[01:08] <vychune> hello?
[01:09] <linuxman410> hey
[01:10] <vychune> how you doing
[01:10] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[01:10] <cyberanger> hey linuxman410
[01:10] <vychune> hello again
[01:10] <linuxman410> doing ok and you
[01:10] <vychune> good
[01:10] <linuxman410> hey cyberanger
[01:11] <vychune> cyberanger my normal ubuntu partition conked out on me
[01:11] <vychune> im now using peppermint
[01:12] <vychune> my ubuntu is now minty fresh lol
[01:12] <linuxman410> peppermint is ok i tried it out
[01:12] <vychune> im loving it
[01:12] <linuxman410> i am using fedora 14 right now
[01:13] <vychune> booooooo lol
[01:13] <vychune> i tried to use it and it panicked on me
[01:14] <linuxman410> i have been using ubuntu since 5.10 and fedora since it first came out
[01:14] <vychune> wow thats cool
[01:14] <vychune> how was 5.10 by the way?
[01:15] <linuxman410> my  first linux was mandrake 7.0
[01:15] <linuxman410> 5.10 was ok but flaky to me
[01:15] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I think I had used 4.10, my first install was 5.04
[01:16] <linuxman410> i still have 5.10 cd from ubuntu you want one
[01:16] <cyberanger> took alot of changelog reviews and such, had a hard time figuring that out
[01:17] <linuxman410> i bought 10 of them at a thrift store sentimental value
[01:17] <cyberanger> naw, lucid and maverick suits me fine
[01:17] <vychune> nope im goooooooood lol
[01:17] <linuxman410> tried natty out thought it was no good i hope it gets better
[01:18] <vychune> nattys not looking so good
[01:18] <vychune> what are you guys up to/
[01:20] <cyberanger> Debian Sid >:-)
[01:20] <vychune> ???
[01:20] <vychune> lol
[01:20] <linuxman410> i am just now getting fedora back on my laptop it is updating now if natty does not get better will have to change to something else
[01:20] <cyberanger> that's my current meddling atm
[01:20] <vychune> smh
[01:20] <cyberanger> aka Debian Unstable
[01:21] <linuxman410> i have debian 6 on my desktop
[01:21] <cyberanger> that and configuring another opennic server or two
[01:22] <vychune> opennic huh i think i know what that does but could you still tell me lol
[01:22] <cyberanger> Opennic is an alternate DNS service
[01:22] <linuxman410> i am running crunchbang 10 on a 500mhz laptop with 128 ram and it flies
[01:22] <cyberanger> I currently host a public server (tier 2)
[01:23] <vychune> crunchbang? and wow a public server cool
[01:23] <linuxman410> cyberanger what is on your server
[01:23] <chris4585> crunchbang is pure awesomeness
[01:23] <cyberanger> I use bind9 for it
[01:23] <vychune> im trying to start a social network myself
[01:23] <cyberanger> yes, crunchbang is awesome
[01:24] <vychune> what is crunchbang? a desktop enviorment?
[01:24] <cyberanger> linuxman410: bind9 for dns, apache2 for an httpd server, squid as a cacheing proxy
[01:24] <linuxman410> crunchbang has very low hardware requirments and runs great
[01:25] <linuxman410> cool cyberanger
[01:25] <vychune> oh openbox huh looks good
[01:25] <cyberanger> http://crunchbanglinux.org/
[01:25] <chris4585> crunchbang is a remix using openbox
[01:25] <chris4585> it uses debian now right?
[01:25] <vychune> hello chris4585 and thanks
[01:25] <linuxman410> yeah 10 uses debian 6
[01:25] <cyberanger> eh, the starlter alpha does
[01:26] <linuxman410> it is not alpha no more
[01:26] <cyberanger> and they dropped the older ones finaly
[01:26] <cyberanger> and they dropped the older ones finally
[01:26] <cyberanger> linuxman410: yeah, just saw that, cool
[01:26] <chris4585> personally that doesn't appeal to me, I'd rather have ubuntu base but meh, I'd rather just set it up how I want it
[01:26] <cyberanger> and I don't run much on apache atm, just a pac file really
[01:26] <cyberanger> I need to build it out more
[01:27] <cyberanger> esp. http://www.zachgibbens.geek
[01:27] <cyberanger> no point having an opennic doman be that bland
[01:27] <vychune> .geek? lol
[01:29] <chris4585> why does zach gibbens sound familiar?
[01:29] <linuxman410> it does not have nothing says domain not found when i type it in
[01:29] <cyberanger> chris4585: ahem
[01:30] <cyberanger> <--
[01:30] <chris4585> ah thats why
[01:30] <chris4585> well I have another friend with a similar name I think
[01:30] <cyberanger> linuxman410: opennic domain
[01:31] <cyberanger> linuxman410: http://www.opennicproject.org/
[01:34] <cyberanger> I need to get my ICANN domain going too
[01:35] <vychune> i got  one chestpaint.com but nothings on it
[01:35] <linuxman410> still waiting on diaspora
[01:36] <cyberanger> linuxman410: why, I've ran it fine
[01:36] <cyberanger> and so have others
[01:38] <linuxman410> be back have to restart
[01:39] <vychune> hey cyberanger im trying to do a socail network any suggestions?
[01:43] <cyberanger> create one?
[01:43] <vychune> lol
[01:43] <vychune> http://www.chestpaint.com
[01:45] <linuxman410> new version of peppermint out today
[01:47] <linuxman410> i went into peppermint os irc channel for support and no one in there uses it i mean wow
[01:48] <linuxman410> most of them use linuxmint or ubuntu
[01:48] <chris4585> linuxman410, whats so surprising about that?
[01:49] <linuxman410> i just figured if you are going to support why not use it
[01:50] <linuxman410> does not say a whole lot for the os if the support team does not use it
[01:53] <linuxman410> debian and redhat started it all almost every distro is based on one of them
[01:55] <cyberanger> almost, heh, like slackware, arch?
[01:55] <linuxman410> i said almost not all
[01:56] <cyberanger> and what if the disto is better than the souce ;-)
[01:57] <cyberanger> fedora, like redhat, just suck less
[01:57] <cyberanger> centos, like redhat, just free and open source
[01:57] <linuxman410> just means it improves as it spreads
[01:58] <cyberanger> at what point though do you have to change to not be based off of it though
[01:59] <chris4585> cyberanger, I'd say if you create a new package format is the only real requirement
[02:00] <chris4585> just my opinion
[02:28] <vychune> woow i missed a lot lol
[02:28] <vychune> but its a great live cd distro
[03:56]  * wrst really needs to get battery backup
[17:12] <Svpernova09> I need to prep a drive for resale, it's had some personal info on it, you guys have any suggestions for something free that'll overwrite it a few times?
[17:12] <cyberanger> dban
[17:12] <pace_t_zulu> dban ftw
[17:13] <Svpernova09> See, I knew you guys wouldn't let me down :_D
[17:13] <cyberanger> http://www.dban.org/
[17:14] <cyberanger> also, there's wipe http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15037/use-an-ubuntu-live-cd-to-securely-wipe-your-pcs-hard-drive/
[17:18] <cyberanger> (If I didn't allways have a boot disc with dban on it, I'd still have an ubuntu live disc on me and hopefully a data connection, but since I keep them both nearby, I can choose)
[17:22] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: plenty of options, but dban is probally the simplest
[17:23] <Svpernova09> Coo, running dban on it now. Thanks
[17:25] <cyberanger> personally, for secure deletion, I'm a fan of a thermite charge, but that might just be due to the pyrotechnics, a lot more visual effects ;-)
[17:25] <Svpernova09> lol
[17:25] <Svpernova09> Boss's Daughter's laptop, they're gonna ebay it when I'm done.
[18:44] <chris4585> hrm weird, I ticked the 3d support for virtualbox but doesn't seem to be working...
[18:44] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: you need to reinstall the guest additions after ticking 3d support
[18:44] <pace_t_zulu> again, make sure you have vbox 4.0
[18:45] <chris4585> ah
[18:45] <chris4585> yeah I have 4.0
[18:51] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, any idea how to show the menu bar? I somehow hid it...
[18:56] <chris4585> nvm I got it
[19:15] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: so you have unity running in vbox?
[19:17] <chris4585> yep
[19:17] <chris4585> no updates yet though, have to wait until 2am
[19:19] <cyberanger> don't you just love hughesnet so much you wanna take it outside with a tall sturdy tree and sturdy rope
[19:20] <chris4585> yes!
[19:20] <chris4585> I think we need a new dish actually...
[19:20] <chris4585> or something, lately it just seems to be getting worse
[19:22] <cyberanger> chris4585: that's not a bad idea, what's your modem? hn7000s ?
[19:24] <chris4585> hn9000
[19:24] <chris4585> at the time I think it was the new one
[19:25] <cyberanger> that sucks
[19:28] <cyberanger> that means it's a Ka band system, spotbeam technology
[19:28] <cyberanger> and as such, all issues must go through hughesnet
[19:30] <cyberanger> whearas the older Ku band gear, or gear that can do both, like the HN7000s
[19:30] <cyberanger> can be maintained by the customer (despite discourgement from hughesnet)
[19:31] <cyberanger> around here they'll try and give you a .74 meter dish, when it'd be better for some to use a .98 meter or bigger dish
[19:32] <chris4585> ah
[19:33] <cyberanger> more tolerable with bad weather
[19:33] <cyberanger> can really hold onto a signal too
[19:34] <cyberanger> (the same applies to the system you have, but you can't sidestep hughesnet easily on the matter)
[19:37] <cyberanger> that's why I like my system (of course I like it sitting in storage even more, celluar dsl and cable oh my)
[19:40] <cyberanger> oh how I'm glad the worst of that is behind me
[19:41] <chris4585> hopefully this march? we might be able to work something out with the cable company down here
[19:45] <cyberanger> what's the current issue
[19:45] <cyberanger> and would celluar work in the mean time
[19:55] <cyberanger> I'm glad for alot of the tricks I learned for celluar and satellite
[19:56] <cyberanger> really works out nicely
[19:58] <cyberanger> main one is running a squid proxy that all machines on the local network use
[19:59] <cyberanger> and with enough machines using ubuntu and current storage prices, run a local mirror
[20:00] <cyberanger> but that's the main two
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> new indicator showed up in ubuntu today http://i54.tinypic.com/2eamh6t.png
[20:06] <pace_t_zulu> http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/evolution-of-ubuntu-over-years-brief.html#
[20:06] <pace_t_zulu> ^ evolution of ubuntu
[20:50] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, thats cool
[20:50] <chris4585> indicators <3
[21:09] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: you going to be at the meeting? today I will
[21:09] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i plan to
[21:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i've been doing my best to always be there
[21:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: anything to put on the agenda?
[21:10] <cyberanger> all unforseen events better be becuase my place is on fire or flodded today
[21:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: that didn't make much sense to me
[21:12] <cyberanger> the past two or three meetings I've missed due to some unforseen event that wan't worth the troublee
[21:12] <cyberanger> so it's just me venting
[21:13] <cyberanger> as for the adgenda, plan some meetings for the new year, maybe an installfest
[21:14] <cyberanger> there isn't much on my mind
[21:15] <cyberanger> I' going to chattacon on behalf of the loco again
[21:15] <cyberanger> computer gaming is xubuntu rigs, I plan on testing my install fest setup on updating them
[21:17] <cyberanger> gotta update our application and add us to the adgenda this month
[21:18] <cyberanger> I requested time off that day, but I'd like some of the other leaders there too
[21:19] <cyberanger> that's all I'm aware of
[21:19] <cyberanger> anything else we need to add?
[21:20] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu:
[21:20] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: sorry i missed all that
[21:21] <cyberanger> oh, was just metioning what I'm aware of
[21:21] <cyberanger> anything you've got to add?
[22:01] <wrst> cyberanger I may or may not be there tonight prob be travelling back from a funeral during the meeting
[22:08] <cyberanger> wrst: my condolences
[22:08] <cyberanger> err, send them my condolences
[22:08]  * cyberanger is getting a little tired here, long day
[22:10] <cyberanger> any loss like that is hard to deal with
[22:17] <wrst> thanks cyberanger
[23:40] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i just remembered i might not make the meeting
[23:40] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: going out to dinner - birthday dinner
[23:40] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: unlikely to be home in time
[23:56] <cyberanger> oh, well...Happy Birthday then