holstein> akgraner: make you an admin so you can do what?
[00:39] <holstein> ;)
[00:39] <holstein> i'll get some admins going
[00:39] <holstein> and make it happen
[00:39] <akgraner> cause trouble and stir up stuff :-)
[00:40] <holstein> there we go
[00:40] <holstein> akgraner and internalkernel powered up :)
[00:40] <akgraner> I don't need to be - just wanted to make sure there were 2 or 3 people instead of just one
[00:40] <holstein> i think since the last issue
[00:40] <holstein> the more the merrier
[00:40] <holstein> i'll catch _marx_ later
[00:41] <holstein> and whoever else
[00:41] <akgraner> holstein, did you see my question  - when you mentioned brainstorming earlier...
[00:41]  * internalkernel catching up... sorry... 
[00:41] <akgraner> what would you like to see the LoCo team become
[00:41] <akgraner> What kinds of things make you want to participate - not just you but anyone following along
[00:42] <holstein> just more connected i think
[00:42] <internalkernel> sweet...
[00:42] <holstein> maybe some activities in the name of the LoCo
[00:42] <holstein> put that banner to use
[00:42] <akgraner> without some kinda goals we are out in Limbo
[00:43] <akgraner> not end all be all goals - just what you'd like to get out of the group but aren't at them moment
[00:44] <internalkernel> thats a good point... and I like the developing of community aspect of it...
[00:44] <internalkernel> and its always a good time to turn someone onto Ubuntu...
[00:44] <akgraner> I know for me - If I am not excited about participating in something, or I don't feel connect, I know I won't represent a team or project well
[00:45] <internalkernel> yeah, exactly... and I like that excitement...
[00:45] <akgraner> connected even (sorry I can't spell tonight)
[00:45] <internalkernel> for some reaason my irc client refuses to autocomplete anyones name...
[00:45] <internalkernel> I know the feeling...
[00:46] <akgraner> so how about an action item/survey about what people want from teams - what is their motivation paycheck they get from being part of it etc
[00:46] <akgraner> I can create the survey this weekend - can one of you all send it out etc
[00:47] <internalkernel> Yeah I can send it out, we can post the results and maybe start a conversation going...
[00:47] <akgraner> I'd just like to see what people's expectations are, and what we are doing well, and what we need to improve upon etc
[00:47] <akgraner> internalkernel, exactly
[00:48] <holstein> w00t
[00:48] <akgraner> So I think we have some solid goals to build upon now?  Thoughts
[00:49] <internalkernel> I need an emoticon for a thumbs up...
[00:49] <internalkernel> that would be useful...
[00:49] <akgraner> I hope I don't sound bossy... or anything
[00:50] <internalkernel> not at all, i think we're on teh same page here
[00:50] <akgraner> great
[00:50] <internalkernel> I think we need to check in with the community at large - the community being the people that respond to the survey...
[00:50] <holstein> nah
[00:50] <akgraner> so _marx_ is set to chair the next meeting right?
[00:50]  * holstein +1
[00:50] <internalkernel> and we'll go from there...
[00:50] <holstein> :)
[00:50] <holstein> yup
[00:50] <holstein> _marx_ is next
[00:51] <akgraner> anything else before we end the meeting?
[00:51] <internalkernel> ::thumbs up::
[00:51] <internalkernel> thats all I got...
[00:51] <holstein> nope
[00:51] <akgraner> Thanks everyone and if there is nothing else...
[00:51] <akgraner> #endmeeting
[00:51] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 00:51.
[00:52] <akgraner> I've missed you all!
[00:52] <holstein> very PRO-ductive
[00:52] <akgraner> I am so glad I could make it tonight!
[00:52]  * holstein hugs akgraner 
[00:52] <holstein> me too
[00:53] <akgraner> alrighty  - I have some work to do now - but I'll try to get everything added and sent to the list by tomorrow evening
[00:53] <akgraner> is that ok with you all?
[00:54] <holstein> akgraner: works for me
[00:54] <holstein> ping me if i can help
[00:54] <akgraner> holstein, internalkernel  - I have to go to VA (oteen) next week so I'll plan on spending the whole day in the area
[00:54] <internalkernel> sounds good...
[00:54] <internalkernel> wheres oteen?
[00:54] <internalkernel> lol
[00:54] <akgraner> :-P
[00:55] <internalkernel> I'll figure it out, just email... I have plenty of time - but with one car I have limited range...
[00:55] <akgraner> so hopefully I'll be in and out of there before lunch on Thursday
[00:55] <akgraner> no worries - if I need to I'll play taxi and pick ya up
[00:55] <internalkernel> we can work something out... thanks...
[00:55] <akgraner> on that sounds horrible you know what I meant right?
[00:57] <internalkernel> lol... why would you go there...
[00:57] <internalkernel> I didnt get much sleep last night...
[00:58] <internalkernel> Im relatively delirious
[01:03] <akgraner> Veterans Hospital is there
[01:03] <akgraner> and I need to get re-evaluated and all that good stuffs
[01:04] <akgraner> I have a couple service related injuries that they need to take care of
[12:50] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[14:43] <JackWat> hi ShootEmUp