[08:30] Hello [15:44] hello i am having some network problem can anyone help me out. [18:57] charlie-tca: if I can get you a copy of the proposed new UW wiki theme can you look at it and let us know what needs to be fixed? ( us = AlanBell mostly) [18:57] AlanBell: do you have a link somewhere to the new UW theme? [19:01] hajour: I'm really sorry, but I think you messaged me like a week ago and I just completely forgot to respond [19:05] Pendulum: yes, I can take a look [19:05] charlie-tca: okay, hopefully Alan will have a link soonish as the link pleia2 had doesn't seem to be working anymore [19:06] Okay, no problem [19:16] Cool... you guys have a whole new wiki theme? [19:16] I had someone pickup my bug about the wiki just recently... [19:17] cprofitt: there's been an UW-specific theme in the works for the UW wiki (which is not the same as the Ubuntu wiki) [19:17] UW = Ubuntu Women [19:18] oh... [19:18] I thought perhaps it was part of the ubuntu wiki [19:18] does canonical maintain the server or do you guys have control of it? [19:19] OTOH, it has to get approved by IS so maybe if we can make it accessible, we can get it approved for the main wiki too [19:24] so Canonical hosts... [19:24] cool... [19:24] yes [19:24] if they fix the theme for the main site to honor moin moin code I will be happy [19:25] right now it doesn't honor center, left, right alignment in tables [19:29] o/ [19:30] cprofitt: got a bug number? [19:30] I do at home AlanBell [19:30] a developer picked up the bug for me... [19:30] let me check LP... it should be listed there too [19:30] I have been submitting fixes to the main wiki theme, I have a bunch of outstanding merge requests that have been approved and not merged [19:30] AlanBell: do you have a link for where charlie-tca could test the UW wiki theme? [19:31] I will fire it up on my laptop and post a link [19:31] Pendulum: can you delete me from the wordpress blog and re-add me please [19:31] AlanBell: yep, I'll see if I can [19:31] great [19:32] AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-isd-web/+bug/657472 [19:32] Launchpad bug 657472 in canonical-isd-web "Alignment being ignored in the new wiki theme (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:33] AlanBell: see if it works now [19:34] charlie-tca: what was the name of the wordpress theme you thought was probably accessible? [19:36] AlanBell: so that worked? [19:37] yes [19:37] I have to go eat and stuff now, will be back in an hour or two [19:37] no worries. I'm looking at themes :) [19:39] Pendulum: can't remember now. I will have to go searching for it [19:39] * charlie-tca is braindead today [19:39] charlie-tca: can you look at the current theme and tell me what you think? (it's the default. I'm also going to play with some others) [19:40] yup; URL again? [19:40] http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/ [19:40] really brain dead today... can't remember hardly anything today [19:40] no worries [19:40] I know what brain fog is like :) [19:41] Um, the non-selected item is dark grey on black, making it hard to see [19:42] *nods* [19:44] the light-gray on white is not bad, though, when looking at "About" [19:44] ok [19:44] Text typed in the boxes is easy to read, too. [19:45] Unfortunately, if you can't see the menu well, the rest won't matter [19:45] I'm going to try another theme (one with non-fixed width) and then maybe see about playing around with colours because I think I can change those (or get Alan to help me) [19:45] the top is busy, but that can be easily not seen [19:46] try refreshing. what do you think of this one? [19:46] I can easily chance colours on it [19:46] *change [19:46] (easier than on the first one) [19:47] that is much better [19:47] okay, I like it better too :) [19:47] That's similar to the one I am looking for [19:48] that one is called Garland [19:48] but, it will take me a while to find that name [19:48] I like Garland then [19:48] I'm correct that flexible width is better than fixed for anyone who blows up the type size, right? [19:48] and the fact that it is not fixed width makes a difference for those trying to use it full screen [19:49] yeah [19:49] Even when I grow the text big, I can see see the whole page [19:49] *nods* [19:50] is blue a good colour for you? [19:50] yes, [19:50] blue is great [19:50] Might have hajour take a look at it, because she loses some color I see [19:50] what if I make the general text to actual black, would that be better? [19:51] Always [19:51] Ideal colors are yellow on red or black on white or white on black [19:51] *nods* [19:51] and yes, that is a true yellow on red, not faded or tinted yellow [19:52] You got it! that is much better, just don't know it until you see it [19:53] try refreshing again, I just made the links darker too [19:54] hm, not sure I don't want the links lighter again. They tend to blend into the text now at times [19:54] okay [19:54] I can restore that [19:54] I wasn't sure if they were too light originally [19:54] just let me finish adding the about page and I'll return them :) [19:55] we don't like that color for links. Either got to be lighter or a different color to show up [19:59] charlie-tca: is this better? [19:59] Yes, for these eyes it sure is. [20:00] okay [20:00] w00t! bonus - can read the text and find the links - what a deal [20:01] hajour: when you get a chance can you look at http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/ and let us know how the theme works for you in terms of accessibility? (you can ignore most of the content as that will change once we know the theme is good!) [20:01] okay, the About page has been updated with a link to the wiki [20:02] once we know the theme is definitely good, I'll add it to planet and make a first real post :) [20:02] can y'all tell I'm feeling better than I have in a month? ;) [20:04] do we have a team symbol? [20:04] Pendulum: glad to hear you are feeling somewhat better! It does show, you know [20:04] err... or whatever the word is that I'm looking for and can't remember... [20:05] (I'm just wondering if there's a graphic I can use for when I put stuff on planet) [20:06] I have one we used for the wiki (orange cirlce with wheelchair) that we can have blown up if we want to. We can also change the color if needed [20:08] *nods* [20:08] is there somewhere I can grab it from or can you e-mail it to me or something? [20:11] grab it here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/HeaderMain?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=accessibility.png [20:11] That's wrong [20:12] Try again - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/HeaderMain?action=AttachFile [20:12] You want to go to the accessibilityteam.png , get, save as... [20:13] well, right click get and click save as [20:16] I want a nap. Sadly my father is watching train DVDs so no chance of that anytime soon :-/ [21:32] charlie-tca: I have the svg of that I think [21:33] or maybe not [21:33] bigger png though http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/accessibilityteam8.png [23:24] I appear to have deleted my local moin setup :( [23:24] the theme code is here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-women/ubuntu-women.org/mointheme [23:24] will have a go at putting it back together over the weekend [23:27] I will try to grab it and have a look