[00:00] yup, just what I thought, firefox bug, doesn't work right [00:00] with XFCE [00:01] let me try this fix [00:02] it doesnt work with chromium either. [00:03] i rebooted [00:03] and just nothing happend [00:03] xorg.conf still blank [00:03] did you put anything in xorg.conf? [00:03] resolution the same [00:03] no [00:03] ahh, you gotta put something in there [00:03] freeraider: you have to add the lines you need. It won't add them automatically, since it does not know what to add anymore [00:04] ok, so i just need a higher resolution [00:07] The_Maverick, rebooting, trying a fix [00:07] shootemup alrighty [00:10] freeraider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28xorg\.conf%29#Monitors%20running%20at%20low%20resolution [00:10] The_Maverick, no dice [00:10] still the same [00:11] well i cant get it to work with chromium either [00:11] :( [00:11] it looks like it is about to add it and it just doesnt. [00:12] seems like a xfce just don't work with the drag & drop [00:13] wish I could have been more help, well atleast you know its xfce and not FF [00:13] yeah. i appreciate the effort. [00:16] hum, i can drag images in browser to terminal and it gets their url [00:16] i guess you could go around it by using nautilus [00:16] could make a script [00:17] just a thought [00:17] i dont know how to make scripts or anything like that [00:17] just starting out [00:17] me nither [00:17] :( [00:18] I'm having trouble with the size of my Ubuntu netbook instalation, should I keep messing with it or try this version? [00:18] you could try installing nautilus, it should take over your desktop [00:18] JediMaster420: what kind of problems? [00:19] JediMaster420, how much space is it taking up? [00:20] 3.5gb [00:20] is there a way to create a button that just shuts down the pc, of course without passwrod prompt? [00:20] knome: yes, on the chasis [00:20] it's only a 4gb SSD [00:20] JediMaster420, Ubuntu needs around 10GBs [00:20] I'm running netbook [00:21] have you removed unneeded aplications? [00:21] for a useful install [00:21] knome: but seriously, everything is possible [00:21] ShootEmUp: without version upgrades, 4GB would be fine for any buntu [00:21] I was going through them, but I can't seem to find what is taking up so much space [00:21] true [00:22] JediMaster420: just remove everything you don't need [00:22] I have a ubuntu command line install on 4.3GBs [00:22] openoffice is big [00:22] yeah open office is the first thing i get rid of [00:22] remove OpenOffice if you don't use it [00:22] i have xubuntu and half of kubuntu in 3,5? [00:22] knome: why not? I never have to enter a password when I click quit ;-) [00:23] so how is kubuntu? [00:23] knome: button in panel and prompt after that isn't good? [00:23] kubuntu uses kde [00:24] well, i'd like one click quit [00:24] on laptop taht would be easy with power/sleep button [00:25] "when power button is pressed: ask" but nothing happens [00:25] is kde less of a resource hog than gnome? [00:25] about the same [00:25] The_Maverick: not really [00:25] by default not [00:25] xubuntu is the lightest [00:26] gnome and kde can be thinned with settings [00:26] full xubuntu install = 2.24GB [00:27] yeah really like xubuntu. it is so much easier on my laptop than gnome. i have to wait so long to load browsers and so forth. [00:28] if you like small size ubuntu, try command line installing + Xorg + LXDE or Fluxbox or IceWM [00:29] add only what you need [00:29] office is only 254 mb [00:29] command line install? [00:29] quarter of gigabyte [00:29] "ubuntu server" [00:29] The_Maverick, yup, only on alternate install CD [00:30] or just lubuntu [00:30] gonna record me doing one someday, put on youtube [00:30] keep forgeting to [00:30] it will give me more, but I need to do more. Is there any way to sort by size or view the size of packages? [00:31] knome: in "advanced" xfce settings there are options for that logout ptompt, maybe yo could set easy shutdown there? [00:31] i didn't manage to find it [00:31] JediMaster420, try removing some of the media players [00:31] JediMaster420: just remove anything you don't need desperately [00:31] Sysi, well, it would also be okay if the laptop physical power button would do what is set in the power manager [00:32] you can always install them back [00:32] Sysi, now i am not asked what to do even if i press it... [00:32] JediMaster420: yes [00:32] at least in thunar there is [00:32] knome: it may work after reboot or something [00:32] I keep removing stuff, but I can't find ones big enough to matter [00:32] Sysi, that was the default value [00:32] small things make big difference [00:32] ERRRR [00:33] too small icons fail [00:34] JediMaster420: You can do a directory listing in Terminal, using "ls -sA" which will show all files and directories sorted by size, including hidden files [00:35] or you could try xubuntu [00:36] gotta go now [00:42] the mail/adress book thing is about 80mb [00:42] evolution* [01:42] great, I uninstalled the task bar --; [02:06] and now I can't find it to put it back >< [02:24] sorry but I find this amusing.. the JediMaster has lost his taskbar.. can't u just use mind control? like yoda? [02:25] ~the taskbar will appear~ waves hand in front of monitor [02:25] I'm using the force, aka alt+tab.... [02:25] honestly, if that's the limit of the force, it sounds like u've migrated from windoze [02:26] my apologies [02:26] have you looked @ the forums, for "missing task bar" perhaps that may help the re-installation process [02:26] that's right, this linux stuff just isn;t woth the effort... [02:26] wait wait.. i'm trying to help here.. [02:26] i just found it very amuzing is all [02:26] I got it back, but there is a bit of an error [02:27] quel error? [02:27] what's the error you got? [02:28] restart button was missing, took a sec to sudo reboot [02:28] ah, so now everything is working normally [02:28] good stuff! [02:29] I get this error on boot: OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet has a problem [02:29] and power button still gone [02:30] sudo aptitude install gnome-applets [02:30] :) [02:30] should fix er up [02:31] lemme know what happens [02:36] nope [02:41] got it [02:42] different package: indicator applet session [02:43] good stuff! [02:44] thanks for the help, got 800mb free, gonna have to live with that before I do something really bad @_@ [02:45] for the record, this PC runs Win7, my lapop that only runs vista runs ubuntu, my netbook runs unbutu instead of the asus linux, and my dreambox runs busybox lol [02:45] hehe :) that's what all the funs about [02:46] I learned some linux back in the day, but haven't used it until recently because it's too hard @_@ [02:47] never say it's too hard [02:47] it's just not "user friendly" or "convenient" [02:47] if it was too hard, I wouldn't be able to use it [02:49] whatever you want to call it, it's 2011 and I shouldn't have to use the command line @_@ [02:49] lol, that's half the fun [02:50] you don't know what your missing, or what ur running, or what secrets lie in the stuff you are running then [02:50] I don't know enough of the command line or reverse engineering to figure that out either, but that doesn't mean i'm not interested in it [02:51] I actualy find quite the opposite, I understand and can operate much more with a GUI [02:52] yes, but what's behind that gui, that you are so fond of the convenience of [02:53] I'm not saying there is no place for command line, I'm just saying I shouldn't have to use it. Yes, I'm spoiled by the convenience of winblows, but that doesn;t mean I've ever paid for a copy ;p [03:12] theivery isn't something to be proud of [03:51] Can I host a two person lan party with one machine windows 7 and one xubuntu/ [03:51] Wireless? [03:58] !LAN [03:58] !lan === sresu is now known as sre-su [05:06] hey ich bins wieder [05:06] sry i forgot [05:06] only english ^^ [05:08] i had this problem i cant change my resolution in xubuntu and there was no xorg.conf file so i switched to archlinux.. i just installed it and set up gnome too.. @ archlinuxinstall i can change my resolution changing the framebuffer to 1024*768 [05:08] but if i starx /usr/bin/gnome-session the resolution change again to 800*600 [05:09] and there i cant switch to a higher resolution [05:09] the xorg.conf is blank [05:22] I accidentally created a new wireless network. [05:23] How do I remove it? [05:23] !wifi [05:23] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [05:42] !german [05:42] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [09:24] hi [09:25] how to design ur own desktop themes for xubuntu? === sre-su is now known as sresu === sresu is now known as sre-su [11:54] how do i remove xubuntu-desktop [11:54] (to get back to minimal install incase you dont understand) [11:55] nevermind sudo tasksel saves the day [12:00] i wonder a bit what did he do [12:01] he mean xfce ? [12:01] I wonder too [12:01] i ment compared to: [12:01] !puregnome [12:01] If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome [12:16] how can I install Linux ona laptop that wont boot from CD and has no USB? [12:18] does it have pxe boot option MorphixNW ? [12:18] I cant even find a BIOS setup :( [12:19] its a Panasonic CF-62 [12:19] very old old old [12:19] that'll make it hard... [12:19] you thunk it would run modern os? [12:19] debian yes I do [12:19] you think it wont Sysi? [12:19] depends how old [12:21] it will run a headless system without a hitch, your meant to help, not present a further problem [12:21] if pxe don't work you could maybe take hdd out and install on other machine [12:21] now thats helpful [12:22] I had thought about that one, but was hoping for another solution [12:22] I think that would be easiest [12:22] read my mind [12:22] who wants easy loil [12:22] lol* [12:22] challenges :) [12:25] new machines are all so easy, old relics present challenges :D [12:25] besides I only gave a man 5GBP for it a few years ago [12:26] try new ati :p [12:26] lol [12:27] I have a "PC Specialist Laptop" here thats pretty beastty [12:27] Core 2 Due T660 2.60Ghz, 4GB DDR, 320GB, Radeon 512MB [12:28] just a shames its not mine, its only here for repair [12:28] i'm considering getting mac laptop [12:29] they will run Linux these days :D [12:29] better tan lenovo which was other option [12:29] linux/ubuntu [12:30] I used to like "Thinkpad" but since they sold out and re-branded as "Lenovo" I am with you [12:30] MAC all the way for solid hardware [12:31] they have some HW issues too, but mb air is just so sweet [12:32] pretty little thing with c2d [12:50] Hello Everyone! [12:57] hello, how can I do the settings for vinagre [12:57] I'm using xfce === Aderlass_ is now known as Aderlass [13:01] hello, how can I do the settings for vinagre [13:01] I'm using xfce [13:01] from the program? [13:02] Sysi, no setting password etc [13:02] Sysi, cant find how to do that , in ubuntu it was somwhere under systewmsettigs, but xfce? [13:03] you want to set up vnc server? vinagre is just a client [13:06] Sysi, yes, I also dont now how/where to start the vnc server [13:07] you should try vino [13:08] oops, not installed...hm, thought this is already default [13:08] in ubuntu i think it is [13:08] !info vino [13:08] vino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 159 kB, installed size 512 kB [13:09] is optional [13:09] it still could be there by default i think? [13:09] not installed by default [13:10] can be so, i don't use gnome [13:13] ok, its vino-preferences. But is there a menue where you have access to vino-preferences? [13:33] hey there - what desktop env runs Xubuntu with ? [13:33] xfce [13:34] is xfce more lightweight then Gnome/KDE ? [13:34] yes [13:34] is there some good link, where i can see compare ? [13:35] if you have less than 512MB of ram, xubuntu is better than ubuntu. [13:35] xubuntu runs better with 512MB than gnome [13:35] I'll see if I can find you one [13:35] sloow [13:35] i have 2 Gb, but i am less on CPU [13:35] N330 Atmo [13:35] Atom [13:35] no help [13:35] 1.6 Ghz [13:35] wieshka: what exactly do you want to see compared? [13:36] default install performance between versions of Ubuntu [13:36] disable desktop effects, use adblock and maybe noscript and deal with it [13:36] performance measured how? [13:36] most interesting part for me is CPU [13:36] you most likely have a dual-core CPU, in that case ubuntu is the best bet [13:36] there's no "performace" in desktop, just resource usage [13:37] 1.6GHz X 2 [13:37] Sysi: sorry for my english - i meaned resource usage, yes [13:37] cpu usage comes pretty much 100% from applications [13:37] Sysi: my appplications will use ~90 of all 4 CPU threads [13:37] buthow do you measure it? [13:38] wieshka: you could try to find lighter ones [13:38] in basics it is HD Video playback === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [13:38] with Adobe air - very specific aplllications [13:39] many people have preformace problems when Ubuntu One is running [13:39] my netbook played video better when i removed pulseaudio [13:39] your video playback speed won't change [13:39] with xubuntu [13:40] because when playing video, all the cpu is used by that application anyways [13:40] so changing the environment that launched it won't help you [13:40] TheSheep: i am not trying to improvemy video playback - it is ok. The problem is, that i also have some background proceses, what can hang video, so every % of CPU usage is importnant [13:41] hmmmm, maybe i should try 64 bit instead of 32 [13:42] you can't go over what you HW is capable [13:45] how stable is Maverick Meerkat - i mean for production use, not personal/test [13:45] or better is to choose Lynx ? [13:45] Maerick Meerkat is stable [13:46] stable versions should be stable [13:46] if lts works, i'd recommend it [13:46] "not working" is best reason for update [14:04] Hello everyone! Hallo zusammen! [14:06] kann mir jemand bei der Auflösungseinstellung helfen? [14:06] can anyone help me with the screen resolution? [14:06] sure [14:06] whats the problem? [14:07] graphic: Intel 845 on xubuntu 10.10, I can't change my resolution [14:07] how are you trying to change your resolution? [14:08] under "settings for xfce 4" I can't pick different resolutions [14:08] the drop down menu doesnt open.... [14:08] under settings -> monitors right? [14:08] how to fix login in Xubuntu 9.10? [14:09] ....not for resolution, and neither for refresh rate [14:09] kuzorra: try arandr [14:09] wait a sec, I'll check for that [14:09] I think it's called "display", "Anzeige" in German [14:10] @sysi I googled for my problem, I don't know arandr, so that doesn't help without further instructions [14:10] I have update xubuntu to 9.10 change resolution and then can`t login [14:11] kuzorra, try sudo apt-get install lxrandr [14:11] then run lxrandr [14:11] there is only one display listed [14:11] I just installed xubuntu on an old pc, using a 14" screen.... [14:12] ...ubuntu & suse worked well with this screen [14:12] arandr is easy, GUI [14:12] just install it [14:13] someone? [14:13] xorg and kernel versions matter with HW(gpu) compability [14:14] how do I copy&paste into a terminal window? [14:14] paint and middle click is fastest [14:14] or shift ctrl v [14:14] ctrl + shift + v [14:14] error21: could you be more exact? [14:15] i update xubuntu [14:15] to 9.10 [14:15] and when i try to login [14:15] is 9.10 faster than 10.10 [14:15] 9.10 has EOL soon too.. [14:15] shouldn't be faster [14:15] i can`t log in [14:16] it just pops back to login? [14:16] yes [14:16] I select xt ... and log [14:16] press ctrl alt F1 to get to virtual terminal, log in there [14:16] and then? [14:16] ctrl alt F7 or F8 is back to graphical [14:17] rm .ICEauthority [14:17] ok [14:17] ok [14:17] that `s all? [14:17] okay, I ran lxrandr [14:17] try [14:17] kuzorra, and what happend? [14:17] thanks [14:18] screen popped up, but still just one resolution listed [14:18] error21: it worked? np [14:18] or "automatic" as resolution and refresh rate [14:18] now I try [14:19] kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ lxrandr [14:19] xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default [14:19] xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default [14:20] that was written in terminal after that [14:20] okay [14:21] tried again, still the same [14:21] at least the pull down menu opens, which it dioesn't under xfce settings [14:21] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try that [14:22] tried that before, but I#ll check again [14:22] nothing happened [14:23] check resolution with lxrandr again? [14:23] sill the same [14:23] type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [14:23] btw: should I have a working xorg.conf under xububntu 10.10? [14:24] and tell me whats in it [14:24] you don't need one [14:24] but sometimes is helps [14:24] shouldn't need [14:24] nothing, just a blank file is opened [14:24] I looked for that file under file management before, but couldn't find one [14:25] even with hidden files shown [14:25] it isn't there by default [14:25] google told me that Intel 845 had problems under former ubuntus too [14:26] maybe there is a vesa driver used instead? [14:26] does it make a big differnce....and if, how do I check and change that? [14:27] no, it should be about monitor detecting [14:28] lxrandr says "standard monitor" is detected [14:28] does xubuntu automatically pick the right driver for Intel 845? [14:29] it trys [14:29] basically best [14:29] how do I find out which driver is in use? [14:30] lspci -k [14:30] kuzorra try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel [14:31] then reboot [14:31] kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel [14:31] Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig [14:31] Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut [14:31] Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig [14:31] xserver-xorg-video-intel ist schon die neueste Version. [14:31] Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt: [14:31] linux-headers-2.6.35-22 linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic [14:31] Verwenden Sie »apt-get autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen. [14:31] 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. [14:31] kuzorra@kuzorra-linux:~$ [14:31] which basically tells me that nothing was changed [14:32] I got that, let me search some more [14:33] i'll reboot and be back soon [14:33] ok [14:33] thanks for your help! [14:39] charlie-tca, long time no see! [14:40] I am hiding these days... ;-) [14:40] from who? [14:40] everyone? [14:40] ohh, ok [14:40] Good Morning, ShootEmUp [14:40] good morning to you too [14:42] so what you been up to? [14:42] same as always... bugs, testing, and other [14:42] well... my wii broke :( [14:43] my daughters too [14:43] it was 4 years old, though [14:43] dirty lens of death [14:43] mines 1 year [14:43] This one won't spin at all [14:43] geting a cleaning disk, hoping it works. [14:44] Pretty sure not spinning is not good ;-) [14:44] mine spins, but can't play dual-layered games [14:45] sounds like the laser... either dirty or out of line [14:45] * TheSheep is scavenging cd drives for motors [14:45] yeah dirty laser, can still play gamecube games [14:49] geting the cleaning disk tonight! hopfully can play some black ops later [14:50] heh [14:52] what? Black ops on wii not your liking? [14:54] I finally learned how to put the disks in the thing [14:54] I have ever used the wii, myself. [14:54] you put it in the front [14:55] Thank you [14:55]