| ShootEmUp | yup, just what I thought, firefox bug, doesn't work right | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ShootEmUp | with XFCE | 00:00 |
| ShootEmUp | let me try this fix | 00:01 |
| The_Maverick | it doesnt work with chromium either. | 00:02 |
| freeraider | i rebooted | 00:03 |
| freeraider | and just nothing happend | 00:03 |
| freeraider | xorg.conf still blank | 00:03 |
| ShootEmUp | did you put anything in xorg.conf? | 00:03 |
| freeraider | resolution the same | 00:03 |
| freeraider | no | 00:03 |
| ShootEmUp | ahh, you gotta put something in there | 00:03 |
| charlie-tca | freeraider: you have to add the lines you need. It won't add them automatically, since it does not know what to add anymore | 00:03 |
| freeraider | ok, so i just need a higher resolution | 00:04 |
| ShootEmUp | The_Maverick, rebooting, trying a fix | 00:07 |
| The_Maverick | shootemup alrighty | 00:07 |
| charlie-tca | freeraider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28xorg\.conf%29#Monitors%20running%20at%20low%20resolution | 00:10 |
| ShootEmUp | The_Maverick, no dice | 00:10 |
| ShootEmUp | still the same | 00:10 |
| The_Maverick | well i cant get it to work with chromium either | 00:11 |
| ShootEmUp | :( | 00:11 |
| The_Maverick | it looks like it is about to add it and it just doesnt. | 00:11 |
| ShootEmUp | seems like a xfce just don't work with the drag & drop | 00:12 |
| ShootEmUp | wish I could have been more help, well atleast you know its xfce and not FF | 00:13 |
| The_Maverick | yeah. i appreciate the effort. | 00:13 |
| Sysi | hum, i can drag images in browser to terminal and it gets their url | 00:16 |
| Sysi | i guess you could go around it by using nautilus | 00:16 |
| ShootEmUp | could make a script | 00:16 |
| ShootEmUp | just a thought | 00:17 |
| The_Maverick | i dont know how to make scripts or anything like that | 00:17 |
| The_Maverick | just starting out | 00:17 |
| ShootEmUp | me nither | 00:17 |
| The_Maverick | :( | 00:17 |
| JediMaster420 | I'm having trouble with the size of my Ubuntu netbook instalation, should I keep messing with it or try this version? | 00:18 |
| Sysi | you could try installing nautilus, it should take over your desktop | 00:18 |
| Sysi | JediMaster420: what kind of problems? | 00:18 |
| ShootEmUp | JediMaster420, how much space is it taking up? | 00:19 |
| JediMaster420 | 3.5gb | 00:20 |
| knome | is there a way to create a button that just shuts down the pc, of course without passwrod prompt? | 00:20 |
| TheSheep | knome: yes, on the chasis | 00:20 |
| JediMaster420 | it's only a 4gb SSD | 00:20 |
| ShootEmUp | JediMaster420, Ubuntu needs around 10GBs | 00:20 |
| JediMaster420 | I'm running netbook | 00:20 |
| Sysi | have you removed unneeded aplications? | 00:21 |
| ShootEmUp | for a useful install | 00:21 |
| TheSheep | knome: but seriously, everything is possible | 00:21 |
| Sysi | ShootEmUp: without version upgrades, 4GB would be fine for any buntu | 00:21 |
| JediMaster420 | I was going through them, but I can't seem to find what is taking up so much space | 00:21 |
| ShootEmUp | true | 00:21 |
| Sysi | JediMaster420: just remove everything you don't need | 00:22 |
| ShootEmUp | I have a ubuntu command line install on 4.3GBs | 00:22 |
| Sysi | openoffice is big | 00:22 |
| The_Maverick | yeah open office is the first thing i get rid of | 00:22 |
| ShootEmUp | remove OpenOffice if you don't use it | 00:22 |
| Sysi | i have xubuntu and half of kubuntu in 3,5? | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | knome: why not? I never have to enter a password when I click quit ;-) | 00:22 |
| The_Maverick | so how is kubuntu? | 00:23 |
| Sysi | knome: button in panel and prompt after that isn't good? | 00:23 |
| Sysi | kubuntu uses kde | 00:23 |
| knome | well, i'd like one click quit | 00:24 |
| Sysi | on laptop taht would be easy with power/sleep button | 00:24 |
| knome | "when power button is pressed: ask" but nothing happens | 00:25 |
| The_Maverick | is kde less of a resource hog than gnome? | 00:25 |
| ShootEmUp | about the same | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | The_Maverick: not really | 00:25 |
| Sysi | by default not | 00:25 |
| ShootEmUp | xubuntu is the lightest | 00:25 |
| Sysi | gnome and kde can be thinned with settings | 00:26 |
| ShootEmUp | full xubuntu install = 2.24GB | 00:26 |
| The_Maverick | yeah really like xubuntu. it is so much easier on my laptop than gnome. i have to wait so long to load browsers and so forth. | 00:27 |
| ShootEmUp | if you like small size ubuntu, try command line installing + Xorg + LXDE or Fluxbox or IceWM | 00:28 |
| ShootEmUp | add only what you need | 00:29 |
| JediMaster420 | office is only 254 mb | 00:29 |
| The_Maverick | command line install? | 00:29 |
| Sysi | quarter of gigabyte | 00:29 |
| Sysi | "ubuntu server" | 00:29 |
| ShootEmUp | The_Maverick, yup, only on alternate install CD | 00:29 |
| Sysi | or just lubuntu | 00:30 |
| ShootEmUp | gonna record me doing one someday, put on youtube | 00:30 |
| ShootEmUp | keep forgeting to | 00:30 |
| JediMaster420 | it will give me more, but I need to do more. Is there any way to sort by size or view the size of packages? | 00:30 |
| Sysi | knome: in "advanced" xfce settings there are options for that logout ptompt, maybe yo could set easy shutdown there? | 00:31 |
| Sysi | i didn't manage to find it | 00:31 |
| ShootEmUp | JediMaster420, try removing some of the media players | 00:31 |
| Sysi | JediMaster420: just remove anything you don't need desperately | 00:31 |
| knome | Sysi, well, it would also be okay if the laptop physical power button would do what is set in the power manager | 00:31 |
| Sysi | you can always install them back | 00:32 |
| knome | Sysi, now i am not asked what to do even if i press it... | 00:32 |
| charlie-tca | JediMaster420: yes | 00:32 |
| charlie-tca | at least in thunar there is | 00:32 |
| Sysi | knome: it may work after reboot or something | 00:32 |
| JediMaster420 | I keep removing stuff, but I can't find ones big enough to matter | 00:32 |
| knome | Sysi, that was the default value | 00:32 |
| Sysi | small things make big difference | 00:32 |
| knome | ERRRR | 00:32 |
| knome | too small icons fail | 00:33 |
| charlie-tca | JediMaster420: You can do a directory listing in Terminal, using "ls -sA" which will show all files and directories sorted by size, including hidden files | 00:34 |
| Sysi | or you could try xubuntu | 00:35 |
| ShootEmUp | gotta go now | 00:36 |
| JediMaster420 | the mail/adress book thing is about 80mb | 00:42 |
| JediMaster420 | evolution* | 00:42 |
| JediMaster420 | great, I uninstalled the task bar --; | 01:42 |
| JediMaster420 | and now I can't find it to put it back >< | 02:06 |
| dr4c4n | sorry but I find this amusing.. the JediMaster has lost his taskbar.. can't u just use mind control? like yoda? | 02:24 |
| dr4c4n | ~the taskbar will appear~ waves hand in front of monitor | 02:25 |
| JediMaster420 | I'm using the force, aka alt+tab.... | 02:25 |
| dr4c4n | honestly, if that's the limit of the force, it sounds like u've migrated from windoze | 02:25 |
| dr4c4n | my apologies | 02:26 |
| dr4c4n | have you looked @ the forums, for "missing task bar" perhaps that may help the re-installation process | 02:26 |
| JediMaster420 | that's right, this linux stuff just isn;t woth the effort... | 02:26 |
| dr4c4n | wait wait.. i'm trying to help here.. | 02:26 |
| dr4c4n | i just found it very amuzing is all | 02:26 |
| JediMaster420 | I got it back, but there is a bit of an error | 02:26 |
| dr4c4n | quel error? | 02:27 |
| dr4c4n | what's the error you got? | 02:27 |
| JediMaster420 | restart button was missing, took a sec to sudo reboot | 02:28 |
| dr4c4n | ah, so now everything is working normally | 02:28 |
| dr4c4n | good stuff! | 02:28 |
| JediMaster420 | I get this error on boot: OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet has a problem | 02:29 |
| JediMaster420 | and power button still gone | 02:29 |
| dr4c4n | sudo aptitude install gnome-applets | 02:30 |
| dr4c4n | :) | 02:30 |
| dr4c4n | should fix er up | 02:30 |
| dr4c4n | lemme know what happens | 02:31 |
| JediMaster420 | nope | 02:36 |
| JediMaster420 | got it | 02:41 |
| JediMaster420 | different package: indicator applet session | 02:42 |
| dr4c4n | good stuff! | 02:43 |
| JediMaster420 | thanks for the help, got 800mb free, gonna have to live with that before I do something really bad @_@ | 02:44 |
| JediMaster420 | for the record, this PC runs Win7, my lapop that only runs vista runs ubuntu, my netbook runs unbutu instead of the asus linux, and my dreambox runs busybox lol | 02:45 |
| dr4c4n | hehe :) that's what all the funs about | 02:45 |
| JediMaster420 | I learned some linux back in the day, but haven't used it until recently because it's too hard @_@ | 02:46 |
| dr4c4n | never say it's too hard | 02:47 |
| dr4c4n | it's just not "user friendly" or "convenient" | 02:47 |
| dr4c4n | if it was too hard, I wouldn't be able to use it | 02:47 |
| JediMaster420 | whatever you want to call it, it's 2011 and I shouldn't have to use the command line @_@ | 02:49 |
| dr4c4n | lol, that's half the fun | 02:49 |
| dr4c4n | you don't know what your missing, or what ur running, or what secrets lie in the stuff you are running then | 02:50 |
| dr4c4n | I don't know enough of the command line or reverse engineering to figure that out either, but that doesn't mean i'm not interested in it | 02:50 |
| JediMaster420 | I actualy find quite the opposite, I understand and can operate much more with a GUI | 02:51 |
| dr4c4n | yes, but what's behind that gui, that you are so fond of the convenience of | 02:52 |
| JediMaster420 | I'm not saying there is no place for command line, I'm just saying I shouldn't have to use it. Yes, I'm spoiled by the convenience of winblows, but that doesn;t mean I've ever paid for a copy ;p | 02:53 |
| dr4c4n | theivery isn't something to be proud of | 03:12 |
| Tiktalik | Can I host a two person lan party with one machine windows 7 and one xubuntu/ | 03:51 |
| Tiktalik | Wireless? | 03:51 |
| Tiktalik | !LAN | 03:58 |
| Tiktalik | !lan | 03:58 |
| === sresu is now known as sre-su | ||
| freeraider | hey ich bins wieder | 05:06 |
| freeraider | sry i forgot | 05:06 |
| freeraider | only english ^^ | 05:06 |
| freeraider | i had this problem i cant change my resolution in xubuntu and there was no xorg.conf file so i switched to archlinux.. i just installed it and set up gnome too.. @ archlinuxinstall i can change my resolution changing the framebuffer to 1024*768 | 05:08 |
| freeraider | but if i starx /usr/bin/gnome-session the resolution change again to 800*600 | 05:08 |
| freeraider | and there i cant switch to a higher resolution | 05:09 |
| freeraider | the xorg.conf is blank | 05:09 |
| tiktalik_ | I accidentally created a new wireless network. | 05:22 |
| tiktalik_ | How do I remove it? | 05:23 |
| tiktalik_ | !wifi | 05:23 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 05:23 |
| freeraider | !german | 05:42 |
| ubottu | In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. | 05:42 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| lgp | hi | 09:24 |
| lgp | how to design ur own desktop themes for xubuntu? | 09:25 |
| === sre-su is now known as sresu | ||
| === sresu is now known as sre-su | ||
| Jpapertowels | how do i remove xubuntu-desktop | 11:54 |
| Jpapertowels | (to get back to minimal install incase you dont understand) | 11:54 |
| Jpapertowels | nevermind sudo tasksel saves the day | 11:55 |
| Sysi | i wonder a bit what did he do | 12:00 |
| lighta | he mean xfce ? | 12:01 |
| lighta | I wonder too | 12:01 |
| Sysi | i ment compared to: | 12:01 |
| Sysi | !puregnome | 12:01 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome | 12:01 |
| MorphixNW | how can I install Linux ona laptop that wont boot from CD and has no USB? | 12:16 |
| gr8m8 | does it have pxe boot option MorphixNW ? | 12:18 |
| MorphixNW | I cant even find a BIOS setup :( | 12:18 |
| MorphixNW | its a Panasonic CF-62 | 12:19 |
| MorphixNW | very old old old | 12:19 |
| gr8m8 | that'll make it hard... | 12:19 |
| Sysi | you thunk it would run modern os? | 12:19 |
| MorphixNW | debian yes I do | 12:19 |
| MorphixNW | you think it wont Sysi? | 12:19 |
| Sysi | depends how old | 12:19 |
| MorphixNW | it will run a headless system without a hitch, your meant to help, not present a further problem | 12:21 |
| Sysi | if pxe don't work you could maybe take hdd out and install on other machine | 12:21 |
| MorphixNW | now thats helpful | 12:21 |
| MorphixNW | I had thought about that one, but was hoping for another solution | 12:22 |
| gr8m8 | I think that would be easiest | 12:22 |
| Sysi | read my mind | 12:22 |
| MorphixNW | who wants easy loil | 12:22 |
| MorphixNW | lol* | 12:22 |
| MorphixNW | challenges :) | 12:22 |
| MorphixNW | new machines are all so easy, old relics present challenges :D | 12:25 |
| MorphixNW | besides I only gave a man 5GBP for it a few years ago | 12:25 |
| Sysi | try new ati :p | 12:26 |
| MorphixNW | lol | 12:26 |
| MorphixNW | I have a "PC Specialist Laptop" here thats pretty beastty | 12:27 |
| MorphixNW | Core 2 Due T660 2.60Ghz, 4GB DDR, 320GB, Radeon 512MB | 12:27 |
| MorphixNW | just a shames its not mine, its only here for repair | 12:28 |
| Sysi | i'm considering getting mac laptop | 12:28 |
| MorphixNW | they will run Linux these days :D | 12:29 |
| Sysi | better tan lenovo which was other option | 12:29 |
| Sysi | linux/ubuntu | 12:29 |
| MorphixNW | I used to like "Thinkpad" but since they sold out and re-branded as "Lenovo" I am with you | 12:30 |
| MorphixNW | MAC all the way for solid hardware | 12:30 |
| Sysi | they have some HW issues too, but mb air is just so sweet | 12:31 |
| Sysi | pretty little thing with c2d | 12:32 |
| ShootEmUp | Hello Everyone! | 12:50 |
| udo_ | hello, how can I do the settings for vinagre | 12:57 |
| udo_ | I'm using xfce | 12:57 |
| === Aderlass_ is now known as Aderlass | ||
| udo_ | hello, how can I do the settings for vinagre | 13:01 |
| udo_ | I'm using xfce | 13:01 |
| Sysi | from the program? | 13:01 |
| udo_ | Sysi, no setting password etc | 13:02 |
| udo_ | Sysi, cant find how to do that , in ubuntu it was somwhere under systewmsettigs, but xfce? | 13:02 |
| Sysi | you want to set up vnc server? vinagre is just a client | 13:03 |
| udo_ | Sysi, yes, I also dont now how/where to start the vnc server | 13:06 |
| Sysi | you should try vino | 13:07 |
| udo_ | oops, not installed...hm, thought this is already default | 13:08 |
| Sysi | in ubuntu i think it is | 13:08 |
| ShootEmUp | !info vino | 13:08 |
| ubottu | vino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 159 kB, installed size 512 kB | 13:08 |
| ShootEmUp | is optional | 13:09 |
| Sysi | it still could be there by default i think? | 13:09 |
| ShootEmUp | not installed by default | 13:09 |
| Sysi | can be so, i don't use gnome | 13:10 |
| udo_ | ok, its vino-preferences. But is there a menue where you have access to vino-preferences? | 13:13 |
| wieshka | hey there - what desktop env runs Xubuntu with ? | 13:33 |
| Sysi | xfce | 13:33 |
| wieshka | is xfce more lightweight then Gnome/KDE ? | 13:34 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 13:34 |
| wieshka | is there some good link, where i can see compare ? | 13:34 |
| ShootEmUp | if you have less than 512MB of ram, xubuntu is better than ubuntu. | 13:35 |
| Sysi | xubuntu runs better with 512MB than gnome | 13:35 |
| ShootEmUp | I'll see if I can find you one | 13:35 |
| Sysi | sloow | 13:35 |
| wieshka | i have 2 Gb, but i am less on CPU | 13:35 |
| wieshka | N330 Atmo | 13:35 |
| wieshka | Atom | 13:35 |
| Sysi | no help | 13:35 |
| wieshka | 1.6 Ghz | 13:35 |
| TheSheep | wieshka: what exactly do you want to see compared? | 13:35 |
| wieshka | default install performance between versions of Ubuntu | 13:36 |
| Sysi | disable desktop effects, use adblock and maybe noscript and deal with it | 13:36 |
| TheSheep | performance measured how? | 13:36 |
| wieshka | most interesting part for me is CPU | 13:36 |
| ShootEmUp | you most likely have a dual-core CPU, in that case ubuntu is the best bet | 13:36 |
| Sysi | there's no "performace" in desktop, just resource usage | 13:36 |
| ShootEmUp | 1.6GHz X 2 | 13:37 |
| wieshka | Sysi: sorry for my english - i meaned resource usage, yes | 13:37 |
| Sysi | cpu usage comes pretty much 100% from applications | 13:37 |
| wieshka | Sysi: my appplications will use ~90 of all 4 CPU threads | 13:37 |
| TheSheep | buthow do you measure it? | 13:37 |
| Sysi | wieshka: you could try to find lighter ones | 13:38 |
| wieshka | in basics it is HD Video playback | 13:38 |
| === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 | ||
| wieshka | with Adobe air - very specific aplllications | 13:38 |
| ShootEmUp | many people have preformace problems when Ubuntu One is running | 13:39 |
| Sysi | my netbook played video better when i removed pulseaudio | 13:39 |
| TheSheep | your video playback speed won't change | 13:39 |
| TheSheep | with xubuntu | 13:39 |
| TheSheep | because when playing video, all the cpu is used by that application anyways | 13:40 |
| TheSheep | so changing the environment that launched it won't help you | 13:40 |
| wieshka | TheSheep: i am not trying to improvemy video playback - it is ok. The problem is, that i also have some background proceses, what can hang video, so every % of CPU usage is importnant | 13:40 |
| wieshka | hmmmm, maybe i should try 64 bit instead of 32 | 13:41 |
| Sysi | you can't go over what you HW is capable | 13:42 |
| wieshka | how stable is Maverick Meerkat - i mean for production use, not personal/test | 13:45 |
| wieshka | or better is to choose Lynx ? | 13:45 |
| ShootEmUp | Maerick Meerkat is stable | 13:45 |
| Sysi | stable versions should be stable | 13:46 |
| Sysi | if lts works, i'd recommend it | 13:46 |
| Sysi | "not working" is best reason for update | 13:46 |
| kuzorra | Hello everyone! Hallo zusammen! | 14:04 |
| kuzorra | kann mir jemand bei der Auflösungseinstellung helfen? | 14:06 |
| kuzorra | can anyone help me with the screen resolution? | 14:06 |
| ShootEmUp | sure | 14:06 |
| ShootEmUp | whats the problem? | 14:06 |
| kuzorra | graphic: Intel 845 on xubuntu 10.10, I can't change my resolution | 14:07 |
| ShootEmUp | how are you trying to change your resolution? | 14:07 |
| kuzorra | under "settings for xfce 4" I can't pick different resolutions | 14:08 |
| kuzorra | the drop down menu doesnt open.... | 14:08 |
| ShootEmUp | under settings -> monitors right? | 14:08 |
| error21 | how to fix login in Xubuntu 9.10? | 14:08 |
| kuzorra | ....not for resolution, and neither for refresh rate | 14:09 |
| Sysi | kuzorra: try arandr | 14:09 |
| kuzorra | wait a sec, I'll check for that | 14:09 |
| kuzorra | I think it's called "display", "Anzeige" in German | 14:09 |
| kuzorra | @sysi I googled for my problem, I don't know arandr, so that doesn't help without further instructions | 14:10 |
| error21 | I have update xubuntu to 9.10 change resolution and then can`t login | 14:10 |
| ShootEmUp | kuzorra, try sudo apt-get install lxrandr | 14:11 |
| ShootEmUp | then run lxrandr | 14:11 |
| kuzorra | there is only one display listed | 14:11 |
| kuzorra | I just installed xubuntu on an old pc, using a 14" screen.... | 14:11 |
| kuzorra | ...ubuntu & suse worked well with this screen | 14:12 |
| Sysi | arandr is easy, GUI | 14:12 |
| Sysi | just install it | 14:12 |
| error21 | someone? | 14:13 |
| Sysi | xorg and kernel versions matter with HW(gpu) compability | 14:13 |
| kuzorra | how do I copy&paste into a terminal window? | 14:14 |
| Sysi | paint and middle click is fastest | 14:14 |
| Sysi | or shift ctrl v | 14:14 |
| ShootEmUp | ctrl + shift + v | 14:14 |
| Sysi | error21: could you be more exact? | 14:14 |
| error21 | i update xubuntu | 14:15 |
| error21 | to 9.10 | 14:15 |
| error21 | and when i try to login | 14:15 |
| kuzorra | is 9.10 faster than 10.10 | 14:15 |
| Sysi | 9.10 has EOL soon too.. | 14:15 |
| Sysi | shouldn't be faster | 14:15 |
| error21 | i can`t log in | 14:15 |
| Sysi | it just pops back to login? | 14:16 |
| error21 | yes | 14:16 |
| error21 | I select xt ... and log | 14:16 |
| Sysi | press ctrl alt F1 to get to virtual terminal, log in there | 14:16 |
| error21 | and then? | 14:16 |
| Sysi | ctrl alt F7 or F8 is back to graphical | 14:16 |
| Sysi | rm .ICEauthority | 14:17 |
| error21 | ok | 14:17 |
| error21 | ok | 14:17 |
| error21 | that `s all? | 14:17 |
| kuzorra | okay, I ran lxrandr | 14:17 |
| Sysi | try | 14:17 |
| ShootEmUp | kuzorra, and what happend? | 14:17 |
| error21 | thanks | 14:17 |
| kuzorra | screen popped up, but still just one resolution listed | 14:18 |
| Sysi | error21: it worked? np | 14:18 |
| kuzorra | or "automatic" as resolution and refresh rate | 14:18 |
| error21 | now I try | 14:18 |
| kuzorra | kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ lxrandr | 14:19 |
| kuzorra | xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default | 14:19 |
| kuzorra | xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default | 14:19 |
| kuzorra | that was written in terminal after that | 14:20 |
| ShootEmUp | okay | 14:20 |
| kuzorra | tried again, still the same | 14:21 |
| kuzorra | at least the pull down menu opens, which it dioesn't under xfce settings | 14:21 |
| ShootEmUp | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try that | 14:21 |
| kuzorra | tried that before, but I#ll check again | 14:22 |
| kuzorra | nothing happened | 14:22 |
| kuzorra | check resolution with lxrandr again? | 14:23 |
| kuzorra | sill the same | 14:23 |
| ShootEmUp | type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 14:23 |
| kuzorra | btw: should I have a working xorg.conf under xububntu 10.10? | 14:23 |
| ShootEmUp | and tell me whats in it | 14:24 |
| ShootEmUp | you don't need one | 14:24 |
| ShootEmUp | but sometimes is helps | 14:24 |
| Sysi | shouldn't need | 14:24 |
| kuzorra | nothing, just a blank file is opened | 14:24 |
| kuzorra | I looked for that file under file management before, but couldn't find one | 14:24 |
| kuzorra | even with hidden files shown | 14:25 |
| Sysi | it isn't there by default | 14:25 |
| kuzorra | google told me that Intel 845 had problems under former ubuntus too | 14:25 |
| kuzorra | maybe there is a vesa driver used instead? | 14:26 |
| kuzorra | does it make a big differnce....and if, how do I check and change that? | 14:26 |
| Sysi | no, it should be about monitor detecting | 14:27 |
| kuzorra | lxrandr says "standard monitor" is detected | 14:28 |
| kuzorra | does xubuntu automatically pick the right driver for Intel 845? | 14:28 |
| ShootEmUp | it trys | 14:29 |
| Sysi | basically best | 14:29 |
| kuzorra | how do I find out which driver is in use? | 14:29 |
| Sysi | lspci -k | 14:30 |
| ShootEmUp | kuzorra try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel | 14:30 |
| ShootEmUp | then reboot | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | xserver-xorg-video-intel ist schon die neueste Version. | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt: | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | linux-headers-2.6.35-22 linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | Verwenden Sie »apt-get autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen. | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ | 14:31 |
| kuzorra | which basically tells me that nothing was changed | 14:31 |
| ShootEmUp | I got that, let me search some more | 14:32 |
| kuzorra | i'll reboot and be back soon | 14:33 |
| ShootEmUp | ok | 14:33 |
| kuzorra | thanks for your help! | 14:33 |
| ShootEmUp | charlie-tca, long time no see! | 14:39 |
| charlie-tca | I am hiding these days... ;-) | 14:40 |
| ShootEmUp | from who? | 14:40 |
| charlie-tca | everyone? | 14:40 |
| ShootEmUp | ohh, ok | 14:40 |
| charlie-tca | Good Morning, ShootEmUp | 14:40 |
| ShootEmUp | good morning to you too | 14:40 |
| ShootEmUp | so what you been up to? | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | same as always... bugs, testing, and other | 14:42 |
| ShootEmUp | well... my wii broke :( | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | my daughters too | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | it was 4 years old, though | 14:43 |
| ShootEmUp | dirty lens of death | 14:43 |
| ShootEmUp | mines 1 year | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | This one won't spin at all | 14:43 |
| ShootEmUp | geting a cleaning disk, hoping it works. | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | Pretty sure not spinning is not good ;-) | 14:44 |
| ShootEmUp | mine spins, but can't play dual-layered games | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | sounds like the laser... either dirty or out of line | 14:45 |
| * TheSheep is scavenging cd drives for motors | 14:45 | |
| ShootEmUp | yeah dirty laser, can still play gamecube games | 14:45 |
| ShootEmUp | geting the cleaning disk tonight! hopfully can play some black ops later | 14:49 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 14:50 |
| ShootEmUp | what? Black ops on wii not your liking? | 14:52 |
| charlie-tca | I finally learned how to put the disks in the thing | 14:54 |
| charlie-tca | I have ever used the wii, myself. | 14:54 |
| ShootEmUp | you put it in the front | 14:54 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | I thought everybody knew that | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | They taught me how to get them out again, too | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | lol | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | Wiis are great | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, at least they keep the kids busy | 14:56 |
| ShootEmUp | or keep me busy | 14:56 |
| ShootEmUp | I think I had 300+ hours on Modern Warefare Reflex | 14:57 |
| ShootEmUp | well I gotta go now, TTYL | 15:02 |
| kuzorra | hello again | 15:10 |
| kuzorra | still the same problem, can't change the resolution | 15:10 |
| kuzorra | any hints how to configure my Intel 845 under xubuntu 10.10? | 15:12 |
| kuzorra | ....or how to change display type, now it's set on Standard | 15:13 |
| kuzorra | anybody out there? | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, people are out there. | 15:16 |
| kuzorra | that's nice to know ;-) | 15:16 |
| kuzorra | ....and can anyone tell me other stuff I could try to set up my screen properly? | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | !patience | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 15:17 |
| kuzorra | hmmmmmkay | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | Here is a whole page of stuff you can try - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution | 15:18 |
| kuzorra | I looked around a lot before, but as a total noob it's hard to find answers/explanations that are on my level | 15:19 |
| kuzorra | another problem I hav: I "lost" my shutdown button from my sidebar..... | 15:21 |
| kuzorra | ....and can't add it again via right-click, where do I find it? | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | What version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu are you using? Which is it? | 15:23 |
| kuzorra | xubuntu 10.10 | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | right-click the panel, left-click action buttons, add... | 15:24 |
| kuzorra | I don't know what "action button" could be in the german version | 15:27 |
| kuzorra | there is properties, move, delete, add new elements adjust panel | 15:28 |
| kuzorra | I didn't find it under add | 15:28 |
| kuzorra | okay, got it | 15:29 |
| kuzorra | the thing to be added is "action button" | 15:29 |
| kuzorra | but shutdown was missing.... | 15:29 |
| kuzorra | .....which could be fixed via settings | 15:30 |
| kuzorra | dammit....this just shuts down the panel and loogs me off | 15:32 |
| kuzorra | so I added a Starter with menu, with entries like shutdown, restart, standby and hibernate | 15:40 |
| kuzorra | but what are the commands to use there? now those entries are still empty, because I don't know what to fill in | 15:41 |
| kuzorra | and I don't want to use a termninal command that requires a PW everytime I want to shut down | 15:41 |
| kuzorra | bye for now.... | 15:49 |
| The_Maverick | was wondering if anyone here used docky. to add an app to docky i have to add an application to the desktop then drag it, but if i delete the desktop shortcut the app will not work on the dock. | 16:43 |
| Sysi | docky-dock? | 16:43 |
| Sysi | (only used awn) | 16:43 |
| The_Maverick | yeah docky the dock | 16:43 |
| The_Maverick | i dont think that will let me add a custom launcher. | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | I did not think docky worked | 16:44 |
| The_Maverick | lol yeah it works. i like it because it runs smoothely, but it seems that i might have to switch if i can not resolve this problem | 16:44 |
| maverick_ | okay scratch that. i found a way around it | 16:53 |
| error21 | rm .ICEauthority but when restart the same problem | 17:21 |
| error21 | can help someone? | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | Would you expand the question? Same problem leaves a lot of questions... | 17:22 |
| error21 | I can`t log in | 17:23 |
| error21 | type my user on the login | 17:23 |
| error21 | password | 17:23 |
| error21 | but I can`t login | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | does it do anything? can you log in from a tty using Crtl+Alt+F2? | 17:23 |
| error21 | I have rm .ICEauthority | 17:24 |
| error21 | i log but resend me back | 17:24 |
| error21 | only xterm I can access | 17:24 |
| error21 | not xfce session | 17:24 |
| error21 | be back to try | 17:25 |
| error21 | thanks | 17:25 |
| error21 | I checked | 17:29 |
| error21 | but resend me back to the login form | 17:30 |
| error21 | xubuntu 9.10 | 17:30 |
| error21 | can`t get in | 17:30 |
| error21 | :)) | 17:31 |
| error21 | first say that resolution 800X600 | 17:31 |
| error21 | may be the problem? | 17:32 |
| error21 | ? | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | no | 17:33 |
| error21 | any solution | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | but you can go in through a tty or xterm and delete the following file | 17:33 |
| error21 | i can go | 17:33 |
| error21 | but just in xterm | 17:33 |
| error21 | with xfce no | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | ~/.cache/ | 17:34 |
| error21 | yes | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | just go into xterm then. Use rm -r ~/.cache | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | then we will do one more | 17:34 |
| error21 | ok | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | also do rm -r ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | then restart the computer | 17:36 |
| error21 | done | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | can you log in now? | 17:37 |
| error21 | i will try | 17:37 |
| error21 | no | 17:41 |
| error21 | show something root login | 17:41 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I think we did not get it all done. | 17:41 |
| error21 | and *ERROR* 600 | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | here it is again, stay until you get all of this, because you have to do it all at one time | 17:42 |
| error21 | ok | 17:42 |
| error21 | to be 4ever | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | first, rm -r ~/.cache | 17:42 |
| error21 | can access all time | 17:43 |
| error21 | ok | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | second, rm -r ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | 17:43 |
| error21 | next | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | third, restart the computer without saving anything | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | then try to login through gdm again. | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | Now try that. You have to both rm's without restarting between them or it won't work | 17:44 |
| error21 | ok | 17:44 |
| error21 | no such file | 17:47 |
| error21 | the xml file | 17:47 |
| error21 | in .config | 17:48 |
| error21 | :)) | 17:48 |
| error21 | .config : | 17:51 |
| error21 | audacious | 17:51 |
| error21 | gigolo | 17:51 |
| error21 | orage | 17:52 |
| error21 | autostart | 17:52 |
| error21 | gpicview | 17:52 |
| error21 | Terminal | 17:52 |
| error21 | ... | 17:52 |
| error21 | ? | 17:53 |
| error21 | I have xubuntu 9.04 | 17:54 |
| error21 | update to 8.10 | 17:54 |
| error21 | 9.10 | 17:54 |
| error21 | but can`t join xfce | 17:54 |
| error21 | no idea? | 17:56 |
| error21 | xubuntu 9.04 no more supported | 17:56 |
| error21 | ok bye thanks that all :) moving back to xp | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. | 18:30 |
| xubuntu466 | thx. I'm installing Xubuntu 10.10 and I'm curious to see which kind of help I could expect | 19:19 |
| xubuntu466 | nobody there? | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | We are here, but in a meeting | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | xubuntu466 | 19:20 |
| ubottu | xubuntu466: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 19:20 |
| xubuntu466 | hi, I met problems to install directly Xubuntu without passing through Live cd. Passing through Live cd, instead, all seem to be fine. Just as report. I won't disturb your meeting. Bye and thanks | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. Which version was that? | 19:23 |
| xubuntu466 | 10.10 | 19:24 |
| xubuntu466 | italian language | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | We will look into it | 19:24 |
| xubuntu466 | bye | 19:25 |
| xubuntu466 | quit | 19:25 |
| nicofs | I need help... i more or less wrecked my system, or to be precise, my GTK+... i tried to compile&install a newer version - which went wrong - but now my system is weid. most icons have disappeared, all others have changed. is there a way to fall back to a "clean" xubuntu? | 19:49 |
| Besogon | can't you delete xubuntu-dektop package at all and then install it again? | 19:51 |
| charlie-tca | remove the ppa, remove the new gtk+, install the gtk+ in the repository | 19:51 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, according to synaptic, gtk+ has never been changed... | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | nicofs: go into settings -> Appearance, pick Elementary icons | 19:54 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, i did... no matter which icon pack i choose, it all stays the same... i guess i will have to delete and reinstall xubuntu-desktop... | 19:55 |
| charlie-tca | try it. The package is a meta-package, though. It doesn't really remove anything when you uninstall it | 19:56 |
| Besogon | why not? | 19:56 |
| Besogon | ah yes | 19:57 |
| nicofs | hmm... i could only uninstall gtk and reinstall it - but uninstalling gtk in synaptic removes almost all of my system - and automatically installs KDE... | 20:03 |
| charlie-tca | Instead of removing it, just click it for a install again? | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | Not knowing exactly what was installed hurts. It might not be the actual application you are trying to reinstall, but another lib/app entirely | 20:13 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, could be... i reinstalled it already - no change... all of that, because i wanted pidgin 2.7.9 instead of 2.7.3 ... where has it got me? corrupted system using 2.7.3 ... | 20:19 |
| nicofs | i think i ruined it completely... in synaptic i can't open the repositories menu anymore... i think i will have to remove xubuntu&xfce>k+... | 20:23 |
| nicofs | if i won't login again until Sunday, it hasn't worked^^ | 20:26 |
| arizalord | how do i get extended desktop option in xubuntu? | 20:51 |
| arizalord | for multiple display with different resolution! | 20:51 |
| dr4c4n | arizalord: what is your graphics card? | 20:53 |
| arizalord | dr4c4n: its an ati 200m | 20:54 |
| dr4c4n | arizalord: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide#Dual.2FMulti_Monitors have u tried this? | 20:55 |
| Sysi | if you're using open drivers, try arandr | 20:56 |
| dr4c4n | and aticonfig | 20:56 |
| Sysi | catalyst should include settingsmanager | 20:56 |
| arizalord | ok thx so much, ill try | 20:57 |
| maverick_ | it seems that i have an extra layer on my desktop. like when i add icons. it adds another set that i can not delete or click on. anyone else have this issue? | 21:11 |
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| Guest45936 | i have a question. when i have xubuntu installed and i use a "gnome session" is it any different than the regular ubuntu with gnome? | 21:24 |
| Sysi | you can have different/more programs, different bootup logo and login screen but basically not | 21:26 |
| nicofs | OK. Now my system is gone. I urgently need help to connect to the internet via console. i can start the interface (ifconfig ra0 up) and list available networks (iwlist). i think, i can connect to the networt (how could i check if i'm connectd?) - but dhclient won't work. i simply can't obtain an ip. no ip, no apt-get - and no gui... | 21:36 |
| nicofs | after connecting via "iwconfig [interface] [essid]" - how can i check if i am really connected? and how do i obtain an ip address? please help me... i need to get internet working somehow... | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | You should be able to connect with "ifconfig [interface] up" | 22:06 |
| charlie-tca | You can check it using either iwconfig or ifconfig and see if any bytes are moving | 22:06 |
| charlie-tca | This line says it is transferring bytes, thus connected - | 22:06 |
| charlie-tca | RX bytes:800628 (800.6 KB) TX bytes:800628 (800.6 KB) | 22:06 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca: but "ping google.fr" returns unknown hostname... | 22:13 |
| nicofs | even though bytes have been moved... | 22:14 |
| nicofs | my problem resides with dhcp... | 22:14 |
| gr8m8 | what's in /etc/resolv.conf ? | 22:14 |
| nicofs | gr8m8: i will check... but i'm in dual boot - so it's complicated... hang on... stupid of me... should be able to access it from here... | 22:15 |
| gr8m8 | when you boot into the os make sure the dhcp daemon is running too | 22:16 |
| nicofs | gr8m8: ok. because of android-caused restrictions (no text editor) i can't check here... how could i start dhcp daemon in case it's not running? | 22:18 |
| Besogon | nicofs, What encryption do you have with your Wifi? | 22:19 |
| nicofs | Besogon: it's a hotel WLAN and not encrypted... | 22:19 |
| gr8m8 | I've no idea sudo service dhcpd start maybe I would check it with ps aux | grep dhcp | 22:20 |
| nicofs | ok... i'll check resolv.conf and dhcp daemon... hang on, back in a jiffy, i hope... | 22:22 |
| nicofs | ok... apparently connecting doesn't work proberly... no received or sent packeges are listed. resolv.conf is empty. service dhcpd start returns that there is no such service. | 22:41 |
| Besogon | ok | 22:44 |
| Besogon | up to me I've never started up interface with iwconfig. Was the interface made up? | 22:45 |
| nicofs | i started with ifconfig ra0 up... | 22:46 |
| nicofs | and then i listed networks with iwlist ra0 scanning | 22:46 |
| nicofs | i'm out of options... | 22:49 |
| Besogon | iwlist scanning | 22:50 |
| starfishblub | What would be better for a old laptop xubuntu lts or xubuntu 10.10 | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | depends on how fast you want to update and whether you want the latest and greatest or stabiltiy for 3 years | 22:51 |
| nicofs | Besogon: how is that different to iwlist "ra0" scanning? | 22:52 |
| starfishblub | what is better for use as a student and main computer? | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | starfishblub: personally, I upgrade every 6 months on my work machine, so LTS doesn't work. My server has LTS because I don't want to reinstall things or break it | 22:53 |
| Besogon | I know only that iwlist scanning can give all result on all interfaces... | 22:53 |
| nicofs | Besogon: i only have on interface, ra0. it lists many networks. among them the one i want to connect to... now how do i connect and get an ip address? | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | starfishblub: personal choice. Xubuntu 10.10 is good until april 2012, LTS is a three year distribution. You can upgrade it in two if desired, but it is supported for three. xubuntu 10.04 LTS is good until April 2013 | 22:54 |
| starfishblub | So i should use lts for a server and 10.10 for the laptop? | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | You should use LTS for any server, yes | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how often you want to upgrade as a student, though. | 22:56 |
| starfishblub | I am skilled with ubuntu but am brand new to xubuntu and the laptop is fairly slow with ubuntu. | 22:57 |
| Besogon | nicofs, OK. After all Did you have upped the interface? | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | It's almost the same as far as maintenance | 22:57 |
| starfishblub | So it will have the same features as I am used to? | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | hrm, no | 22:58 |
| Besogon | If so to enable DHCP you need "sudo dhclient ra0" only | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | You might have to work more to get everything working, since we do not set everything up the way Ubuntu does. | 22:59 |
| starfishblub | What are the major differences? | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | If it is a fairly new laptop, go with 10.10 | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | !xubuntu | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 22:59 |
| nicofs | Besogon: dhclient ra0 runs for a while and then tells me that there was nothing to get... | 22:59 |
| starfishblub | Its actually quite old | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | Abiword and Gnumeric instead of OpenOffice.org | 23:00 |
| starfishblub | How different are they? | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | exaile instead of totem, xfburn instead of brasero, parole instead of ??? something | 23:00 |
| Besogon | nicofs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 | 23:01 |
| nicofs | starfishblub: why not use an xubuntu live cd and have a look around? | 23:01 |
| starfishblub | I don't have totem | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | Abiword and gnumeric are full featured, but they are much lighter on resources. They don't get all the extra bells and whistles | 23:01 |
| Besogon | look at section Unencrypted Connection | 23:01 |
| starfishblub | Wine still works the same? | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | maybe it was rythmbox got replaced by exaile? | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | parole is the movie player in Xubuntu | 23:02 |
| starfishblub | oh Its just called movie player in ubuntu | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | mousepad is used instead of gedit | 23:03 |
| starfishblub | Will it have the same syntax and file format fetures.I am learning computer science courses. | 23:03 |
| starfishblub | O:-)) | 23:04 |
| starfishblub | Mistake. | 23:04 |
| starfishblub | Will it be just as good for programming as gedit? | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | I would try the live cd, and give it a look. Keep in mind though, the live cd is slow compared to an installed version | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | starfishblub: yes, it should have | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | gedit is better for programming than mousepad, but you can install it yourself | 23:06 |
| starfishblub | Thanks for your help. | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome. I am sure either choice will be just as good for you | 23:07 |
| Besogon | Ubuntu Software Center has better thing than gedit but it's selling. | 23:08 |
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