[00:04] <h00k> playing some Lugaru through again
[00:46] <h00k> and now I'm playing with ruby.
[00:57] <h00k> nickmoeck: how about you?
[01:52] <h00k> hello, there
[01:57] <h00k> So, is anyone around for the meeting? DavidLevin jrolland-ubuntu lostson mikeputnam nickmoeck ripps?
[01:58] <timtierney> h00k, I'm here.  :p
[01:59] <h00k> sweet. two people.
[02:00] <h00k> anyone else?
[02:02] <h00k> timtierney: I suppose I won't waste your time...unless you have anything to bring up?
[02:02] <h00k> I want to do more things :(
[02:03] <timtierney> h00k, I have no idea......
[02:03] <h00k> yotux: hello there!
[02:03] <timtierney> h00k, Its better then listening to this lecture.
[02:03] <h00k> timtierney: Hah
[02:04] <yotux> hello: everyone
[02:04] <timtierney> yotux, Hey there.
[02:04] <h00k> yotux: it's you, myself, and timtierney.
[02:04] <h00k> so far, apparently.
[02:05] <h00k> and exigraff.
[02:05] <h00k> so, to keep it light because of the attendance, there's a few things that would be good to talk about
[02:05] <exigraff> ah, /topic says I'm early though
[02:05] <exigraff> by a few months
[02:06] <h00k> way to be
[02:06] <h00k> 1) Happy New Year! How are things going? 2) What do you want to do this year with the LoCo? Different? More? 3) Anything additional?
[02:07] <exigraff> Happy New Yars!
[02:07] <exigraff> *Year
[02:07] <h00k> yarrrr
[02:07] <timtierney> Indeed Happy New Year everyone.
[02:07] <h00k> my feet are freezing.
[02:07] <yotux> 1. happy new year
[02:07] <h00k> so, we can start with 1!
[02:08] <h00k> hello, ubuntuWi-Guest! You can change your nickname by typing /nick newnicknamehere
[02:08] <yotux> 1b.  Things are good,  I work 2 1/2 jobs and I would like to learn more about software testing in Natty
[02:09] <h00k> yotux: Cool. How familiar are you with reporting bugs?
[02:09] <yotux> I have read the wiki but I feel that I should re-read / print out the doc
[02:10] <h00k> I'm testing Natty on both my laptop and netbook
[02:10] <yotux> running natty at the present,  not for this meeting
[02:10] <timtierney> yotux, Nice.  I only have it in VirtualBox right now.
[02:11] <h00k> yotux: do you like it so far?
[02:11] <h00k> I'm excited to see Unity and how it will end up.
[02:11] <yotux> Laptop,  Desktop need alt CD due to LVM's
[02:11] <yotux> unity confuses me with natty
[02:11] <yotux> hook:  you have be running remix for netbooks?
[02:11] <h00k> yotux: the netbook edition, yeah
[02:12] <h00k> they got rid of the 'remix' label and just deemed it 'netbook edition' a few releases ago
[02:12] <yotux> then you have had some unity exp.
[02:12] <yotux> Sorry
[02:12] <h00k> Yeah, and it's actually default now on the Desktop edition as well
[02:12] <yotux> have not gotten a netbook yet thinking about it this year
[02:13] <h00k> I have the EEE and it's pretty slick
[02:13] <yotux> I have ATI on my Laptop
[02:14] <yotux> ATI in natty has some issues,  due to the early Xorg and compiz I believe
[02:14] <h00k> Yeah, it definitely could be
[02:14] <ubuntuWi-Guest> Hate unity on netbook, is it different on Natty. Not sure about after 10.10
[02:15] <yotux> guest:  the ubuntu team will be placing unity on all ubuntu Release starting 11.04
[02:15] <h00k> ubuntuWi-Guest: are you new to the LoCo? Do you have a usual nickname?
[02:16] <ubuntuWi-Guest> yes sorry Henry
[02:16] <h00k> ubuntuWi-Guest: oh, cool. Hello.
[02:17] <h00k> ubuntuWi-Guest: whereabouts are you located?
[02:17] <yotux> Welcome to the Monthly Ubuntu Wisconsin Loco meeting Henry
[02:17] <h00k> Monthly has been but a dream, but I'd love to get more people wanting to do more
[02:17] <yotux> Sorry
[02:18] <h00k> It should be monthly, though
[02:19] <h00k> yotux: cool, you want to know more about testing.
[02:19] <h00k> Anyone else want to do something new/different/more this year?
[02:19] <yotux> hook:  yes I would
[02:20] <lostson> am i fashionably late ?
[02:20] <h00k> lostson: wooo!
[02:20] <h00k> oh, henrydubb. you! Cool. I wasn't putting that together
[02:20] <h00k> lostson: yeah. We've learned 1) Happy New Year 2) yotux wants to know more about testing natty.
[02:20] <h00k> lostson: your turn
[02:21] <lostson> testing  natty use a usb key
[02:21] <h00k> exigraff: you too
[02:21] <lostson> i want to have a loco lan party and play alien arena all night
[02:21] <h00k> you could run your only machines on unstable software (like I do), I just expect things to break often.
[02:22] <h00k> lostson: that would be fun.
[02:22]  * h00k makes notes
[02:22] <lostson> bus trip to defcon ?
[02:22] <h00k> I'd love to. OH, Oh, I am going to LinuxCon this year.
[02:23] <yotux> lostson:  when is defcon?
[02:23] <exigraff> nice.
[02:23] <h00k> a few weeks after my wedding
[02:23] <lostson> i know you won them
[02:23] <h00k> lostson: one ticket, yeah :D
[02:23] <yotux> hook: congrats
[02:23] <lostson> yotux: http://www.defcon.org/
[02:23] <h00k> yotux: thanks
[02:24] <h00k> yotux: it's a security convention
[02:24] <h00k> *the* security convention
[02:24] <lostson> i like pen testing
[02:24] <h00k> keeps main machines stable, anyway
[02:25] <yotux> i install on a separate partition
[02:26] <yotux> defcon sounds great but I have a MS ride that weekend
[02:26] <lostson> id like to go at leaast once
[02:27] <h00k> Me too
[02:27] <exigraff> yeah, same here
[02:27] <yotux> 2. Release party?  Also it would be great to be an offical loco
[02:27] <lostson> we could setup a capture the flag contest
[02:28] <h00k> yotux: yes, it would be good, except I don't think we have gotten enough people/activities
[02:28] <yotux> h00k:  It seems that we are all spread across the state
[02:28] <lostson> what is the criteria for "official" loco ?
[02:28] <h00k> Release Party, yes.
[02:29] <h00k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
[02:29] <h00k> lostson: ^ this
[02:29] <lostson> release party would probably be on saturday correct ?
[02:29] <h00k> It can be any day
[02:29] <h00k> even a month after release, if we want.
[02:30] <lostson> i see
[02:30] <h00k> I can set a Release Party up in the Rhinelander area, for sure.
[02:31] <h00k> we had one in Madison, and Superior in the past
[02:31] <h00k> I'd help anyone else looking to set one up in their area, but I'm not going to do the whole thing
[02:32] <h00k> ;) anyone up for one in their area?
[02:33] <yotux> I live near Madison
[02:33] <lostson> im in appleton
[02:33] <h00k> Natty's out in April, on the 28th
[02:34] <h00k> yotux: Madison has a pretty active LUG, I wonder if they'd be up for doing anything again. I can approach them and see if they're interested
[02:34] <lostson> ask ol douglaswah
[02:34] <h00k> yessir
[02:34] <h00k> and the steering committee
[02:35] <lostson> hmm whatever happened to fluxbuntu
[02:36] <h00k> apparently they are still alive and strong. They have 7.10 out...
[02:36] <h00k> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[02:36] <h00k> I have a hard time believing that
[02:36] <lostson> lol
[02:36] <lostson> that's another idea to put on my board then
[02:36] <h00k> fluxbuntu?
[02:37] <lostson> yep
[02:37] <h00k> :D
[02:37] <lostson> soo many projects and too many kids
[02:37] <exigraff> :)
[02:38] <lostson> i would like to get in on the whole release party thing but i work every saturday so its kinda tough for me
[02:38] <yotux> Working allot I am free most Sat mornings,  About 1500 I start to get busier
[02:39] <yotux> I have installed ubuntu for a few co-workers in my factory job
[02:39] <h00k> it doesn't have to be on a Saturday, although weekends usually help
[02:39] <timtierney> I'm off on the weekends.
[02:39] <h00k> yotux: cool, did you get feedback, good/bad?
[02:39] <yotux> I live in Portage,  I will check into getting the library room
[02:39] <yotux> 2 of them love it
[02:40] <h00k> Oh, cool. They'd be candidates to attend, too.
[02:40] <yotux> 1 is on the fence,  there are media formats that they question
[02:40] <h00k> The one we had in Superior was mostly a social, the one in Madison I presented a 'what's new' and then we ate pizza
[02:41] <yotux> I think that general public doesn't understand some of the legal issues with multimedia
[02:41] <lostson> i love pizza
[02:41] <nickmoeck> Oh, meeting?
[02:41] <yotux> Love Pizza also
[02:41] <h00k> nickmoeck: Oh, meeting! Do you like pizza?
[02:41] <h00k> nickmoeck: we're talking about release party potential
[02:41] <nickmoeck> Pizza is good. I had some today, actually
[02:42] <h00k> exigraff: did I hear you say you're going to spearhead a Superior release party again;)?
[02:42]  * h00k coughs
[02:42] <h00k> negative.
[02:43] <h00k> reminds me: Does anyone else blog ubuntu-related stuff and want to be syndicated?
[02:43] <h00k> http://ubuntu-wisconsin.org/c/syndicated/
[02:43] <yotux> I don't blog sorry
[02:43] <h00k> no reason to be sorry
[02:43] <nickmoeck> sorry for not blogging more often :(
[02:43] <h00k> no reason to be sorry
[02:43] <h00k> >.<
[02:44] <lostson> my blog post have been sparse lately hoping to do more this year
[02:44] <h00k> it's not...like...a requirement
[02:44] <exigraff> h00k: har har
[02:44] <h00k> lostson: I liked your new post
[02:44] <lostson> yeah saw your comment
[02:44] <exigraff> lostson: agreed, thanks for getting that on paper
[02:44] <exigraff> as it were
[02:44] <lostson> not my best work but a decent post
[02:45] <h00k> I've been meaning to, also, but other things are taking prescidence
[02:45] <h00k> like the wedding stuffs.
[02:46] <lostson> yeah that will keep you busy
[02:46] <h00k> work and all.
[02:46] <exigraff> life happens
[02:46] <h00k> I forgot my numbers. 1 was happy new year, 2 was what we want to do, 3 was...
[02:46] <exigraff> misc?
[02:46] <h00k> yes!
[02:46] <h00k> anyone have anything?
[02:47] <h00k> I say more meetings!
[02:47] <exigraff> yussss
[02:47] <h00k> Wednesday nights usually work for people?
[02:47] <yotux> Its a night that I don't work doubles
[02:47] <h00k> cool.
[02:47] <yotux> Thursdays i have ARES / RACE Nets
[02:48] <lostson> i prefer meetings at 5am when everyone is sleeping and its just me my coffee pot and computers : )
[02:48] <yotux> Amateur Radio sorry
[02:48] <h00k> that's pretty cool, though.
[02:49] <h00k> Amatuer Radio
[02:49] <exigraff> yotux: nice
[02:49] <exigraff> reminds me, have you guys got anything cool that's not ubuntu-related to share?
[02:50] <exigraff> projects/hobbies/whatever
[02:50] <h00k> I'm writing a wedding-rsvp thing in ruby.
[02:50] <timtierney> Tried to build Chromium OS a couple weeks ago.
[02:50] <exigraff> :D
[02:50] <exigraff> how'd that go?
[02:50] <yotux> h00k:  yes I received my liscense  last year KC9TUX
[02:50] <h00k> I did that, too. It didn't make the .img correctly.
[02:50] <h00k> That's awesome.
[02:50] <nickmoeck> exigraff: Not quite Ubuntu related, but I'm working on starting a web hosting business, focusing on low-end OpenVZ VPS servers
[02:51] <timtierney> h00k, I got the image and it booted but wouldn't go to the login screen.
[02:51] <timtierney> h00k, Just a black screen.  I could change virtual terminals and see what the kernel was doing but no luck.
[02:51] <h00k> timtierney: I should do it again soon. I'm still hoping for a CR-48.
[02:51] <nickmoeck> ugh, CR-48's
[02:52] <nickmoeck> freaking google
[02:52] <h00k> lawl
[02:52] <nickmoeck> They sent one out to every zip code in Milwaukee
[02:52] <nickmoeck> except mine
[02:52] <timtierney> nickmoeck, Yeah I did it on my ThinkPad W700 which I think was half the problem.
[02:52] <lostson> i got a ton of projects brewing just keeping a lid on most of them but i can say at least 3 of them are almost complete
[02:54] <lostson> although i think a fluxbox spin is gonna go to the top of the list right now
[02:54] <lostson> the gaming stuff can wait for a bit
[02:54] <exigraff> heh
[02:54] <exigraff> I kinda miss fluxbox, truth be told
[02:54] <h00k> Alien Arena, I have to add that to the list
[02:54] <exigraff> not enough to switch
[02:55] <h00k> Back to the Ubuntu points...actually...Does anyone mind volunteering doing notes for the meetings?
[02:55] <lostson> im trying to figure out too if i want to publish my rebuilt kernels with oss support to a PPA for people or nto
[02:55] <h00k> just one point...
[02:56] <h00k> hmmm.
[02:56] <h00k> apparently not.
[02:56] <yotux> h00k:  I can do notes for the next meetings
[02:56] <exigraff> well, we have logs
[02:56] <h00k> yes, we do
[02:56] <exigraff> for the website, you're thinking?
[02:57] <lostson> yeah someone call pull their irc logs and post notes
[02:57] <h00k> website/mailing-list cross-post
[02:57] <yotux> Sorry multi meetings at once
[02:57] <h00k> 'sok
[02:57] <lostson> does it have to be the same person every meeting ?
[02:57] <h00k> no
[02:57] <h00k> as long as it's not me all the time :D
[02:57] <h00k> because I occasionally forget.
[02:58] <h00k> lostson: can I put you in charge of heading up the LAN party if you want to set one upo?
[02:58] <lostson> i dont mind doing it its just with my schedule i cant say i can be here everytime but im always in here so i can pull the logs
[02:58] <h00k> -o
[02:58] <yotux> I know for my ham radio meetings we decide who will be doing what for the next month
[02:58] <h00k> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/06/%23ubuntu-us-wi.html
[02:58] <h00k> etc
[02:59] <yotux> pending location could it be LAN / WAN?
[02:59] <h00k> our friend ubuntulog2 and ubuntulog do this for is
[02:59] <lostson> h00k: let me run parse some more of the idea through my brain first but i think i could put something together
[02:59] <h00k> probably WAN party
[02:59] <h00k> lostson: no prob
[03:00] <h00k> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <h00k> I vote we have a meeting...hmm...first week in Feb?
[03:01] <h00k> talk more about Release Parties
[03:02] <h00k> ?
[03:02] <lostson> for a release party it would be best in a public place a all ages sort of place im assuming
[03:02] <h00k> Yes
[03:02] <lostson> ok
[03:02] <yotux> I will spear head a Portage location
[03:02] <h00k> Awesome.
[03:02] <h00k> I have Rhinelander
[03:02] <lostson> im trying to think of what i could arrange around here
[03:02] <yotux> maybe something like skype to link all parties in WI?
[03:03] <h00k> Skype/IRC, something like that, yeah, if we did them at the same time
[03:03] <h00k> that would be cool.
[03:03] <h00k> for reference: http://anthonyrhook.com/blog/2009/11/08/release-party-success/
[03:03] <h00k> Also, http://anthonyrhook.com/blog/2009/10/20/ubuntu-karmic-koala-release-party/
[03:04] <h00k> map and Google Docs RSVP form link is dead.
[03:05] <h00k> So, let's see what we can get cooking and plan for the first week in Feb
[03:05] <h00k> The 2nd
[03:05] <h00k> sound alright?
[03:05] <h00k> Anything else people want to bring up?
[03:05] <lostson> groundhog day ?
[03:05] <h00k> Oh, is it?
[03:06] <lostson> yeah you should put the statusnet site on the website and pimp that thing i think there is only 4 of us on there
[03:06] <h00k> I think so, too.
[03:07] <lostson> speaking of that where is spikeb tonight
[03:07] <h00k> I donno :(
[03:07] <h00k> douglasswh said he couldn't make it either
[03:07] <h00k> I totally forgot to spam statusnet and twitter and identica about the meeting, too.
[03:07] <lostson> that guy is always busy
[03:07] <h00k> and the /topic
[03:08] <yotux> Next time I will toss it out of Twitter, FB, maybe even Buzz
[03:08] <h00k> feel free, if you know one is coming ;)
[03:08] <h00k> Oh, we have a Facebook group, too
[03:08] <h00k> I forget...
[03:08] <yotux> really
[03:08] <h00k> and the calendar
[03:08] <h00k> We do
[03:08] <lostson> what do you have setup on Buzz im a buzz junkie
[03:09] <h00k> can you do Buzz Groups?
[03:09] <h00k> Does this link work? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6350475927
[03:09] <yotux> not sure just got into the Social network thing
[03:09] <h00k> I hate Facebook, so I don't usually do much with it.
[03:10] <h00k> We have a ton of opportunities to spread the word
[03:10] <exigraff> I don't think so
[03:10] <h00k> exigraff: to what?
[03:10] <lostson> yeah i am not even on facebook
[03:10] <lostson> ok added Feb 2 to my calenday 8pm like normal ?
[03:10] <h00k> yep. I'll throw it on the Ubuntu Wisconsin calendar, too
[03:11] <yotux> have added it
[03:11] <h00k> Aaaand added.
[03:11] <exigraff> h00k: to Buzz groups; my connection dropped
[03:11]  * h00k drops exigraff 
[03:13] <h00k> Cool, I'll do a summary, and we can throw those on the site, too
[03:14] <h00k> So, I think that's all for now.
[03:14] <h00k> Take care, and keep in touch!
[03:14] <h00k> I'll still be around.
[03:14] <lostson> ok sounds good
[03:14] <yotux> h00k: Thankz have a good evening
[03:15] <h00k> yotux: you too :D
[03:17] <h00k> Cool.
[03:17] <h00k> that was more productive than I thought it was going to be
[03:18] <yotux> we may be small but we can still be mighty
[03:19] <h00k> I sure hope so
[03:20] <yotux> h00k:  I want to test ubuntu +1 thinking feature testing is that place to go?
[03:23] <h00k> yotux: yes, that's perfect.
[03:23] <h00k> yotux: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[03:24] <yotux> reading up on it at the moment
[03:24] <yotux> bugs and find them and reporting them scares me,  think after i do it a few times it will be easier
[03:24] <h00k> Yes, it surely will
[03:24] <h00k> it's not too bad
[03:25] <h00k> ubuntu-bug [packagename] makes it quite easy
[03:25] <yotux> i know for me windows manager is crashing in natty
[03:25] <yotux> is there a easy way to see what apps are doing in the background
[03:25] <yotux> how does one one that they have a bug,  reading debugging at the moment
[03:33] <h00k> aaand notes sent out.
[04:50]  * uberushaximus is a slowpoke