[00:08] Riddell: /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kresources_shared_akonadi.mo [00:09] Riddell: libkdepim4 4:4.5.93-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 [00:16] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch sort of changelog: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/changelog [01:04] I ma wtaching a *.install file as reference [01:04] it only has the target files to be installed [01:04] Riddell: did you fall asleep? [01:04] gnomelogger: I'm busy packaging! [01:04] I also don't care much about computer games [01:04] Riddell: you should for that one :D [01:05] I ma curious how Debian/Ubuntu knows the origin file to copy [01:05] EagleScreen: make install is run [01:05] that installs the files into debian/tmp [01:06] well actually dh_install I believe [01:06] and the .install file tell debhelper which .deb to put it into [01:06] by coping the file from debian/tmp to debian// which gets made into the .deb [01:07] the current make install installs all in /usr/local/share........, will dh_install install them in /usr/share instead? [01:07] cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr [01:07] that's how it's configured [01:08] well [01:08] then after `make` the packaging runs `DESTDIR=debian/tmp make install` and the files get installed into debian/tmp/usr/... [01:08] to know which files must I include in the .deb, I ma using the 'make install' output, am I doing it well? [01:09] then dh_install copies to debian//usr/... which gets made into the .deb [01:09] * to know which files to write in the .install [01:09] EagleScreen: does the package make more than one .deb file? [01:10] I want it to do it (binary and debugging symbols) I am working in packaging KDE4 verison of Kdbg [01:11] dh_install --list-missing [01:11] that might help [01:11] should give you a list of files that need to be added to .install files [01:12] I got this: [01:12] $ dh_install --list-missing [01:12] dh_install: kdbg missing files (), aborting [01:13] well that'll only work if the source package has been built [01:13] if you want to install all files you should be able to just put "usr/" into the .install file [01:13] that'll copy the whole directory [01:14] and is it good? I don't see any reason to not copy some files [01:14] yes, I expect it's what you want [01:15] ok, thanks [01:15] if you only make one .deb package then you don't need a .install file at all, it'll just put all the files into the package. but you have a dbg package that might not be the case [01:16] I understand [01:21] do you recommend some argument to run lintian with? [01:22] I just run it as "lintian" [01:23] * gnomelogger also meant to por the list missing foo -.- [01:23] meh [01:23] so much todo [01:23] :( [01:26] I can't create a natty enviroment with pbuilder, I get this: http://pastebin.ca/2039969 [01:26] (I am running Debian testing right now) [01:28] EagleScreen: make sure you have '--keyring' '/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg' in your DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS for ubuntu pbuilders [01:29] EagleScreen: here's how I do it for debian, like 69f http://paste.ubuntu.com/551331/ [01:29] *line 69f [01:29] can it go in .pbuilderrc? [01:30] Isee [01:30] (that's my pbuilderrc btw.) [01:30] * yofel is off to bed, good night [01:31] that sould not be needed unless you override the default rc [01:31] 4.5.95 uploaded to natty [01:31] will do maverick tomorrow morning [01:31] sweet [01:38] I have this: http://pastebin.ca/2039980 and the error is still here [01:40] yofel: any idea? [02:52] yofel: the right option is "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg" look at the '=' [05:09] Riddell: ScottK https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages [05:28] stalcup: We need someone to test them then. [05:34] Riddell: I don't see an upload for kde4libs (4.5.95 on natty). I'm not going to do it though in case you didn't upload it on purpose (do check bzr though as I found one small thing after I uploaded to the PPA). [07:11] it there no way to tell muon to just update everything which needs updating? [07:11] I am not gonna do them one by one [07:29] eh, I'll just do it with apt-get [07:29] easier === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:49] I have an error during the upgrade from KDE 4.6 RC1 to RC2 in Natty [09:50] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers_4%3a4.5.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): [09:50] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/metadata.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu1 [09:54] Riddell: wheee [09:54] Riddell: i found web browsing to be faster in general [10:06] afiestas: it would be nice to get a option to turn off bluetooth in bluedevil [10:35] hi [10:36] bug 699773 [10:36] Launchpad bug 699773 in kdeartwork (Ubuntu) " trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/metadata.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu1 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699773 [10:36] hm, I can confirm it [10:37] added report from dpkg --force-overwrite -i [10:37] ulysses: huh? [10:37] I fixed that yesterday... [10:37] I updated today [10:38] an aóhour ago [10:38] I just updated my system [10:38] hour… [10:38] Riddell: you did not merge my kdeartwork branch before uploading... [10:40] heh... I love how plymouth disbehaves on my computers ;D [10:41] yofel: oh foo sorry [11:04] shadeslayer: master has it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:48] afiestas: kewl thanks :D [12:09] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/kepek/oxygentransparent.png [12:13] pretty [12:27] Ooooh yea, that is looking good! [12:33] kdm : Depends: libkworkspace4 (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa2) but 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 is to be installed [12:35] Trouble: amd64 or i386? [12:35] amd64 [12:35] Also... kdm : Depends: kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins (= 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa2) but 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 is to be installed [12:36] where is apachelogger? [12:36] I need to kill him a bit [12:36] just a bit [12:37] he posted a pic on Facebook [12:37] from me [12:37] good thing that is says "Mark Shuttleworth" [12:37] I'm totally resembling him [12:38] Trouble: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages says kdm has 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa3 [12:38] How do you kill him a bit? Like you stab him with knife but just a bit? [12:38] axe murdering, I think [12:39] ah, he is hiding as gnomelogger [12:39] markey: That is killing him properly, not a bit [12:39] gnome?:o traitor! [12:39] skfin: also fine [12:39] Okay [12:41] Riddell: Hmmmm yes I see! Let me see if I can work out what is going wrong [12:41] I wonder if it's to do with this error from apt-get update that has suddenly appeared: "W: Bizarre Error - File size is not what the server reported 87850 78089" [12:46] Riddell: It's okay now! Sorry to have bothered you :) [12:47] * Trouble kicks LaunchPad [12:47] I see that error too rather frequently with the ninjas PPA, wonder what's wrong with apt.. [12:47] or launchpad, right.. [12:47] * Trouble kicks apt-get for good measure [12:48] hi guys, I wonder if someone knows how to use KServices with PyKDE4 ? I'd like to make a plugin-based app [12:49] * jussi kicks Trouble... [12:49] * Trouble gives jussi some trouble [12:50] * jussi kicks Trouble... OUT! [12:50] lol [12:50] /kickban! [12:51] Trouble: are you asking for trouble? [12:51] * yofel had a knockout script for xchat once to do that for a limited time ^^ [12:51] * Trouble cracks up [12:51] daitheflu: Im sorry to be so inattentive to your question, I just dont know the answer [12:51] My first name is Justin...# [12:51] Justin Trouble :D [12:51] now that is a complete dad joke :P [12:51] Just-in Trouble (for the slow people) [12:51] you indeed have a troublesome name ^^ [12:52] jussi: no worries :) [12:52] My real surname isn't actually Trouble btw ;-) [12:52] Trouble: you know what we do with troublemakers here... :D [12:52] * jussi gets out the banhammer :P [12:56] Riddell: K3B is borked in Maverick with RC1 updates [12:56] markey: what happened? [12:56] Riddell: says: "Unable to fixate disk. cdrecord has no permission to open the device." [12:56] a HAL issue? [12:57] lol banhammer :D [12:57] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/9RegQyTA [12:57] debug output from K3B [12:58] * jussi drags Trouble to #kubuntu-offtopic - shh, theres workers in here!!! :D [13:00] I would never have guessed there was somewhere for offtopic Kubuntu chat from the way apachelogger goes on and on in here ;-p [13:03] * jussi waves in the sabdfl's direction [13:04] * yofel does an update test for 4.5.5 in the meanwhile [13:05] markey: yeah, try installing hal [13:05] we need to talk to upstream about that [13:06] daitheflu: I'm afraid pykde guru sime isn't around currently (he's had a baby), probably best to e-mail the kdebindings list or the pyqt list [13:06] stalcup: kdeutils 4.5.5 is missing [13:07] Riddell: thanks for the advice, I'll try the mailing-lists [13:09] Riddell: how to install HAL? [13:10] maybe I should run K3B with sudo? [13:10] sudo apt-get install hal if it's missing [13:11] * yofel wonders if ppa.launchpad.net will ever have mirrors... === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:13] hey Quintasan [13:13] yofel: \o [13:13] What's with sip? [13:14] yofel: thx [13:16] yofel: POX mailed me that there are stil some problems with sip, I will probably get everthing sorted out today [13:17] ok, I'm on an off today and will be gone for a while later, just ping me when sip works [13:17] Okay, [13:17] grr, keyboard-configuration in natty is annoying [13:18] Can't we remove this stuff? [13:18] I can't even figure out what it does === gnomelogger is now known as markeylogger [13:21] my head files like someone played football with it [13:21] :S [13:22] markeylogger: Ain't that because you got drunk? [13:26] markeylogger: any plans to update phonon-backend-gst in natty? I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/551474/ [13:27] vlc backend works fine at least === markeylogger is now known as apachelogger [13:27] yofel: make a snapshot :P [13:28] hm, _Groo_ had daily builds I think, maybe I'll test that later [13:28] phonon 4.4.4 comes out the day KDE 4.6 final is getting tagged [13:28] (someting 19 or so) [13:28] ah, cool [13:29] KDE 4.6 will be tagged at 19th january [13:32] blame apachelogger for every breakage as we usually do and we will be fine ;) [13:34] talkign about that [13:34] it would be very cool if project neon could become usable at some point [13:34] every day that it is not published and advertised and used is a wasted one [13:41] apachelogger: sure thing, wanna fix0r bug 109114 while waiting? [13:41] Launchpad bug 109114 in Bazaar "[master] bzr holds whole files in memory; raises MemoryError on large files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109114 [13:42] so bzr is blocking again? [13:42] sure, it's blocking kdelibs, kdebase, kdepim and something else [13:42] see, here is the thing, if you guys had a blog you could start some public ranting, pissing the bzr devs off and thus getting this fixed [13:42] apachelogger: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus [13:43] ah, and qt [13:43] * yofel gets something to eat, bbl [13:44] * apachelogger needs to work on the ubuntu contact book stuff [13:44] oi vey [13:45] also a UDS essentials lists in order, so no one shall forget their bathingsuite no more [13:48] Mamarok: can you please stop markey from always wanting skype sessions :P [13:48] yofel: how do fix this kdm bug? [13:49] shadeslayer: !!! [13:49] apachelogger: piiiing [13:49] apachelogger: did u update to rc2? [13:49] * apachelogger shows Quintasan|Droid a nakkid picture of kubotu and hopes to scare him away [13:49] Quintasan|Droid: no, jr did [13:50] did he break something? [13:50] Hurrr [13:50] oh [13:50] * apachelogger cant read quite well today [13:50] Dunno, kdm mumbles something about ethias dir no being available [13:50] Quintasan|Droid: only on what is yet available on 10.10 [13:50] yeah, that hought to be fixed in natty and a fix for 10.10 coming today jr said [13:50] Quintasan|Droid: just edit your kdmrc [13:50] I has natty lol [13:51] then possibly his fix was insufficient *shrug* [13:52] Quintasan|Droid: switch to horus theme or instal kdebase-workspace-wallpapers and kdewallpapers [13:52] ethais was cut into pieces [13:53] * apachelogger looks at his inbox, sees a couple of bug report labels lighting up and decides to not read mails today [13:53] lol [13:53] Wtf [13:53] yofel: where do I change this? [13:53] I need path since my terminal is somehow split [13:54] there is stuff like "Applications with phonon-vlc crashes at startup" [13:54] Like the prompt starts on the right side of the screen and ends at the left [13:54] of which I am sure is either fixed or only affecting opensuse [13:55] Quintasan|Droid: set 'Theme' in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc, now I need to find out what the path was... [13:55] grr, both my upgraded pcs are off :S [13:56] same as ethias [13:56] just with horos [13:56] Quintasan|Droid: just look yourself what the new theme is called in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ [13:56] /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/horos I believe [13:56] yeah, can't remember the exact name [13:57] Mamarok: btw, according to golem phonon is an audio backend, whereas xine is a video backend [13:57] yep, horos [13:57] I love them very much [13:57] ^^ [13:58] I only read their crap every once in a while, and yet they manage to always have news to piss me off big time [13:59] hurp durp [13:59] yofel: thanks [14:00] np [14:07] roar, kdebase-workspace artwork is going to kill me [14:08] Riddell: kdebase is currently depwait on an updated kde-sv-dev-latest, but it's not been updated. Should we update kde-sc-dev-latest or bump down the build-dep version in kdebase? [14:09] yes meta-kde should get uploaded [14:09] I'm just stressing at kdebase-workspace just now [14:11] OK. I can take care of that. [14:11] thanks [14:19] <84XABIUT3> hello all.. does someone know when this workaround will be used? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/604122 i need to put some files on my sd-card.. [14:19] <84XABIUT3> :s [14:19] Ubuntu bug 604122 in linux (Ubuntu) "mmc0: Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress." [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:21] <84XABIUT3> or where is a workaround-kernel which is easy to install? [14:21] Done. [14:21] 84XABIUT3: Help is in #ubuntu or #kubuntu. [14:22] <84XABIUT3> ok, thanks [14:24] <84XABIUT3> ScottK: do you know the solution? i asked, but since now, no one answered.. and i'm a bit in a hurry :s [14:25] 84XABIUT3: No. I haven't had that problem. [14:25] <84XABIUT3> ok.. [14:27] 84XABIUT3: You'd better ask in #ubuntu-kernel [14:27] 84XABIUT3: and you need to be veeeeery patient to get answer there [14:27] <84XABIUT3> damn : [14:27] <84XABIUT3> :s [14:28] <84XABIUT3> why isn't it workarounded by CONFIG_MMC_RICOH_MMC=n ?!? [14:29] we do not know, as Quintasan indicated #ubuntu-kernel is where kernel matters are discussed [14:30] 84XABIUT3: We're just making Kubuntu,not kernel [14:31] [muon] jmthomas * 1212588 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/CMakeLists.txt Somehow the adding of the icons directory to CMakeLists.txt got undone... [14:34] JontheEchidna: Did you get my ping a couple of days ago RE checking symbol changes in kde4libs/pimlibs for 4.5.95? Do you think you'll be able to look at it? [14:35] http://pastebin.com/yw84BitX is kde4libs in case you missed it. [14:36] ScottK: nope, I hadn't gotten that ping. I can take a look at it [14:36] JontheEchidna: Thanks. I can't seem to find my pimlibs diff, but it's in the archive now, so you can look at the build logs there. [14:37] JontheEchidna: Please wait until after kde4libs finishes on armel and powerpc to upload an update if you come up with one. [14:54] Desktop effects are really smooth now! [15:32] Riddell: Reading https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2011-January/001379.html I'm left wondering if we shouldn't set reboot required for full KDE SC version updates? [15:33] re [15:36] Riddell: [15:36] "hal is already the newest version." [15:36] it was installed... [15:38] markey: I think the thing that was causing k3b to fail even when hal was installed is fixed in rc2 [15:38] If not, I suspect afiestas is the person to talk to. [15:39] I'm not :p [15:40] ScottK: we should [15:40] also I have a bug about that somewhere [15:41] ScottK: ah, cool [15:41] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/379820 [15:41] Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/379820) [15:41] nice that it timed out [15:41] love it [15:42] ScottK: is RC2 in backports now? [15:42] No idea. I've just been following Natty. [15:42] It's uploaded there, but still building. [15:42] ScottK: hmm, I'm not sure what the problem is for that ubuntu-qa person, the upgrade should be ABI compatible [15:43] having a "log out" notifier wouldn't be a bad idea though [15:43] Riddell: desktop file foobar [15:43] what's changed in the desktop file? [15:44] I dunno [15:44] at any rate a log out would solve the problem [15:44] could also be that an interface in kded changed and kate used the old one or somesuch [15:44] yay, the maverick upgrade to 4.5.95 worked! [15:44] apachelogger: All of which shouldn't happen in a point release. [15:44] without backtrace it is hard to tell what exactly went wrong [15:46] I've got one lucid machine here still on 4.4.2. I'll see if I can replicate it on upgrade over the weekend. [15:46] ScottK: well, kate shouldnt crash either ;) [15:46] * apachelogger pours himself a glass of baileys [15:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/676663 still needs lucid verification [15:47] apachelogger: well, that will be hard, just decline :) [15:47] Ubuntu bug 676663 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu Lucid) "Kopete ICQ plugin broken due to login server change" [Medium,Fix committed] [15:47] apachelogger: about Golem: WTF? [15:48] Mamarok: that is so difficult with his puppy eyes and snoring ;) [15:50] FWIW: there is a really annoying scrolling bug in 4.6 beta on Maverick (using fglrx). Only the top and bottom couple of lines seem to scroll in konsole and akregator [15:52] Look slike a git snapshot of k3b might be worth trying. [15:52] yuriy_work: We're on RC2 now. Still a problem? [15:53] apachelogger: Actually it doesn't. Just mark it fixed released. In lucid it got rolled in with the 4.4.5 update. [15:53] oh [15:53] ok [15:53] Be sure to remove the verification-needed tag too [15:54] blamo! for asdf in kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebindings kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kde4libs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepimlibs kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev oxygen-icons; do echo ${asdf}; copy-package.py -s maverick -p kubuntu-ninjas -b --to-suite=maverick --to-ppa=kubuntu-ppa --to-ppa-name=beta ${asdf} -y; done [15:54] oh hmm, probably didn't want kdebindings in there [15:54] ScottK: it is already at verification-done anyway [15:54] OK [15:54] Riddell: intersting variable name :P [15:55] He favors that one [15:55] Probably somehow tied to his use of emacs. [15:55] not for long, as we will remove the emacs along with the pyth0nr [15:56] muhahaha [15:56] contrary to rumour emacs key bindings aren't four random keys :) [15:56] unless emacs gets rewritten in java [15:56] * Riddell rewrites apachelogger in lisp [15:56] Riddell: only semi-random? :P [15:56] uhhh [15:56] common lisp plz [15:56] http://shawn.hamman.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lisp-programmers.jpg [15:57] * apachelogger likes erlang :D [15:58] ScottK: haven't updated yet. i figured the status in here meant it wasn't ready [15:59] so [15:59] since I am not very motivated to do anything ... anything anyone wants me to work on? [15:59] * apachelogger could probably do the vlc SRU to fix phonon-vlc crashes [16:00] Mamarok: http://www.golem.de/1101/80445.html [16:00] actually i'm running RC1, and don't see RC2 in beta repo yet. and this is happening in konqueror as well, just not as consistently [16:00] "Wenn die entsprechende Magnet-URI im Webbrowser Konqueror aufgerufen wird, wird der Videostrom per Ktorrent-Dbus an das Audiobackend Phonon und das Videobackend Xine übertragen. " [16:02] apachelogger: Would you be willing to chat with k3b upstream and see if they plan a bugfix release soon? Looking at their git log it seems they've accumulated a fair number of bug fixes, including one or two changes that may relate to the hal transition. [16:02] could you sort out my mortgage too please? [16:03] oh and pack my bags for dallas, that would be handy [16:03] Riddell: Are you planning on covering the release meeting or would you rather I did it so you can keep wrestling with packages? [16:03] apachelogger: oi! i have no sound [16:03] I rather chat with upstream :P [16:03] ScottK: oh aye, thanks for reminding me. I can do it [16:03] ScottK: OTOH k3b upstream is release lazy [16:03] one always has to force him into releaseing stuff :P [16:03] yuriy_work: are you on maverick? [16:04] shadeslayer: that is very forutnate [16:04] apachelogger: There's a task for you then. [16:04] shadeslayer: means more work gets done [16:04] shadeslayer: also, please get your bloggy blog aggregated on all the planets on planet earth and rant about bzr blocking neon and stuff [16:04] apachelogger: my interwebz is all sorts of fail .... i finally got it working after a days work [16:04] apachelogger: they fixed a mem bug [16:04] yofel: ^^ [16:05] from what i can remember [16:05] apachelogger: that jt guy at Golem is really an idiot. He basically translated from whilo's blog: http://whilos.blogsite.org/?p=157 and what he didn't understand he just made up, how stupid is that! [16:05] and it is always him, they should fire that idiot [16:05] that is golem right there [16:05] maybe I should write a letter to the BBC [16:05] Riddell: yes [16:06] yuriy_work: RC 2 is about to appear in the beta PPA, are you able to test? [16:06] Riddell: yeah [16:07] * shadeslayer is still operating @ 20KBps [16:07] flipping ISP madness [16:07] stuff is down all over New Delhi ... [16:08] ScottK: did I not fix the hal issues? [16:08] took me a day to just upgrade to RC2!!! [16:08] * apachelogger seems to remember backporting something from upstream [16:08] also [16:08] blogging [16:08] apachelogger: No idea, but I thought that's what markey was whining about. [16:08] shadeslayer: that is what you get for living on the north pole [16:08] apachelogger: I think he's on the east pole. [16:08] heh :P [16:08] east pole then [16:09] ScottK: markey is always whining about smth :P [16:09] ScottK: more likely is that someone did not backport my k3b fix [16:09] as I only applied it in natty [16:09] apparently theyre upgrading infrastructure and im supposed to be getting a bandwidth upgrade [16:09] he was moaning that someone put a picture of him on facebook earlier [16:09] Probably. [16:09] yeah [16:09] the strangest thing! [16:09] someone apparently hacked my facebook account [16:09] and put pictures of markey online [16:09] very weird [16:09] the cads [16:10] kubotu: google cads [16:10] Results for cads: 1. CADS: Help for Skiers Knees: http://www.cads.com/ | 2. Center for Advanced Defense Studies | Innovation for Peace: http://www.c4ads.org/ | 3. Cad | Define Cad at Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cad [16:10] nope, none of them [16:10] stupid google [16:10] kubotu: google cad [16:10] Results for cad: 1. Ctrl-Alt-Del Comic: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/ | 2. Computer-aided design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design | 3. Atlanta CAD Services, Inc. Training in Norcross, Georgia, United ...: http://www.training-classes.com/providers/00/07/724_atlanta_cad_services_inc_.php [16:10] nope, none of them, google isn't posh and english enough [16:11] ^^ [16:11] its like ive gone back to the era of dialup [16:11] :S [16:11] shadeslayer: you had faster webs at the east pole? [16:11] yes [16:12] strange enough [16:12] and then my ISP went : "oh lets upgrade and screw everyone else" [16:12] so here i am [16:12] getting screwed by Airtel [16:12] shadeslayer: go do the blogging, blogging is esay on the bandwith [16:12] well [16:12] apachelogger: yeah .... blogilo is downloading at 10KBps [16:12] and someone [16:12] intarwebs over air is bound to be slower than over cable [16:12] plz2fix kdm [16:13] apachelogger: not when your operating on N band WiFi [16:13] of course you at the east pole have all sorts of deserts I suppose [16:13] 150Mbps [16:13] shadeslayer: yeah [16:13] so [16:13] you have only local intarwebs? [16:13] lawl ^^ [16:14] yeah [16:14] pretty much ... [16:14] as surely you still need cablez to get to the rest of the worlds pr0n [16:14] ScottK: well, I am resonable confident that k3b in natty does not exhibit those hal problems [16:14] see even kronos is timing out :P [16:14] if only someone could backport it [16:14] shadeslayer: I do not [16:14] apachelogger: you do not what? :P [16:14] people here time out and change nicks and stuff so often that I turned that off [16:15] * Trouble gives apachelogger a hug [16:15] oh [16:15] * apachelogger feels troubled now [16:15] :D [16:20] wasn't it a bit risky to do the whole HAL nuking in Maverick? [16:20] no HAL in maverick? 0_o [16:21] markey: well if you have hal installed then it's another issue, something with KDE Platform 4.6 and K3b interaction [16:22] ok [16:22] there's nothing that removes hal in maverick for people [16:22] was just wondering, because "upower" was missing here, and half of my ThinkPad stopped working... [16:22] no power management, no sound... [16:22] markey: yeah I fixed that, added it as a dependency now [16:22] ah cool [16:22]