[14:50] <scott-work> holstein:  with the firewire bug, have you tried enabling raw1394 via ubuntustudio-controls?
[15:59] <holstein> scott-work: i'll try that
[16:00] <holstein> to make sure i cover everything
[16:00] <holstein> but, in 10.10
[16:00] <holstein> i do all my usual tweaks
[16:00] <holstein> it doesnt work
[16:00] <holstein> but with RT kernel, it does
[16:15] <ailo> holstein: but the raw1394 would only work for the old stack, right?
[18:09] <holstein> ailo: i'll have to confirm that 
[18:09] <holstein> it'll be next week i bet
[18:10] <holstein> i'll try and catch up with you and run some tests
[18:51] <ailo> So, I've had a look at Ubuntustudio-controls and I'm sure I can handle an update as well as adding some features. Would be great if all rt related stuff was handled from the same place.
[18:52] <ailo> Even adding user to audio group
[18:54] <ailo> I would start with updating the firewire stuff, but I need confirmation on how that works, so holstein or Asmo will need to help me with that
[20:49] <scott-work> ailo:  that sounds good, i would defintely wait until we understand what is necessary/required for firewire
[22:18] <scott-work> trying to install natty last night and it keeps sending sigterm to computer during installing software :(