| gnomelogger | Riddell: /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kresources_shared_akonadi.mo | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| gnomelogger | Riddell: libkdepim4 4:4.5.93-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 | 00:09 |
| gnomelogger | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch sort of changelog: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/changelog | 00:16 |
| EagleScreen | I ma wtaching a *.install file as reference | 01:04 |
| EagleScreen | it only has the target files to be installed | 01:04 |
| gnomelogger | Riddell: did you fall asleep? | 01:04 |
| Riddell | gnomelogger: I'm busy packaging! | 01:04 |
| Riddell | I also don't care much about computer games | 01:04 |
| gnomelogger | Riddell: you should for that one :D | 01:04 |
| EagleScreen | I ma curious how Debian/Ubuntu knows the origin file to copy | 01:05 |
| Riddell | EagleScreen: make install is run | 01:05 |
| Riddell | that installs the files into debian/tmp | 01:05 |
| gnomelogger | well actually dh_install I believe | 01:06 |
| Riddell | and the .install file tell debhelper which .deb to put it into | 01:06 |
| Riddell | by coping the file from debian/tmp to debian/<package>/ which gets made into the .deb | 01:06 |
| EagleScreen | the current make install installs all in /usr/local/share........, will dh_install install them in /usr/share instead? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr | 01:07 |
| Riddell | that's how it's configured | 01:07 |
| EagleScreen | well | 01:08 |
| Riddell | then after `make` the packaging runs `DESTDIR=debian/tmp make install` and the files get installed into debian/tmp/usr/... | 01:08 |
| EagleScreen | to know which files must I include in the .deb, I ma using the 'make install' output, am I doing it well? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | then dh_install copies to debian/<package>/usr/... which gets made into the .deb | 01:09 |
| EagleScreen | * to know which files to write in the .install | 01:09 |
| Riddell | EagleScreen: does the package make more than one .deb file? | 01:09 |
| EagleScreen | I want it to do it (binary and debugging symbols) I am working in packaging KDE4 verison of Kdbg | 01:10 |
| Riddell | dh_install --list-missing | 01:11 |
| Riddell | that might help | 01:11 |
| Riddell | should give you a list of files that need to be added to .install files | 01:11 |
| EagleScreen | I got this: | 01:12 |
| EagleScreen | $ dh_install --list-missing | 01:12 |
| EagleScreen | dh_install: kdbg missing files (), aborting | 01:12 |
| Riddell | well that'll only work if the source package has been built | 01:13 |
| Riddell | if you want to install all files you should be able to just put "usr/" into the .install file | 01:13 |
| Riddell | that'll copy the whole directory | 01:13 |
| EagleScreen | and is it good? I don't see any reason to not copy some files | 01:14 |
| Riddell | yes, I expect it's what you want | 01:14 |
| EagleScreen | ok, thanks | 01:15 |
| Riddell | if you only make one .deb package then you don't need a .install file at all, it'll just put all the files into the package. but you have a dbg package that might not be the case | 01:15 |
| EagleScreen | I understand | 01:16 |
| EagleScreen | do you recommend some argument to run lintian with? | 01:21 |
| Riddell | I just run it as "lintian" | 01:22 |
| * gnomelogger also meant to por the list missing foo -.- | 01:23 | |
| gnomelogger | meh | 01:23 |
| gnomelogger | so much todo | 01:23 |
| gnomelogger | :( | 01:23 |
| EagleScreen | I can't create a natty enviroment with pbuilder, I get this: http://pastebin.ca/2039969 | 01:26 |
| EagleScreen | (I am running Debian testing right now) | 01:26 |
| yofel | EagleScreen: make sure you have '--keyring' '/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg' in your DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS for ubuntu pbuilders | 01:28 |
| yofel | EagleScreen: here's how I do it for debian, like 69f http://paste.ubuntu.com/551331/ | 01:29 |
| yofel | *line 69f | 01:29 |
| EagleScreen | can it go in .pbuilderrc? | 01:29 |
| EagleScreen | Isee | 01:30 |
| yofel | (that's my pbuilderrc btw.) | 01:30 |
| * yofel is off to bed, good night | 01:30 | |
| gnomelogger | that sould not be needed unless you override the default rc | 01:31 |
| Riddell | 4.5.95 uploaded to natty | 01:31 |
| Riddell | will do maverick tomorrow morning | 01:31 |
| gnomelogger | sweet | 01:31 |
| EagleScreen | I have this: http://pastebin.ca/2039980 and the error is still here | 01:38 |
| EagleScreen | yofel: any idea? | 01:40 |
| EagleScreen | yofel: the right option is "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg" look at the '=' | 02:52 |
| stalcup | Riddell: ScottK https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages | 05:09 |
| ScottK | stalcup: We need someone to test them then. | 05:28 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I don't see an upload for kde4libs (4.5.95 on natty). I'm not going to do it though in case you didn't upload it on purpose (do check bzr though as I found one small thing after I uploaded to the PPA). | 05:34 |
| valorie | it there no way to tell muon to just update everything which needs updating? | 07:11 |
| valorie | I am not gonna do them one by one | 07:11 |
| valorie | eh, I'll just do it with apt-get | 07:29 |
| valorie | easier | 07:29 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| ulysses | I have an error during the upgrade from KDE 4.6 RC1 to RC2 in Natty | 09:49 |
| ulysses | /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers_4%3a4.5.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): | 09:50 |
| ulysses | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/metadata.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu1 | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: wheee | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i found web browsing to be faster in general | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: it would be nice to get a option to turn off bluetooth in bluedevil | 10:06 |
| hrw | hi | 10:35 |
| hrw | bug 699773 | 10:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 699773 in kdeartwork (Ubuntu) " trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/metadata.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu1 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699773 | 10:36 |
| ulysses | hm, I can confirm it | 10:36 |
| hrw | added report from dpkg --force-overwrite -i | 10:37 |
| yofel | ulysses: huh? | 10:37 |
| yofel | I fixed that yesterday... | 10:37 |
| ulysses | I updated today | 10:37 |
| ulysses | an aóhour ago | 10:38 |
| hrw | I just updated my system | 10:38 |
| ulysses | hour… | 10:38 |
| yofel | Riddell: you did not merge my kdeartwork branch before uploading... | 10:38 |
| hrw | heh... I love how plymouth disbehaves on my computers ;D | 10:40 |
| Riddell | yofel: oh foo sorry | 10:41 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: master has it | 11:04 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | afiestas: kewl thanks :D | 11:48 |
| ulysses | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/kepek/oxygentransparent.png | 12:09 |
| Riddell | pretty | 12:13 |
| Trouble | Ooooh yea, that is looking good! | 12:27 |
| Trouble | kdm : Depends: libkworkspace4 (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa2) but 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 is to be installed | 12:33 |
| Riddell | Trouble: amd64 or i386? | 12:35 |
| Trouble | amd64 | 12:35 |
| Trouble | Also... kdm : Depends: kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa2) but 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 is to be installed | 12:35 |
| markey | where is apachelogger? | 12:36 |
| markey | I need to kill him a bit | 12:36 |
| markey | just a bit | 12:36 |
| markey | he posted a pic on Facebook | 12:37 |
| markey | from me | 12:37 |
| markey | good thing that is says "Mark Shuttleworth" | 12:37 |
| markey | I'm totally resembling him | 12:37 |
| Riddell | Trouble: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages says kdm has 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 | 12:38 |
| skfin | How do you kill him a bit? Like you stab him with knife but just a bit? | 12:38 |
| markey | axe murdering, I think | 12:38 |
| markey | ah, he is hiding as gnomelogger | 12:39 |
| skfin | markey: That is killing him properly, not a bit | 12:39 |
| ulysses | gnome?:o traitor! | 12:39 |
| markey | skfin: also fine | 12:39 |
| skfin | Okay | 12:39 |
| Trouble | Riddell: Hmmmm yes I see! Let me see if I can work out what is going wrong | 12:41 |
| Trouble | I wonder if it's to do with this error from apt-get update that has suddenly appeared: "W: Bizarre Error - File size is not what the server reported 87850 78089" | 12:41 |
| Trouble | Riddell: It's okay now! Sorry to have bothered you :) | 12:46 |
| * Trouble kicks LaunchPad | 12:47 | |
| yofel | I see that error too rather frequently with the ninjas PPA, wonder what's wrong with apt.. | 12:47 |
| yofel | or launchpad, right.. | 12:47 |
| * Trouble kicks apt-get for good measure | 12:47 | |
| daitheflu | hi guys, I wonder if someone knows how to use KServices with PyKDE4 ? I'd like to make a plugin-based app | 12:48 |
| * jussi kicks Trouble... | 12:49 | |
| * Trouble gives jussi some trouble | 12:49 | |
| * jussi kicks Trouble... OUT! | 12:50 | |
| Trouble | lol | 12:50 |
| Trouble | /kickban! | 12:50 |
| jussi | Trouble: are you asking for trouble? | 12:51 |
| * yofel had a knockout script for xchat once to do that for a limited time ^^ | 12:51 | |
| * Trouble cracks up | 12:51 | |
| jussi | daitheflu: Im sorry to be so inattentive to your question, I just dont know the answer | 12:51 |
| Trouble | My first name is Justin...# | 12:51 |
| Trouble | Justin Trouble :D | 12:51 |
| jussi | now that is a complete dad joke :P | 12:51 |
| Trouble | Just-in Trouble (for the slow people) | 12:51 |
| yofel | you indeed have a troublesome name ^^ | 12:51 |
| daitheflu | jussi: no worries :) | 12:52 |
| Trouble | My real surname isn't actually Trouble btw ;-) | 12:52 |
| jussi | Trouble: you know what we do with troublemakers here... :D | 12:52 |
| * jussi gets out the banhammer :P | 12:52 | |
| markey | Riddell: K3B is borked in Maverick with RC1 updates | 12:56 |
| yofel | markey: what happened? | 12:56 |
| markey | Riddell: says: "Unable to fixate disk. cdrecord has no permission to open the device." | 12:56 |
| markey | a HAL issue? | 12:56 |
| Trouble | lol banhammer :D | 12:57 |
| markey | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/9RegQyTA | 12:57 |
| markey | debug output from K3B | 12:57 |
| * jussi drags Trouble to #kubuntu-offtopic - shh, theres workers in here!!! :D | 12:58 | |
| Trouble | I would never have guessed there was somewhere for offtopic Kubuntu chat from the way apachelogger goes on and on in here ;-p | 13:00 |
| * jussi waves in the sabdfl's direction | 13:03 | |
| * yofel does an update test for 4.5.5 in the meanwhile | 13:04 | |
| Riddell | markey: yeah, try installing hal | 13:05 |
| Riddell | we need to talk to upstream about that | 13:05 |
| Riddell | daitheflu: I'm afraid pykde guru sime isn't around currently (he's had a baby), probably best to e-mail the kdebindings list or the pyqt list | 13:06 |
| yofel | stalcup: kdeutils 4.5.5 is missing | 13:06 |
| daitheflu | Riddell: thanks for the advice, I'll try the mailing-lists | 13:07 |
| markey | Riddell: how to install HAL? | 13:09 |
| markey | maybe I should run K3B with sudo? | 13:10 |
| yofel | sudo apt-get install hal if it's missing | 13:10 |
| * yofel wonders if ppa.launchpad.net will ever have mirrors... | 13:11 | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| yofel | hey Quintasan | 13:13 |
| Quintasan | yofel: \o | 13:13 |
| Quintasan | What's with sip? | 13:13 |
| markey | yofel: thx | 13:14 |
| Quintasan | yofel: POX mailed me that there are stil some problems with sip, I will probably get everthing sorted out today | 13:16 |
| yofel | ok, I'm on an off today and will be gone for a while later, just ping me when sip works | 13:17 |
| Quintasan | Okay, | 13:17 |
| yofel | grr, keyboard-configuration in natty is annoying | 13:17 |
| Quintasan | Can't we remove this stuff? | 13:18 |
| Quintasan | I can't even figure out what it does | 13:18 |
| === gnomelogger is now known as markeylogger | ||
| markeylogger | my head files like someone played football with it | 13:21 |
| markeylogger | :S | 13:21 |
| Quintasan | markeylogger: Ain't that because you got drunk? | 13:22 |
| yofel | markeylogger: any plans to update phonon-backend-gst in natty? I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/551474/ | 13:26 |
| yofel | vlc backend works fine at least | 13:27 |
| === markeylogger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| apachelogger | yofel: make a snapshot :P | 13:27 |
| yofel | hm, _Groo_ had daily builds I think, maybe I'll test that later | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | phonon 4.4.4 comes out the day KDE 4.6 final is getting tagged | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | (someting 19 or so) | 13:28 |
| yofel | ah, cool | 13:28 |
| ulysses | KDE 4.6 will be tagged at 19th january | 13:29 |
| Quintasan | blame apachelogger for every breakage as we usually do and we will be fine ;) | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | talkign about that | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | it would be very cool if project neon could become usable at some point | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | every day that it is not published and advertised and used is a wasted one | 13:34 |
| yofel | apachelogger: sure thing, wanna fix0r bug 109114 while waiting? | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 109114 in Bazaar "[master] bzr holds whole files in memory; raises MemoryError on large files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109114 | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | so bzr is blocking again? | 13:42 |
| yofel | sure, it's blocking kdelibs, kdebase, kdepim and something else | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | see, here is the thing, if you guys had a blog you could start some public ranting, pissing the bzr devs off and thus getting this fixed | 13:42 |
| yofel | apachelogger: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus | 13:42 |
| yofel | ah, and qt | 13:43 |
| * yofel gets something to eat, bbl | 13:43 | |
| * apachelogger needs to work on the ubuntu contact book stuff | 13:44 | |
| apachelogger | oi vey | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | also a UDS essentials lists in order, so no one shall forget their bathingsuite no more | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: can you please stop markey from always wanting skype sessions :P | 13:48 |
| Quintasan|Droid | yofel: how do fix this kdm bug? | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: !!! | 13:49 |
| Quintasan|Droid | apachelogger: piiiing | 13:49 |
| Quintasan|Droid | apachelogger: did u update to rc2? | 13:49 |
| * apachelogger shows Quintasan|Droid a nakkid picture of kubotu and hopes to scare him away | 13:49 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan|Droid: no, jr did | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | did he break something? | 13:50 |
| Quintasan|Droid | Hurrr | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | oh | 13:50 |
| * apachelogger cant read quite well today | 13:50 | |
| Quintasan|Droid | Dunno, kdm mumbles something about ethias dir no being available | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan|Droid: only on what is yet available on 10.10 | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that hought to be fixed in natty and a fix for 10.10 coming today jr said | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan|Droid: just edit your kdmrc | 13:50 |
| Quintasan|Droid | I has natty lol | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | then possibly his fix was insufficient *shrug* | 13:51 |
| yofel | Quintasan|Droid: switch to horus theme or instal kdebase-workspace-wallpapers and kdewallpapers | 13:52 |
| yofel | ethais was cut into pieces | 13:52 |
| * apachelogger looks at his inbox, sees a couple of bug report labels lighting up and decides to not read mails today | 13:53 | |
| yofel | lol | 13:53 |
| Quintasan|Droid | Wtf | 13:53 |
| Quintasan|Droid | yofel: where do I change this? | 13:53 |
| Quintasan|Droid | I need path since my terminal is somehow split | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | there is stuff like "Applications with phonon-vlc crashes at startup" | 13:54 |
| Quintasan|Droid | Like the prompt starts on the right side of the screen and ends at the left | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | of which I am sure is either fixed or only affecting opensuse | 13:54 |
| yofel | Quintasan|Droid: set 'Theme' in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc, now I need to find out what the path was... | 13:55 |
| yofel | grr, both my upgraded pcs are off :S | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | same as ethias | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | just with horos | 13:56 |
| yofel | Quintasan|Droid: just look yourself what the new theme is called in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/horos I believe | 13:56 |
| yofel | yeah, can't remember the exact name | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: btw, according to golem phonon is an audio backend, whereas xine is a video backend | 13:57 |
| yofel | yep, horos | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | I love them very much | 13:57 |
| yofel | ^^ | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | I only read their crap every once in a while, and yet they manage to always have news to piss me off big time | 13:58 |
| Quintasan | hurp durp | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | yofel: thanks | 13:59 |
| yofel | np | 14:00 |
| Riddell | roar, kdebase-workspace artwork is going to kill me | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kdebase is currently depwait on an updated kde-sv-dev-latest, but it's not been updated. Should we update kde-sc-dev-latest or bump down the build-dep version in kdebase? | 14:08 |
| Riddell | yes meta-kde should get uploaded | 14:09 |
| Riddell | I'm just stressing at kdebase-workspace just now | 14:09 |
| ScottK | OK. I can take care of that. | 14:11 |
| Riddell | thanks | 14:11 |
| 84XABIUT3 | hello all.. does someone know when this workaround will be used? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/604122 i need to put some files on my sd-card.. | 14:19 |
| 84XABIUT3 | :s | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 604122 in linux (Ubuntu) "mmc0: Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:19 |
| 84XABIUT3 | or where is a workaround-kernel which is easy to install? | 14:21 |
| ScottK | Done. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | 84XABIUT3: Help is in #ubuntu or #kubuntu. | 14:21 |
| 84XABIUT3 | ok, thanks | 14:22 |
| 84XABIUT3 | ScottK: do you know the solution? i asked, but since now, no one answered.. and i'm a bit in a hurry :s | 14:24 |
| ScottK | 84XABIUT3: No. I haven't had that problem. | 14:25 |
| 84XABIUT3 | ok.. | 14:25 |
| Quintasan | 84XABIUT3: You'd better ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | 84XABIUT3: and you need to be veeeeery patient to get answer there | 14:27 |
| 84XABIUT3 | damn : | 14:27 |
| 84XABIUT3 | :s | 14:27 |
| 84XABIUT3 | why isn't it workarounded by CONFIG_MMC_RICOH_MMC=n ?!? | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | we do not know, as Quintasan indicated #ubuntu-kernel is where kernel matters are discussed | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | 84XABIUT3: We're just making Kubuntu,not kernel | 14:30 |
| CIA-39 | [muon] jmthomas * 1212588 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/CMakeLists.txt Somehow the adding of the icons directory to CMakeLists.txt got undone... | 14:31 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did you get my ping a couple of days ago RE checking symbol changes in kde4libs/pimlibs for 4.5.95? Do you think you'll be able to look at it? | 14:34 |
| ScottK | http://pastebin.com/yw84BitX is kde4libs in case you missed it. | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: nope, I hadn't gotten that ping. I can take a look at it | 14:36 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Thanks. I can't seem to find my pimlibs diff, but it's in the archive now, so you can look at the build logs there. | 14:36 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Please wait until after kde4libs finishes on armel and powerpc to upload an update if you come up with one. | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | Desktop effects are really smooth now! | 14:54 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Reading https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2011-January/001379.html I'm left wondering if we shouldn't set reboot required for full KDE SC version updates? | 15:32 |
| markey | re | 15:33 |
| markey | Riddell: | 15:36 |
| markey | "hal is already the newest version." | 15:36 |
| markey | it was installed... | 15:36 |
| ScottK | markey: I think the thing that was causing k3b to fail even when hal was installed is fixed in rc2 | 15:38 |
| ScottK | If not, I suspect afiestas is the person to talk to. | 15:38 |
| afiestas | I'm not :p | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: we should | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | also I have a bug about that somewhere | 15:40 |
| markey | ScottK: ah, cool | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/379820 | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/379820) | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | nice that it timed out | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | love it | 15:41 |
| markey | ScottK: is RC2 in backports now? | 15:42 |
| ScottK | No idea. I've just been following Natty. | 15:42 |
| ScottK | It's uploaded there, but still building. | 15:42 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm, I'm not sure what the problem is for that ubuntu-qa person, the upgrade should be ABI compatible | 15:42 |
| Riddell | having a "log out" notifier wouldn't be a bad idea though | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: desktop file foobar | 15:43 |
| Riddell | what's changed in the desktop file? | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | I dunno | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | at any rate a log out would solve the problem | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | could also be that an interface in kded changed and kate used the old one or somesuch | 15:44 |
| Riddell | yay, the maverick upgrade to 4.5.95 worked! | 15:44 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: All of which shouldn't happen in a point release. | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | without backtrace it is hard to tell what exactly went wrong | 15:44 |
| ScottK | I've got one lucid machine here still on 4.4.2. I'll see if I can replicate it on upgrade over the weekend. | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, kate shouldnt crash either ;) | 15:46 |
| * apachelogger pours himself a glass of baileys | 15:46 | |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/676663 still needs lucid verification | 15:47 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: well, that will be hard, just decline :) | 15:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 676663 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu Lucid) "Kopete ICQ plugin broken due to login server change" [Medium,Fix committed] | 15:47 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: about Golem: WTF? | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: that is so difficult with his puppy eyes and snoring ;) | 15:48 |
| yuriy_work | FWIW: there is a really annoying scrolling bug in 4.6 beta on Maverick (using fglrx). Only the top and bottom couple of lines seem to scroll in konsole and akregator | 15:50 |
| ScottK | Look slike a git snapshot of k3b might be worth trying. | 15:52 |
| ScottK | yuriy_work: We're on RC2 now. Still a problem? | 15:52 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Actually it doesn't. Just mark it fixed released. In lucid it got rolled in with the 4.4.5 update. | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | ok | 15:53 |
| ScottK | Be sure to remove the verification-needed tag too | 15:53 |
| Riddell | blamo! for asdf in kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebindings kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kde4libs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepimlibs kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev oxygen-icons; do echo ${asdf}; copy-package.py -s maverick -p kubuntu-ninjas -b --to-suite=maverick --to-ppa=kubuntu-ppa --to-ppa-name=beta ${asdf} -y; done | 15:54 |
| Riddell | oh hmm, probably didn't want kdebindings in there | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: it is already at verification-done anyway | 15:54 |
| ScottK | OK | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: intersting variable name :P | 15:54 |
| ScottK | He favors that one | 15:55 |
| ScottK | Probably somehow tied to his use of emacs. | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | not for long, as we will remove the emacs along with the pyth0nr | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 15:56 |
| Riddell | contrary to rumour emacs key bindings aren't four random keys :) | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | unless emacs gets rewritten in java | 15:56 |
| * Riddell rewrites apachelogger in lisp | 15:56 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: only semi-random? :P | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | uhhh | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | common lisp plz | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | http://shawn.hamman.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lisp-programmers.jpg | 15:56 |
| * apachelogger likes erlang :D | 15:57 | |
| yuriy_work | ScottK: haven't updated yet. i figured the status in here meant it wasn't ready | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | so | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | since I am not very motivated to do anything ... anything anyone wants me to work on? | 15:59 |
| * apachelogger could probably do the vlc SRU to fix phonon-vlc crashes | 15:59 | |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: http://www.golem.de/1101/80445.html | 16:00 |
| yuriy_work | actually i'm running RC1, and don't see RC2 in beta repo yet. and this is happening in konqueror as well, just not as consistently | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | "Wenn die entsprechende Magnet-URI im Webbrowser Konqueror aufgerufen wird, wird der Videostrom per Ktorrent-Dbus an das Audiobackend Phonon und das Videobackend Xine übertragen. " | 16:00 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Would you be willing to chat with k3b upstream and see if they plan a bugfix release soon? Looking at their git log it seems they've accumulated a fair number of bug fixes, including one or two changes that may relate to the hal transition. | 16:02 |
| Riddell | could you sort out my mortgage too please? | 16:02 |
| Riddell | oh and pack my bags for dallas, that would be handy | 16:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Are you planning on covering the release meeting or would you rather I did it so you can keep wrestling with packages? | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oi! i have no sound | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | I rather chat with upstream :P | 16:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: oh aye, thanks for reminding me. I can do it | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: OTOH k3b upstream is release lazy | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | one always has to force him into releaseing stuff :P | 16:03 |
| Riddell | yuriy_work: are you on maverick? | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that is very forutnate | 16:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: There's a task for you then. | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: means more work gets done | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also, please get your bloggy blog aggregated on all the planets on planet earth and rant about bzr blocking neon and stuff | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: my interwebz is all sorts of fail .... i finally got it working after a days work | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: they fixed a mem bug | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ^^ | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | from what i can remember | 16:05 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: that jt guy at Golem is really an idiot. He basically translated from whilo's blog: http://whilos.blogsite.org/?p=157 and what he didn't understand he just made up, how stupid is that! | 16:05 |
| Mamarok | and it is always him, they should fire that idiot | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | that is golem right there | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | maybe I should write a letter to the BBC | 16:05 |
| yuriy_work | Riddell: yes | 16:05 |
| Riddell | yuriy_work: RC 2 is about to appear in the beta PPA, are you able to test? | 16:06 |
| yuriy_work | Riddell: yeah | 16:06 |
| * shadeslayer is still operating @ 20KBps | 16:07 | |
| shadeslayer | flipping ISP madness | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | stuff is down all over New Delhi ... | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: did I not fix the hal issues? | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | took me a day to just upgrade to RC2!!! | 16:08 |
| * apachelogger seems to remember backporting something from upstream | 16:08 | |
| shadeslayer | also | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | blogging | 16:08 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No idea, but I thought that's what markey was whining about. | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that is what you get for living on the north pole | 16:08 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I think he's on the east pole. | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | east pole then | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: markey is always whining about smth :P | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: more likely is that someone did not backport my k3b fix | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | as I only applied it in natty | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | apparently theyre upgrading infrastructure and im supposed to be getting a bandwidth upgrade | 16:09 |
| Riddell | he was moaning that someone put a picture of him on facebook earlier | 16:09 |
| ScottK | Probably. | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | the strangest thing! | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | someone apparently hacked my facebook account | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | and put pictures of markey online | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | very weird | 16:09 |
| Riddell | the cads | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google cads | 16:10 |
| kubotu | Results for cads: 1. CADS: Help for Skiers Knees: http://www.cads.com/ | 2. Center for Advanced Defense Studies | Innovation for Peace: http://www.c4ads.org/ | 3. Cad | Define Cad at Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cad | 16:10 |
| Riddell | nope, none of them | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | stupid google | 16:10 |
| Riddell | kubotu: google cad | 16:10 |
| kubotu | Results for cad: 1. Ctrl-Alt-Del Comic: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/ | 2. Computer-aided design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design | 3. Atlanta CAD Services, Inc. Training in Norcross, Georgia, United ...: http://www.training-classes.com/providers/00/07/724_atlanta_cad_services_inc_.php | 16:10 |
| Riddell | nope, none of them, google isn't posh and english enough | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | its like ive gone back to the era of dialup | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you had faster webs at the east pole? | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | strange enough | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | and then my ISP went : "oh lets upgrade and screw everyone else" | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | so here i am | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | getting screwed by Airtel | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: go do the blogging, blogging is esay on the bandwith | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | well | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah .... blogilo is downloading at 10KBps | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | and someone | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | intarwebs over air is bound to be slower than over cable | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | plz2fix kdm | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not when your operating on N band WiFi | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | of course you at the east pole have all sorts of deserts I suppose | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | 150Mbps | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | so | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | you have only local intarwebs? | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | lawl ^^ | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | pretty much ... | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | as surely you still need cablez to get to the rest of the worlds pr0n | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, I am resonable confident that k3b in natty does not exhibit those hal problems | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | see even kronos is timing out :P | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | if only someone could backport it | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I do not | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you do not what? :P | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | people here time out and change nicks and stuff so often that I turned that off | 16:14 |
| * Trouble gives apachelogger a hug | 16:15 | |
| shadeslayer | oh | 16:15 |
| * apachelogger feels troubled now | 16:15 | |
| shadeslayer | :D | 16:15 |
| markey | wasn't it a bit risky to do the whole HAL nuking in Maverick? | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | no HAL in maverick? 0_o | 16:20 |
| Riddell | markey: well if you have hal installed then it's another issue, something with KDE Platform 4.6 and K3b interaction | 16:21 |
| markey | ok | 16:22 |
| Riddell | there's nothing that removes hal in maverick for people | 16:22 |
| markey | was just wondering, because "upower" was missing here, and half of my ThinkPad stopped working... | 16:22 |
| markey | no power management, no sound... | 16:22 |
| Riddell | markey: yeah I fixed that, added it as a dependency now | 16:22 |
| markey | ah cool | 16:22 |
| markey | nice | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | no sound here either :( | 16:22 |
| markey | shadeslayer: I know the fix | 16:22 |
| Riddell | your feedback is made use of :) | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | شصیشیسیششسبهشتسهبشد | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 16:23 |
| markey | shadeslayer: delete all of the KMix config files | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | i pressed caps | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | and | 16:23 |
| markey | and restart KDE | 16:23 |
| markey | then it works again | 16:23 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do I remember right you were asking mvo to get the distupgrade tool to remove hal? | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | that comes on 0_o | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | markey: whcih files? | 16:23 |
| ScottK | Riddell: IIRC yes. | 16:23 |
| Riddell | ScottK: any response? | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh my | 16:24 |
| markey | shadeslayer: rm -rf $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmix rm $HOME/.kde/share/config/kmixrc | 16:24 |
| Riddell | ScottK: on the seeds, it seems best to make a new seed collection for kubuntu-mobile | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | turning on caps also turns on screen log | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | magic | 16:24 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Kubuntu is full of magic | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | markey: thanks... | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | now to reboot | 16:24 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: All you need to do is restart your KDE session. Reboot isn't needed. | 16:25 |
| Riddell | yuriy_work: RC 2 in beta now, go go testing! | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: magic? | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | where> | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | ? | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | nothing helped | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pressing caps turns on my scroll lock | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | KDM is broken | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | well | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | make that : KDM is *still* broken | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | http://i.imgur.com/N1kNn.png << | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | do not press caps | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | stuff keeps crashing ^_^ | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | OH .. | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | face it | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | your system is fckd | 16:30 |
| * apachelogger ponders upgrading to natty | 16:30 | |
| shadeslayer | there is a bug reported against the dpkg for the caps lock key issue i think | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dont... im going back to maverick | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | just need to zsync 10.10 | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | clearly it needs work then :P | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 16:31 |
| * apachelogger finds it odd that a developer downgrades instead of fixing things :P | 16:31 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i could ... but i haz no bandwidth to fix this | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | for eg | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | well | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | if you did not live at the east pole... | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | in order to fix KDM bug i think i have to install kdebase-workspace-wallpapers | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | which is 60MB ... on a 15-20 KBps connection :P | 16:32 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: actually that should be fixed in the latest version | 16:32 |
| Riddell | I moved the ethais kdm theme back to the kdm package | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: completely updated system | 16:32 |
| Riddell | you could also just change the setting to horos | 16:32 |
| markey | apachelogger: so, how would you like to die? I could do the axe murdering thing, or come when you sleep, and inject some poison | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | from main archives | 16:32 |
| markey | your choice :D | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | markey: why are you killing apachelogger? | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | markey: latter | 16:33 |
| markey | yes. | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | former makes a mess | 16:33 |
| markey | ok | 16:33 |
| markey | apachelogger: when is it convenient for you? could come tomorrow night | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | markey: wait for me too | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: someone hacked my facebook and uploaded nakkid pix of markey | 16:33 |
| Riddell | inject some poison method means you can't donate your organs, that's very selfish | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | markey: I would prefer dying in my own bed | 16:33 |
| markey | shadeslayer: alright, we can put photos of dead apachelogger on Facebook then | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | markey: well ... im killing him because my phonon gstreamer thingy went kaput | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, if markey chops my liver in 4 parts that is not gonna help either | 16:34 |
| markey | and write: "Julias Assange is dead. Here is the proof!" | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 16:34 |
| markey | shadeslayer: yep, another good reason | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: something for you : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/speakal-doctor-who-tardis-speaker-prototype-hands-on/ | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what? | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | pgst kaput? | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | whut? | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | dont mess with me | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | no sound | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | Y U STEAL MY SOUND | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | more like your pulseaudio is dead | 16:34 |
| markey | args, Amarok collection is totally borked. I'm playing Genesis, but they seem to have a female singer now | 16:34 |
| markey | sounds a lot like Bjork | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | cannot open mixer: No such file or directory | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | wth | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | wth | 16:35 |
| markey | shadeslayer: fail | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | markey: happens to me a lot | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | did not quit emanage to pinpoint the cause though | 16:35 |
| markey | apachelogger: that's because of the LSD that you smoke | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | I think for me it is related to external disk loosing connection while amarok is doing a scan | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | markey: leave my addictions out of this | 16:36 |
| markey | nah, what I have here is a recent regression, Ralf borked something last night | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 16:36 |
| markey | I blame the Ralf "Scanner Man" Engels. from the evil kingdom of Nokia | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | markey: why did you let apachelogger click a photo of you when you were sleeping? :P | 16:36 |
| markey | he makes our kode kaput! | 16:36 |
| markey | shadeslayer: erm. I did not do that | 16:37 |
| markey | it was my very nice GF | 16:37 |
| * markey strangles Mamarok | 16:37 | |
| shadeslayer | oic | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | I keep telling you | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | neither Mamarok nor I had anything to do with this | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | maybe it was aaron | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | someone must have entered the house while you were sleeping | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | took the picture | 16:37 |
| markey | Aarron! that bastard! I always suspected that he comes here at night... | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | then hacked my faceookz and uploaded it | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | or | 16:38 |
| ScottK | Probably that's the reason for his new code update service | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | synchrotron!! :D | 16:38 |
| Mamarok | ScottK: you mean the one he didn't invent himself? | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | the synchrotron mail on plasma devel is awesome | 16:39 |
| ScottK | Mamarok: Yes. That one. | 16:39 |
| yuriy_work | RC2 installed without complaints | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: he did not? | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | did he steal it from nokia? | 16:39 |
| markey | apachelogger: see priv msg | 16:40 |
| markey | nakkid photos | 16:40 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: well, there are a few ideas he got from others, like GHNS and such | 16:40 |
| markey | Mamarok: like, all of them? | 16:40 |
| markey | he put them in the tumbler | 16:40 |
| markey | and pressed Play | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also i need to install Vista for some school stuff ... so need to repartition etc | 16:40 |
| markey | but anyway, it's good that this finally comes to reality | 16:40 |
| Mamarok | amongst those others are Amarok developers Ian and Mark | 16:40 |
| markey | yep | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: vbox? | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: tired and failed .... | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | *tried | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | markey: there were no nakkid pix | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | !!! | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | liar | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | also .... steam! :P | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: wah? | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/1964 << systemsettings crash :P | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | my install is completely broken | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i can haz customSendRequest in KIO_HTTP? | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait ... didnt check with new webkit | 16:44 |
| yuriy_work | hey, the upgrade fixed GTK apps being unthemed :) | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: wah? | 16:45 |
| yuriy_work | RC2 seems to be working great so far :) i'll shout if i see the scrolling bug again | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | markey: did you see moby's sunset pix from today on facebook? | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | jolly nice | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do you know how one can delete pix on facebook?: I cannot find the button to remove markey's pic | 16:47 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's not present on the mobile web interface if that's what you're using. You have to use the full site. | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | oh noes | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | I cannot use the full site | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | it does not work | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | I think my ISP is doing something nasty to it | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | too bad, cant remove the picture then ... | 16:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You could PM markey your facebook password and let him do it. | 16:49 |
| markey | apachelogger: we should really have a Skype session this night. only this time, you fall asleep | 16:49 |
| markey | on the keyboard | 16:49 |
| markey | and you set up a web cam | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: it is bad enough that aaron got my password | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | markey: no | 16:50 |
| markey | oh yes! | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | I am going to consum vast amounts of sleeping medication tonight | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | and fix my sleep schedule | 16:50 |
| markey | I thought you do that every night | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | it is all messed up | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | markey: no | 16:50 |
| ScottK | markey: Only if alcohol is considered "sleeping medication" | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ping | 16:51 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: really quick | 16:51 |
| Nightrose | need to run | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: where does one put debug guide how to sort of things? | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | techbase or community? | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | techbase I presume | 16:52 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 16:52 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: koffice 2.3.0 is mostly done and tested, can i send the debian and diff to you by mail? i can only upload stuff this weekend | 16:52 |
| Nightrose | yea probably techbase | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: in particular a page on how to sqeeze more debug output out of phonon | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: kthx :) | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: no, I am doing upstream stuff right now | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: pingy | 16:53 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: can anyone get this task? or should i try do it myself this weekend? will any of you be around to assist me? | 16:53 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i also plan to help with some rc2 packages | 16:54 |
| * apachelogger is always around | 16:54 | |
| * apachelogger is also always drunk | 16:54 | |
| * apachelogger consequently almost never is able to assist with anything | 16:54 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i know but i need you to be in a semi conscient state so you can review my work :D | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: rc2 ought to be done I hear, except for some 10.10 fixes | 16:54 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah im seeing the wiki now? is it in ninjas only? i can update and test the packages | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | probably ninjas | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: why the shrug? :P | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | because I dunno | 16:56 |
| * apachelogger is currently as much involved with kubuntu development as mark the dictator himself | 16:57 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: doing phonon work? | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | yus | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | and working on my actoring | 16:57 |
| _Groo_ | Nightrose: oh Nightrose btw i have done a recipe some time ago, and amarok is now built everyday, if thats interests yiou guys and gals :D | 16:57 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: you are not try to restart your singing career are you? | 16:58 |
| _Groo_ | trying* | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | dude | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | these days you need to be an alround entertaininer | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | singing, acting, dancing, all at once | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | also you need to be blazing hot and stuff | 16:59 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah why did you go with open source in the first place... now you need to entertain for food! | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | I dunno | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | foolish me | 16:59 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: my brain monkey exporting is going well, i dont know where to spend money anymore :D | 16:59 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its sustainable too... i just leave some pregnant monkeys till they "hatch" before i kill them... leave some to reproduce, repeat, profit | 17:00 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and theres a special market for baby monkey brains too... like some gourmet specials | 17:01 |
| kronos | shadeslayer: hmmm.... my internet connection sucks big time.. | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | kronos: shadeslayers too | 17:02 |
| _Groo_ | Nightrose: is amarok able to recognize phonon-gst analyzer now? or still in the works? | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | supposedly I now need to do akunambol myself | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | then again ruphy is MIA anyway so cannot nag me ^^ | 17:02 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Riddell | _Groo_: koffice 2.3.0 is in backports but needs a build-dep fix to make it compile | 17:04 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: well mine is done and tested | 17:04 |
| kronos | apachelogger: released liblikeback ?? | 17:04 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: also did it for maverick, i can send you the debian and diff files if you want | 17:04 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: ok | 17:04 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: unfortunatelly im at work and i cant upload it to launchpad myself | 17:05 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: if the lp guys did a web upload it would make me a happy camper | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | kronos: sort of | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | I habe a tarball for it | 17:06 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Debian has also done 2.3.0. | 17:12 |
| Riddell | groovy, RC 2 installs and runs from beta PPA | 17:12 |
| Riddell | runs very slowly, but that's remote X sessions for you | 17:12 |
| Riddell | time to announce | 17:12 |
| === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch | ||
| _Groo_ | Riddell: who do you trust, apachelogger hubber trainned unoficial minions (me) or the debian devels? | 17:14 |
| Riddell | umm, are you testing my loyalties? :) | 17:16 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: it wasnt really a question :P | 17:16 |
| Riddell | last time I looked we had a delta between us and debian anyway, it's not a sync | 17:16 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: let me put it this way.. its harder to yell at them... | 17:16 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.6-rc-2 | 17:17 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: pong | 17:18 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: k, testing it, last one wasnt that smooth to begin with :P | 17:18 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: you're testing RC 2 on maverick? | 17:18 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: yep | 17:19 |
| Riddell | great, do a reboot after it's installed so you get KDM restarted and make sure it's happy | 17:19 |
| Riddell | now, 4.5.5, what's the crack? | 17:19 |
| Riddell | stalcup? | 17:19 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: the problem last time was with lack of kdenetworks, and akonadi being too old, since im testing latest kmail2 also | 17:20 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: I guess it should not try to remove 20 packages, right? http://pastebin.com/HYdQdLPe | 17:20 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: kdenetwork is updated now | 17:21 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: ideally not... | 17:21 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: yeah everything appears to be ok now, im upgrading | 17:21 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: btw i do nightly builds of ktorrent 1.1.x the next version, but i named the libktorrent as 1, should i bump it to three? since im seeing libtorrent 1.0.3 is called libktorrent2 | 17:22 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: sigh, what happens if you just install kdebase-workspace-bin? | 17:22 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: if the ABI has changed it should get a package version number change yes | 17:23 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:23 |
| Mamarok | kdebase-workspace-bin : Depends: plasma-desktop (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa4) but it is not going to be installed or | 17:23 |
| Mamarok | plasma-netbook (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa4) but it is not going to be installed | 17:23 |
| Mamarok | E: Broken packages | 17:23 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: but wont it brake rc2? since kget compiles with it i believe | 17:24 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: anyway ill make some tests and see how it goes | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: where do you want me to put phonon debug stuff on techbase | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | urlwise | 17:25 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: i386 and amd64? | 17:25 |
| ScottK | amd64 I'd guess | 17:25 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: moment | 17:29 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: somewhere here I would say: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Architecture/KDE4/Phonon | 17:30 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: yes, always amd64 | 17:31 |
| Mamarok | as usual *sigh* | 17:31 |
| * Riddell fires up an amd64 ec2 machine | 17:36 | |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: not some page dedidcated to debugging? | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: I was thinking something within the realm of http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | so it can be easily found | 17:38 |
| === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina | ||
| Riddell | Mamarok: all going smooth on the test machine | 17:40 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: what does apt-get install plasma-desktop give you? | 17:41 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: usually the Tutorials are general articles, but you can link to specific project pages from there | 17:48 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: sorry, was afk | 17:48 |
| Mamarok | plasma-desktop : Depends: plasma-widgets-workspace (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa4) but it is not going to be installed | 17:49 |
| Mamarok | E: Broken packages | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: ok | 17:49 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: which in turn depends on plasma-dataengines-workspace, which in turn depends on libkcalcore4 and libkcalutils4 where 4.4.5.95 is requested but 4.4.5.90 is installed | 17:52 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: apt-cache policy libkcalcore4 ? | 17:53 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/FdKSwk8d | 17:54 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: apt-get update; apt-cache policy libkcalcore4 ? | 17:54 |
| Mamarok | ah, now it changed to candidate 4.4.5.95 | 17:55 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: phew, how's the dist-upgrade now then? | 17:55 |
| Mamarok | works fine now, I just started it | 17:56 |
| Mamarok | seems it was a tad late to come in | 17:56 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: anything removed? | 17:56 |
| Mamarok | nope | 18:00 |
| Riddell | lovely | 18:01 |
| yofel | re | 18:05 |
| yofel | Riddell: I looked at 4.5.5 before, updates fine - except that stalcup forgot to upload kdeutils | 18:05 |
| * droidslayer clicks the "Install Now" Button of doom | 18:07 | |
| yofel | droidslayer: what was that about bzr btw.? | 18:08 |
| droidslayer | yofel: I currently have no OS | 18:08 |
| droidslayer | :-P | 18:08 |
| yofel | poor droidslayer ^^ | 18:09 |
| Riddell | yofel: and lots of the packages have the wrong version numbers | 18:10 |
| Riddell | yofel: kdeadmin is very wrong | 18:10 |
| droidslayer | yofel: natty got nasty.. stuff was not working.. needed to repartition... etc so nuked everything | 18:10 |
| yofel | Riddell: not much todo there - you uploaded 4.5.85 to updates once remember? | 18:10 |
| Riddell | yofel: I did? nothing in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages?start=75&batch=75 | 18:11 |
| Riddell | oh hi sheytan | 18:11 |
| Riddell | infact most of 4.5.4 seems to be missing from kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 18:12 |
| yofel | stalcup uploaded several 4.5.4 packages to ppa by mistake yesterday and removed them later.. | 18:12 |
| yofel | err. 4.5.5 | 18:12 |
| Riddell | ah, that'll be why | 18:12 |
| sheytan | Riddell hey :) | 18:12 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Is Nepomuk still crashing for you? | 18:13 |
| Riddell | sheytan: do you still have the html of the cdimage page? | 18:13 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yes | 18:13 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 18:13 |
| droidslayer | Why is this stuck on 0 % | 18:13 |
| sheytan | Riddell let me take a look | 18:13 |
| Quintasan | FU Nepomuk | 18:14 |
| ulysses | Quintasan: noooo, FU bcmwl | 18:15 |
| droidslayer | Hehehe | 18:15 |
| Riddell | yofel: hmm, messy, I'm not sure what to do | 18:15 |
| Quintasan | wth is bcmwl? | 18:15 |
| Quintasan | ulysses: ^ | 18:15 |
| ulysses | Broadcom wireless driver:\ | 18:15 |
| Quintasan | oh | 18:15 |
| _Groo_ | ulysses: works fine here (tm) | 18:15 |
| ulysses | latest upgrade is broken, it removed the old module but can't build the new one... | 18:16 |
| ScottK | ulysses: Works great for me too. | 18:16 |
| sheytan | Riddell yes, give me your email :) | 18:16 |
| Riddell | yofel: I'm tempted to upload everything to staging with 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu1ppa1 (except keep admin with it's messy number) | 18:16 |
| _Groo_ | but im not using 2.6.37 | 18:16 |
| Riddell | sheytan: jriddell@ubuntu.com | 18:16 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: New kdepim 4.6 beta. | 18:16 |
| yofel | Riddell: give me a sec, I'm searching my apt history for the old admin versions... | 18:16 |
| Riddell | will these upstream releases never end?! | 18:16 |
| yofel | Riddell: there, from apt history: ksystemlog:amd64 (4.5.4-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1, 4.5.85really4.5.4-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2) | 18:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Please 0ubuntu1~ppa1 so 0ubuntu1 can go to -updates | 18:17 |
| sheytan | Riddell out. let me know when it be alive | 18:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: too late for that | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: want me to throw in phonon and 4 backends? :P | 18:17 |
| ulysses | _Groo_: I use 2.6.37:( | 18:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Why? | 18:17 |
| * apachelogger could also release liblikeback | 18:17 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: some of it already got uploaded with 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu1 | 18:18 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | we just concluded that the new phonongst is rock stable | 18:18 |
| kronos | apachelogger: i did a git snapshot for liblikeback back then .. its in my ppa.. if it helps .. | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | not even rapid tack switching in amarok brings it down | 18:18 |
| ScottK | Hmm. | 18:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: like phonon vlc was/is rock stable? | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | and that brings almost all backends to their knees ^^ | 18:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: who are we? ;) | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | the phononos | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | uh | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | I like that | 18:19 |
| yofel | Riddell: found it now https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=admin&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=maverick | 18:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: but since 4.5.5 isn't going near natty we can just bump the number again if it goes into maverick-updates, so 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu1ppa1 in the PPAs and 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu2 in maverick-updates | 18:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: well amarok from yesterday git still deosnt know shit about gst analyzer ;) | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | that is not my fault | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | also | 18:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and vlc still thinks video is a luxury and that what you really need is a pretty equalizer | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. | 18:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah i know XD | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | amarok does so dirty shit to phonon I find it rather better that it does not use the eq | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | surely it would find a way to break it | 18:20 |
| Riddell | yofel: right you are, I did screw up :( | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: that is dragon really | 18:20 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: break it is the nature way of saying your code needs more testing and hammering | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | we know why though :P | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | also jim beam said he will look into it | 18:20 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: well it worked before last patch that changed equalizer behaviour | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:20 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and dont get me started with pulseaudio | 18:21 |
| * _Groo_ ducks | 18:21 | |
| apachelogger | the audiodataoutput impl block video or somesuch | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | sandsmark made it :P | 18:21 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: well its works fine, only phonon crashes on exit ;) | 18:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and im not gonna be eviscerated again in PA chat channel | 18:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: do you have the correct patches? i could apply them to 0.9.22 and see if that solves it | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | now where did I upload | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58394201/0509-x11-Partially-convert-to-XCB.patch and http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | I have a feeling that former should be in our package already considering the patch is from may | 18:24 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: am i gonna regret this? | 18:24 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: k, im gonna apply them against 0.9.22 stable | 18:26 |
| yofel | _Groo_: you had phonon backend daily builds right? | 18:26 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah, but my last git pull is from 26 dec... gst is from yesterday | 18:26 |
| sheytan | Riddell you were disscusing with ofirk the KDE server case for our new kubuntu web page, right? | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: the latter is for vlc | 18:27 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i did packages for phonon, gst,xine,mplayer,vlc | 18:27 |
| yofel | _Groo_: can you give me the ppa? I want to test gst | 18:27 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: its local | 18:27 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i didnt upload to my ppa yet | 18:27 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: apachelogger was telling me about this this week, that i need to spread the love | 18:28 |
| yofel | ah, ping me if you have something shareable :) | 18:28 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i have, but only tomorrow, ill make a new ppa branch and upload there | 18:28 |
| yofel | sure, thanks | 18:28 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: after we can start to see if i can get some recipes, so we have daily phono destruction derby | 18:28 |
| yofel | :D | 18:29 |
| Riddell | sheytan: yes, I had some ideas to automate the updates to the server so we don't have to ask sysadmins to do it | 18:29 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i didnt upload it yet cause i cant upload from work (proxy), and the LP gods dont want to add web upload :P | 18:29 |
| Riddell | sheytan: I want to ask the sysadmins at the meeting I'm going to next week | 18:29 |
| sheytan | Riddell, ok, nice :) | 18:29 |
| yofel | _Groo_: get yourself a server and upload over ssh :P (or does that stop at the proxy too? | 18:30 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: stop at the proxy | 18:30 |
| yofel | :S | 18:31 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i kinda "workaround" company policies... and kinda run my own proxy to burlate NTLM | 18:31 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: so i can do http/s but no ssh/ftp | 18:31 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: did my koffice packages where usefull? | 18:32 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: where my koffice packages useful? best enlighs | 18:32 |
| _Groo_ | english ahhhhhhhhhh | 18:32 |
| droidslayer | yofel: ssh is disabled at my uni as well... only http traffic :p | 18:32 |
| _Groo_ | die keyboard die | 18:32 |
| * droidslayer gives _Groo_ a shotgun | 18:33 | |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Isn't that what coffee is for (killing keyboards)? | 18:33 |
| _Groo_ | i could workaround even more, but ill prolly light the datacenter lights if i do even more "workarounds" | 18:33 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: mine doesnt drown anymore.. the little fella actually LIKES coffee | 18:33 |
| droidslayer | Hahaha :-P | 18:33 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Set up a remote system running sshd on port 80. | 18:33 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: yes it will be, doing 4.5.5 first, then koffice | 18:33 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: cant... firewall guys already eat my liver once for doing that | 18:34 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: k | 18:34 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: my original workaound was ssh as proxy via port 80 | 18:34 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: 2 days later i had a call from our firewall guys | 18:34 |
| ScottK | I suppose you'd get caught on 53 as well. | 18:35 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: they said they was seeing strange behaviour... i was "astonished" and promised to look at it (im from it security LOL ;)) | 18:35 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: its QOS monitored.. i cant do any protocols or it will warn them :P | 18:35 |
| droidslayer | _Groo_: your in our intrawebz eh :-P | 18:35 |
| ulysses | KDE people still live in 2010, they say in the announcement that KDE 4.5.5 released on 7th January, 2010 | 18:35 |
| droidslayer | Lol | 18:36 |
| _Groo_ | ulysses: prove them wrong ;) | 18:36 |
| _Groo_ | droidslayer: soemthing like that ;) | 18:36 |
| _Groo_ | so what i do now is that i run a small vm with smoothwall, and redirect my trafic locally to myself, and then pass it to NTLM.. | 18:37 |
| _Groo_ | NTLM is so shitty that is filter cant distinguish my trafic from normal one but cant filter it either, so i have acess to the entire internet... | 18:37 |
| _Groo_ | gonna restart X wioth new kde, brb | 18:41 |
| * Riddell holds breath | 18:43 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: we're in shit until we get new dh_python3 sync'd from Debian | 18:44 |
| yofel | Quintasan: how's the state on that? | 18:44 |
| Quintasan | Not sure | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | yofel: considering you do neon you should have access to phonon nightlies, no? | 18:47 |
| yofel | apachelogger: so far only phonon main, I forgot you took out the backends... | 18:48 |
| Quintasan | oh god | 18:48 |
| Quintasan | I forgot about it too | 18:48 |
| * yofel fights keyboard-configuration in the meanwhile | 18:49 | |
| yofel | why it thinks settings United States and Afghanistan as preferred layouts for my German keyboard is a mystery for me | 18:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ping | 18:49 |
| Riddell | hi Quintasan | 18:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Can you import http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python3-defaults.html ? | 18:49 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: all good or crash and burn? | 18:50 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: upgrade to rc2 worked fine | 18:50 |
| Riddell | awooga! | 18:50 |
| _Groo_ | didnt explode so far | 18:50 |
| _Groo_ | i didnt test kmail2 yet, but "normal" kde, plasma, etc is working fine | 18:50 |
| _Groo_ | akonadi is working aok too | 18:50 |
| _Groo_ | btw PLS PLS PLS FOR THE USERS SAKE, disable filewatched by default in the desktop file!! its not ready for end use, PLS PLS PLS | 18:51 |
| yofel | if you mean nepomukfilewatch then +1 | 18:51 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah thats the one, i always disable it | 18:51 |
| yofel | I can't enable nepomuk on my notebook thanks to that | 18:52 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: can you file a sync bug? the sync script needs it | 18:52 |
| yofel | takes almost all my HDD I/O for almost half an hour after login :S | 18:52 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: until trueg releases a funcional one with applet control and powerdevil integration it cant be used safely | 18:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: am I ok to sync that python3-defaults? | 18:52 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: same... but mine is hours, since i have a 500GB home | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: bug #699974 | 18:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 699974 in Ubuntu "Sync request for python3-defaults from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699974 | 18:52 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: he was suposed to only index folders from the nepomuk config, but it doesnt work that way | 18:52 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: the way its implements he WATCHES those folders but he looks for changes in the entire TREE!!!!! | 18:53 |
| _Groo_ | so if i have a folder like /home/groo/pdf to watch, hes going to index the entire /home/groo AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 18:53 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: unstable should read experimental there presumably? | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: just changed it | 18:54 |
| yofel | yeah, that's what I assumed too - not good if you have a kernel and kde trunk checkout in $HOME/src :S | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | lol | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | Well, Nepomuk still crashes here | 18:54 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i have all my packages in /home/groo/dev.. amarok, kde, etc etc... | 18:55 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: did you clean .kde/share/apps/nepomuk? it has problems with locks sometimes | 18:55 |
| yofel | well, I've got more too, but those are the ones that probably make up half of the file count ^^ | 18:55 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: if you run nepomukstorage by hand, what does it say? | 18:55 |
| yofel | ok, keyboard settings fixed \o/ | 18:56 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: python3-defaults current has an ubuntu version, you need to say why it's ok to get rid of whatever the delta is | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 18:56 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you could also just ask doko to confirm it's ok | 18:56 |
| _Groo_ | brb | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: it says nothing because such command doesnt exist | 18:58 |
| ximion | apachelogger: hi :) Anything left to do for debconf-kde? | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | stalcup should get me a building confirmation ^^ | 18:59 |
| * apachelogger is going to bed in a bit | 18:59 | |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 2011 same procedure as every year: 2 releases and many hugs | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | KDE PIM 4.6 beta 4 to be packaged | alpha 2 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | ||
| droidslayer | Riddell: upstream is just pounding us.... | 19:02 |
| Riddell | droidslayer: too right | 19:02 |
| Quintasan | droidslayer: I didn't give you my poking stick for nothing? | 19:03 |
| droidslayer | Lol | 19:04 |
| * droidslayer pokes KDE upstream in the eye | 19:04 | |
| Riddell | where's bulldog when kdepim is needing packaged? | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: From experimental, I believe it's OK. | 19:06 |
| Quintasan | droidslayer: poke bulldog so we get kdepimz | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | btw who developed qt graphics system KCM? | 19:07 |
| droidslayer | _Groo_: apachelogger | 19:07 |
| _Groo_ | was it apachelogger ? dont remember | 19:07 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: whats the latest version i have .2 installed | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 19:09 |
| * apachelogger should release gity | 19:09 | |
| apachelogger | has improved handling shit I think | 19:09 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: but from your blog, i got 0.2, is that the latest? or is there a new one? | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | dunno | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | check kde-apps | 19:10 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: since 4.7 already is using raster as default im happy, but i like to have yours in case i need to change it | 19:11 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: url? | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | gogole | 19:11 |
| markey | apachelogger: Skype! | 19:11 |
| markey | and web cam | 19:11 |
| markey | you know that you cannot resist. | 19:11 |
| markey | you can try, it will fail | 19:12 |
| markey | I can show you certain photos that will keep you awake | 19:12 |
| * apachelogger will be out in a bit | 19:12 | |
| markey | involving Riddell and Mark S. | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: 1.2 is latest | 19:13 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i think thats the one i have, aparently the shitty developer forgot to add a easy way to see what version is installed ;P | 19:13 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: would it kill you to add the version in the settings window? | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | or the shitty user does not know how to look for it | 19:14 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: enlighten the shitty user :D users are always to blame! | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot139.png | 19:15 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Don't sync python3-defaults yet. Waiting for doko (see #ubuntu-devel) | 19:15 |
| Riddell | ack | 19:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah i have 1.2.0 :) | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | 1.2 also has that | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | 1.1 also had it | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | 1.0 also had it | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i know :D | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its a kde default thingy :D | 19:17 |
| * _Groo_ is a shitty user also | 19:17 | |
| ximion | apachelogger: Ok, I'll wait then :P | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: but i never miss an oportunity to piss you off ehehehe | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | so who do i have to kill for kubuntu 11.04 disable filewatcher by default? | 19:19 |
| ScottK | You could probably get a few people to volunteer to change that if you got apachelogger. | 19:21 |
| ScottK | ;0 | 19:21 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Can haz powerpc? | 19:26 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: to disable it its just a change in a desktop file | 19:36 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: you mean reasons to disable it? | 19:37 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: You were offering to kill someone to get it disabled and based on apachelogger's recent phonon work I suspect he'd be popular. | 19:37 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i wont kill apachelogger , hes one of my source of amusement | 19:38 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:38 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i could kill yofel but he voted for disabling filewatch too | 19:38 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: maybe jontheechidna? | 19:39 |
| yofel | nope, I'll miss muon | 19:39 |
| ScottK | No. Everyone likes him. That'll get you nowhere. | 19:39 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: its not being popular but usefull | 19:39 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i could kill myself but it kinda defeats the purpose | 19:40 |
| ScottK | You've got to decide on your priorities. | 19:40 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: can i kill someone from other teams? PA developer would be a very popular pick | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Sure. We wouldn't have to worry about SystemD anymore either. | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | anyone taking up KDEPIM 4.6? | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | if not ... i can ... but ill need a server because of ISP issues :S | 19:41 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: isnt kdepim 4.6 in experimental already? | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: yes .. but thats a old beta | 19:43 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: ah, then go for it :D im ansious to test/screw my data with latest version :) | 19:43 |
| _Groo_ | anxious | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:44 |
| yofel | the only one that ever did pim was bulldog iirc, and he's MIA | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i did the first beta iirc | 19:44 |
| droidslayer | My new night lamp http://www.imgur.com/1tYdT.jpg | 19:46 |
| _Groo_ | i could do it on my system but im not gonna do it on a friday night, i have allods to play! XD | 19:46 |
| _Groo_ | droidslayer: lol cool | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: :P | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: i just plugged my pendrive into my phone charger ^_^ | 19:47 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: so you are downloading the internet to your usb drive ? XD | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 19:48 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: old joke | 19:48 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: wheres the source for latest kdepim beta? i might build it on my machine | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: sekret ktown server | 19:52 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: url pls? | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | its sekret .... operates over sftp :> | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | so if you intend to package it ... poke Riddell | 19:53 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: i have access to ninja | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | no .. not that .... its on KTown | 19:54 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: well since i dont know whats that, i shouldnt be able to get it anyway XD | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: you could just download them from git | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | or svn | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | or whatever they use | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/kdepim | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | on that note... i cannot access ktown because my ssh keys are on my external HD .. which is not being mounted :/ | 19:56 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: k let me check | 19:57 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: the latest i can see in the mirror (that uses http) is 4.5.93, the one we have in experimental. http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/unstable/kdepim/4.5.93/ | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | 4.5.94 looks latest there to me | 19:59 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: k found it in http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/kde/unstable/kdepim/4.5.94/src/ | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 19:59 |
| _Groo_ | can you confirm that .94 is the latest? | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | looks like it to me | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: k | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: downloading | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: http://imagebin.ca/view/q_ZDolzr.html | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | stupid question, with apt-get source can i download only the diff/debian and not the source? | 20:01 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: No. | 20:03 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: k | 20:03 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: You could wget it via an lp url. | 20:04 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: shadeslayer k im starting to change stuff around for .94 | 20:04 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: yeah thats the non lazy approach | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | i do hate my system fonts right now | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | brb after reboot | 20:06 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: pull-lp-source could probably be adapted to do what you asked. | 20:08 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: does it work over http? | 20:08 |
| sheytan | Hey guys | 20:20 |
| sheytan | i'm trying to boot kubuntu from usb, but it shows me that damn crc32c.ko no such device error | 20:21 |
| sheytan | what the hell is this thing? :D | 20:21 |
| * droidslayer notes something went horribly wrong with his external hard disk | 20:40 | |
| yofel | as long as mount doesn't give errors about bad superblocks on a XFS disk you should be fine | 20:41 |
| droidslayer | Well... Windows says it wants to format it and kubuntu can't see the partition | 20:43 |
| droidslayer | So downloading test disk | 20:43 |
| droidslayer | My GTG | 20:44 |
| droidslayer | My GPG keys were in there | 20:44 |
| droidslayer | Argh.... | 20:44 |
| yofel | droidslayer: what does fdisk say? | 20:45 |
| droidslayer | yofel: just shows /dev/sdc1 :-).. | 20:46 |
| droidslayer | Which is the wd software partition | 20:46 |
| yofel | :/ | 20:47 |
| droidslayer | Its quite possible that usb creator tried to install the ISO onto my external hd | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | so testdisk on a 1TB partition is going to take alot of time :P | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/1986/ | 20:55 |
| shadeslayer | ( i just hope to get my keys back, the rest of the stuff doesnt matter to me :/) | 20:56 |
| Trouble` | Has anyone tried to work out unmet package dependancies after a couple of glasses of wine? ;-D | 21:06 |
| Trouble` | My advice is don't try it! | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | ooooh | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i haz backup of gpg keys on my phone \o/ | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | might lose the ssh keys tho :( | 21:15 |
| yofel | heh :D | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeah .... apparently i was trying out a GPG Android app a few weeks back and copied them over | 21:15 |
| yofel | hm, reporting a broken blur effect should go against kwin right? | 21:16 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: against the driver | 21:16 |
| maco | ScottK: ping? im in ellicott city | 21:17 |
| yofel | hm, I wonder if it's natty X if both nvidia and intel don't work anymore | 21:17 |
| yofel | does anyone here with natty have working blur? | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i did ... using nvidia | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | but now no more natty :P | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: try the xorg edgers ppa perhaps? | 21:20 |
| JontheEchidna | blur works here with intel, so it could be card-specific: http://i.imgur.com/SbZn3.png | 21:20 |
| sheytan | Kubuntu sucks! | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | !!!! | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: 0_o | 21:21 |
| sheytan | ]:-> | 21:22 |
| sheytan | i'm evil :D | 21:22 |
| sheytan | meheheheeh :D | 21:22 |
| sheytan | just kidding :D | 21:22 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer ^ :D | 21:22 |
| yofel | hm wait.... | 21:22 |
| yofel | kmenu and panel blur the background fine | 21:23 |
| yofel | it's only the window borders that don't blur the background if they're set to semi-translucent | 21:23 |
| yofel | http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/borders.png | 21:26 |
| markey | apachelogger: if you get a FB friendship request from "Jenny Gerdes", please accept | 21:27 |
| markey | this is purely for sexual reasons | 21:27 |
| markey | nothing important | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: I'd say it's probably the window decoration not telling kwin to blur behind it | 21:30 |
| yofel | mgrasslin went missing ./ | 21:32 |
| yofel | :/ | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | which decoration is that, anyway? | 21:33 |
| yofel | default, so oxygen+kwin | 21:34 |
| yofel | I only enabled the kwin translucency plugin for window decorations | 21:35 |
| sheytan | yofel blur works with "oxygen transparent" which should be a part of 4.6 :) | 21:35 |
| yofel | sheytan: where's that supposed to be? workspace appearance -> window decorations? | 21:41 |
| ScottK | maco: Pong. Was in the car when you called. | 21:41 |
| sheytan | yofel ->apps appearance->style? | 21:41 |
| ScottK | now back to work. | 21:41 |
| sheytan | or oxygen-settings | 21:41 |
| maco | ScottK: well the phone covered it :) | 21:42 |
| maco | im gonna go get sushi with katie from linuxchix as she also lives around here | 21:42 |
| ScottK | Enjoy | 21:43 |
| Riddell | Heavy Snow and 1 degrees max temperature in Dallas! | 21:49 |
| maco | Riddell: its 0 here | 21:49 |
| Riddell | what's the point of going to Texas if it's not sunny and warm! | 21:50 |
| maco | it wasnt sunny and warm when we went there for uds either | 21:50 |
| highvoltage | 0 is warm compared to quebec! | 21:50 |
| maco | afaict, texas is a lie | 21:50 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| Riddell | Quintasan: does that mean you can package the new sip now? | 21:59 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Probably, POX said there are still few issues with the packaging, I will attempt to fix them now | 21:59 |
| stikonas | Hello, after I've installed KDE 4.6 RC2 on maverick ssh-add stopped working. It seems that SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK shell variables are not created | 22:03 |
| stikonas | any ideas how to fix this? | 22:03 |
| Quintasan | stikonas: this is a known issue, I know only a workaround for now if it satisfies you | 22:04 |
| stikonas | workaround would be useful, since I do not want to enter passphrase every time I run svn up on KDE svn repository | 22:05 |
| Quintasan | stikonas: ssh-agent | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | stikonas: it spews out someting like SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-NHyzS2sada8/agent.29308; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | stikonas: just copy and paste the whole output to terminal | 22:06 |
| stikonas | thanks | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | then ssh-agent should work on the same terminal | 22:06 |
| stikonas | yes, this is better then nothing | 22:07 |
| nixternal | ScottK: still need ppc? | 22:09 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Yes. Please. | 22:10 |
| nixternal | firing it up now | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Great. | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Gonna see if libreoffice builds on power. | 22:10 |
| nixternal | ok, who pulled the power on my ppc box? some lil sneaker, i am guessing one of my dogs, has hijacked the power cable. little turd | 22:12 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 22:12 |
| nixternal | don't know what it is, but they love pulling the cable on that box. probably because it is the only one not up in the air | 22:13 |
| nixternal | i found a white power cord. that has to be from a mac | 22:14 |
| nixternal | ok, firing it up for real this time | 22:15 |
| nixternal | ScottK: it is up and running, waiting for you to abuse it! | 22:16 |
| ScottK | Cool. Now I just need to remember where I wrote down how to access it. | 22:16 |
| nixternal | ScottK: that is what ~/.ssh/config is for :p | 22:17 |
| ScottK | So I'm discovering. Thanks. | 22:17 |
| stalcup | yofel: would you mind doing utils? | 22:20 |
| * stalcup has an 18 hour day today | 22:20 | |
| Riddell | 4.5.5 is looking good other than utils | 22:21 |
| stalcup | great! | 22:21 |
| stalcup | If anyone could do utils I would be greatly motivated to do lucid too | 22:21 |
| yofel | can do, but need to fix something else here first | 22:29 |
| geneiros | Hi everyone... | 22:32 |
| geneiros | can anyone help me....i installed today kubuntu 10.10 and try to update using ppa:kubuntu-ppa and it gives me a huge amount of dependencies error... | 22:34 |
| Riddell | geneiros: that needs 4.5.5 copied over | 22:36 |
| Riddell | which is waiting on kdeutils | 22:36 |
| Riddell | but maybe I should just do it | 22:36 |
| yofel | better copy it, I'm having grub issues here which need more immediate attention | 22:37 |
| Riddell | copying it over, should be fixed soon geneiros | 22:37 |
| geneiros | ok... | 22:38 |
| geneiros | in some computers it updated well... | 22:38 |
| geneiros | because i update to 4.5.4 before | 22:38 |
| geneiros | ill wait... | 22:38 |
| Riddell | geneiros: how about now? | 23:02 |
| geneiros | i'll try... | 23:03 |
| Zorael | I'm getting dbus errors and failed session startup after the latest batch of maverick updates (includes 4.4.95 packages). Known issue? | 23:04 |
| geneiros | no...it is the same | 23:04 |
| Zorael | kdm.log says "klauncher(pid) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server.", "kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!", and I get thrown to the greeter. | 23:05 |
| Riddell | geneiros: can you pastebin the output? | 23:05 |
| geneiros | yes of course | 23:05 |
| Riddell | Zorael: I've not seen that | 23:05 |
| Zorael | Hmm. | 23:05 |
| * Riddell throws kdeutils 4.5.5 into kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 23:06 | |
| geneiros | Riddell: paste all the output to here? | 23:09 |
| geneiros | it is a lot... | 23:10 |
| Riddell | geneiros: paste.kde.org | 23:12 |
| geneiros | hum? | 23:12 |
| Riddell | paste it at paste.kde.org | 23:12 |
| Riddell | sorry I need to go | 23:14 |
| Riddell | but pastebin the output and hopefully someone else will look at it | 23:14 |
| yofel | I'll try to update to ppa in a chroot | 23:14 |
| geneiros | done | 23:14 |
| Riddell | thanks yofel | 23:14 |
| Riddell | if it's all good kick someone to announce on the website | 23:15 |
| Riddell | I'm going to snowey Texas | 23:15 |
| yofel | have a nice trip ^^ | 23:15 |
| geneiros | nice trip | 23:15 |
| geneiros | the output is at here: | 23:16 |
| geneiros | http://paste.kde.org/1993/ | 23:16 |
| geneiros | can someone see this | 23:19 |
| yofel | I see it, and just confirmed it | 23:19 |
| Bodia | apt-get ? | 23:19 |
| geneiros | no aptitude | 23:20 |
| geneiros | with apt-get it doesnt show the dependencies errors just that it wont update the packages... | 23:21 |
| yofel | odd, kdelibs seems to be missing... | 23:21 |
| geneiros | :( | 23:21 |
| geneiros | i dont understand but it seems that the repository only have the 4.5.5 packages | 23:22 |
| yofel | kdelibs *is* missing | 23:22 |
| geneiros | all the libs? | 23:23 |
| geneiros | oh i see... | 23:23 |
| yofel | the whole source package, let me try to copy it | 23:23 |
| geneiros | ok | 23:23 |
| yofel | *headdesk* | 23:24 |
| yofel | The following source cannot be copied: | 23:24 |
| yofel | kde4libs 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 in maverick (binaries conflicting with the existing ones) | 23:24 |
| yofel | ookaaay, let's upload as 1.1ppa1 | 23:24 |
| yofel | let's hope this works.. | 23:28 |
| Zorael | Note to self: adding scripts to ~/.kde/env/ that exit with errors will in turn make startkde (that sources those scripts) also exit with errors. | 23:33 |
| yofel | fooey [PPA kubuntu-ppa] [ubuntu/maverick] kde4libs 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu1.1ppa1(Accepted) | 23:34 |
| yofel | geneiros: with some luck this should work in about an hour | 23:34 |
| geneiros | ok...thanks.... | 23:34 |
| geneiros | i'll wait... | 23:35 |
| yofel | that's about how long it takes for kdelibs to be built and published | 23:35 |
| geneiros | this problem started today... | 23:38 |
| geneiros | didnt anyone noticed this? | 23:39 |
| geneiros | with computers with 4.5.4 the update was ok... | 23:39 |
| yofel | geneiros: it was known - and actually started yesterday evening, we just couldn't fix it faster | 23:39 |
| geneiros | thanks... | 23:40 |
| yofel | sorry for the inconvenience | 23:41 |
| geneiros | dont apologise... | 23:41 |
| geneiros | :) | 23:41 |
| geneiros | hum...i think it is wrong writen... | 23:42 |
| geneiros | i'm from portugal :) | 23:42 |
| yofel | it's apologize ;) | 23:43 |
| geneiros | i have another strange thing | 23:43 |
| geneiros | i installed samba and kdenetwork-filesharing... | 23:44 |
| geneiros | and when i open samba from system settings it displays everything disabled... | 23:44 |
| geneiros | i have to open systemsettings with sudo systemsettings to manage samba | 23:44 |
| stalcup | Thanks yofel | 23:58 |
| yofel | thank Riddell, he did utils | 23:59 |
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