[00:52] <cyberanger> so who's here for the meeting?
[01:01] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> Dan9186: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> electricus: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: ping
[01:01] <chibihogoshino> im here
[01:01] <cyberanger> Juzzy: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> wrst: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: well, in that case, huh, small meeting I guess
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:02] <elijah-mbp> pong
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> yay
[01:02] <elijah-mbp> hiyas
[01:02] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: here for the meeting?
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> meeting time!
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> sure.
[01:03] <cyberanger> yes
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> i'm watching tv and sitting on my butt on the couch - so yeah, we can have a meeting :)
[01:03] <cyberanger> three, can we get a fourth
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> i could count for two?  :)
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> *is a big guy*
[01:03] <chibihogoshino> log in a few more times
[01:04]  * cyberanger waits for elijah-mbp_ to join, so I can count him twice
[01:04] <chibihogoshino> heh
[01:05] <chibihogoshino> is three people enough ?
[01:05] <cyberanger> well, hang on, lemme see if one of the other leaders is floating on xmpp
[01:05] <elijah-mbp> ha.
[01:05] <cyberanger> well, yes, it is enough
[01:05] <cyberanger> the adgenda is small, and I've not heard from west tn today
[01:06] <chibihogoshino> ok
[01:06] <cyberanger> netritious is running a little behind
[01:07] <chibihogoshino> you wanna wait ?
[01:09] <cyberanger> just a little, jfenn2199 is also able, he's allways a bit behind, work ends as the meeting begins
[01:09] <cyberanger> is that an issue for either of you?
[01:09] <chibihogoshino> nope
[01:09] <cyberanger> all I had really is an email announcement
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> any thing big ?
[01:10] <cyberanger> eh, not as big as it should have been
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> oh
[01:10] <cyberanger> I should have been able to say we're offical loco now
[01:11] <cyberanger> but hopefully I can say that next month
[01:11] <chibihogoshino> why not this month ?
[01:12] <cyberanger> well, I'll be applying this month
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[01:12] <cyberanger> but our next meeting after that is next month
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> irc or irl ?
[01:13] <cyberanger> to get approved, irc, loco council
[01:13] <chibihogoshino> ok
[01:14] <chibihogoshino> some one els came in from knoxville .. i forget what the nick was tho..
[01:14] <cyberanger> oh, you mean for a meetup, gotcha
[01:15] <cyberanger> irl, if doable
[01:15] <cyberanger> it's gotten to be a PITA for me, and linuxman410 can't travel as easily as me
[01:15] <chibihogoshino> i dont know if they are going to join or not but they do use linux
[01:15] <chibihogoshino> pita ?
[01:15] <cyberanger> pain in the arse
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> ahhh
[01:16] <cyberanger> so idk, kinda pisses me off that I can't get up to knoxville or down to chattanooga as easily
[01:16] <cyberanger> as I did
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> yeah.
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> not having a car sucks
[01:16] <cyberanger> hell, I'd goto memphis and did goto nashville for a release party
[01:17] <cyberanger> or to run an installfest
[01:17] <chibihogoshino> that would be cool
[01:17] <cyberanger> had plans to head to some of the lugs
[01:18] <cyberanger> yeah, the installfest was easy, was gonna trick out a laptop for it
[01:18] <chibihogoshino> nice
[01:18] <chibihogoshino> what was it going to get
[01:19] <cyberanger> upgrade the hdd, setup a netboot, have minimal install (netboot) cd's for older machines
[01:19] <cyberanger> host a local mirror on it, with dns spoofing too
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> spoofing what
[01:19] <cyberanger> so do the install here, and update at home, without changing a setting
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> oh
[01:20] <cyberanger> spoof archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <cyberanger> and setup a local mirror
[01:20] <cyberanger> thus the installed machines go home, and pull updates from legitimate sources still
[01:21] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[01:21] <cyberanger> (a local mirror is still a legitimate source, gpg verified, secure apt designs, I tried very hard to insure this design)
[01:21] <chibihogoshino> how large would that be
[01:21] <jfenn2199> Evening all
[01:22] <cyberanger> not too large, if I only focused on packages needed for the install
[01:22] <cyberanger> ok, hold that though
[01:22] <cyberanger> #startmeeting
[01:22] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:22. The chair is cyberanger.
[01:22] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:22] <cyberanger> wow, I remembered that, barely
[01:22] <cyberanger> [topic] New Year Plans
[01:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  New Year Plans
[01:22] <cyberanger> evening jfenn2199
[01:23] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: still around?
[01:24] <netritious> howdy
[01:24] <netritious> what did I miss
[01:24] <jfenn2199> Nothing at all
[01:25] <cyberanger> we were waiting a little, both of you showed up about the same time (I have three announcements, really could be summed up in an email)
[01:26] <netritious> roger
[01:26] <cyberanger> is there anything you both would like to metion
[01:26] <netritious> well we can still call it a meeting :D
[01:26] <cyberanger> since jfenn2199 is on a deadline
[01:26] <cyberanger> plans in west tn?
[01:26] <netritious> possibly a meetup the 3rd week this month
[01:27] <jfenn2199> Right now I've been in survival mode but should be back full swing by 2nd week of feb
[01:27] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: glad to hear it, I know you've uh, well taken a beating
[01:27] <netritious> meant to have one last month but Krimas had me caught up with family
[01:28] <cyberanger> well, I suspended stuff that was ideal for the same reasons last month myself
[01:28] <cyberanger> what's the plan
[01:28] <netritious> where's pace_t_zulu?
[01:28] <cyberanger> and we need to have this on the wiki and email list btw
[01:28] <chris4585> birthday dinner
[01:28] <cyberanger> unavailable
[01:28] <netritious> ah that's right
[01:28] <cyberanger> he nearly forgot
[01:29] <netritious> how's it hangin' chris4585?
[01:29] <cyberanger> reason I ask, we're going to the loco council this month (or so goes my plan, don't intend to have it get sidelined again)
[01:30] <chris4585> netritious, can't complain
[01:30] <chris4585> is the meeting already over?
[01:30] <cyberanger> and right now, for events in the works, all I can say is we're sending somebody to help with chattacon for the 3rd year (me) to help run computergaming (xubuntu)
[01:30] <cyberanger> nope
[01:30] <netritious> cool chris4585...then life is good :)
[01:30] <cyberanger> not yet over
[01:31] <jfenn2199> I'm down for a meetup anywhere I know we usually meet in my neck of the woods but if you want closer to home netritious I'm down
[01:31] <cyberanger> netritious: so what's the date and place
[01:32] <netritious> Sat Jan 22 3:30pm @ Memphis Pizza Café on Madison
[01:32] <cyberanger> if you can let me know before the 12th, it'd help our application
[01:32] <cyberanger> nvr mind, it's already set ;-)
[01:33] <netritious> MPC in midtown is fine
[01:33] <cyberanger> are you doing it monthly, every third week
[01:33] <cyberanger> this case 4th saturday
[01:33] <cyberanger> ?
[01:34] <jfenn2199> well if we want that for a time and regular venue I can always ablige (8 min walk)
[01:34] <netritious> it's just that my calendar is clear on that Sat
[01:34] <cyberanger> netritious: can we turn that into a recurring event?
[01:36] <netritious> we could except I don't/can't commit to that...we (my wife and daughter) have been doing family stuff on weekends for the past few months...
[01:36] <netritious> not sure that is going to change with Krimas gone exactly
[01:36] <netritious> *won't/can't
[01:36] <elijah-mbp> family time is important.
[01:37] <cyberanger> well, it's an ubuntu hour if it's recurring weekly or every other week
[01:37] <cyberanger> but I do understand family
[01:37] <netritious> yeah...my wifes family is spread out a bit with lots of bdays, anniversaries, blah blah...it seems to be never ending, except for Sat Jan 22 lol
[01:38] <cyberanger> I don't think ubuntu hours are realistic for many in our loco
[01:38] <cyberanger> easier for college towns with active members in college and such
[01:38] <jfenn2199> Haha would it work to set it tentatively I'll know if I can maintain hosting by feb
[01:39] <cyberanger> well, my plan if we can get it to happen, is each region declares a meetup in our meeting
[01:39] <jfenn2199> That location is around the corner from me and I carry out at least once every month so I could just as easily sit and converse
[01:39] <netritious> jfenn2199: sure, I mean you are co-poc and live 8 minutes away :D
[01:39] <netritious> more lik 2 min lol
[01:39] <cyberanger> so if you can do that in febuary, announce it in febuary's meeting, and the list too
[01:40] <cyberanger> idk if that's realistic or not, but I'd like to have meeting reports, ideally with pictures
[01:40] <netritious> brb in 5
[01:40] <jfenn2199> You know what 1 sat a month (3rd) week I can commit to
[01:41] <cyberanger> if that's the saturday that works for you, and can become an event each time, shoot for it
[01:41] <cyberanger> and that helps me with one more nice thing to add to our application
[01:41] <jfenn2199> Alright well that's set for this region
[01:42] <cyberanger> I don't want you sitting alone bored either though, thus once a month doesn't have to be the same day each month
[01:42] <cyberanger> and btw, your currnet meetup is the 4th saturday
[01:43] <jfenn2199> Well I can always muster up people for MPC
[01:43] <cyberanger> perfect
[01:43] <jfenn2199> And maybe bring the good word of ubuntu to more people
[01:43] <netritious> back
[01:44] <cyberanger> so, 22nd (4th saturday) and the 19th (3rd sat.) or 26th?
[01:44] <netritious> I took a couple of pictures at the last meeting but no matter how much tweaking I did they still looked horrible, with barely a notice of the people in it
[01:44] <netritious> we were sitting beside a window on a bright sunny day :/
[01:44] <jfenn2199> 26th
[01:45] <cyberanger> netritious: eh, that's ok, we just ought to be having writeups (I guess our blog would be ideal, the wiki equally ideal)
[01:45] <netritious> regardless of which Sat it is in the month,  have Jan 22 open lol
[01:45] <cyberanger> so the 4th saturday each month, starting with Jan 22nd
[01:46] <cyberanger> for memphis (again, you two are the powerhouse atm, wow)
[01:46] <jfenn2199> Works by me and impromptu as the case may be
[01:47] <jfenn2199> Hey when Memphis is on its on!!
[01:47] <netritious> let's make it the 3rd sat, even though this one is in the 4th...can do?
[01:47] <cyberanger> it'd take me 4 days either way, jfenn2199 ?
[01:47] <jfenn2199> Ok works
[01:47] <cyberanger> (and a good pair of boots)
[01:48] <cyberanger> ok
[01:48] <cyberanger> and I'm working on an installfest kit, gonna give it a dry run at chattacon (more private testing than public, to get the gaming rigs up)
[01:48] <netritious> so every month, 3rd Sat, but this month 4th Sat is good? just double-checking
[01:48] <cyberanger> plan to howto that and get some install fests going, or at least have the ability
[01:48] <cyberanger> yes
[01:48] <netritious> and trying to confuse everyone lol
[01:48] <jfenn2199> Yep that's it
[01:49] <netritious> k cool
[01:49] <jfenn2199> Since that's it for west.... for mootbot?
[01:49] <cyberanger> so, installfest kit, this month applying to be an approved loco (so any documentations that is of use, send them my way)
[01:50] <cyberanger> I'm heading to chattacon again, on behalf of the loco
[01:50]  * cyberanger makes note, document this time
[01:50] <netritious> I plan on demo'ing some GNU Goodness at the meetup
[01:51] <jfenn2199> Send me a msg later tonight to remind me to check for the presentation netritious and I worked on which I presented to the city we can include that as well (even though it didn't become offical we still had it)
[01:51] <cyberanger> I'd like to get with #cooklug still, hiking boots isn't helpful (man, if I still had my stable job, not that I don't love my freelance work, but stable pay)
[01:51] <netritious> have you heard about that on the news jfenn2199?
[01:52] <cyberanger> I think that covers what I have, work with lugs, run events monthly at least (ideally) and a yearly event (chattacon) and our application
[01:52] <cyberanger> anything else?
[01:52] <jfenn2199> No but I spend 15 hours a day at work or on a bike or bus
[01:52] <netritious> it was on channel 5 last week how the council has to vote on the initiative, but the scope has changed since you spoke with the city though
[01:53] <jfenn2199> Really?
[01:53] <jfenn2199> Hmmm
[01:53] <netritious> yeah they are trying to go all thin client
[01:53] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: do you have anything you'd like to add?
[01:53] <chibihogoshino> not really..
[01:54] <cyberanger> netritious: ?
[01:54] <netritious> "...a central server used to consolidate all of the existing workstations and servers.." something like that...can't remember verbatim but that's close
[01:54] <netritious> I'm good cyberanger
[01:54] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: ?
[01:55] <jfenn2199> I think we've covered it all
[01:55] <cyberanger> ok, netritious can you get west tn up to date (if it's not) on documentation of it's meetings and shoot me a link of it, by say the 11th?
[01:55] <cyberanger> or jfenn2199 ?
[01:56] <netritious> we've only had the one in Sept? Oct? something like that...it wasn't cold outside yet
[01:56] <jfenn2199> The one I missed at mpc was sept
[01:57] <cyberanger> and I can cite it in our application?
[01:57] <netritious> yep
[01:57] <cyberanger> and older ones too?
[01:57] <cyberanger> ok, on our wiki?
[01:57] <jfenn2199> Info on those were on the forums
[01:57] <netritious> Dan9186, Svpernova09, Genphlux, "Rick," and myself were there
[01:57] <jfenn2199> But I need to bolt gotta get to my bus stop
[01:58] <cyberanger> ok, then i'll close the meeting and let everyone talk and bolt
[01:58] <cyberanger> #endmeeting
[01:58] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:58.
[01:58] <cyberanger> (that might have been our quickest meeting)
[01:59] <jfenn2199> Take it easy all maybe back on later
[01:59] <netritious> speaking of bolting...g2g jam...will swing by here sometime this weekend
[01:59] <cyberanger> ok
[01:59] <cyberanger> thank you both on joining in
[02:00] <cyberanger> hrm
[02:00]  * cyberanger wonders why goodbyes are much shorter now
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> heh
[02:02] <chibihogoshino> i guess people are doing allot more now
[02:05] <cyberanger> yeah, myself included
[02:05] <cyberanger> my case, looking for another stable job
[02:05] <cyberanger> http://timeanddate.com/s/1xug
[02:05] <chibihogoshino> good luck
[02:05] <cyberanger> ^ for anyone wanting to join in on the loco meeting ^
[02:06] <cyberanger> it will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
[02:06] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: thanks
[02:42] <wrst> cyberanger a late pong
[02:50]  * wrst heads back to his home server
[03:18] <linuxman410> anyone here
[03:18] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[03:19] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[03:22] <cyberanger> yes
[03:23] <cyberanger> linuxman410:
[03:26] <cyberanger> linuxman410_:
[03:27] <linuxman410_> cyberanger how r u
[03:28] <wrst> hey linuxman410_
[03:28] <cyberanger> pretty good
[03:28] <linuxman410_> wrst how r u sorry i missed meeting harddrive failed
[03:28] <wrst> oh no linuxman410_ that sounds not good
[03:29] <linuxman410_> it is a sata drive so i have to save my money to get one
[03:30] <linuxman410_> have u ever tried lubuntu
[03:38] <wrst> hmm yes i have tried ita long time ago lin... oh
[03:57] <cyberanger> wrst: yep
[03:58] <cyberanger> same answer, even quicker to send it, but little point
[03:58] <cyberanger> he's so quick to leave
[04:48] <jfenn2199> Hello again all
[05:46] <cyberanger> hey jfenn2199
[05:46] <jfenn2199> How goes?
[05:49] <cyberanger> not bad
[05:52] <jfenn2199> That's good
[13:19] <chibihogoshino> morning
[13:20] <wrst> morning chibihogoshino hows it going?
[13:20] <chibihogoshino> cold
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> i want toast but have no butter
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> lol
[13:21] <wrst> yeah we have a little snow here nothign to make any trouble
[13:21] <wrst> ha ha
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> hows your day starting ?
[13:21] <wrst> pretty good chibihogoshino how about you?
[13:22] <chibihogoshino> same old,  same old..
[13:22] <chibihogoshino> look for work
[13:24] <wrst> i feel for you there, not a good tiem for that as you well know
[13:24] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[13:25] <chibihogoshino> only reason i want one right now is, i want ice cream and hot chocolate
[13:26] <wrst> hmm ice cream!
[13:27] <chibihogoshino> its not the best dinner but its soo good i cant help it
[13:28] <chibihogoshino> as long as it stays above freezing i dont mind winter
[13:29] <wrst> looks like you may not like winter today :)
[13:30] <chibihogoshino> its 35 here
[13:30] <chibihogoshino> if it started snowing im going to punch it
[13:31] <wrst> ground is slowly getting white here :)
[13:32] <chibihogoshino> hhmm
[13:32] <chibihogoshino> so far here nothing
[16:28] <Svpernova09> Missed the meeting last night >.< Was out doing a run to atoka to pickup a ms pac man machine
[16:31] <wrst> ms pacman :)
[16:49] <wrst> hello lengau
[16:49] <lengau> Hi wrst
[16:49] <wrst> how are things going lengau ?
[16:50] <lengau> Pretty well, and yourself?
[16:52] <wrst> doing well its a nice snowy friday here
[16:58] <lengau> No snow for us in Murfreesboro yet.
[17:04] <wrst> just enough to see it falling here really lengau
[17:56] <wrst> hello pace_t_zulu
[17:56] <pace_t_zulu> sup wrst
[17:56] <wrst> not much just trying to get friday under my belt
[17:56] <wrst> how about you?
[17:57] <pace_t_zulu> pretty much the same
[17:59] <wrst> i am thinking about joining the titans in their search for a quarterback this weekend  pace_t_zulu
[17:59] <pace_t_zulu> i'm glad they're embarking on that search
[18:00] <wrst> me too
[18:00] <wrst> i really would have loved to have seen it work out
[18:00] <wrst> he has talent but i fear not the desire
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> yea, its a shame
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> he got plenty of money for his trouble
[18:02] <wrst> oh yes
[18:11] <wrst> hello chris4585
[18:13] <chris4585> hey wrst
[18:14] <chris4585> just tried ubuntu alpha and it was a battle, I guess I'll wait until beta again
[18:14] <wrst> troubles chris4585 ?
[18:18] <chris4585> not really, alpha seems to be a mess and not usable at all
[18:22] <chris4585> even worse I didn't see much done to unity
[18:22] <wrst> when i can boot it i can do ok with it... did you download alpah1 or the daily?
[18:22] <chris4585> alpha1 and updated
[18:23] <chris4585> is there a difference if you're up to date?
[18:23] <wrst> no shouldn't be
[18:23] <wrst> it actually performed well for me save the booting issues
[18:24] <chris4585> does clicking on the ubuntu logo launch /usr/share/applications ?
[18:24] <chris4585> or does it actually do something?
[18:24] <wrst> no just opens the folder up but that is a work in progress
[18:24] <pace_t_zulu> launches /usr/share/applications right now... i'm sure that will change
[18:25] <wrst> yes i have read taht officially chris4585 , pace_t_zulu but dont' have it handy
[18:25] <wrst> i think maybe from jono
[18:26] <pace_t_zulu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[19:08] <wrst> netritious: welcome !
[19:16] <netritious> howdy wrst
[19:17] <wrst> day going well netritious ?
[19:17] <netritious> not to shabby wrst...yourself?
[19:19] <wrst> doing well netritious just killing the rest of a friday :)
[19:19] <netritious> nice :)
[19:20] <wrst> yes very and watching the snow fall... but not stick
[19:20] <netritious> no snow here yet
[19:21] <wrst> lots falling but none sticking maybe sledding is in my future :)
[20:19]  * wrst is getting to use ubuntu at work for a while
[20:32] <pace_t_zulu> network manager indicator applet has landed in natty http://i55.tinypic.com/r1fv5l.jpg
[20:45] <wrst> has it not been there pace_t_zulu ?
[20:52] <cyberanger> has it gotten stable
[20:53] <cyberanger> no kernel panic and weekly reinastall
[20:53] <wrst> ha ha not for me cyberanger  :\
[20:55] <cyberanger> shame
[20:55] <cyberanger> I was considering giving it a try
[20:57]  * cyberanger convinces wrst's ubuntu install that there is such a thing as the number two, kernel goes into a panic
[20:57] <wrst> well might work on your hardware when it boots for me cyberanger its really pretty good
[20:57] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: network manager was still in the old notification area... hadn't been ported to the new indicator framework
[20:58] <cyberanger> wrst: well, gnome did too, openbox just felt snappier
[20:59] <cyberanger> but I will be giving unity a try, at some point
[21:03] <cyberanger> I've got to if I keep installing ubuntu for others
[21:03] <wrst> ahh gotcha pace_t_zulu
[21:03] <wrst> cyberanger: i think unity has promise but i really don't look to this release being something that's going to make me think i gotta have it
[21:05] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i agree about unity... this release isn't about make or break... it is a step in the right direction toward a more modern gui
[21:08] <wrst> yeah and i really won't push 11.04 or dont think i will to anyone other than with the "classic" desktop but they might really pull it out too
[21:33] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: they are making good progress so far... but it don't think it will be all that in 11.04
[21:34] <pace_t_zulu> more like 11.10 or 12.04 LTS
[21:35] <wrst> agreed and they are making very good progress
[21:57] <cyberanger> thing is, I've had sucess pushing the oddballs more
[21:58] <cyberanger> netbook simplicity
[21:58] <cyberanger> but they work, unlike current unity builds
[21:59] <cyberanger> getting rid of xorg will be intresting
[21:59] <cyberanger> I've done that here
[22:00] <cyberanger> just not using wayland either
[22:14] <cyberanger> 11.10 will be intresting
[22:14] <cyberanger> see how much changes
[23:26] <wrst> oh pace_t_zulu happy birthday
[23:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ty
[23:27] <wrst> who says facebook isn't useful
[23:35] <pace_t_zulu> haha
[23:35] <wrst> well if I'm going to sell all my info out to a great satan might as well be facebook :)
[23:38]  * cyberanger says facebook isn't useful
[23:40] <wrst> cyberanger: why? :P
[23:41] <cyberanger> I shall cite a previous statement....
[23:41] <cyberanger> 18:35:49           wrst | well if I'm going to sell all my info out to a great satan might as well be facebook :)
[23:45] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[23:45] <wrst> :)