[01:56] <greyfox1> POP QUIZ, HOTSHOTS
[01:57] <Cheri703> oh?
[01:57] <greyfox1> I need to file a bug--my laptop monitor brightness works, but not at boot. Only after I suspend & resume once. After that it's fine.
[01:57] <greyfox1> What package do I file that against?
[01:57] <greyfox1> A cookie for anyone who knows
[01:58] <Cheri703> hmmm...kernel perhaps? perhaps a bios issue?
[01:58] <greyfox1> The kernel? Intel drivers?
[02:01] <Cheri703> I'd vote for kernel...or power manager?
[02:01] <Unit193> What program do/can you use to configure it?
[02:02] <greyfox1> Configure what, exactly? The screen? Just the default "monitor preferences" dialog.
[02:02] <Cheri703> the suspend/resume settings are in power manager
[02:03] <Cheri703> I'd say kernel
[02:03] <Cheri703> the thought on power manager was because perhaps there is some box that gets ticked after a suspend/resume, but I dunno
[02:04] <greyfox1> Hmm, I'll have a look at that. I don't think anything there could affect the fn keys, though.
[02:04] <greyfox1> brb
[02:04] <Cheri703> hmm...longshot, but try a different keyboard layout? or assign fn to something else?
[02:04] <Cheri703> ok
[02:13] <greyfox1> Ok, so nothing apparently amiss with the power mgmt dialog.
[02:14] <Cheri703> :/ ok
[02:14] <greyfox1> Here's something interesting: when I first boot, xev reports nothing when I press fn+f6/f7 (brightness up/down)
[02:14] <greyfox1> but once I suspend/resume, I get plenty of output from xev like i'd expect. Hmm
[02:14] <greyfox1> Wish I knew exactly what this means. I guess kernel sounds like a good idea? Hmm
[02:15]  * Cheri703 likes chocolate chip
[02:15] <Cheri703> :D
[02:15] <greyfox1> haha, well played!
[02:16] <greyfox1> Maybe at OLF this year :)
[02:17] <Cheri703> heh, sounds good :)
[02:18] <greyfox1> Oh shoot, check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[02:18] <greyfox1> found that link in another bug report about hotkeys. Looks like troubleshooting can be a mess
[02:18] <Cheri703> :(
[02:18] <Cheri703> what model of laptop?
[02:19] <greyfox1> Toshiba satellite a305-s6857
[02:19] <greyfox1> Weird thing is, this only just started with 10.10
[02:19] <greyfox1> before, they would NEVER work
[02:19] <greyfox1> so, I'm a little better off at least
[02:19] <Cheri703> :/ so you're halfway there?
[02:19] <greyfox1> right
[02:19] <greyfox1> :D
[02:22]  * Cheri703 is attempting to troubleshoot an ipod tonight
[02:22] <greyfox1> Oh yeah? What's the skinny?
[02:23] <Cheri703> was given to us, cuts out after a few songs, stops playing. I think it's overheating. it has a short battery life, but there is still charge when it does it. I'm willing to replace the battery, but only after I know it's not horribly damaged in some other way
[02:23] <Cheri703> I just popped it open, charging it now
[02:24] <greyfox1> You mean you didn't take it to an authorized Apple Genius (TM) ?@!?!
[02:24] <Cheri703> it's old
[02:24] <Cheri703> coworker gave it to my brother who gave it to us
[02:24] <Cheri703> 5th generation video ipod
[02:24] <greyfox1> Heh, I have one of those.
[02:24] <greyfox1> 30GB
[02:24] <greyfox1> black
[02:25] <Cheri703> yep
[02:25] <Cheri703> does it crap out?
[02:26] <greyfox1> No, nary a problem with it actually.
[02:26] <Cheri703> well, that's good :)
[02:26] <greyfox1> Yeah
[02:26] <greyfox1> I've been really gentle with it
[02:26] <Cheri703> I can't remember, do you dual-boot your computer? there was someone who does
[02:26] <greyfox1> Nope
[02:26] <Cheri703> probably good
[02:26] <Cheri703> ok
[02:27] <greyfox1> I'm proud to say I haven't needed to dual boot in years. I use a VM occasionally but that's it
[02:27] <Cheri703> nice
[02:27] <Cheri703> the other night I set up an older compaq (inherited from parents) as a potentially headless dual-boot
[02:28] <greyfox1> Ooh, interesting! I've never tried that. How did it go?
[02:28] <Cheri703> had a compaq OEM XP Pro cd, so figured I would take advantage of it
[02:28] <Cheri703> it's awesom
[02:28] <Cheri703> e
[02:28] <Cheri703> I just ssh'd into the ubuntu side and rebooted it into windows, now installing updates and such :)
[02:29] <greyfox1> Very cool. SSH is one of those things that is perpetually on my to-do list that I never get around to.
[02:29] <greyfox1> So, I'm slightly jealous.
[02:29] <Cheri703> I have it set up for vnc as well :)
[02:29] <Cheri703> SSH IS WONDERFUL
[02:30] <Cheri703> I love it
[02:30] <Cheri703> especially ssh -x
[02:30] <Cheri703> use that ALL the time
[02:30] <greyfox1> what do you use it for?
[02:30] <greyfox1> I mean, you personally
[02:30] <greyfox1> not what is it for in general
[02:31] <Cheri703> I use ssh -x for gnucash...it lets me keep one file in one place and I can update it from anywhere. also changing settings in things that aren't convenient from cli, I also use regular ssh for installing software, updates, etc
[02:32] <Cheri703> my next thing on the list is to use screen
[02:36] <greyfox1> That's great. I think I need to get going on stuff like that.
[02:36] <Cheri703> also useful for connecting to network drives, can just do "connect to server" and it'll connect
[03:56] <canthus13> hmm.. I think I'm gonna try grml.
[03:56] <canthus13> http://grml.org
[03:58] <Cheri703> nice
[04:00] <canthus13> Seeing as it's based on debian, it shouldn't be too hard to use.
[04:01] <canthus13> wow.  I've got torrents jamming up my connection to the point where ssh between my laptop and my server is choking up.
[04:01] <Cheri703> heh
[04:07]  * canthus13 thought he had that throttled.
[04:07] <canthus13> Dunno why I was hitting 3.6MB/sec. :P
[04:08] <canthus13> I set it to 2.8.
[04:08] <Cheri703> heh
[04:08] <canthus13> You're starting to sound like me there...
[04:09]  * Cheri703 is amused
[04:10] <Cheri703> and I may have fixed that ipod
[04:10]  * Cheri703 chuckles, but rarely l's-o-l
[04:10]  * Cheri703 also hates it when people put OMG I LOLD or whatever...it's L'D O L
[04:10] <Cheri703> no one laugh out louds or laugh out louded
[04:18]  * canthus13 laughs out louded.
[04:18]  * Cheri703 's brain exploded
[04:18]  * canthus13 grins.
[04:22]  * canthus13 has heard someone say 'lol' out loud before....
[04:22] <Cheri703> yeah, I've heard it a few times
[04:23] <Cheri703> part of me dies inside
[04:23] <canthus13> time to watch the Dr. Who christmas episode...
[04:23] <Cheri703> did you hear david tennant is marrying a woman who played his daughter and is actually the daughter of a previous dr who?
[04:23] <canthus13> Eh? No...
[04:26] <canthus13> Hmm.. unconfirmed rumor at the moment, it looks like.
[04:27] <Cheri703> hang on, let me find the link I got
[04:27] <Cheri703> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1343909/David-Tennant-marry-Georgia-Moffett-daughter-ex-Doctor-Who-Peter-Davison.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
[04:28] <Cheri703> friend in uk sent it to me
[04:28]  * canthus13 never trusts british tabloids jounalism as a primary source.
[04:28] <canthus13> The daily mail is about like the Enquirer.
[04:29] <Cheri703> well, sure
[04:29] <Cheri703> dunno
[04:29] <Cheri703> still funny, either way he's marrying the daughter of a doctor...his or the other one
[04:33] <canthus13> True.
[04:38] <Cheri703> got 30+ minutes of playing from ipod, previous max was 15 minutes, and that was only once, after that 5 or less
[04:38] <Cheri703> charging it now to see total potential battery/playing time