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Red-Ravenwasnt being rude. hard to tell tone of voice ina chat i guess. actually thats pretty awesome.you'll have to send me the script some time. anyways, gtg. cya tommorow!00:00
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HoboSteauxthis is going to sound odd BUT03:23
HoboSteauxim trying to get usage statics for CPU on an openvpn server while gettng speed stats from two clients03:23
HoboSteauxdoes anyone know of a tool/collection of tools for this?03:24
stlsaintHoboSteaux: search in synaptic package manager03:27
stlsaintthere are plenty of stat trackers there03:27
HoboSteauxty03:28
JackyAlcineGuys, I have a question regarding Boolean algerba and C++04:59
MrAnthropeThis is really frustrating. I can't tell if my computer is just a piece or if this game is breaking.05:42
MrAnthropeThis game has been running fine for like 3 weeks. Suddenly input is sketchy (WASD movement) and it's taking up all my CPU/ram.05:43
MrAnthropeI tweaked some WINE settings and it was running 'normally' for like 10 minutes and then started taking 100% of my system resources again.05:43
* MrAnthrope throws his computer out a window.05:44
holsteinhmmm05:45
holsteinif you remember how you configured the game05:45
holsteinmaybe you could move the .wine dir05:45
holsteinand let wine make a fresh one05:46
holsteinand start over05:46
MrAnthropeI should note that I installed a newer wine version about halfway through those 3 weeks when it was working but it didn't seem to change any performance until ... yesterday maybe.05:46
holsteinstep it back down05:47
MrAnthropeFor a while I had it in its own .wine folder but I moved it back to the main .wine folder when I tested to make sure this newer version of wine wasn't going to completely bork my install.05:47
JackyAlcineWhat game is it?05:52
MrAnthropeDungeons & Dragons Online.05:52
JackyAlcineAnd I recommended backing up, wiping and starting from an older version of Wine.05:53
MrAnthropeI'm going to blame this on Play On Linux and uninstall it. Even though I installed it a while ago.05:54
MrAnthropewell that was stupid. I did sudo apt-get remove playonlinux and there is still a .playonlinux folder in my home folder.06:01
JackyAlcineTry apt-get purge06:01
MrAnthropeAlright, so how do I go about changing my wine version?06:02
MrAnthropeI've renamed my .wine folder ".wine-bak"06:04
Cheri703so I formatted an ipod and it doesn't show up now :(06:05
Cheri703and I don't know why or how to find it :(06:06
MrAnthropelol I didn't know Wine stood for Wine Is Not an Emulator.06:23
MrAnthropeLinux likes their recursive acronyms...06:24
JackyAlcinelol, yupp :D06:25
Cheri703well, it started with gnu, not linux06:26
Cheri703gnu = gnu's not unix06:26
MrAnthropeif I go into synaptic and uncheck all references to wine that'll uninstall it right?06:29
MrAnthropewell I guess not. Now my menu is all jank.06:32
MrAnthropewhat does sudo apt-get install -f do?06:38
MrAnthropeAfter you install a software source, how do you see the software that source offers?07:29
MrAnthropeor add a software source, whatever.07:29
MrAnthropeah I see in synaptic now. Origin.07:30
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yulerwhat tools can I use to determine GUI responsiveness?  My system seems to drag.   I noticed the CPU usage in system monitor cranks up when viewing, and xorg shows a cyclical spikes.08:32
yulersorry, xload, not xorg08:38
hobgoblinJackyAlcine: ping10:20
JackyAlcineHey hobgoblin.10:21
ChrisDruifHai y'all10:21
hobgoblinJackyAlcine: you got a mo10:21
JackyAlcinemo?10:21
hobgoblinment :)10:21
JackyAlcineLol, I just didn't want you to give up on that patch idea.10:22
JackyAlcineI'll try (with some others) to address.10:22
hobgoblinJackyAlcine: ty10:26
JackyAlcineNo problem.10:27
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ShootEmUpHello Everyone!13:25
ChrisDruifHai ShootEmUp :)13:26
ShootEmUphi there ChrisDruif!13:26
ChrisDruifHow's it going?13:26
ShootEmUppretty good, except pidgin broke on me when trying to update :(13:27
ChrisDruifOw...not for me :)13:28
ShootEmUpprobably because I was using their PPA13:28
ChrisDruifI am too :)13:29
ShootEmUpmaybe because I'm using facebook chat plugin?13:29
JackyAlcineShootEmUp: might be.13:30
ShootEmUpyou never know13:31
ShootEmUpback13:37
ShootEmUphad to register my Nickname, so no one can steal it13:37
ChrisDruifI wouldn't wanna even try :P13:48
ShootEmUpHas anyone seen Red-raven, Red_, or Black lately?13:48
doezDoes anyone have horizontal scrolling in i.e firefox enabled somehow? I'm running 10.10 and are having problems with the scroll button.13:49
ChrisDruifdoez: Touchpad?13:52
doezChrisDruif: No, I'm using a Mx518.13:53
ChrisDruifDid you enable vertical scrolling @ the mouse settings doez?13:54
doezThat's not an option in the mouse settings.13:55
ChrisDruifNo? That might be a problem...13:55
doezChrisDruid: I've even tried downloading another app that has Wheel Emulation without luck13:56
doezAll I see is what happens when i press the left and right click in the regular mouse settings.13:56
doezI actually have the option Vertical and Horizontal scrolling in that other app enabled, but it doesnt work13:56
ChrisDruifSo @ System>Preferences>Mouse and the tab Touchpad you can't set vertical scrolling?13:57
doezI have "General" and "Help" as the tabs there.13:58
doezSo no, there's no vertical scrolling there.13:58
ChrisDruifNot even Accessibility tab? =-O13:58
doezNo.13:59
doezThe mouse is hooked up against my keyboard, might that be the problem?13:59
doezBut the USB-extender inside my keyboard has its own usb-cable at the end.14:00
ShootEmUp/me welcomes all ubuntu users!14:03
ChrisDruifCould you pitch in ShootEmUp? See doez's question...14:04
doezI'd appreciate it.14:05
ChrisDruifSo your mouse settings screen doesn't look like this? http://www.linuxnov.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screenshot-Mouse-Preferences.png14:05
doezNo. How can I screenshot a specific window?14:06
ChrisDruifDefault Alt+PrtSc afaik...14:06
jacob_what the crap....14:06
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doezWhere does the screenshot land?14:07
ChrisDruifYou can specify right? Otherwise it default to Desktop I believe...14:07
ChrisDruifOr you clipboard if it's not there...14:07
ChrisDruifHow did you come to 10.10...upgrade from 10.04 or fresh install?14:07
jacob__this is shootemup... I think the sever has not disconnected shootemup yet14:08
jacob__nope14:08
jacob__gotta wait then14:08
hobgoblinjacob__: try /ghost username password14:08
doezI did a fresh install14:09
ChrisDruifWb doez...14:09
ChrisDruifAlright...14:09
doezI screwed up something14:09
doezTrying to prtscr14:09
ShootEmUpback14:10
ChrisDruifwb Jacob :)14:10
doezBut no, I dont have that option.14:10
ChrisDruifShootEmUp: Do you think he could solve his problem by installing the laptop tools?14:13
doezhttp://img831.imageshack.us/f/skrmbildb.png/14:13
ShootEmUpcould help14:13
doezWhat's the name of the laptop tools?14:14
ChrisDruifdoez: Are you Swedish?14:14
doezOh yeah sorry.14:15
ChrisDruifJust curious :P14:15
doezBut as you can see i only have 2 tabs.14:15
ShootEmUpdoez, I can't sideways scroll with mousewheel, so you might not be able to14:15
doezoh, that's kind of what i want :(14:15
ShootEmUpI can under windows, but not ubuntu14:15
doezSame here.14:15
ChrisDruifDid either of you file a bug for that?14:16
ShootEmUpI think it goes down as a ubuntu bug, and no14:16
doezI don't even know how to do that.14:16
ChrisDruifCould either try to install mousetweaks?14:17
doezOn it.14:17
ChrisDruifEasily found in synaptic...prolly also in USC14:17
ShootEmUpI'll try14:17
doezI already have that app.14:18
ShootEmUpalready installed14:18
ChrisDruifI don't know what installed by default on desktops (presuming you both are on desktops rather then laptops)14:19
doezDesktop here.14:19
ShootEmUpdesktop here14:19
doezThe one I gave you a link for is the only one pre-installed14:19
ShootEmUpdoez, are you using a mouse or a touchpad?14:23
ChrisDruifMX51814:23
ChrisDruifThrust if I remember correctly :P14:24
ShootEmUphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975971 this forum post might help14:25
ShootEmUphttp://www.lomoco.org/ or this14:26
doezThanks! I'll try that14:26
doezShootEmUp: Have you tried with the xbindkeys yet? I'm stuck wondering where I should place the xbindkeysrc file14:39
doezDoh.14:40
sushilplz help, sound quality is very poor in my dell inspiron 144014:58
sushilhelp15:01
sushilhow to partition hard disk in ubuntu??15:01
ChrisDruifsushil: partitioning inside an installed ubuntu?15:02
sushilyes15:02
sushilcan you tell me what is lost+found folder is about??15:03
ChrisDruifYou need to install GParted...15:03
ChrisDruifI think the lost+found folder is the folder in which the write actions are stored....for when your computer suddenly powers off or something...15:04
ChrisDruifBut that I don't know...it's part of the EXT4 filesystem...15:04
ChrisDruifLike I said, it's part of the EXT4 filesystem...if you remove it, EXT4 will replace it...15:05
sushilcan you tell me how to know my filesystems15:05
ChrisDruifYou mean how I can identify which fs you're using?15:06
sushilhow to know which filesystem is the partition15:07
sushil?15:07
ChrisDruifYou can find that on multiple ways...the easiest is in system monitor...15:07
ChrisDruifSystem>Administration>System Monitor...15:08
ChrisDruifAnd then the file systems tab15:08
sushilwhat are /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda6 ??15:09
sushilthe file systems are ext4 and vfat... which one is best for linux??15:10
ChrisDruifext4 I would say...you can read in detail about it here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/15:11
sushilwhy do i need to mount the hard disk partition every time i start the computer.... is there any other way??15:12
ChrisDruifWhat hard disk partition?15:12
sushilvfat15:13
ChrisDruifMaybe you need to mount it because it is vfat...15:15
ChrisDruifAre you dual-booting?15:16
sushilif i format it to ext4, will the problem be solved??15:16
ChrisDruifProbably, but it will delete all content on it...15:17
sushilno..... i only installed ubuntu 10.04 lts15:17
Bipul`can any one look at my problem why i am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/551504/15:17
Daniel0108Bipul`: That's because the package is not available ;)15:18
Daniel0108have you added the ppa?15:18
ChrisDruifsushil: With all default settings? "Use whole disk" or something like that?15:18
ChrisDruifBipul`: What Daniel0108 said...15:18
Daniel0108ChrisDruif: Lol ;)15:19
sushilUse whole disk ?? where is this??15:19
ChrisDruifWith the installation of 10.0415:20
ChrisDruifBipul`: Or did you mean this package: libgtkhtml-editor-dev15:20
Daniel0108sushil: Use the entire disk ;)15:20
Daniel0108sushil: This is the option you get when installing Ubuntu :)15:20
Bipul`well i am using ubuntu 10.1015:21
Bipul`so is it a bug?15:21
JoeMaverickSettBipul`: apt-cache search libgtkhtml to see what libgtkhtml packages you have.15:21
Daniel0108sushil: http://tinyurl.com/2wxz6mf15:21
sushilafter the installation.... is there any way out??15:21
ChrisDruifDaniel0108: He's got a partition which doesn't auto-mount...some vfat partition...15:21
Daniel0108sushil: what do you mean by: any way out? after the installation you have to restart your computer :P15:21
Daniel0108ChrisDruif: Oh, okay ;) I didn't read the entire text :P sorry ;)15:22
ChrisDruifI was wondering why that vfat partition was on it...15:22
ChrisDruifThat's why I asked if he "Used the entire disk"15:22
sushilis there any options after the installation of ubuntu??15:24
ChrisDruifWhat is on that partition sushil?15:25
sushilempty15:29
ChrisDruifHow many other partitions are on it?15:29
sushilthere is one primary partition having format ext4 and other two partitions having format vfat15:31
ChrisDruifSo one of the vfat's does get auto-mounted?15:32
sushilboth vfat need to be auto mounted in each start15:33
ChrisDruifBut if neither has addition value, then I would suggest to just remove it GParted and expand the remaining ext4 partition...15:35
Bipul`yes that package is not available in ubuntu 10.1015:35
Bipul`i think i need to build from source15:36
aveilleuxBipul`: Gparted is in Maverick.15:37
ChrisDruifAlso in 10.04 afaik...15:37
aveilleuxBipul`: There are no caps in package names. Would that be it?15:38
ChrisDruifOw...should be "with gparted"15:38
Bipul`well i have to use any higher version, but i have one question ,i am using this libgtkhtml in order to compile gyachi client  , if i use any higer version of libgtkhtml will it work ?15:38
aveilleuxBipul`: Generally yes15:38
Bipul`aveilleux,  sory dont get you15:38
Bipul`ok then let me use this15:38
ChrisDruifYou need to install it from synaptic or software center15:38
aveilleuxChrisDruif, Bipul`: Or using aptitude, or apt-get...15:39
ChrisDruifIndeed aveilleux ;)15:39
Bipul`ok thanks guys15:40
ChrisDruifWhen you use apt-get or aptitude you can search with "apt-cache search gparted" for instance15:40
aveilleuxOr just use aptitude's interactive mode15:40
ChrisDruif-i ?15:41
aveilleuxChrisDruif: No, just sudo aptitude.15:41
aveilleuxChrisDruif: Without a command or package to install15:42
ChrisDruifLike sudo aptitude gparted?15:42
Cheri703is there any recourse for "unable to delete file" ?15:51
Cheri703as in: it won't go away, how do I make it go away?15:51
holsteinCheri703: what file?15:52
holsteinyou can sudo rm it15:53
Cheri703a few things already in the trash...15:53
holsteinBUT usually theres a reason why you cant15:53
Cheri703ah, good idea15:53
wahamleri just burned a cd image of ubuntu 10.10.  i selected the trial mode.  i walked away for a few minutes and the maching went into screensaver mode and is asking for a user id and password.  how do i get back in?16:25
duanedesign_wahamler: I cant remember the username and password,i am looking16:25
duanedesign_wahamler: it is like   username:ubuntu  pass:ubuntu16:25
wahamleri have another question as well.  my machine has a pcmcia wireless network card.  when i boot from the cd image the card does not power up.  how can i enable so i can connect to internet?16:26
holsteinwahamler: are you booted into ubuntu live now?16:28
wahamlernot at the moment. the machine is rebooting.  it unfortunately takes a while.16:29
holsteinwhile you're waiting16:30
holsteingoogle the card if you want16:31
holsteinubuntu 10.10 dlink dwl-64616:31
holsteinor whatever...16:31
wahamlerwill do16:31
duanedesign_wahamler: even if you walk away while installing, it should not install until you enter a username and password16:32
wahamleri have not installed.  i ran the trial option16:32
duanedesign_wahamler: But I had a Ylmf disk that asked me for a username and password, but that was for the Live CD16:33
duanedesign_wahamler: aha16:33
duanedesign_wahamler: ok16:33
duanedesign_wahamler: try Ubuntu for username and a blank password16:34
wahamlerok16:35
duanedesign_wahamler: if that does not work I also dug this up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8548884&postcount=916:39
kristian-aalborghi17:09
Daniel0108hi17:15
Bipul`hellow i am tring to search with this command bipul@bipul-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search libgtkhtml2-dev18:11
Bipul`but nuthing happens18:12
Daniel0108try to install libgtkhtml-editor-dev :D18:13
Daniel0108or libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:13
Bipul`is it in 10.10 repositories18:13
Daniel0108yeah18:13
Daniel0108both are :)18:13
Daniel0108sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml-editor-dev libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:14
Daniel0108should fix your problem :P18:14
Bipul`ok18:14
Bipul`Daniel0108,  thanks18:14
Daniel0108Bipul`: No problem ;)18:14
Daniel0108Bipul`: Why the ` in your name? It would be easier if you change it to Bipul :PP18:15
Bipul`well i have given an option to any one have this nick Bipul18:15
Bipul`but not this Bipul`  :p18:15
Daniel0108have you tried /nick Bipul ?18:16
johnny77Does anyone know how to change the default browser in LXDE? Firefox says it's the default, Chrome doesn't know, but when I click on a link it opens Chrome.18:16
Daniel0108yeah you can change it ;)18:16
Daniel0108johnny77: ^18:16
Bipul`Nops18:16
johnny77In preferred Applications it tells me Firefox is default.18:17
johnny77how do I change it?18:17
Daniel0108johnny77: In chrome go to Preferences and click on Make Chrome/Chromium my default browser :D18:17
johnny77I want Firefox to be my default browser.18:18
Daniel0108Bipul`: Does it work now?18:18
Daniel0108oh18:18
Bipul`yes18:18
Bipul`Daniel0108,  i am installing both of them editor-dev and 3.14-dev18:19
Bipul`let see will it support my gyachi client or not18:19
Daniel0108johnny77: go to preferences (edit->Preferences), then to advanced. Open the General tab and click Check now.18:19
Daniel0108johhny77: Now press yes and you're finished ;)18:20
JoeMaverickSettjohnny77: on firefox try, Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General Tab > System default category18:20
Bipul`libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:22
Bipul`?18:22
Daniel0108yes18:22
Bipul`bipul@bipul-desktop:~$ <Daniel0108> or libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:22
Bipul`bash: Daniel0108: No such file or directory18:22
Daniel0108lol18:22
Daniel0108you entered my name :P18:22
Bipul`Can you tell me what's goin on18:22
JoeMaverickSettBipul`: only libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:22
Daniel0108Bipul`: open a terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml3.14-dev18:23
Bipul`oh my sory i can see that :p blunder mistake18:23
Daniel0108no problem ;)18:23
johnny77Thank you.18:28
Bipul`ok i have one more problem18:30
Bipul`w32codecs18:30
Bipul`how can i install it18:30
hobgoblinBipul`: sudo apt-get install w32codecs - or search in synaptic or software centre for it - if you've not got it then you'll need to set up the medibuntu repos18:35
hobgoblinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu18:36
Bipul`hobgoblin,  i did that command in terminal and it is not there in 10.1018:36
Bipul`and about synapatic  there also not18:36
hobgoblinyes it is18:36
hobgoblindid you set up the medibuntu repos?18:37
Bipul`whats that ?18:37
Bipul`nops i have not set up18:38
Bipul`thanks18:38
hobgoblink - link above ^^18:38
hobgoblinhttp://ubft.pastebin.com/u65E4J0A as you can see  - it needs the medibuntu repos18:38
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Bipul`well i have to search this file19:04
Bipul`tspcodec19:04
Bipul`how shud i search19:04
Daniel0108Bipul`: go to launchpad.com and search for it ;)19:06
Bipul`Daniel0108,  is there any relation between w32codecs and tspcodec19:08
Daniel0108Bipul`: haha, sorry I can't answer you that :P I'm not a pro at such things but w32 sounds like win32 ;)19:09
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Bipul`http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ <-- can i use this method to install w32codec in my ubuntu 10.1019:42
YorvykBipul`, go to http://medibuntu.org/ and follow the instructions there.19:45
Bipul`yes i did that Yorvyk19:45
Bipul`but i am fail to compile gyachi as it required w32codecs19:46
YorvykBipul`, in a terminal, what does 'apt-cache policy w32codecs' give you19:49
Bipul`http://paste.ubuntu.com/551594/19:51
gclericor apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras19:52
YorvykBipul`, that means they are installed19:54
Bipul`Yorvyk,  tspcodecs? come inside w32codecs19:54
YorvykBipul`, not that I'm aware of19:55
Bipul`beacuse it's missing19:55
aveilleuxHello. Not too sure if this is possible, but can you make the user list and topic bar (on the right and top of the window, respectively) have transparent backgrounds like the channel view in Xchat? I'm using 2.8.8. I'll xpost this to #xchat if no one knows here, just figured I'd ask.21:08
Red-Ravenhey.21:09
Daniel0108hi21:19
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ShootEmUphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166215322:46
ShootEmUpRed-Raven!22:53
ShootEmUpRed-Raven!Red-Raven!Red-Raven!22:53
Red-RavenShootemup!22:53
ShootEmUpyou are alive...22:54
ShootEmUpI thought you died22:54
Red-Ravensorry. for some reason the beep on highlighted text setting in Xchat doesn't work.22:54
ShootEmUpso how is ubuntu doing for you? and xchat you have to set that in22:54
ShootEmUpSettings-Preferences-Alerts22:55
Red-Ravenfine. im actually trying to set it up on an old XP desktop. it will be my new guinea pig machine.test some other desktop environments. maybe put server addition on it so we have a "Cloud" in the house.22:56
ShootEmUpwhat is the specs on that computer?22:57
Red-Raven512 MB RAM, 80GB HD. first thing im doing is getting an environment that has a smaller foot print. ubuntu runs significantly slower that my laptop.22:58
ShootEmUpXubuntu wii run nice on that22:58
ShootEmUpwill*22:58
ChrisDruifMaybe even better Lubuntu?22:58
ShootEmUplubuntu only has 9.1022:59
ShootEmUpit is also unstable22:59
Yorvyk10.04 10.10 and 11.0422:59
aveilleuxRed-Raven: If you're really feeling adventurous you can try building a minimal install with, say, Fluxbox22:59
Red-Ravenok thx. first though i need  to know the partitions i need for ubuntu.22:59
Red-Raven....building?22:59
ShootEmUpaveilleux, I did that too!22:59
aveilleuxShootEmUp: It's an option in my MDU project :)23:00
Red-Ravendon't i need to know a language?23:00
aveilleuxRed-Raven: You know Terminal commands right?23:00
ShootEmUpwell i did mine on an old laptop (366MHz 160MB RAM)23:00
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Or I guess you can use a script (I head a project that does that)23:01
Red-Ravensome, yes. is that what linux is built/edited/patched?23:01
aveilleuxRed-Raven: By "build" I meant "install from a Terminal-only install"23:01
ShootEmUpwhat you do is start with a command line install, then you can add what you want23:01
aveilleuxRed-Raven: The Linux kernel is written in C and the majority of the GNU utilities are written in C as well23:02
ShootEmUplike Xorg, a window manager like Fluxbox, lxde, IceWM23:02
Red-Ravenso to build your own linux you need C?23:02
aveilleuxRed-Raven: No no, banish that thought from your head. I'm not talking about writing or compiling.23:03
ShootEmUpyes, but to build your own ubuntu, you just need the Alternate Install CD23:03
ShootEmUpand know how on command line23:03
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Have a look at this and see if you can do it: http://minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/p/guide.html23:04
Red-Raveni dont follow. so say i wanted to build my own linux, or make a patch, or change an element to my liking, what do i need to know?23:04
stlsaintevening folks23:04
Red-Ravenevening.23:05
ShootEmUpRed-Raven, you take a command line system, and add what you want23:05
Red-Ravenok thx. then where does C come in?23:05
ShootEmUpnowhere23:05
aveilleuxRed-Raven: All of those require different things. Building the Linux kernel requires some knowledge of C, as does making patches. Changing UI (user interface) elements is just a matter of knowing what dialog to find23:05
ShootEmUpnot in this23:05
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Knowing C has nothing to do with the process I'm trying to tell you to do.23:06
Red-Ravenok. totally different topic, but what are the partitions i need and their formats fo installing ubuntu again? i can't remember/23:07
Red-Raven.*23:07
aveilleuxRed-Raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition23:07
nit-witRed-Raven, what are you installing.23:09
Red-Ravenhey nit-wit! ubuntu on that old XP.23:10
Red-Raveni didn't see SWAP and the others you need in that link.23:11
nit-witRed-Raven, use gparted and make a extended, then insude that a ext4 and a swap of 512 ram23:12
nit-witRed-Raven, use the custom install in the install23:12
Red-Raventhats all my RAM. that what i need?23:12
ShootEmUp512MB swap, the rest /23:12
nit-witRed-Raven, link from that page look closer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition23:13
Red-Ravensorry. add meds wore off....23:14
nit-witRed-Raven, the extended will allow you to have a unlimited amount of logical partions which the ext4 will be you could have Ubuntu and a server and other OS's on there23:14
ShootEmUpcan you see what I'm saying, cause I can't23:15
ShootEmUpnevermind23:15
nit-witRed-Raven, I have epilepsy so I'm always medicated.:)23:15
Red-Raventhat.......sucks.23:15
nit-witRed-Raven, from a head injury its not bad I'm still alive and fairly Lucid at times23:16
Red-Ravenlol. could always be worse right?23:16
nit-witRed-Raven, thats the way I look at it.23:17
Red-Raven:)23:18
nit-witRed-Raven, have you resized the XP yet23:18
Red-Ravendesk is all clutered with the parts of my freinds MP3. one freaking button, and the whole thing needs a repair....anyways, im just now booting into the Live CD23:19
Red-RavenShootemup, that setting didn't work. i have it set to beep at every kind of message, but it never does. sound is all the way up.23:20
nit-witRed-Raven, just make sure after shrinking XP that you reboot to it. It will probably run a automatic chkdsk, just make sure its running before installing the Ubuntu23:20
nit-witRed-Raven, that XP is intact basically23:21
Red-Ravenoh yah sorry i did do that. 20 GB to XP and 54 GB to unallocted (Linux)23:21
ShootEmUpgood, good23:21
nit-witRed-Raven, oh you rebel MS will not like that23:21
ShootEmUpcrap... gotta go now, ttyl23:22
Red-Ravenlol. idk why i even have XP still one there. oh yah 1: parents 2: sometimes you still need it.23:22
Red-Ravensok.23:22
Red-Ravenoh i need to assign sound files to Xchat. thats....irritating. no built in sound files? really? i mean its a cool option to customize them but no built-in one AT ALL?23:24
Red-Ravenhey do i need to install ubuntu server edition to turn my rig into a "Cloud" for my house, or can standared handle that?23:25
aveilleuxRed-Raven: GNU/Linux is a server-style operating system; the default install can handle it fine. Server edition has some kernel modules that are server-specific.23:26
Red-Ravenok cool thx.23:26
Black-Ravenhey. logged on with the old XP so i could send a screen shot and make sure i got it right and all.23:40
stlsaintBlack-Raven: what issue you having??23:47
Red-Ravenno issues. just dont want to skrew it up.23:48
Black-Ravenhttp://imagebin.org/131519 is this right for the first extended?23:49
aveilleuxBlack-Raven: Well you need an actual partition in there... like an ext4 partition23:50
Red-Raventhought you put that IN the extended?23:51
aveilleuxBlack-Raven: Creating an exended partition just tells the computer that there can be more than four partitions on the drive and to let the OS handle it. (I personally don't use extended partitions at all)23:51
Red-Ravenso then make all that space an ext 4 then?23:52
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Yes... <aveilleux> Black-Raven: Well you need an actual partition **in there**... (emphasis mine)23:52
Red-Ravenok to avoid confusion just refer to red. im only using black to post images. so i do or dont create an extended like that pic shows? cause now ive been told both.23:53
aveilleuxRed-Raven: I've never used extended partitions.23:54
Red-Ravenok well i need it in case i run out of partitions. id like to use as few as possible. and since it has no side-affects.....23:56
Red-Ravenhey can anyone help me out here please?23:57
Red-Ravenok then.... time for google23:58

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