[13:00] <mdeslaur> Is Intel Clarkdale blacklisted for compiz in maverick?
[16:25] <marjo> apw, Sarvatt: happy new year
[16:26] <marjo> apw, Sarvatt: please see cjwatson's comment on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/693093
[16:26] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 693093 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i945gme] 2.6.37-10.24: Black Screen on Boot (affects: 8) (heat: 50)" [High,Confirmed]
[16:30] <apw> marjo, yep so things work with old grub and not new ... what graphics h/w is this?
[16:31] <apw> marjo, this probabally means newer grub is leaving the display initiailised differnetly and the kernel is not coping
[16:31] <marjo> apw: Intel 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[16:31] <apw> marjo, as this is intel graphics we need to get an intel_reg_dumper output from both working and not working cases for comparison
[16:32] <apw> preferably at the same spot, say at gdm just after the drums, remotely logging in to get it
[16:32] <marjo> apw: please provide specific instructions
[16:34] <apw> marjo, and as we have just released a new -12 kernel i recon you should test with that
[16:34] <apw> as for instructions:
[16:35] <apw> install intel-gpu-tools
[16:35] <marjo> got it
[16:35] <apw> run sudo intel_reg_dumper on the old grub and on the new grub
[16:35] <apw> preferably at the same place
[16:36] <marjo> apw: how do i do that with the old grub when i can't even get to any ttys?
[16:37] <apw> marjo, i thought you could hear the drums
[16:37] <apw> which means the machine is up, so you can login over the network
[16:37] <marjo> apw: yes, so run it using ssh login, after the drum is heard, right?
[16:37] <marjo> apw: will do
[16:38] <apw> marjo, yes in both cases, working and not
[16:38] <marjo> apw: ack
[16:39] <apw> then the setup is the same in both cases, so any register differences are likely the problem
[16:39] <apw> marjo, but do upgrade to -12 beforehand
[16:39] <marjo> apw: ah yes
[17:03] <marjo> apw: bad news
[17:03]  * apw listens
[17:04] <marjo> apw: with latest grub-1.99~20110104 and kernel-12, kernel-11, i don't even hear drums any more!
[17:05] <marjo> apw: but i have intel_reg_dumper output for old grub & kernel-12 (which works)
[17:06] <apw> marjo, ok so boot -11 on both
[17:06] <marjo> apw: will do
[17:07] <apw> or whatever kernel works on both
[17:07] <apw> boots ok on both, not with working graphics obviously
[17:21] <marjo> apw: ok, i've got two dump files, how do you want them?
[17:21] <apw> marjo, on the bug please, label them appropriatly with kernel and grub versions in both
[17:22] <marjo> apw: oh wait; i need to get you -11 and old grub, sorry
[17:47] <marjo> apw ok attached two intel_reg_dumper outputs
[17:54] <apw> marjo, will this machine be in dallas next week?
[17:54] <marjo> apw: yes, it's my "travel netbook"
[18:00] <apw> marjo, cool then we can look at it some more then
[18:01] <apw> i think we need to get an intel_reg_dumper before X starts which is somewhat complex to descrive
[18:04] <apw> marjo, is 1126 the first one which works going back, ie. have you tried the ones in between
[18:06] <marjo> apw: 1126 was suggested by Sarvatt based on his analysis of when the breakage occurred
[18:07] <marjo> apw, i.e. before Alpha-1 release, since I confirmed that the Alpha-1 worked, remember?
[18:07] <apw> maxb, be handy to confirm exactly which version triggers this, the changes between the two grubs may help us understand
[18:07]  * maxb *blinks*, pays attention
[18:11] <apw> maxb, soz stupid xchat (or stupid apw)
[18:11] <apw> marjo, ^^
[18:12] <maxb> Heh. I have a i945 too :-)
[18:12] <marjo> apw: what do you want me to look at?!
[18:13] <apw> marjo, never mind we'll look next week
[18:13] <marjo> apw: ok thx; i'll bring an extra netbook, for backup 
[18:13] <apw> cool
[20:48] <qoelqast> hi
[20:48] <qoelqast> I got: error setting MTRR when trying to load X, there's only X installed. What does this mean/how to fix?
[20:50] <bryceh> qoelqast, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Glossary#What%20are%20%22MTRR%22s?
[20:52] <qoelqast> bryceh:I read something on gentoo wiki, but is there a way to fix that?
[20:55] <qoelqast> bryceh: cat /proc/mtrr gives outpu: base=0x000000000 (     0MB),size=     128MB, count=1:write-back etc
[20:59] <qoelqast> Well, I guess the problem isn't X based? I'll try in default channel, thanks