/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/07/#kubuntu.txt

gr8m8kleopatra:  sudo netstat -tulp   should show what the server name is00:00
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AderlassAny ideas? :)00:12
James147Aderlass: ^^ best to repeat the question so new users know what you are asking :)00:12
Aderlass:D00:13
AderlassI'm trying to set up wireless lan on my netbook (Lenovo S12 ION, Braodcom Ethernet/Wifi), enabled the Broadcom wireless Driver (I can choose between STA and B43, tried both) but i can't find any networks00:13
James147Aderlass: try running "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" to force a rescan (just to make sure, replace wlan0 with the actual interface)00:15
Aderlasswlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. I may add that when i use iwconfig eth1 is IEEE 902.1100:17
Aderlass*80200:17
James147replace wlan0 with eth1 if thats the wireless interface00:18
hobe_hallo00:19
hobe_??00:19
James147Hi hobe_00:20
Aderlass"eth1 Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument"00:20
hobe_i dont know were i am00:20
hobe_hallo00:20
hobe_i come here00:20
hobe_i dont know00:20
James147hobe_: you are in the kubutnu support channel00:20
hobe_ok james hallo00:20
hobe_these people all users??00:20
James147hobe_: most of them00:21
Aderlass<- trying to become one. :D00:21
hobe_i want aks something00:21
hobe_ask00:21
James147then ask :)00:21
hobe_i must turn the shift to start my ubuntu00:21
hobe_pull push ??00:21
hobe_shift00:21
hobe_if not i have no good Picture and i mustwait so long time00:22
hobe_warum spreche ich nicht Deutsch??00:22
James147hobe_: wait for how long?00:22
hobe_sometime my soundcard make piep piep or anything00:23
hobe_sometime00:23
hobe_thats same like wrong pic color anything i dont know00:24
hobe_i have fast track on boot RAID00:25
hobe_it stops long time and i must shift pull for go on BOOT00:25
hobe_James??00:25
hobe_HALLO00:25
hobe_any one there?00:26
Mamarokhobe_: patience :)00:26
Mamarokno need to shout00:26
hobe_what is patience00:26
hobe_???00:26
hobe_div it please00:26
hobe_i dont whant shout00:26
Mamarokhobe_: if you want to talk German, ask in #kubuntu-de00:27
Mamarokpatiene = Geduld00:27
hobe_i use Uubunu know for 3 MOnth and never thoght my Windows lol00:27
hobe_thx00:27
Mamarokyou are welcome, but keep in mind that it is 01:27 in Germany right now, you might not find many people awake now00:28
hobe_its funny but every time these prob00:28
James147hobe_: sorry :) i have other things to do so am slow to respond, it sounds like grub is hiding the menu (pressing shift forces it to show the menu) but not timing out...00:29
James147hobe_: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/default/grub ?00:29
James147!pastebin00:29
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:29
hobe_i dont anderstand anything00:29
hobe_goodbay00:30
maxjezyhello, in ubuntu, i'll install KDE-standard00:41
maxjezybut, should i use KDM or GDM?00:42
maxjezyin the package config when installing it ask me00:42
James147maxjezy: dosent really matter, pick which ever one you like more00:42
maxjezyJames147, what do you use?00:42
James147maxjezy: you can swap between them after its installed by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" (or gdm)00:42
maxjezyokey, thnx00:43
James147maxjezy: i dont use gnome, so kdm00:43
James147(kdm is the default on kubuntu, gdm the default on ubuntu)00:43
maxjezyi use gdm then00:43
maxjezyi just want to try KDE out a bit, looks really nice in the screenshots00:44
maxjezyand i want the minitube to work out of box00:44
James147maxjezy: kde will be availble as a session option from both gdm and kdm00:44
maxjezyJames147, i know that, i have been trying it out for some minutes back in the days00:45
maxjezyokey, thnx alot so now i go buy some snax then i try out KDE a bit!00:46
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sfearsminitube is not working for me either.  the previews show but no content behind them00:51
jenovhola01:01
jenovalguien de españa o que hablr castellano porfi01:02
AderlassIs phonon-backend-vlc recommedet?01:05
valorieAderlass: whatever works01:11
valoriefor me, it's xine01:11
valorievlc used to work well, but now it's crashing on play for me01:11
valorieand gst is being worked on too01:12
valoriegst is going to be recommended for natty01:12
rtdosisn't the command to force fsck on the next reboot "sudo touch fsck" ?01:13
yofelit's 'sudo touch /forcefsck'01:14
James147rtdos: that will create a file called fsck in the current directory... if creating that file somewhere will force a fsck, then i would think its not the current directory :) my guess would be the root of the file system ( eg / )01:15
James147^^ or that one :001:15
rtdosthanks guys.01:16
James147yofel: ^^ my guess is it looks for that file in the root of the drive (ie /home if you have a /home partition and want to check that partition?)01:17
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AbhishThe KDE netbook interface is very nice.01:18
yofelIIRC it did behave like that at one point - but looking at current /etc/init/mountall.conf it seems only /forcefsck is supported01:18
James147Abhish: it is :)01:19
James147yofel: thanks :)01:19
* James147 need to reboot so will test it ^^01:21
ecinxhow do i set up my printer?01:22
rtdoswhat does it mean when after doing a sudo touch /forcefsck, it shows x% as non-contiguous and where do i find those log files?01:22
ecinxit's a network printter01:22
yofelecinx: tried to set it up in system settings -> printer configuration?01:23
ecinxI think that's where I am01:23
yofelrtdos: I'm not sure that's logged anywhere by default, latter has to do with framentation I think01:24
yofel*fragmentation01:24
ecinxlocation of the LPD network printer01:24
rtdosok, thanks yofel01:24
ecinxon hte left i clicked the name of my printer01:24
ecinxthe name of one of my printers01:24
ecinxBRNF22A06 or localhost?01:26
ecinxbrb i think i got it01:28
ecinxlocalhost didn't work before01:28
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ecinxit doesn't print. It prints a testpage but can't print form an application01:40
ecinxprinting from kate works but not from Okular01:49
James147yofel: if you care at all, it looks like only /forcefsck is used (the one i created in /home still exsists), but it also looks like that one file checks all the disks (it scaned my thrid disk which dident have the forcefsck on as well)01:50
ecinxHow do i Print a PDF?01:56
* James147 would think okular would be able to do that01:57
ecinxnothing happens01:57
ecinxi can print through kate though01:57
James147strange.... sorry, never played with printing so cant help you much, ecinx :(01:58
ecinxok thanks01:59
ecinxif i download auto key which do i get autokey-qt or qt and common?01:59
James147ecinx: i would think if you downloaded autokey-qt, it will pull -common with it... that is, if it depends on it... if it dosent then you probally dont need it02:00
ecinxoh, okay thanks02:00
* James147 notes that -common package tend to hold data common for different front ends and normally gets pulled in when you download the frontend you want02:01
FearedHmmm.02:12
rtdoshow do i pipe something to the printer (through the command line) or print a text file (through the command line)02:12
ubuntu4shanertdos: lpr file.txt02:13
ubuntu4shanertdos: however look at the man file for lpr, there are options too, you can specify # of copies, and pages I think02:13
rtdosubuntu4shane, can i also use pipe: more file.txt | lpr ?02:14
ubuntu4shanertdos: ohh, I would think, but I'm not sure, sorry I missed that pipe part.02:14
rtdosubuntu4shane: just wasn't sure the correct format of the pipe :)02:15
ubuntu4shanertdos: I would assume that looks right, if you install cups PDF printer you can test it and play around I think it is something like: more text.txt | lpr -p PDF02:17
James147rtdos: rather then more you should probally use cat02:17
rtdosubuntu4shane: isn't there a way to force it to print immediately rather than hold files (i just sent a file to my printer and it appears to be holding it)02:17
ubuntu4shanertdos: I forget the printer specification02:17
rtdosah, cat. forgot to feed the cat (as my instructor would say) :)02:18
ubuntu4shanertdos: hmm, that is odd, I thought it automatically started, let me look at my script02:18
rtdosit might be my printer too, it's on a network. (though the sample page printed out fine as well as a test page from my browser)02:19
rtdosthere now it printed, i'm not sure why the stuff i sent through the command line took longer.02:20
ubuntu4shanertdos: yeah, my script that I use for printing booklets shows this:  lpr -P printername -o media=A4 file.pdf02:20
ubuntu4shanertdos: but you don't need the printer name, it will print to the default printer02:20
ubuntu4shanertdos: not sure why it would be slower, perhaps network traffic jam?02:21
rtdosi thought of that. it might be since both are wireless on my network. no biggie. i'm just glad it at least worked. :)02:23
ubuntu4shanertdos: right. :)02:25
rtdosbrb.02:26
dennisterfresh install -- x won't load, can anyone help?02:48
EagleScreendennister: hello02:51
dennisterEagleScreen: hi back...thanks for the greeting02:54
dennistercan you help with this?02:54
EagleScreendid you install restricted drivers before X issue?02:55
dennisterno restricted drivers needed...very old compaq pIII that i love, so intel video driver02:55
dennisterit's a brand new install, from the minimal netinst., x has never worked02:56
dennisteri even installed kde to see if it was a problem with gdm, but no, kdm and gdm don't load...never even get a grey xserver screen02:57
EagleScreendennister: then you have installed Kubuntu 10.10? by netinstall with a minimal install?02:57
dennisterack! wrong channel02:58
dennistersorry guys...i need debian02:58
dennisterEagleScreen: you're in the debian channel too, so i'm gonna close this so I don't mix 'em up again :)02:59
israfilhello, i have two defect packages, libgcc1 and gcc-4.2. How can i repare them? "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo apt-get remove paketname1 paketname2" don't work02:59
israfili mean "sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.2 libgcc1"03:00
dodo_hello all03:02
dodo_when can we expect kde 4.6 rc2 packages?03:02
mcurranHow do I stop newly opening windows from activating themselves, even though I click on another active window after selecting open on the first03:04
James147mcurran: do you mean from taking focus? if so try turing up the focus stealing prevention level in system settings > window behaviour > window behaviour03:14
rtdos what is gnome shell 2.31.5 ? is it the gnome desktop or something else ?03:14
James147israfil: try removing them with dpkg:  "sudo dpkg -r <packagename>"03:17
israfilJames147: Do i have to change to any directory?03:19
James147israfil: no.03:19
EagleScreenrtdos: it is a new design of Gnome03:20
EagleScreenrtdos: it is what GNOME 3.0 will use03:20
rtdosthanks eaglescreen03:30
rtdosjames don't you mean desktop effects?03:33
James147rtdos: i do?03:35
rtdosnope. you're right. i was just seeing if i was paying attention. :)03:36
* James147 is only most paying attention :p and by that he means not really03:36
hondohey all , Can anyone tell me how to turn off edge flipping?03:37
EagleScreenhondo: what edge flipping is, the effect for swtich between windows?03:38
James147hondo: under system settings > window behaviour > screen edge03:40
hondoEagleScreen: Yes, I use the cube to display Virtual Desktops. When I slide the cursor to the screen edge it flips to another desktop03:40
hondoEagleScreen: Thanks I wish that would do it. I can set the screen corner there, but oddly not the edges.03:42
EagleScreenhondo: Systemsettings -> Desktop Effects (in Kubuntu 10.10)03:43
James147hondo: ^^ "switch desktop on edge" set it to disabpled (on that page)03:43
ecinxwhy doe some aplications, such as firefox 4 look ugly?03:49
James147ecinx: because they are gtk applications :p03:49
ecinxoh03:49
ecinxi remember gtk when i used to use gaim on windows years ago03:50
ecinxvery ugly03:50
James147firefox-kde-support  might help for firefox03:50
ecinxok will do03:50
EagleScreenJames147, ecinx gtk apps should be reasonable beauty by the kcm-gtk module03:51
ecinxEagleScreen: I didn't understand03:52
hondoEagleScreen: James147: Doh! I missed that part of the screen. Thanks.03:52
ecinxfirefox kde support did nothing :(03:53
James147ecinx: make sure gtk2-engines-qtcurve  is installed then check system settings > application appearence > gtk...03:53
EagleScreenecinx: there is a tool to manage the appareance of gtk applications in KDE, and if you use a good theme (like Qtcurve) they shouldn't be very ugly03:53
ecinxyou guys are twins?03:53
ecinxgt-en-qt is installed03:54
James147ahh, too many keyboards03:56
ecinxhmm wonton soup03:56
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FloridaGuydid a apt-get upgrade....and plymouth went from kubuntu logo to text04:14
ecinxmaybe the sun in florida ate it04:16
FloridaGuyit night time..so sun out04:16
ecinxhmm04:16
ecinxi'm in florida too04:16
FloridaGuywhat part04:17
ecinxgainesville04:17
FloridaGuyleesburg herre04:17
FloridaGuyhere04:17
ecinxahh... don't know where that's at04:17
ecinxim originally from the bronx and last 4 years in miami04:18
FloridaGuyabout 30 north west of orlando04:18
SnowhogFloridaGuy: From a console, try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:18
FloridaGuy30 min04:18
ecinxnice04:18
FloridaGuySnowhog: whats going to do for the plymoth kubuntu logo04:19
SnowhogFloridaGuy: 'dist-upgrade' handles dependencies "intelligently". It won't hurt, and it might help.04:20
FloridaGuynothing to upgrade04:21
FloridaGuywhats the commands for reslecting the plymouth themes04:22
ecinxautocomplete abreviatin isn't working for me in kile04:35
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israfilhello, can you help me? http://dpaste.com/295116/07:10
valorieisrafil: you have two ubuntus installed next to one another?07:13
israfili have lucid on one partition and hardy on another07:14
valorieinteresting07:21
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AbhishPlasma desktop is suddenly unresponsive.07:42
AbhishRebooted, still no change.07:42
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m_tadeuare you able to kill it?08:09
elkngwhat the difference between "Regular Kubuntu CD" and "Alternate Kubuntu CD" ?08:25
James147elkng: the you will most likly want the regular, the alternative is generally used then the regular one wont do (text installer, for example)08:26
elkngcan I use the "Alternate CD" to create live USB from live CD?08:27
elkngis it possible to do this without live installer with only text installer?08:27
jhohnelkng: How to install from USB you can find there-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, yes you can use the alternate CD to create your USB install stick08:30
tsimpsonelkng: no, if you want a live USB then you need the regular one08:30
tsimpsonthe ISO image is just run from the USB device, rather than a CD08:31
jhohntsimpson: sure? Can't use the alternate as live?08:31
tsimpsonjhohn: the alternate CD image is text-only08:31
jhohnyes, but if I want a text onnly live system?08:32
tsimpsonboth would install the same system in the end, but the install interfaces are different (GUI vs text)08:32
tsimpsondepends what you mean exactly by "live" there08:32
tsimpsonthe ISO is just ran directly from the USB device as opposed to a CD-ROM08:33
jhohnrun a system from the USB Stick without installing08:33
elkngthe only reason I want this CD is to create bootable USB flashdrive, am I able create one with text-installer?08:33
tsimpsonso whatever is on the cd-image is run regardless of the medium08:33
tsimpsonyou can install to a USB device with both installers, but that's different from a "live" USB/CD08:34
tsimpsonjhohn: the alternate CD has basic sh shell interface (not bash), but nothing special08:34
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ForgeAushey all :) so whats new with 10.10 ?08:46
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elkngis there grub2 in Kubuntu 10.10 ?09:46
valorieyes09:48
Tm_Telkng: yes, there's an option to choose between grub2 and grub in the installer09:48
valorie!grub09:48
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.09:48
Rahvinlist10:01
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javierAnyone on?10:51
javierI need help...10:51
javierI just installed Kubuntu 10.1010:52
javierI need to know how to mount my Hitachi 500GB external USB drive...10:52
javierHello there!10:55
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harrisonhey folks when is 4.6 rc2 for kubuntu out11:20
harrisonanyone11:23
harrisonno one :(11:25
harrison4.6 rc2 for kubuntu coming out at all11:31
harrisoncomeon anyone11:34
Newbeehello11:38
harrisonhey11:38
NewbeeI have a anoying problem.11:38
harrisonwhat is it?11:38
NewbeeWhen I use the compositing features of kwin I have sometimes no video (in vlc, dragon, kaffeine...). Miro crashes... . Disabling the compositing solves the problem11:39
harrisonhmm11:39
harrisoni had issues11:39
harrisonwhat i did was install compiz11:40
NewbeeRebooting also let's me use video and compositing for some time. But then the problem returns after a while.11:40
Newbeecan anybody help? Has anyone a idea what to do?11:40
harrisonyea really try compiz it will fix11:41
harrisonkwin is too buggy11:41
Newbeeso you say I should replace kwin with compiz?11:41
harrisonyes11:41
harrisonwill fix issues11:42
NewbeeIsn't kwin needed for some kde-specific things like preview in the panel and so on?11:42
harrisonjust grab deb online and install11:42
harrisonnope11:42
harrisoni have compiz running11:42
harrison4.6 rc2 for kubuntu coming out at all11:43
Newbeeand KDE is working as with comiz as with kwin?11:43
israfilhello, i use kubuntu hardy heron and installed the prorietary nvidia driver. The display stays really dark. Can i use kwriteconfig to set the brightnewss of the display?11:45
adiljanhi11:46
adiljanhow to use kubantu?11:46
adiljankubuntu?11:47
israfiladiljan: what?11:47
adiljani am new for kubuntu11:47
adiljani am using ubuntu and i wanna try kubuntu now11:47
israfili don't know much, but you could switch to the KDE. You don't need to install Kubuntu newly11:48
adiljanI know11:49
adiljanthank you11:49
israfilno problem11:50
harrisonsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:51
harrisonthats how you switch11:52
harrisontakes 1 hour11:52
israfili use kubuntu hardy heron and installed the prorietary nvidia driver. The display stays really dark. Can i use kwriteconfig to set the brightnewss of the display? Or what else can i do?12:10
kaddi_Hi, I have a problem with my window decorations. I set the title bar to be green and it works for all themes, except qtcurve, where it just uses the default color  of the widget style. Anyone has an idea where I can fix that?12:30
daithefluhi, I've heard this chan is the good place to ask about PyKDE, is that right ?12:39
tsimpsondaitheflu: #kubuntu-devel would be better than here, more coders there12:40
daitheflutsimpson: thanks a lot :)12:41
israfilhello. Since i installed an proprietary nvidia driver my display stays really dark. What can i do? The nvidia-xserver-settings don't work well for me13:02
israfili use kubuntu hardy heron. I tried the laptop-mode-tools, but they don't work13:03
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kaddi_when I try to run partitionmanager with kdesudo I get this message: kdesudo(3613) KDESu::KDESuPrivate::KCookie::getXCookie: No X authentication info set for display  ":0"  how can i fix that?13:52
84XABIUT3hello all.. does someone know when this workaround will be used? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/604122 i need to put some files on my sd-card..14:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 604122 in linux (Ubuntu) "mmc0: Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress." [Undecided,Confirmed]14:22
84XABIUT3in kubuntu-devel they telled me, there's already a solution which i found here.. what i've to do?14:23
84XABIUT3i'm sorry when i stress, but i'm a bit in a hurry.. no one here wo know how i could send some files to my card?14:26
Gargoyle1976Is there an IRC for upgrade problems when going from 10.04 to 10.10??15:03
BluesKajGargoyle1976, this is it15:04
Peace-Gargoyle1976: ?15:05
Peace-BluesKaj: hey man15:05
Peace-^^15:05
BluesKajhi Peace-15:05
sylHi all15:06
Gargoyle1976ok...I have tried to go to 10.10...but it keeps giving the error "can't calculate space(?) for the upgrade" then it bails out15:06
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BluesKajGargoyle1976, how are you installing?15:07
Guest23280who can help me?15:07
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Gargoyle1976btw...semi-new...definitely not afraid of CLI15:07
Gargoyle1976KPackageKit15:07
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Disttrubution upgrade15:08
Guest23280I cant update system fro kpackagekit because system is not see the updates15:08
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: man can't type today15:08
BluesKajGargoyle1976, I'm not a fan of kpackagekit , why not just do , sudo do-release-upgrade , in the terminal15:09
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj:  Ok..I'll try15:09
Guest23280I have kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5.1, how i can update kde to 4,5,4,15:09
BluesKajGargoyle1976, and firstly make sure you have no ppas added after you last install, in your sources.list15:09
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: I thought I had removed them all...I'll double check15:10
Guest23280who from RUSSIA?15:11
Peace-!ru15:11
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:11
Guest23280!ru15:11
BluesKajGargoyle1976, you can comment them out with # in front15:11
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: I can never remember...where is the file again?15:12
Peace-Guest23280: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45415:12
BluesKajGuest23280, do this in th terminal then update : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa15:13
BluesKajGargoyle1976, alt +f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list15:14
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj Thanks!15:14
DaskreecHGargoyle1976: how much space do you have on / ?15:15
Gargoyle1976DaskreecH ~80GB  /= ~100GB; /home= ~800GB; swap= ~10GB15:17
DaskreecHGargoyle1976: try sudo do-release-upgrade ?15:18
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: 'Could not calculate the upgrade'  is the result.  I have no other sources other than the main one...must be help packages15:18
BluesKajGargoyle1976, have you done any upgrades pervios to this with in 10.04?15:19
BluesKajh DaskreecH. he did15:20
rtdoshow do i get the process id of a running program ?15:21
BluesKajrtdos,  system monitor15:22
rtdoswhere would it be located in my menu?15:23
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj Like regular ones?15:24
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj It states everything is up to date15:24
BluesKajrtdos, do need some one put your socks on for every morning too ? :)15:24
BluesKajGargoyle1976, just try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , first15:26
rtdosblueskaj, i do not see it under menu > system or menu > utilities15:26
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj OK15:26
BluesKajrtdos, kmenu /apps/system15:27
rtdosblueskaj, i'm there but it's missing, can i execute it from the dialog box (or re-create the menu entry)?15:28
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BluesKajalt+f2 , system monitor15:29
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: got a 'Failed to read mirror file' warning15:29
rtdosthanks, blues.15:31
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BluesKajGargoyle1976, post your sources.list on pastebin, and post the resulting url here , so we can hae a look15:35
BluesKajGargoyle1976, did the update quit or stall , or did it continue?15:36
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: working...15:44
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj http://pastebin.com/M7eH2he315:50
BluesKajGargoyle1976, is the update finished successfully , some mirrors aren't always available , that's no biggie.15:58
rtdosis there a youtube video downloader for kde / kubuntu (or firefox) ?15:59
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BluesKaj!youtube-dl | rtdos16:02
BluesKajrtdos, anyway install youtube-dl , it's a cli app16:03
rethushow can i activate kdm (now i have gdm activatet with gnome)16:05
BluesKajrethus, if you have kubuntu-desktop installed , start kdem at the login16:06
BluesKajerr kdm16:06
rethusi have choosed gdm on ubuntu-desktop installation16:07
rethusso i see no dialoge to choose kdm or gdm16:07
BluesKajrethus, or, ctrl+alt+f1 , sudo service gdm stop , then sudo service kdm start16:08
BluesKajthen startx16:08
BajK_There will be packages of KDE 4.6 RC2 for 10.10, won't they?16:12
Peace-i think yes16:14
Peace-wait :) and reload sometime this16:14
Peace-http://www.kubuntu.org/news16:14
BajK_hm okay16:20
BajK_the last time they became available on friday morning, but well, okay16:20
BajK_as long as I get them :D since the RC1 is worse than Beta2 was16:20
Peace-BajK_: ... dude you should not use rc if you want a stable system :)16:21
Peace-BajK_: i have natty and lucid16:21
Peace-lucid for stable16:21
Peace-no upgrade16:21
Peace-natty = the hell of upgrading xxD16:21
BajK_it is stable ;D but there are just a few minor inconveniences16:21
BajK_Are there already Alfa builds out of natty or is there the daily/nightly snapshots only atm?16:22
buntu87whick kernel version does natty use?16:22
BluesKajnatty here , there's a lot of changes happening today , 2.6.37-12-generic16:23
buntu87Thx BluesKaj16:24
BluesKajBajK_, mostly daily / nightly "snapshots"16:24
BajK_Will Ubuntu (not Kubuntu) 11.04 be shipped with Wayland or was that just some rumors?16:24
buntu87do you know which version of kubuntu should I use for longer battery life on laptop? I use maverick with KDE - destkop release and battery lasts only half its normal time - 50 mins16:25
BajK_buntu87: try installing TLP battery tools16:25
Peace-BajK_: wayland?16:26
Peace-hahaha16:26
Peace-i hope no16:26
BluesKajwhat's wayland?16:26
BajK_Peace-: X sucks. I hope they will go for Wayland at some time :)16:26
Peace-BluesKaj: new server X16:26
BajK_Peace-: display server, it has nothing to do with X16:27
Peace-BluesKaj: o well a server x without a ltos of stuff16:27
Peace-BluesKaj: improve performance = 016:27
BajK_buntu87: TLP are some battery tools that allow you switching off many stuff you dont need (bluetooth, wifi, and stuff)16:27
BluesKajlike that silly silverlight for IE ?16:27
rtdosthanks again, blueskaj, works perfectly.16:27
BajK_Peace-: hm16:28
buntu87BajK_: which package is it? tlprender?16:28
BajK_buntu87: you need an additional ppa installed ppa:linrunner/tlp16:28
BajK_and then the package tlp becomes available16:28
BajK_starting it with sudo tlp start && sudo tlp bat16:28
BajK_this increased batteyr life on my notebook16:29
BajK_tlp bat switches to battery mode16:29
BajK_I have a detailed description but it is in German unfortunately16:29
BluesKajcan someone recall the name of the url-video downloader that works like youtube-dl but for all other video platforms besides flash?16:29
Peace- BluesKaj keepvid ?16:29
buntu87BajK_: thx16:30
BluesKajPeace-, keepvid's not familiar ...don't think so16:30
BluesKajit's acli app16:30
Peace-BluesKaj: try that shoudl work16:30
Peace-ahh16:30
Peace-dunno16:30
BajK_buntu87: I don't know whether you need to run these commands every time you start your system but I added them to my startup script just in case^^16:30
rethuswhats that : http://uppix.net/9/0/7/c4eb04509cc897f0817c0f1d89c57.jpg16:34
rethusabove my kontrollbar, some of the systray-icons appear16:35
jeiworthhi all, looking for a decent voip softphone for linux, preferably kde/qt. i am currently using twinkle which is quite nice but since the project seems pretty dead you might have a suggestion for another solution with equal capabilities?16:36
Peace-jeiworth: skype?16:36
ralsinazoiper ?16:36
jeiworthPeace-, thx, already have skype, but skype cannot be used as a sip-phone ;)16:39
jeiworthralsina, thx, will take a look16:39
Peace-!voip16:39
ubottuVoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX.16:39
DaskreecHcan I source a function within a heredoc?16:40
FlashDeluxehi!! does anybody can tell me how i can really force linux to unmount my usdb-disk? umount -f doesnt work (device busy), lsof and fuser do not replie anything helpful :(16:54
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Peace-FlashDeluxe: mm nice16:59
Peace-xD16:59
Peace-looking for something16:59
Peace-FlashDeluxe: ok have ytou seen this for example http://ocaoimh.ie/how-to-umount-when-the-device-is-busy/ fuser -m ?17:00
Peace-FlashDeluxe: if yes have you used sudo umount stuff?17:01
FlashDeluxePeace- yes i tried that too and i am root17:01
jeiworthFlashDeluxe, to me that usually happens when i am still within the folder of the usb stick, either with dolphin or in a shell17:05
FlashDeluxejeiworth: No, theres only one shell open and i am not at the mountpoint or on the disk17:06
Peace-mm17:08
Peace-strange17:08
Peace-kde' version?17:08
FlashDeluxeits a server17:08
Peace-buntu kernel version ?17:08
FlashDeluxe2.6.26-2-vserver-amd6417:08
Peace-so kde doesn't run ?17:09
Peace-right?17:09
FlashDeluxethere is no gui on it, its a server ;)17:09
Peace-are you sure someservice is not using the folder?17:09
Peace-i am sorry but i am a server ignorant17:10
Peace-i guess some service is using the stuff17:10
FlashDeluxemaybe, but i cannot find out17:10
FlashDeluxei unplugged the usb drie17:10
FlashDeluxe*drive17:10
FlashDeluxebut its still there, mounted17:10
Peace-filesystem?17:11
FlashDeluxexfs17:11
FlashDeluxeand there has to be sth wrong, dmesg says Filesystem "sdf1": xfs_log_force: error 5 returned.17:11
Peace-mm17:11
Peace-could be the stuff your are looking for17:12
FlashDeluxeso is there a way to just kick the mount away?17:12
Peace-FlashDeluxe: http://www.google.it/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=device+busy+linux+umount#sclient=psy&hl=it&q=xfs_log_force:+error+5+returned.+umount&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=cb3bac95fcb517ef17:12
Peace-FlashDeluxe: xD bad news i seee17:13
Peace-invastigate for it17:13
FlashDeluxei did17:14
FlashDeluxetheres no solution, so i just want to kill it17:14
Peace-letme see if there is a way17:16
Peace-FlashDeluxe: i can't find anysolution fast17:20
Peace-fast solution17:20
FlashDeluxePeace- you know what? Then i will go home now :)17:20
Peace-yea :D17:21
FlashDeluxethats the best solutio, thanks for help! have a nice weekend :)17:21
phoenix_firebrd!gles17:25
BajK_yes man, 4.6 RC 2 out :)17:26
phoenix_firebrdwhat is gles17:26
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: is kde 4.6 rc2 available for kubuntu?17:26
Peace-phoenix_firebrd:  looka at this when it cames  http://www.kubuntu.org/news17:27
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: good17:28
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: what is gles17:28
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: for 10 minutes :D17:28
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: sorry i couldnt get you17:29
phoenix_firebrdgles= OpenGL for Embedded System17:37
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: ?17:45
BajK_hm, who needs a macbook if he can have a nice aluminium notebook for 750 euro with kubuntu  :P17:46
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: thats right17:46
BajK_KDE looks so noble with that shiny transparent panel and the glarry display :P :)17:47
BajK_glossy17:47
phoenix_firebrdtoday i installed kubuntu in my friends laptop17:48
phoenix_firebrdstumbled upon a bug17:48
BajK_hm, nice, no more restore animation in window grid :) yay17:49
phoenix_firebrdwindows is no match for kubuntu17:49
BajK_*g*17:50
BajK_hm it seems they changed the plasma taskbar theme in rc2 :(17:50
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: starting form rc2?17:51
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: in rc1 i didnt notice any changes17:51
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: the file copying animation overlay is superb17:52
BajK_yes, in rc217:52
BajK_i just installed it on my notebook17:52
BajK_the buttons are smaller in height17:53
BajK_and they are now "Pressed" when a window has focus instead of iluminated17:53
BajK_and they have a more contrast outline17:53
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: so you like it?17:54
BajK_no.17:54
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: hmmm17:54
BajK_of course, it is just because you are used to the older ones but they are smaller17:54
BajK_and the margins are different17:54
BajK_to the bottom there is a bigger margin17:54
BajK_which renders them smaller and it looks nbad17:54
BajK_so I know what I will do before upgrading on my compouter :P17:54
BajK_save the plasma theme17:54
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: you will get use to it17:54
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: wont it be available17:55
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phoenix_firebrdBajK_: in kde planet a fellow wants to trade his macbook for a thinkpad heh.17:56
BajK_seen it17:56
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: very funny17:57
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: is rc2 stable?17:58
epHaving difficulties installing a new HP printer on 10.04. I installed hplip and hplib gui.  connected via usb cable.   Utilty doesn't find it17:58
phoenix_firebrdep: have you tried xsane?17:59
BajK_/usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/tasks.sgvz just copy this file and you'll keep the original style :P17:59
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: I use kde 4.6 since beta 1 and it rocks18:00
BajK_RC2 is much better than RC118:00
BajK_Rc1 was a regression compared to beta 218:00
BajK_hm, kpackagekit still crashes when opening it not from systemsettings18:00
epi cant really even find the printer install utilily :)  I'm trying to do simple18:01
epstart me from scratch --- please18:01
phoenix_firebrdep:is your printer detected.18:01
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: ya18:01
djusticeBajK_: kpkgkit prob needs a rebuild for 4.6rc2 libs18:01
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: what about bluedevil18:01
epi dont think so but how do i check phoenix18:01
phoenix_firebrdep: use this command "sudo lsusb"18:01
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: I dont use bluedevil, since I dont need it and it doesnt recognize my bluetooth on the notebook at all :P18:02
BajK_djustice: hm okay, so it's the old version= that explains everything, thx18:02
BajK_RC2 feels a bit slower than RC1 in terms of window resizing and stuff18:02
BajK_dolphin is a pain to use18:03
phoenix_firebrdep: are you a beginner18:04
epbeginner but can do command line:  Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:032a Hewlett-Packard18:04
phoenix_firebrdep: good18:04
eplooks like the only line that might apply18:04
phoenix_firebrdep: install the xsane app and try18:04
epxsane is already installed18:04
eptry it, how?18:04
phoenix_firebrdrun the app18:04
phoenix_firebrdep: run the app18:04
epit's command line?18:04
phoenix_firebrdep: no18:05
epwhere is it18:05
epi just did sudo aptituted install xsane  ---  No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.18:05
seanvkHi, how are folks connecting to an EAP TLS network with KDE? It doesn't appear to be supported with the KDE plasmoid applet or the Knetworkmanager. I have had to use a wpa_supplicant script18:05
epso thats where i'm at, maybe it isn't installed18:06
phoenix_firebrdep: try with kpackagekit18:06
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: thats bad18:07
epi'm better with the command line :)18:07
epi'll try18:07
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: what is the kernel version used in rc2?18:07
epkpackagekit, i never use18:07
epso  it's all new18:08
phoenix_firebrdep: why is that so18:08
epit confuses me... the interface18:08
epit's hard to search18:08
phoenix_firebrdep: its very simple18:08
epi dont know which icon means it's already installed and which icons means it uninstalled18:08
phoenix_firebrdep: any way you install the xsane app18:09
phoenix_firebrdwho is flooding?18:10
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: xane?18:11
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: skanlite?18:11
epphoenix kpackkit search for xsane listed 6 items .... the top one has a gray X next to it (what does that mean??)   it says its a featureful graphical frontend for sane18:11
phoenix_firebrdep: that means that is not installed. thats is the one you should install now18:12
epgotcha18:13
Peace-ep: you need a scanner program ?18:13
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: i havent tried those18:13
Peace-ep: kubuntu ---___> skanlite18:13
Peace-xane si for gnome18:13
epgeeze i hit apply and nothing happens18:15
phoenix_firebrdep:did you press the install button18:15
Peace-ep: open a terminal18:15
Peace-ep: sudo apt-get install skanlite18:15
Peace-.18:15
phoenix_firebrdep: press the install button next to the app and then press the apply button18:15
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: if this doesnt work then let his try your idea18:16
epthere is no install button and i was never prompted for a root password18:17
epi hate kpackagekit18:17
Peace-ep: kid ... open a terminal18:17
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: sorry, was having dinner. ehm its a normal 10.10 I doubt kde would change the kernel18:18
phoenix_firebrdep: Peace-is trying to help you can you try his idea18:18
sithlord48shane4ubuntu: are you around?18:18
epokaay peace/phoenix_firebrd i'm install have to upgrade  libplasma first18:18
ephang on18:18
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: are you sure?18:19
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: its 2.6.35-24-generic-pae18:19
epdone18:19
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: you upgraded your normal installation right?18:19
Peace-BajK_: kde is a desktop environment kernel recognizes hardware so...18:19
Peace-ep: did you install skanlite?18:20
epPeace-: yes i did18:20
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: in the daily builds they use a different kernel version18:20
BajK_phoenix_firebrd: yep, added the beta ppa and did dist-upgrade18:20
BajK_as usual ;)18:20
Peace-ep: always in the terminal skanlite18:20
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BajK_hm, but it feels much slower than RC118:20
epok18:20
Peace-BajK_: try to create a new user...18:21
BajK_especially plasma extenders lag when opening, dolphin reacts slower and especially window maximizing takes much longer18:21
Peace-upgrading kde ----> rename $HOME/.kde could help18:21
sithlord48:( whats happend to the kubuntu ppa?  it refuses to let me finish an upgrade to 4.5.4 (shane4ubuntu ... im wonder if you resolved this)18:21
Peace-sithlord48: tooo much people?18:21
BajK_so i'll restart using the ati graphics, maybe this works a bit smoother for now18:22
sithlord48Peace-: dependcy issues..18:22
Peace-sithlord48: tried with sudo apt-get -f install ?18:22
sithlord48Peace-:  yup.18:22
phoenix_firebrdep: installed?18:22
sithlord48i got it down to 19 un upgraded..18:22
BajK_Peace-: but so I lose all my activities and stuff18:22
episnt there a search for printer gui?  I never foond... i'd intsall skan-heay (or whatever) i need to18:22
epyes skanlite is installed18:23
phoenix_firebrdep: working?18:23
Peace-BajK_: upgrading  kde -> could be a issue with configuration files...18:23
Peace-BajK_: anywayu18:23
Peace-BajK_: i use to create a new user...18:23
sithlord48Peace-:  make that 23 not upgraded.. , installed the kubuntu ppa and backport ppa..18:23
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: that is not a proper way18:23
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: i use kubuntu since 3 year18:24
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: so18:24
Peace-i didn't mess the system18:24
epPeace-: No devices found18:24
Peace-ever18:24
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: you create a new user for every upgrade?18:24
BajK_i did never create a new use r:D18:25
phoenix_firebrdep: try the xsane app18:25
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: i create a new user alway when i upgrade , i understand if there is something of wrong in the hold18:25
Peace-and i fix18:25
Peace-:)18:25
phoenix_firebrdBajK_: :)18:25
Peace-old18:25
Peace-ep:  2 ways the scanner is not plugged18:26
BajK_but I'll give it a try renaming .kde ;)18:26
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: i feel that its improper18:26
Peace-ep: or there is not the driver18:26
epphoenix_firebrd: ep@ephome:~$ sudo aptitude install xsane-common    (gives me no packages will be installed or upgraded)18:26
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: if you are kde guy you should know that upgrading kde there is the possibility to get a bad confgiuration files in the new kde that could mess kde18:26
phoenix_firebrdep: try sudo aptitude install xsane18:27
sithlord48i have never ever made a new user for a kde upgrade...18:27
Peace-sithlord48:  luck18:27
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: good18:27
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: i too18:27
Peace-sithlord48: a lots of people got problems18:27
epphoenix_firebrd: same message18:27
sithlord48Peace-: idk i have done way to many upgrades on to many systems for it to be just luck18:27
BajK_hö :D i just deleted .kde and all my configs are still there18:27
BajK_hm ti seems it just re-renamed that folder18:28
Peace-sithlord48: i support kubuntu here since 3 year i have seen a lots of people not one pc18:28
epi think theres a driver this a newer monochrome laser printer and HP supports it18:28
sithlord48idk why it says  i need old packages. for some reason to install kubuntu-desktop18:28
phoenix_firebrdep: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/xsane-common/download18:28
phoenix_firebrdep: wait18:28
epi checked before purchase... checked the ubuntu forums18:29
Peace-mmm18:29
Peace-ep: usb?18:29
Peace-ep: lsusb18:29
sithlord48its annoying cause i just reinstalled to avoid fixing this issue and it seams to be a repository issue. i don't get18:29
epPeace-: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:032a Hewlett-Packard18:29
Peace-ep: mm strange hp should be supported well18:30
Peace-ep: i have hp and i use skanlite18:30
Peace-that use xane engine18:30
Peace-anyway..18:30
Peace-let me see18:30
epmodel p1102w  (a cheapie)18:30
epbut new18:30
phoenix_firebrdep: http://ftp.csie.ncu.edu.tw/Linux/Ubuntu/pool/main/x/xsane/18:30
phoenix_firebrdep: try the 5 th nov 200918:31
Peace-ep: ok should works18:31
epwhy wont it install otherwise ?    WHy zero package listed?18:31
Peace-ep: run this : hp-check18:32
BajK_KDE 4.6 rocks :P18:32
epinstalling it Peace-18:33
Peace-BajK_: solved?18:33
epChecking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library development files...18:34
eperror: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency.18:34
Peace-renaming .kde?18:34
Peace-ep: oh wow you have a messed repository i guess...18:34
Peace-!repository18:34
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:34
epnow we're getting somewhere :018:34
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: still out there?.. Never did finish the upgrade18:35
epwhat repo do i need18:35
Peace-ep: read the documentation18:35
epPeace-:  i will thanks for the help.  gotta run now  I think it will work once xsane actually gets installed... i'll get back for help if i need it18:36
epphoenix_firebrd: thanks too18:36
BajK_Peace-: nope. It seems to track my actons.18:36
BajK_Neither renaming on console nor in dolphin takes effect18:36
ecinx the abrevs in kile doesn't work for me18:37
mark_ecinx ?18:39
Gargoyle197610.10 upgrade bails out while 'calculating the changes'18:40
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: do you have any manually installed packages?18:41
Gargoyle1976sithlord48: yes I'm sure I do...but how do I remove or exclude them?18:42
sithlord48intresting using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a crashes...18:42
sithlord48Gargoyle1976:  try doing so by orign  under manual (you need synaptic or maybe muon for that)18:42
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: if you dont' have synaptic use "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install synaptic" to install it quickly18:43
Gargoyle1976I have synaptic18:44
Gargoyle1976sithlord48 I have synaptic18:44
sithlord48ok under the orgin section (on the right) look for manual you should get a list of them18:44
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: will you have to click the origin button first to see the list of repos installed.18:45
Gargoyle1976sithlord48: ok18:45
sithlord48Gargoyle1976:  i had to do it too last night cause i had a bunch of debian stuff installed before my upgrade (don't ask)18:45
Gargoyle1976sithlord48: ok..clicked and looking at it18:46
sithlord48look for manual or manually (i don't remeber the exact wording..)18:47
ecinxmarkus___:  the hotstrings, or macros18:47
sithlord48then on the left you can see the packages, sort by install status by clicking on the header of the installed coloum..18:48
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Gargoyle1976sithlord48: ok...so anything w/out ubuntu repo needs to be uninstalled?18:51
sithlord48no just manually installed packages (like ones that you downloaded a .deb for)18:51
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: you can leave the medibuntu repo, wine, virtualbox, ppa's18:52
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: as well as any packages installed from those repositorys18:52
Gargoyle1976sithlord48: how can I dell if it has been install from a deb?18:54
sithlord48its orgin will be "manual"18:55
sithlord48you have to click on the manual section of orgin, WAIT  iirc its really labeled "locally " or "local"18:56
francesco_Salve, sto usando Kubuntu 10.10 su un laptop DELL 1558 con un card-reader di modello sconosciuto che non fa il suo dovere, c'è modo di scoprire il modello ed eventualmente vedere se mai funzionerà?18:58
Peace-!it | francesco_ e daje18:58
ubottufrancesco_ e daje: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:58
francesco_Hi! I'm using a Kubuntu 10.10 on a DELL 1558 laptop with an unknown card reader, is there any way to find out its model and, even more important, if it would ever work?19:00
sithlord48francesco_:  put a card in it ..19:00
BajK_hm resuming from hibernation makes the whole thing freaz19:00
BajK_freeze19:00
francesco_sithlord48: nothing happens19:01
sithlord48francesco_: you should be prompted to mount the disk , most card readers i have seen "just work"19:01
sithlord48shane4ubuntu:19:01
sithlord48shane4ubuntu: how did u fix your broken upgrade to kde 4.5.4?19:01
sithlord48shane4ubuntu:  i upgraed my netbook to maverick and now i have that issue..19:02
m477what does makefile?19:02
m477do19:03
sithlord48m477: sets rules for building (compiling) a program19:03
m477sithlord48: thank you19:03
sithlord48m477: your welcome ,19:04
smooph1hey guys ... whats the name of the package that lets you decide which grub entry to boot to in kde ?19:08
Gargoyle1976sithlord48: still not working...crap19:11
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: :(19:11
sithlord48Gargoyle1976: gl , i have to go.19:12
Gargoyle1976Well dang19:14
BajK_I doubt Kubuntu would run on a Celeron 1,4 GHz, 512 MB Ram, Mobile Intel 940 GML and 512 MB of Ram smoothly, will it? :D19:17
genii-aroundBajK_: It will run, but perhaps not with all compositing effects feasible to use19:18
BajK_genii-around: hmm i'll test it :D but since on my external HDD effects dont work, dont ask why,19:22
BajK_it always says "Compositing is not available due to:"19:22
BajK_and thjat's it19:22
genii-aroundBajK_: Is the external drive USB or eSATA ?19:23
BajK_USB19:23
genii-aroundBajK_: Probably data transfer is too slow19:24
BajK_and what has this to do with effects? :D19:24
hondoHey All, any idea how to get the icon of/in a panel  to the right side of the panel -- right justified if you will?19:24
BajK_it used to work, i think before i installed 4.6 beta 219:24
AscavasaionI installed Gnome through Kubuntu, then restarted with Gnome... I then went to synaptic and uninstalled KDE... It then asked me to stop KDM which I did and then it went to console and froze on "* Checking battery state"19:25
genii-aroundBajK_: When the computer is tied up fetching files a lot (like it must do when fetching them from an external drive) it counts against the overall performance of the desktop and makes it more likely effects will be turned off to try and improve things19:26
BajK_hm but it does not even allow me to enable them. and IT SAYS NO reason19:26
BajK_and it worked quite fine on my office computer19:27
BajK_but now it is unavailable since kde 4.619:27
BajK_and sometimes effects are even enabled but systemsettings say they cannot19:27
epphoenix_firebrd: Or anybody, help on install hp printer.   xsane is now installed.... still doesnt find device.19:31
ephp-check -->  HP Device 0x32a at 001:002: warning:     Device URI: (Makeuri FAILED)19:32
phoenix_firebrdep: not working?19:32
ephp-check --> error: User needs to be member of group 'lp' to enable print, scan & fax. User member of group 'lpadmin'.19:33
phoenix_firebrdep: did you try starting xsane with sudo?19:33
epyes not working19:33
epyes i did and it said "DONT DO THIS unless you are GOD  its dangerous19:33
phoenix_firebrdep: you should add your user to the lp group19:33
phoenix_firebrdep: goto system settings19:34
phoenix_firebrdep: select user management19:34
phoenix_firebrdep:  you there?19:35
epi'm at system settings | user managment yes19:35
epi'm the only user btw19:36
phoenix_firebrdin that under user accounts tab , double click your account name , you will get a dialog box19:36
epgot it19:37
phoenix_firebrdep: in that select the privileges and groups tab,on the right coloumn select the lpadmin19:38
Gargoyle1976getting frustrated... Can't go to 10.10!19:38
epphoenix_firebrd: hmm, it's already checked19:38
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: what do you mean by Can't go to 10.10!19:38
Gargoyle1976phoenix_firebrd: having issues upgrading to 10.1019:39
phoenix_firebrdep: select lp19:39
epphoenix_firebrd: done, it was unchecked btw19:39
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: for 10.04?19:39
Gargoyle1976phoenix_firebrd: yep19:40
phoenix_firebrdep: apply and ok19:40
BajK_lol I love linux progammers, they have a sens of humor :D19:40
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: whats happening19:40
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: black screen?19:40
BajK_oh, forgot to scroll down :D19:40
epdone, retyr xsane?19:40
phoenix_firebrdep: ya19:41
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: ?19:41
Gargoyle1976phoenix_firebrd won't calculate changes or something19:42
epokay still not finding the device... maybe i need the new driver as its a newer model?19:42
phoenix_firebrdGargoyle1976: can you paste the error message here19:43
Gargoyle1976crap gotta go19:43
phoenix_firebrdep:  try after restarting your system19:43
epbrb19:43
phoenix_firebrdep: ok19:43
epphoenix_firebrd: rebooted and xsane gives "no devices available"19:46
epi run it from the command line19:46
phoenix_firebrdep: with sudo?19:46
epnot yet :)19:46
genii-aroundShouldn't use just "sudo" with X apps anyways19:46
epi gave me a nasty message when tried that so i bailed out19:46
phoenix_firebrdep: whats your scanner again19:49
epno scanner its a simple monochrome laser printer model  P1102w19:50
epThey say the printer is fully supported, but requires hplip version 3.10.4+ (ubuntu forums)19:50
phoenix_firebrdep: ha ha ha19:51
phoenix_firebrdPeace-:  and me thought you asked for a scanner software19:51
ep:(19:52
phoenix_firebrdep: i dont know why i didnt think about that even when it said clearly lp19:53
epit's confusing in your end, im sure19:54
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: well it's a all printer scanner19:54
epdealing with so much incoming i mean19:54
Peace-and stuff like that19:54
Peace-that is managed with hpsoftware19:54
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: no19:54
Peace-no?19:54
epPeace no, it's a cheap black and white laser printer (wireless)19:54
Peace-omg19:54
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: its a driver issue i think19:54
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: ha ha ha19:55
* Peace- anyway... looks like he had bad repository anyway...19:55
ephttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147967019:55
phoenix_firebrdi agree19:55
Peace-ep: hp-setup ?19:55
Peace-ep: sudo hp-setup?19:55
epNow thats what i've been looking for all along :P19:56
epah, i run hp-setup choose usb and it doesnt discover the device19:57
epbut lsusb lists it19:57
phoenix_firebrdep: did you try this19:57
phoenix_firebrdep: they clearly say that you need the new version 3.x+19:57
phoenix_firebrdep:http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/19:58
epso how i just run the deb?19:58
epnever done that, need a help file19:58
phoenix_firebrdep: its not a deb19:58
phoenix_firebrdep: its a binary file19:58
epok i'll download it19:58
phoenix_firebrdep: make its an executable19:58
epyeah i understand19:59
epdownloading now... 20 meg connection is slow today20:00
phoenix_firebrdep: no problem20:00
phoenix_firebrdwhat client are you using to chat here?20:01
phoenix_firebrdep: what client are you using to chat here?20:02
epi'm using quassel20:02
epit's completed downloading20:02
phoenix_firebrdep: install it20:02
phoenix_firebrdep: do you know that quassel support nickname completion?20:03
epjust open konsole and sudo ./hp*.run  (right?)20:03
phoenix_firebrdep: ya20:03
noaXesshey all20:03
noaXesshave installed gimp in a english kubuntu...20:04
phoenix_firebrdep: did you make it an executable first?20:04
epphoenix_firebrd:  yes i use nick complete (tab key)20:04
phoenix_firebrdep:  good20:04
noaXesshow can i install german language just for gimp? how is the package called?20:04
epi will change to x perm20:04
noaXessor just install gimp-help-de?20:04
phoenix_firebrdep: i couldnt get you20:05
epphoenix_firebrd: "couldn't get me?"20:06
epphoenix_firebrd: running hplib, choost automatic ?20:06
phoenix_firebrdep: what do you mean by "i will change to x perm"20:07
epautomatic custom or quit20:07
phoenix_firebrdep: automatic20:07
epphoenix_firebrd: sry sloppy type... i meant set exe perm20:07
phoenix_firebrdep: oh20:07
GuiloHi !20:08
GuiloI am planning to build a media center with Kubuntu and XBMC20:08
epphoenix_firebrd: this is quite a process, it builds on the fly or somthing.20:10
GuiloI have question regarding hardware. As the computer will only be plugged through HDMI, what graphic card or motherboard should I use so that it can display bios and ttys. Any ? Or is there a feature to look for ?20:10
phoenix_firebrdnoaXess: will this do good for you http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/de/20:10
phoenix_firebrdep: ya20:10
noaXessphoenix_firebrd: hm.. not really.. cause the customer want the interface to german ;)20:11
BluesKajGuilo, I'm using hdmi from graphics card to a 42" plasma , as we speak ..everything works20:11
epr20:11
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: your question will be better answered in #hardware channel20:12
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GuiloBluesKaj : Ok, thanks and what boot. Do you see boot screen on your screen ? The wonder is : can I install Kubuntu with HDMI (regarding to drivers) and go to bios. BTW, which card/motherboard do you have ?20:12
Guilophoenix_firebrd : Ok Thanks20:13
noaXessphoenix_firebrd: i see that gimp in ubuntu is available just in english..20:13
BluesKajGuilo, use the hdmi to one of your tv hdmi inputs and you should be fine...it the same as any other monitor , you'll just have adjust fonts to be much larger20:13
phoenix_firebrdnoaXess: dont know about that20:13
noaXessok20:13
phoenix_firebrdnoaXess: i havent checked that20:14
phoenix_firebrdep:  still installing?20:14
Guilo : The fact is that my only knownledge about this is my laptop which only displays through HDMI when activated in NVIDIA panel but as it is a laptop it might be totally diffrent20:14
epphoenix_firebrd: everything seemed to go well until:"The printer you are trying to setup requires a binary driver plug-in and it failed to install."20:14
BluesKajGuilo, I'm having good luck with older 8000series and 7000series nvidia cards , there are a few probs with the newer 2and 300 series20:15
epphoenix_firebrd: however hpsetup at least finds the device now20:15
GuiloI can't join IRC it says I must be invited : is it a private channel ?20:15
GuiloI can't join "hardware*20:15
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: you have to register first20:16
BluesKajGuilo, try the hdmi out to your tv if you have the hdmi cable , it should work20:16
phoenix_firebrdep: wait20:16
domux__Guilo: same for me i hav a laptop with a 8400MGT and the HDMI work fine !20:16
Guilojust plug and play ? no configuration with the driver ? I have such a behaviour on windows with my laptop but not with kubuntu (I have nvidia card)20:17
domux__no configuration needed20:17
epphoenix_firebrd: i'll brb,  a restart can't hurt at this point20:17
phoenix_firebrdep: ok20:18
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: i asked if it is possible to output on hdmi before the driver is loaded right?20:19
domux__only plug into your tv goto the nvidia panel enable the twinview and apply20:19
Guiloyes this is the exact question20:19
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: my question?20:19
Guiloyes, your question is exactly what I am wondering20:20
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: if thats the case what domux__say cant help20:20
* BluesKaj wonders what's taking so long , it won't break Guilo :)20:20
Guiloyes20:20
domux__Guilo: yea my apologizes just misunderstood !20:21
Guilono worry !20:21
BluesKajGuilo, the driver loads before login screen20:22
GuiloYes but how will I perform the installation of Kubuntu ?20:22
GuiloInstallation will not load proprietary driver and I am not sure the open source one supports HDMI output20:23
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: i have never seen a person using dual screen before loading the driver. in your case check if any latest graphics card support  such a standalone funtion20:23
GuiloThat's what I am looking for, I am heading to  #hardware20:23
GuiloThanks for your support20:23
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: you have to register first. the fellow there are little bit cranky and they dont like noobs20:24
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: good luck20:24
GuiloThank you bye20:24
phoenix_firebrdGuilo: bye20:24
domux__Guilo: bye20:25
phoenix_firebrdep: are you there?20:27
epphoenix_firebrd: yeah but i cant stay long .... it might be working not sure.... can't figure out how to load the paper (lol)20:28
epgotta rtfm20:28
phoenix_firebrdep: rtfm?20:28
genii-aroundphoenix_firebrd: Basically "Read The Fabulous Manual"20:29
phoenix_firebrdgenii-around: ok20:29
phoenix_firebrdep: is the software installed?20:29
epi got an error message about the binary not instaling but i think it might be working anyway, not sure :)20:30
phoenix_firebrdep: is it connected through wifi?20:31
epno phoenix_firebrd, i only have a wired router... i was hoping to just use the usb cable for the time being.  That should be possible, no?20:32
phoenix_firebrdep: ya that will work20:32
NismineCan anyone help me getting flash to work with FF4?20:33
epbut i'm having trouble still loading the paper... these instructions suck20:33
phoenix_firebrdep: try the help line20:34
phoenix_firebrdep: but take care of the phone $$$20:35
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epokay it stll has a problem and i'm running out of time.... thanks for the help phoenix_firebrd.  I'll be back later20:36
phoenix_firebrdep: welcome20:36
epwere making progress at least20:36
phoenix_firebrdep: ya20:36
BluesKajNismine, reinstall flashplugin-installer20:37
phoenix_firebrdwhat is ff4?20:38
NismineBluesKaj: I did.20:38
NismineFirefox 420:38
domux__Nismine: don't forget that FF 4 is a beta version20:38
BluesKajNismine, are you on natty20:38
phoenix_firebrdNismine: did you do it with the builtin installer?20:39
NismineI did it with Kpackagekit. Not natty.20:39
phoenix_firebrdNismine: domux__is right20:39
phoenix_firebrdNismine: is the flash working in other browsers20:40
Nisminephoenix_firebrd: Well it should still work. It does work with other browsers.20:40
BluesKajNismine, the reason I asked is the new kubuntu dev release natty uses FF4 as default20:41
phoenix_firebrdwow20:41
NismineBluesKaj: Does flash work on natty?20:41
BluesKajyup20:41
phoenix_firebrdNismine: do you get any error messages in bash?20:42
BluesKajNismine, but it should work on maverick20:42
NismineI think the problem is that FF4 doesn't have a real installer, it comes in a folder.20:42
phoenix_firebrdkubuntu daily build is not updated to the latest kde 4.6 rc220:43
Nisminephoenix_firebrd: How do I check?20:43
phoenix_firebrdNismine: wiat20:43
phoenix_firebrdNismine: wait20:44
Nisminethe bash errors?20:44
phoenix_firebrdNismine: start firefox from terminal20:44
NismineOh great, now windows keep opening.20:47
yofelphoenix_firebrd: we do have 4.6 rc220:48
phoenix_firebrdyofel: just now i downloaded and saw it, it says 4.6 rc120:49
yofelbtw. there are daily builds for firefox-4.0 in the mozilla daily ppa (reasonably stable for me)20:49
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phoenix_firebrdyofel: installed or trying?20:51
yofelhm, beta ppa has 4.5.95 and natty too - only bindings is 4.5.90 since that's stuck20:51
phoenix_firebrdyofel: thats 4.0 beta 8 right?20:52
yofelphoenix_firebrd: I have rc2 installed in natty here20:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: you installed via ppa right?20:52
yofelfirefox or kde?20:52
yofelkde is from natty archive, firefox from ppa20:53
yofelas for firefox, it's a development snapshot: 4.0~b9~hg20110104r59999+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd120:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i am talking about a daily build20:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: about natty20:53
yofelaaah, sorry, misunderstood20:54
phoenix_firebrdyofel: someone here said rc2 is little bit slower is that true20:55
yofelso far feels about the same, dpends on *what* is slower for him20:55
phoenix_firebrdhim?20:56
yofelyou said *someone*20:57
phoenix_firebrdyofel: oh20:57
phoenix_firebrdyofel: he ment dolphin20:57
yofelfeels the same here, but my system is pretty fast20:58
yofelor maybe I'm just not sensitive enough after dolphin beta1 slowliness20:59
phoenix_firebrdyofel: until rc1 in natty daily builds its a fast21:00
phoenix_firebrdyofel: havent tried rc221:00
yofelwithout hal beta1 was slow as hell since it waited for it to start21:01
phoenix_firebrdyofel: are you still using hal?21:02
yofelnope21:03
sithlord48ne one have a link the the daily build for natty?21:04
yofelhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/21:04
sithlord48yofel: thank you , you just saved me a bunch of searching , for some reason i can never find it21:06
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: the build dosent contain kde rc2 yet21:07
phoenix_firebrdyofel: is there a log for daily builds?21:08
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so that we can see the changes21:08
yofelthere *is*.... now let me find it....21:09
yofelfirefox search bar is indeed awesome http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/21:09
genii-aroundThere is also http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/  which is a good jumpoff point to see what is failing to build from sources, etc21:11
NismineAlright guys, it worked after I downloaded the 64bit Firefox instead.21:12
phoenix_firebrdNismine: good21:14
phoenix_firebrdyofel: it says 4.5.95 that means its rc2 right?21:15
yofelthat's rc2 right21:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: but waht i downloaded showed rc121:17
yofelmaybe it's only partly rc221:18
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i will check that21:20
SentynelDo we know when kpackagekit is likely to be fixed?21:21
phoenix_firebrdSentynel: in 10.10?21:21
Sentynelphoenix_firebrd: with KDE4.621:22
sithlord48phoenix_firebrd:  thats ok , cause it has better then maverick's stock kde, that i can't seam to upgrade from to 4.5.4..21:22
phoenix_firebrdSentynel: its not yet fixed in rc221:22
Sentynelphoenix_firebrd: yeah, I know, I just did the upgrade21:22
Sentynelwondering if there was any news21:23
phoenix_firebrdSentynel: have you tried muon?21:23
Sentynelphoenix_firebrd: it's not overly a problem; I can just use apt-get or aptitude21:23
Sentyneljust curious really21:23
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: you have a problem upgrading?21:23
phoenix_firebrdSentynel: muon is better than kpackagekit21:24
Sentynelphoenix_firebrd: I only occasionally use a graphical package manager anyway; just makes searching a little easier sometimes21:25
Sentynelmuon reminds me rather too much of synaptic21:26
yofelwell, it's intended as an advanced package manager like synaptic21:27
Sentynelthat would be why then21:28
postdocboyI have a samba problem. I am trying to connect to a winXP computer on my campus network using kubuntu 10.10. I keep getting denied access even though I  can connect with the same username and password using ubuntu 10.10. Is there something I need to configure?21:29
sithlord48phoenix_firebrd: yea when i upgrade w/ the kubnutu ppa to kde 4.5.4 it throws all sorts of dependcy issues..21:29
sithlord48phoenix_firebrd:  in not worried i;ll give natty a try first21:30
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: ya there was a problem with the weather widget backend something called ion21:30
Sentynelsithlord48: I have a suspicion you may need to manually tell it to remove libweather-ion4a and replace it with libweather-ion521:30
Sentynelyeah, that21:31
yofelsithlord48: I fear 4.5.4 is somewhat broken currently, there was an accident with 4.5.5 so 4.5.4 is partly gone :/21:31
Sentynelafter that it should behave21:31
sithlord48idk this is a fresh insstall21:31
yofel4.5.5 should be out in a day or 2 fixing that21:31
sithlord48it wants stuff from 4.5.1-4.5.3 and complains a lot..21:31
sithlord48i will try natty , worst case i have to file some bug reports, i don't really need the netbook to work so its all good21:32
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: can you wait till 26?21:32
sithlord48phoenix_firebrd:  the 26th.?21:32
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: jan 2621:33
sithlord48for 4.5.5.?21:33
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: 4.621:33
sithlord48why should i not install natty?21:33
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: some of the componets are buggy eg. kpackagekit21:34
yofelyou can as long as you understand that natty is under development and can stop working anytime21:34
sithlord48phoenix_firebrd:  i plan to use muon21:34
phoenix_firebrdsithlord48: then go on try it21:34
sithlord48yofel:  yup i was using kde 4.0 when that was in beta so yea i seen it happen too21:34
sithlord48well the packages were beta..21:35
sithlord48the only think idk about is if i should back up my ~/ incause i want to install maverick later ,21:35
sithlord48and thats not a big deal either, but its nice to have my settings saved for me21:36
Tekk_what package provides the mig command?21:36
phoenix_firebrdi am going now, bye all21:38
hobe_hallo21:41
hobe_how is there21:41
hobe_someone here21:41
DarthFrogNobody but us chickens.21:42
hobe_i am from germany and you come from21:42
hobe_??21:42
hobe_i get Ubuntu for these21:43
hobe_what you try21:43
hobe_Hallo ??21:43
hobe_no one tell something21:44
yofelhobe_: a) please calm down - if you have a question please ask it and wait patiently for an answer b) you can speak german in #kubuntu-de21:44
DarthFrogI am from Canada.  But please remember this is a support channel for Kubuntu, not Ubuntu.  And it is not a channel for general chat.  #Kubuntu-offtopic is the general chat channel.21:44
hobe_guten abend21:44
hobe_Hallo21:44
hobe_ist hier wer da ?21:45
hobe_HUhu21:45
DarthFrog!de | hobe21:45
ubottuhobe: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:45
yofelhobe_: -> #kubuntu-de21:45
hobe__i dont know21:46
yofelhobe__: you don't know what?21:46
hobe__it was here ready for use on my ubuntu under Sftw21:47
oldchaphi, i'm trying to upgrade my karmic to lucid but i got all the time "warning: failed to read mirror file"21:47
hobe__nothing here21:47
hobe__mirror file ??21:47
hobe__karmic ??21:47
DarthFroghobe__: If you wish to have support for your Ubuntu installation, please join #Ubuntu.21:47
hobe__i use ubuntu you have Kubuntu thats diverent21:48
yofelor #ubuntu-de for that matter21:48
oldchapi'm using kubuntu21:48
hobe__waht the diverent21:48
hobe__s21:48
DarthFroghobe__: Kubuntu is a version of Ubuntu.  It uses KDE instead of GNOME.21:48
oldchapyeah I know21:48
DarthFrogIt is only a matter of personal choice which you use, KDE or GNOME.21:49
oldchapso from 9.10 to 10.04 stable21:49
yofeloldchap: odd error, sure your network connection works fine?21:49
oldchapno problem with that21:49
hobe__ok if i whant use another one can i have my Progr everything at the OLD21:49
hobe__???21:49
sithlord48hobe__: yes,21:49
hobe__ok for example21:49
oldchapthere has been reported issues with that but i have had no success21:49
hobe__I use now SUSE21:49
hobe__it WORKS21:49
hobe__i dont lose my HArddrive Progr21:50
oldchapi've upgraded successfully my laptop but desktop fails21:50
Sentyneloldchap: just a thought, try opening the software sources configuration and changing the "download from" option21:50
sithlord48what do u want to do hobe__?21:50
oldchapi removed all the obsolete and local packages21:50
hobe__i tell you21:50
oldchapbut that didn't help21:51
hobe__I use 20years Win but now i use for 2 Month Ubuntu21:51
hobe__Why i tell you21:51
hobe__I good a Sager Nootebock from USA21:51
hobe__it was an RAID on Board21:52
hobe__NOthing install on it21:52
hobe__Ubuntu WORKS21:52
yofelso what's your problem?21:52
hobe__and Know i use it very HAPPY21:52
sithlord48hobe__:  you want to try kubuntu ?21:53
oldchapyofel: i got the warning: failed to read mirror file and the upgrade stops21:53
hobe__I read know of many Linux Versions21:53
hobe__example Kubuntu21:53
hobe__SUSE21:53
oldchapyofel: that comes after updating repository information21:53
hobe__but have know these working21:53
yofeloldchap: that was for hobe__ but anyway, did you try Sentynels idea?21:54
sithlord48well you don't have to install kubuntu from the cd if you have ubuntu installed.21:54
hobe__update ?? it works ??21:54
yofeloldchap: and how did you try to upgrade? do-release-upgrade?21:54
hobe__ok i understand21:54
oldchapyofel: yep21:54
sithlord48yofel:  no i didn't if i can get my netbook up  i can try it , currenty i have grub broken..21:54
hobe__and what is this NAME MAverik or something ??21:55
sithlord48hobe__:  if you want to try kubuntu . you can install the kubuntu-desktop package,21:55
yofelsithlord48: hm?21:55
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yofelhobe__: that's the name of the release 'Kubuntu Maverick Meerkat 10.10'21:55
hobe__ok Ubuntusoftwarecenter ?21:55
sithlord48hobe__:  if you want to upgrade to maverick from lucid , you can do so off the internet. bewarned these kinds of upgrades are not 100% perfect21:55
yofelhobe__: that's for Ubuntu, we use kpackagekit21:56
mrneeghello, i have always been a super fan of kubuntu, but im wondering how to fix the upside down webcam image? ;-)21:56
hobe__tray these release upgrade21:56
sithlord48hobe__:  there is a chance you can break the system when you do so , if you are ok w/ that possibility then go for the release upgrade21:56
mrneegim using a UVC? cam in a asus laptop. its upside down, for cheese i can flip it, but for skype not21:56
oldchapsentynel: what do you mean with download option, different mirror site?21:56
Sentyneloldchap: yeah21:56
hobe__oh ok now another thing , he talk about Cam it dont found on my Sager icl Ubuntu21:56
GodFingerhmm21:56
sithlord48yofel:  my netbook w/ the mostly broken kde has not grub atm to try Sentynel suggestion21:56
hobe__someone an Idee21:57
yofelsithlord48: his suggestion was for oldchap, not you21:57
sithlord48hobe__:  i don't understand what your asking21:57
sithlord48yofel: ah .see i mised a lot :P21:57
oldchapsentynel: aptitude update, and aptitude safe-upgrade works fine with current mirror21:57
Sentyneloldchap: doesn't necessarily mean that mirror has files for 10.04 though21:57
hobe__Kubuntu is an Upgrade ?? i can use it on Ubuntu install21:58
sithlord48hobe__:  NO. kubuntu is not an upgrade of ubuntu21:58
sithlord48hobe__:  kubuntu uses a differnet desktop interface called "kde"21:58
hobe__ok what is it very diverent or something??21:58
hobe__KDE ??21:58
sithlord48hobe__:  it has its own programs for desktop tasks21:58
macoyes21:59
hobe__ok gread21:59
sithlord48hobe__:  you can have both Gnome (what ubuntu uses) and Kde (what kubuntu uses) at the same time21:59
hobe__wow suck good21:59
hobe__i can try own my Desk21:59
hobe__thats very very good21:59
sithlord48hobe__: if you want to try the kde you can do so by installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package21:59
GodFingerany suggestion for ICQ and MSN messenger for kubuntu other than Kopete?21:59
hobe__????OKOKOK21:59
sithlord48hobe__:  to use kde after install you log out and from the sessions menu select kde (you will see this menu on the log in scree)22:00
sithlord48screen*)22:00
oldchapsentynel: no success with different mirror22:00
hobe__I can use than MSN ???22:00
oldchapsentynel: the same error22:00
sithlord48hobe__:  you can use msn w/ kopete (kde default) or pidgin or about 100 different im clients22:00
hobe__slow slow please i have no idea22:00
Sentyneloldchap: weird... you could try downloading the 10.04 alternate cd and using that as the source for the upgrade22:01
GodFingeryes but what about ICQ?22:01
hobe__a lidle i understand know22:01
sithlord48hobe__:  there are many progams to use msn , and yes you can use gnome programs in kde and kde programs in gnome22:01
oldchapsentynel: i found discussion wiht same problem in net but no clear answer how to solve it22:02
sithlord48and i like this new splash screen for natty :D22:02
oldchapsentynel: removing all the 3rd party packages was the only common hint and I've done that22:02
yofelsithlord48: you mean the login splash background?22:02
hobe__sorry again i dont whant to check your TIME but what do the People here ?22:03
sithlord48yofel:  the splash and netbook background22:03
yofelsithlord48: ah, that should become the new kdm theme too I think (called horos)22:03
sithlord48yofel:  i like it , the old one was to bright22:03
oldchapsentynel: what happens if i just replace karmic with lucid in sources.list and do apt-get update and dist-upgrade22:04
Sentyneloldchap: that's very very not recommended as an update method22:04
sithlord48the best part about this netbook is i have opendrivers for everthing so it all just works :D22:04
oldchapyeah I know22:04
macooldchap: thats not really the recommended way22:04
macooldchap: if you want to do online upgrade, use "sudo do-release-upgrade" -- it has extra hints to make sure obsolete packages and conflicts dont break things22:04
oldchapmaco: it won't work, i got warning: failed to read mirror file22:05
sithlord48hobe__:  you got that all ?22:05
oldchapmaco: i've tried to solve that last four hours22:05
macooldchap: are you fully up to date on your current version?22:06
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oldchapmaco: i've done several time aptitude update and safe-upgrade22:06
yofeloldchap: do full-upgrade too22:07
macowhat about full-upgrade?22:07
oldchapyofel: done that too22:08
sithlord48i see what you mean about kpackagekit sucking in this natty disk.. it just crashed the installer :(22:08
yofelsithlord48: it's fixed in kpackagekit, but we don't have the new version yet22:10
sithlord48yofel: will i be able to install ?22:10
yofelusing muon or apt-get sure22:10
hobe__mom please22:11
sithlord48yofel: i mean natty will i be able to install22:11
yofelsithlord48: or do you mean the system installer?22:11
yofelah..22:11
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yofelhm, I know the others reported issues in +1, but try it - no guarantee22:11
sithlord48yofel: as far as i care k packagekit needs to do two things, install the system and install muon..22:11
sithlord48askually just the system i can do everything else w/ apt-get :P22:12
yofelsithlord48: no, install system is ubiquitys job (live disk)22:12
yofel!info ubiquity22:12
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.8 (maverick), package size 4041 kB, installed size 14260 kB22:12
sithlord48yofel:  oh yea... lol22:12
genii-aroundI had the installer chunk out on me today with a bunch of python errors22:13
sithlord48yup22:14
sithlord48python errors..., after setting time zone..22:14
sithlord48and it seams to be formating my hd in the background still..22:14
yofelwell, could be that it's still installing, just the UI crashed (not sure how ubi works)22:15
genii-aroundsithlord48: I let it get to where it was at something like 90% on the bar above and then it stalled there. My box actually booted but only to CLI and with odd hostname like Korak22:15
sithlord48genii-around:  i think i could live w/ that.. but yea it needs the input to set the system up..22:16
yofelyeah, it now suggests a default hostname which looked rather odd here22:16
genii-aroundAlso it had no user with 1001 uid, had to boot to single-user and make one22:16
genii-around( and also add it to the groups it should be in)22:16
sithlord48genii-around:  im not susprised at all since you never got to put in a user name..22:17
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sithlord48ok then i guess im install maverick..22:20
oldchapi'm getting tired with (k)ubuntu, dvb-c works perfectyly with 7.04, epg stopped working with 8.04, with 9.10 dvb is not working at all22:20
sithlord48can i cheat and install natty server version then just kubuntu-desktop?22:21
geneirosHi everyone22:24
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geneirosCan anyone help me...i installed today kubuntu 10.10 and if i try to update to kde 4.5.4 it gives me a huge amount of dependencies error...22:27
geneirossome packages are 4.5.5 and others are 4.5.422:27
sithlord48yes it does22:28
geneiroshow can i update?22:28
epGot my hp printer working via their drivers.  It prints the HP test page and also a Pdf file I tested.  Any idea why it won't print a simple text file opened with kate?  It prints some faded squiggly lines instead of text.22:28
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valoriegeneiros: that sounds like a packaging mixup22:31
valorieplease stop by #kubuntu-devel and talk about your experience22:31
valorieperhaps they can help you sort it out22:31
sithlord48geneiros: i have no idea... im having a simalar issue.22:31
geneirosit started today because yesterday it updated well...22:32
epah it looks like the kate print dialog gives a listing the same printer with different suffixes  hp_modelxxx_01  and hp_modelxxx02 etc...  obviously some don't work22:34
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samuel_hey guys, just having a little problem , my computer was suspended to ram while amarok was doing the extra packages download, and everything froze, so i restarted my computer, and now i cant use the package manager to install anything anymore as it is coming up with a "waiting for package lock". any suggestions ?22:43
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Sentynelsamuel_: what happens if you open konsole and do sudo dpkg --configure --pending22:46
kaddihow do I get thunderbird to open links in firefox? Firefox is set as default browser and I have added network.protocol-handler.app.http pointing to /usr/bin/firefox in the options22:47
samuel_Sentynel: well now its downloading the rest :P22:47
yofelkaddi: open thunderbird settings -> attachments and edit settings for http and https22:49
kaddiyofel: there's no entry for http or https, how can I create one?22:50
yofelhm, should be created when you open the first link of that type22:51
kaddiyofel: it's not getting created just tried again22:53
epI cant seem to fix my printing problem.   Files (txt) I open with kate will not print correctly but if I open them with openoffice, they print just fine.  Also other stuff prints fine.  My only problem is with kate.22:53
yofelI don't know how then :/22:53
m0rfeo_ciao22:55
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hondoHey all -- Can anyone tell me how to "right justify" the content of a panel in Kubuntu 10.10?23:14
sithlord48hondo:  add a spacer to the left?23:17
sithlord48hondo: click the cashe and choose more options if your talkig about the whole panel23:18
kaddifixed it with: sudo update-alternatives --verbose --config x-www-browser23:19
hondosithlord48: If I place one single Icon onto the panel it will be placed all the way to the left. This seems odd (and new) to me.23:21
hondoI added a new panel today23:22
sithlord48you in that case you might want to use a spacer on the panel and be sure to drop stuff on the right side of it23:22
hondosithlord48: Is this new?23:22
sithlord48no click the cashew and choose add spacer.. then you can mouse over it to drag it around23:23
sithlord48you will need to click and hold to drag...23:23
ecinxis there any reason a keyboard shortcut won't work but a menu item might?23:24
Sentynelecinx: conflict on that key binding, or otherwise something else capturing it?23:24
sithlord48ecinx:  example23:24
hondosithlord48: I guess I never noticed this before because I had so many Icons in the panel.23:24
ecinxsithlord48: abreviation complete in kile23:24
ecinxi have autokey on, is that a problem?23:25
sithlord48ecinx: ? never used it..23:25
ecinxyes that was the problem i guess23:26
ecinxit worked when i exit auto key23:26
ecinxwell, it worked once, that's it23:27
ecinxdoesn't work anymroe23:28
ecinxi need an autocorrrect or snippets program23:29
cba123For some reason, Dolphin seems to have crashed on me.  This has happened a few times before, and I can only seem to fix it with a full reboot.  Any ideas as to how I could fic this without having to reboot?23:31
cba123fix*23:31
yofelfirst we would need the backtrace of the crash so we know where it crashes23:32
cba123yofel, Where would I get that?23:33
Sentynelcba123: do you get a crash report box pop up when it crashes? if so, it's on the developer information tab23:33
yofelwhen the crash notification comes up go to 'developer information' and let it retrace it there23:34
cba123Oh, ok, I did that once, I'll have to remember next time then.23:34
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