[00:00] <Red-Raven> wasnt being rude. hard to tell tone of voice ina chat i guess. actually thats pretty awesome.you'll have to send me the script some time. anyways, gtg. cya tommorow!
[03:23] <HoboSteaux> this is going to sound odd BUT
[03:23] <HoboSteaux> im trying to get usage statics for CPU on an openvpn server while gettng speed stats from two clients
[03:24] <HoboSteaux> does anyone know of a tool/collection of tools for this?
[03:27] <stlsaint> HoboSteaux: search in synaptic package manager
[03:27] <stlsaint> there are plenty of stat trackers there
[03:28] <HoboSteaux> ty
[04:59] <JackyAlcine> Guys, I have a question regarding Boolean algerba and C++
[05:42] <MrAnthrope> This is really frustrating. I can't tell if my computer is just a piece or if this game is breaking.
[05:43] <MrAnthrope> This game has been running fine for like 3 weeks. Suddenly input is sketchy (WASD movement) and it's taking up all my CPU/ram.
[05:43] <MrAnthrope> I tweaked some WINE settings and it was running 'normally' for like 10 minutes and then started taking 100% of my system resources again.
[05:44]  * MrAnthrope throws his computer out a window.
[05:45] <holstein> hmmm
[05:45] <holstein> if you remember how you configured the game
[05:45] <holstein> maybe you could move the .wine dir
[05:46] <holstein> and let wine make a fresh one
[05:46] <holstein> and start over
[05:46] <MrAnthrope> I should note that I installed a newer wine version about halfway through those 3 weeks when it was working but it didn't seem to change any performance until ... yesterday maybe.
[05:47] <holstein> step it back down
[05:47] <MrAnthrope> For a while I had it in its own .wine folder but I moved it back to the main .wine folder when I tested to make sure this newer version of wine wasn't going to completely bork my install.
[05:52] <JackyAlcine> What game is it?
[05:52] <MrAnthrope> Dungeons & Dragons Online.
[05:53] <JackyAlcine> And I recommended backing up, wiping and starting from an older version of Wine.
[05:54] <MrAnthrope> I'm going to blame this on Play On Linux and uninstall it. Even though I installed it a while ago.
[06:01] <MrAnthrope> well that was stupid. I did sudo apt-get remove playonlinux and there is still a .playonlinux folder in my home folder.
[06:01] <JackyAlcine> Try apt-get purge
[06:02] <MrAnthrope> Alright, so how do I go about changing my wine version?
[06:04] <MrAnthrope> I've renamed my .wine folder ".wine-bak"
[06:05] <Cheri703> so I formatted an ipod and it doesn't show up now :(
[06:06] <Cheri703> and I don't know why or how to find it :(
[06:23] <MrAnthrope> lol I didn't know Wine stood for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
[06:24] <MrAnthrope> Linux likes their recursive acronyms...
[06:25] <JackyAlcine> lol, yupp :D
[06:26] <Cheri703> well, it started with gnu, not linux
[06:26] <Cheri703> gnu = gnu's not unix
[06:29] <MrAnthrope> if I go into synaptic and uncheck all references to wine that'll uninstall it right?
[06:32] <MrAnthrope> well I guess not. Now my menu is all jank.
[06:38] <MrAnthrope> what does sudo apt-get install -f do?
[07:29] <MrAnthrope> After you install a software source, how do you see the software that source offers?
[07:29] <MrAnthrope> or add a software source, whatever.
[07:30] <MrAnthrope> ah I see in synaptic now. Origin.
[08:32] <yuler> what tools can I use to determine GUI responsiveness?  My system seems to drag.   I noticed the CPU usage in system monitor cranks up when viewing, and xorg shows a cyclical spikes.
[08:38] <yuler> sorry, xload, not xorg
[10:20] <hobgoblin> JackyAlcine: ping
[10:21] <JackyAlcine> Hey hobgoblin.
[10:21] <ChrisDruif> Hai y'all
[10:21] <hobgoblin> JackyAlcine: you got a mo
[10:21] <JackyAlcine> mo?
[10:21] <hobgoblin> ment :)
[10:22] <JackyAlcine> Lol, I just didn't want you to give up on that patch idea.
[10:22] <JackyAlcine> I'll try (with some others) to address.
[10:26] <hobgoblin> JackyAlcine: ty
[10:27] <JackyAlcine> No problem.
[13:25] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[13:26] <ChrisDruif> Hai ShootEmUp :)
[13:26] <ShootEmUp> hi there ChrisDruif!
[13:26] <ChrisDruif> How's it going?
[13:27] <ShootEmUp> pretty good, except pidgin broke on me when trying to update :(
[13:28] <ChrisDruif> Ow...not for me :)
[13:28] <ShootEmUp> probably because I was using their PPA
[13:29] <ChrisDruif> I am too :)
[13:29] <ShootEmUp> maybe because I'm using facebook chat plugin?
[13:30] <JackyAlcine> ShootEmUp: might be.
[13:31] <ShootEmUp> you never know
[13:37] <ShootEmUp> back
[13:37] <ShootEmUp> had to register my Nickname, so no one can steal it
[13:48] <ChrisDruif> I wouldn't wanna even try :P
[13:48] <ShootEmUp> Has anyone seen Red-raven, Red_, or Black lately?
[13:49] <doez> Does anyone have horizontal scrolling in i.e firefox enabled somehow? I'm running 10.10 and are having problems with the scroll button.
[13:52] <ChrisDruif> doez: Touchpad?
[13:53] <doez> ChrisDruif: No, I'm using a Mx518.
[13:54] <ChrisDruif> Did you enable vertical scrolling @ the mouse settings doez?
[13:55] <doez> That's not an option in the mouse settings.
[13:55] <ChrisDruif> No? That might be a problem...
[13:56] <doez> ChrisDruid: I've even tried downloading another app that has Wheel Emulation without luck
[13:56] <doez> All I see is what happens when i press the left and right click in the regular mouse settings.
[13:56] <doez> I actually have the option Vertical and Horizontal scrolling in that other app enabled, but it doesnt work
[13:57] <ChrisDruif> So @ System>Preferences>Mouse and the tab Touchpad you can't set vertical scrolling?
[13:58] <doez> I have "General" and "Help" as the tabs there.
[13:58] <doez> So no, there's no vertical scrolling there.
[13:58] <ChrisDruif> Not even Accessibility tab? =-O
[13:59] <doez> No.
[13:59] <doez> The mouse is hooked up against my keyboard, might that be the problem?
[14:00] <doez> But the USB-extender inside my keyboard has its own usb-cable at the end.
[14:03] <ShootEmUp> /me welcomes all ubuntu users!
[14:04] <ChrisDruif> Could you pitch in ShootEmUp? See doez's question...
[14:05] <doez> I'd appreciate it.
[14:05] <ChrisDruif> So your mouse settings screen doesn't look like this? http://www.linuxnov.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screenshot-Mouse-Preferences.png
[14:06] <doez> No. How can I screenshot a specific window?
[14:06] <ChrisDruif> Default Alt+PrtSc afaik...
[14:06] <jacob_> what the crap....
[14:07] <doez> Where does the screenshot land?
[14:07] <ChrisDruif> You can specify right? Otherwise it default to Desktop I believe...
[14:07] <ChrisDruif> Or you clipboard if it's not there...
[14:07] <ChrisDruif> How did you come to 10.10...upgrade from 10.04 or fresh install?
[14:08] <jacob__> this is shootemup... I think the sever has not disconnected shootemup yet
[14:08] <jacob__> nope
[14:08] <jacob__> gotta wait then
[14:08] <hobgoblin> jacob__: try /ghost username password
[14:09] <doez> I did a fresh install
[14:09] <ChrisDruif> Wb doez...
[14:09] <ChrisDruif> Alright...
[14:09] <doez> I screwed up something
[14:09] <doez> Trying to prtscr
[14:10] <ShootEmUp> back
[14:10] <ChrisDruif> wb Jacob :)
[14:10] <doez> But no, I dont have that option.
[14:13] <ChrisDruif> ShootEmUp: Do you think he could solve his problem by installing the laptop tools?
[14:13] <doez> http://img831.imageshack.us/f/skrmbildb.png/
[14:13] <ShootEmUp> could help
[14:14] <doez> What's the name of the laptop tools?
[14:14] <ChrisDruif> doez: Are you Swedish?
[14:15] <doez> Oh yeah sorry.
[14:15] <ChrisDruif> Just curious :P
[14:15] <doez> But as you can see i only have 2 tabs.
[14:15] <ShootEmUp> doez, I can't sideways scroll with mousewheel, so you might not be able to
[14:15] <doez> oh, that's kind of what i want :(
[14:15] <ShootEmUp> I can under windows, but not ubuntu
[14:15] <doez> Same here.
[14:16] <ChrisDruif> Did either of you file a bug for that?
[14:16] <ShootEmUp> I think it goes down as a ubuntu bug, and no
[14:16] <doez> I don't even know how to do that.
[14:17] <ChrisDruif> Could either try to install mousetweaks?
[14:17] <doez> On it.
[14:17] <ChrisDruif> Easily found in synaptic...prolly also in USC
[14:17] <ShootEmUp> I'll try
[14:18] <doez> I already have that app.
[14:18] <ShootEmUp> already installed
[14:19] <ChrisDruif> I don't know what installed by default on desktops (presuming you both are on desktops rather then laptops)
[14:19] <doez> Desktop here.
[14:19] <ShootEmUp> desktop here
[14:19] <doez> The one I gave you a link for is the only one pre-installed
[14:23] <ShootEmUp> doez, are you using a mouse or a touchpad?
[14:23] <ChrisDruif> MX518
[14:24] <ChrisDruif> Thrust if I remember correctly :P
[14:25] <ShootEmUp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975971 this forum post might help
[14:26] <ShootEmUp> http://www.lomoco.org/ or this
[14:26] <doez> Thanks! I'll try that
[14:39] <doez> ShootEmUp: Have you tried with the xbindkeys yet? I'm stuck wondering where I should place the xbindkeysrc file
[14:40] <doez> Doh.
[14:58] <sushil> plz help, sound quality is very poor in my dell inspiron 1440
[15:01] <sushil> help
[15:01] <sushil> how to partition hard disk in ubuntu??
[15:02] <ChrisDruif> sushil: partitioning inside an installed ubuntu?
[15:02] <sushil> yes
[15:03] <sushil> can you tell me what is lost+found folder is about??
[15:03] <ChrisDruif> You need to install GParted...
[15:04] <ChrisDruif> I think the lost+found folder is the folder in which the write actions are stored....for when your computer suddenly powers off or something...
[15:04] <ChrisDruif> But that I don't know...it's part of the EXT4 filesystem...
[15:05] <ChrisDruif> Like I said, it's part of the EXT4 filesystem...if you remove it, EXT4 will replace it...
[15:05] <sushil> can you tell me how to know my filesystems
[15:06] <ChrisDruif> You mean how I can identify which fs you're using?
[15:07] <sushil> how to know which filesystem is the partition
[15:07] <sushil> ?
[15:07] <ChrisDruif> You can find that on multiple ways...the easiest is in system monitor...
[15:08] <ChrisDruif> System>Administration>System Monitor...
[15:08] <ChrisDruif> And then the file systems tab
[15:09] <sushil> what are /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda6 ??
[15:10] <sushil> the file systems are ext4 and vfat... which one is best for linux??
[15:11] <ChrisDruif> ext4 I would say...you can read in detail about it here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/
[15:12] <sushil> why do i need to mount the hard disk partition every time i start the computer.... is there any other way??
[15:12] <ChrisDruif> What hard disk partition?
[15:13] <sushil> vfat
[15:15] <ChrisDruif> Maybe you need to mount it because it is vfat...
[15:16] <ChrisDruif> Are you dual-booting?
[15:16] <sushil> if i format it to ext4, will the problem be solved??
[15:17] <ChrisDruif> Probably, but it will delete all content on it...
[15:17] <sushil> no..... i only installed ubuntu 10.04 lts
[15:17] <Bipul`> can any one look at my problem why i am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/551504/
[15:18] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: That's because the package is not available ;)
[15:18] <Daniel0108> have you added the ppa?
[15:18] <ChrisDruif> sushil: With all default settings? "Use whole disk" or something like that?
[15:18] <ChrisDruif> Bipul`: What Daniel0108 said...
[15:19] <Daniel0108> ChrisDruif: Lol ;)
[15:19] <sushil> Use whole disk ?? where is this??
[15:20] <ChrisDruif> With the installation of 10.04
[15:20] <ChrisDruif> Bipul`: Or did you mean this package: libgtkhtml-editor-dev
[15:20] <Daniel0108> sushil: Use the entire disk ;)
[15:20] <Daniel0108> sushil: This is the option you get when installing Ubuntu :)
[15:21] <Bipul`> well i am using ubuntu 10.10
[15:21] <Bipul`> so is it a bug?
[15:21] <JoeMaverickSett> Bipul`: apt-cache search libgtkhtml to see what libgtkhtml packages you have.
[15:21] <Daniel0108> sushil: http://tinyurl.com/2wxz6mf
[15:21] <sushil> after the installation.... is there any way out??
[15:21] <ChrisDruif> Daniel0108: He's got a partition which doesn't auto-mount...some vfat partition...
[15:21] <Daniel0108> sushil: what do you mean by: any way out? after the installation you have to restart your computer :P
[15:22] <Daniel0108> ChrisDruif: Oh, okay ;) I didn't read the entire text :P sorry ;)
[15:22] <ChrisDruif> I was wondering why that vfat partition was on it...
[15:22] <ChrisDruif> That's why I asked if he "Used the entire disk"
[15:24] <sushil> is there any options after the installation of ubuntu??
[15:25] <ChrisDruif> What is on that partition sushil?
[15:29] <sushil> empty
[15:29] <ChrisDruif> How many other partitions are on it?
[15:31] <sushil> there is one primary partition having format ext4 and other two partitions having format vfat
[15:32] <ChrisDruif> So one of the vfat's does get auto-mounted?
[15:33] <sushil> both vfat need to be auto mounted in each start
[15:35] <ChrisDruif> But if neither has addition value, then I would suggest to just remove it GParted and expand the remaining ext4 partition...
[15:35] <Bipul`> yes that package is not available in ubuntu 10.10
[15:36] <Bipul`> i think i need to build from source
[15:37] <aveilleux> Bipul`: Gparted is in Maverick.
[15:37] <ChrisDruif> Also in 10.04 afaik...
[15:38] <aveilleux> Bipul`: There are no caps in package names. Would that be it?
[15:38] <ChrisDruif> Ow...should be "with gparted"
[15:38] <Bipul`> well i have to use any higher version, but i have one question ,i am using this libgtkhtml in order to compile gyachi client  , if i use any higer version of libgtkhtml will it work ?
[15:38] <aveilleux> Bipul`: Generally yes
[15:38] <Bipul`> aveilleux,  sory dont get you
[15:38] <Bipul`> ok then let me use this
[15:38] <ChrisDruif> You need to install it from synaptic or software center
[15:39] <aveilleux> ChrisDruif, Bipul`: Or using aptitude, or apt-get...
[15:39] <ChrisDruif> Indeed aveilleux ;)
[15:40] <Bipul`> ok thanks guys
[15:40] <ChrisDruif> When you use apt-get or aptitude you can search with "apt-cache search gparted" for instance
[15:40] <aveilleux> Or just use aptitude's interactive mode
[15:41] <ChrisDruif> -i ?
[15:41] <aveilleux> ChrisDruif: No, just sudo aptitude.
[15:42] <aveilleux> ChrisDruif: Without a command or package to install
[15:42] <ChrisDruif> Like sudo aptitude gparted?
[15:51] <Cheri703> is there any recourse for "unable to delete file" ?
[15:51] <Cheri703> as in: it won't go away, how do I make it go away?
[15:52] <holstein> Cheri703: what file?
[15:53] <holstein> you can sudo rm it
[15:53] <Cheri703> a few things already in the trash...
[15:53] <holstein> BUT usually theres a reason why you cant
[15:53] <Cheri703> ah, good idea
[16:25] <wahamler> i just burned a cd image of ubuntu 10.10.  i selected the trial mode.  i walked away for a few minutes and the maching went into screensaver mode and is asking for a user id and password.  how do i get back in?
[16:25] <duanedesign_> wahamler: I cant remember the username and password,i am looking
[16:25] <duanedesign_> wahamler: it is like   username:ubuntu  pass:ubuntu
[16:26] <wahamler> i have another question as well.  my machine has a pcmcia wireless network card.  when i boot from the cd image the card does not power up.  how can i enable so i can connect to internet?
[16:28] <holstein> wahamler: are you booted into ubuntu live now?
[16:29] <wahamler> not at the moment. the machine is rebooting.  it unfortunately takes a while.
[16:30] <holstein> while you're waiting
[16:31] <holstein> google the card if you want
[16:31] <holstein> ubuntu 10.10 dlink dwl-646
[16:31] <holstein> or whatever...
[16:31] <wahamler> will do
[16:32] <duanedesign_> wahamler: even if you walk away while installing, it should not install until you enter a username and password
[16:32] <wahamler> i have not installed.  i ran the trial option
[16:33] <duanedesign_> wahamler: But I had a Ylmf disk that asked me for a username and password, but that was for the Live CD
[16:33] <duanedesign_> wahamler: aha
[16:33] <duanedesign_> wahamler: ok
[16:34] <duanedesign_> wahamler: try Ubuntu for username and a blank password
[16:35] <wahamler> ok
[16:39] <duanedesign_> wahamler: if that does not work I also dug this up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8548884&postcount=9
[17:09] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[17:15] <Daniel0108> hi
[18:11] <Bipul`> hellow i am tring to search with this command bipul@bipul-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search libgtkhtml2-dev
[18:12] <Bipul`> but nuthing happens
[18:13] <Daniel0108> try to install libgtkhtml-editor-dev :D
[18:13] <Daniel0108> or libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:13] <Bipul`> is it in 10.10 repositories
[18:13] <Daniel0108> yeah
[18:13] <Daniel0108> both are :)
[18:14] <Daniel0108> sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml-editor-dev libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:14] <Daniel0108> should fix your problem :P
[18:14] <Bipul`> ok
[18:14] <Bipul`> Daniel0108,  thanks
[18:14] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: No problem ;)
[18:15] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: Why the ` in your name? It would be easier if you change it to Bipul :PP
[18:15] <Bipul`> well i have given an option to any one have this nick Bipul
[18:15] <Bipul`> but not this Bipul`  :p
[18:16] <Daniel0108> have you tried /nick Bipul ?
[18:16] <johnny77> Does anyone know how to change the default browser in LXDE? Firefox says it's the default, Chrome doesn't know, but when I click on a link it opens Chrome.
[18:16] <Daniel0108> yeah you can change it ;)
[18:16] <Daniel0108> johnny77: ^
[18:16] <Bipul`> Nops
[18:17] <johnny77> In preferred Applications it tells me Firefox is default.
[18:17] <johnny77> how do I change it?
[18:17] <Daniel0108> johnny77: In chrome go to Preferences and click on Make Chrome/Chromium my default browser :D
[18:18] <johnny77> I want Firefox to be my default browser.
[18:18] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: Does it work now?
[18:18] <Daniel0108> oh
[18:18] <Bipul`> yes
[18:19] <Bipul`> Daniel0108,  i am installing both of them editor-dev and 3.14-dev
[18:19] <Bipul`> let see will it support my gyachi client or not
[18:19] <Daniel0108> johnny77: go to preferences (edit->Preferences), then to advanced. Open the General tab and click Check now.
[18:20] <Daniel0108> johhny77: Now press yes and you're finished ;)
[18:20] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: on firefox try, Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General Tab > System default category
[18:22] <Bipul`> libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:22] <Bipul`> ?
[18:22] <Daniel0108> yes
[18:22] <Bipul`> bipul@bipul-desktop:~$ <Daniel0108> or libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:22] <Bipul`> bash: Daniel0108: No such file or directory
[18:22] <Daniel0108> lol
[18:22] <Daniel0108> you entered my name :P
[18:22] <Bipul`> Can you tell me what's goin on
[18:22] <JoeMaverickSett> Bipul`: only libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:23] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: open a terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml3.14-dev
[18:23] <Bipul`> oh my sory i can see that :p blunder mistake
[18:23] <Daniel0108> no problem ;)
[18:28] <johnny77> Thank you.
[18:30] <Bipul`> ok i have one more problem
[18:30] <Bipul`> w32codecs
[18:30] <Bipul`> how can i install it
[18:35] <hobgoblin> Bipul`: sudo apt-get install w32codecs - or search in synaptic or software centre for it - if you've not got it then you'll need to set up the medibuntu repos
[18:36] <hobgoblin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:36] <Bipul`> hobgoblin,  i did that command in terminal and it is not there in 10.10
[18:36] <Bipul`> and about synapatic  there also not
[18:36] <hobgoblin> yes it is
[18:37] <hobgoblin> did you set up the medibuntu repos?
[18:37] <Bipul`> whats that ?
[18:38] <Bipul`> nops i have not set up
[18:38] <Bipul`> thanks
[18:38] <hobgoblin> k - link above ^^
[18:38] <hobgoblin> http://ubft.pastebin.com/u65E4J0A as you can see  - it needs the medibuntu repos
[19:04] <Bipul`> well i have to search this file
[19:04] <Bipul`> tspcodec
[19:04] <Bipul`> how shud i search
[19:06] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: go to launchpad.com and search for it ;)
[19:08] <Bipul`> Daniel0108,  is there any relation between w32codecs and tspcodec
[19:09] <Daniel0108> Bipul`: haha, sorry I can't answer you that :P I'm not a pro at such things but w32 sounds like win32 ;)
[19:42] <Bipul`> http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ <-- can i use this method to install w32codec in my ubuntu 10.10
[19:45] <Yorvyk> Bipul`, go to http://medibuntu.org/ and follow the instructions there.
[19:45] <Bipul`> yes i did that Yorvyk
[19:46] <Bipul`> but i am fail to compile gyachi as it required w32codecs
[19:49] <Yorvyk> Bipul`, in a terminal, what does 'apt-cache policy w32codecs' give you
[19:51] <Bipul`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/551594/
[19:52] <gcleric> or apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:54] <Yorvyk> Bipul`, that means they are installed
[19:54] <Bipul`> Yorvyk,  tspcodecs? come inside w32codecs
[19:55] <Yorvyk> Bipul`, not that I'm aware of
[19:55] <Bipul`> beacuse it's missing
[21:08] <aveilleux> Hello. Not too sure if this is possible, but can you make the user list and topic bar (on the right and top of the window, respectively) have transparent backgrounds like the channel view in Xchat? I'm using 2.8.8. I'll xpost this to #xchat if no one knows here, just figured I'd ask.
[21:09] <Red-Raven> hey.
[21:19] <Daniel0108> hi
[22:46] <ShootEmUp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662153
[22:53] <ShootEmUp> Red-Raven!
[22:53] <ShootEmUp> Red-Raven!Red-Raven!Red-Raven!
[22:53] <Red-Raven> Shootemup!
[22:54] <ShootEmUp> you are alive...
[22:54] <ShootEmUp> I thought you died
[22:54] <Red-Raven> sorry. for some reason the beep on highlighted text setting in Xchat doesn't work.
[22:54] <ShootEmUp> so how is ubuntu doing for you? and xchat you have to set that in
[22:55] <ShootEmUp> Settings-Preferences-Alerts
[22:56] <Red-Raven> fine. im actually trying to set it up on an old XP desktop. it will be my new guinea pig machine.test some other desktop environments. maybe put server addition on it so we have a "Cloud" in the house.
[22:57] <ShootEmUp> what is the specs on that computer?
[22:58] <Red-Raven> 512 MB RAM, 80GB HD. first thing im doing is getting an environment that has a smaller foot print. ubuntu runs significantly slower that my laptop.
[22:58] <ShootEmUp> Xubuntu wii run nice on that
[22:58] <ShootEmUp> will*
[22:58] <ChrisDruif> Maybe even better Lubuntu?
[22:59] <ShootEmUp> lubuntu only has 9.10
[22:59] <ShootEmUp> it is also unstable
[22:59] <Yorvyk> 10.04 10.10 and 11.04
[22:59] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: If you're really feeling adventurous you can try building a minimal install with, say, Fluxbox
[22:59] <Red-Raven> ok thx. first though i need  to know the partitions i need for ubuntu.
[22:59] <Red-Raven> ....building?
[22:59] <ShootEmUp> aveilleux, I did that too!
[23:00] <aveilleux> ShootEmUp: It's an option in my MDU project :)
[23:00] <Red-Raven> don't i need to know a language?
[23:00] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: You know Terminal commands right?
[23:00] <ShootEmUp> well i did mine on an old laptop (366MHz 160MB RAM)
[23:01] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Or I guess you can use a script (I head a project that does that)
[23:01] <Red-Raven> some, yes. is that what linux is built/edited/patched?
[23:01] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: By "build" I meant "install from a Terminal-only install"
[23:01] <ShootEmUp> what you do is start with a command line install, then you can add what you want
[23:02] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: The Linux kernel is written in C and the majority of the GNU utilities are written in C as well
[23:02] <ShootEmUp> like Xorg, a window manager like Fluxbox, lxde, IceWM
[23:02] <Red-Raven> so to build your own linux you need C?
[23:03] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: No no, banish that thought from your head. I'm not talking about writing or compiling.
[23:03] <ShootEmUp> yes, but to build your own ubuntu, you just need the Alternate Install CD
[23:03] <ShootEmUp> and know how on command line
[23:04] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Have a look at this and see if you can do it: http://minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/p/guide.html
[23:04] <Red-Raven> i dont follow. so say i wanted to build my own linux, or make a patch, or change an element to my liking, what do i need to know?
[23:04] <stlsaint> evening folks
[23:05] <Red-Raven> evening.
[23:05] <ShootEmUp> Red-Raven, you take a command line system, and add what you want
[23:05] <Red-Raven> ok thx. then where does C come in?
[23:05] <ShootEmUp> nowhere
[23:05] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: All of those require different things. Building the Linux kernel requires some knowledge of C, as does making patches. Changing UI (user interface) elements is just a matter of knowing what dialog to find
[23:05] <ShootEmUp> not in this
[23:06] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Knowing C has nothing to do with the process I'm trying to tell you to do.
[23:07] <Red-Raven> ok. totally different topic, but what are the partitions i need and their formats fo installing ubuntu again? i can't remember/
[23:07] <Red-Raven> .*
[23:07] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[23:09] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, what are you installing.
[23:10] <Red-Raven> hey nit-wit! ubuntu on that old XP.
[23:11] <Red-Raven> i didn't see SWAP and the others you need in that link.
[23:12] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, use gparted and make a extended, then insude that a ext4 and a swap of 512 ram
[23:12] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, use the custom install in the install
[23:12] <Red-Raven> thats all my RAM. that what i need?
[23:12] <ShootEmUp> 512MB swap, the rest /
[23:13] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, link from that page look closer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition
[23:14] <Red-Raven> sorry. add meds wore off....
[23:14] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, the extended will allow you to have a unlimited amount of logical partions which the ext4 will be you could have Ubuntu and a server and other OS's on there
[23:15] <ShootEmUp> can you see what I'm saying, cause I can't
[23:15] <ShootEmUp> nevermind
[23:15] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, I have epilepsy so I'm always medicated.:)
[23:15] <Red-Raven> that.......sucks.
[23:16] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, from a head injury its not bad I'm still alive and fairly Lucid at times
[23:16] <Red-Raven> lol. could always be worse right?
[23:17] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, thats the way I look at it.
[23:18] <Red-Raven> :)
[23:18] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, have you resized the XP yet
[23:19] <Red-Raven> desk is all clutered with the parts of my freinds MP3. one freaking button, and the whole thing needs a repair....anyways, im just now booting into the Live CD
[23:20] <Red-Raven> Shootemup, that setting didn't work. i have it set to beep at every kind of message, but it never does. sound is all the way up.
[23:20] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, just make sure after shrinking XP that you reboot to it. It will probably run a automatic chkdsk, just make sure its running before installing the Ubuntu
[23:21] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, that XP is intact basically
[23:21] <Red-Raven> oh yah sorry i did do that. 20 GB to XP and 54 GB to unallocted (Linux)
[23:21] <ShootEmUp> good, good
[23:21] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, oh you rebel MS will not like that
[23:22] <ShootEmUp> crap... gotta go now, ttyl
[23:22] <Red-Raven> lol. idk why i even have XP still one there. oh yah 1: parents 2: sometimes you still need it.
[23:22] <Red-Raven> sok.
[23:24] <Red-Raven> oh i need to assign sound files to Xchat. thats....irritating. no built in sound files? really? i mean its a cool option to customize them but no built-in one AT ALL?
[23:25] <Red-Raven> hey do i need to install ubuntu server edition to turn my rig into a "Cloud" for my house, or can standared handle that?
[23:26] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: GNU/Linux is a server-style operating system; the default install can handle it fine. Server edition has some kernel modules that are server-specific.
[23:26] <Red-Raven> ok cool thx.
[23:40] <Black-Raven> hey. logged on with the old XP so i could send a screen shot and make sure i got it right and all.
[23:47] <stlsaint> Black-Raven: what issue you having??
[23:48] <Red-Raven> no issues. just dont want to skrew it up.
[23:49] <Black-Raven> http://imagebin.org/131519 is this right for the first extended?
[23:50] <aveilleux> Black-Raven: Well you need an actual partition in there... like an ext4 partition
[23:51] <Red-Raven> thought you put that IN the extended?
[23:51] <aveilleux> Black-Raven: Creating an exended partition just tells the computer that there can be more than four partitions on the drive and to let the OS handle it. (I personally don't use extended partitions at all)
[23:52] <Red-Raven> so then make all that space an ext 4 then?
[23:52] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Yes... <aveilleux> Black-Raven: Well you need an actual partition **in there**... (emphasis mine)
[23:53] <Red-Raven> ok to avoid confusion just refer to red. im only using black to post images. so i do or dont create an extended like that pic shows? cause now ive been told both.
[23:54] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: I've never used extended partitions.
[23:56] <Red-Raven> ok well i need it in case i run out of partitions. id like to use as few as possible. and since it has no side-affects.....
[23:57] <Red-Raven> hey can anyone help me out here please?
[23:58] <Red-Raven> ok then.... time for google