| holstein | ScottL: did you see all those build errors :/ | 00:57 |
|---|---|---|
| holstein | i guess xorg? | 00:57 |
| holstein | changes | 00:57 |
| holstein | thats probably not your're iessu though | 00:58 |
| holstein | issue* | 00:58 |
| holstein | the sigterm thing | 00:58 |
| ScottL | yeah i saw the xorg email :( | 01:11 |
| holstein | :/ | 01:12 |
| ScottL | since its xorg i expect others to be looking into though :) | 01:12 |
| ScottL | but yeah, i don't think it's my sigterm issue | 01:12 |
| ScottL | i'll be trying the 32bit copy of natty downloaded yesterday | 01:13 |
| holstein | i did 64-bit for sure | 01:13 |
| ScottL | i managed to install a lucid install so it's probably not my new machine :) | 01:13 |
| holstein | not ubuntustudio though | 01:13 |
| holstein | i should have tried the US iso then | 01:14 |
| holstein | didnt think about it | 01:14 |
| ScottL | i'll try the 32bit ubuntustudio install later tonight, see what happens | 01:15 |
| ScottL | i suppose i could try vanilla ubuntu and then work on the ubuntustudio-settings package to test build it for the unity vs gnome-session issue | 01:16 |
| ailo | ScottL: Aren't there other outdated packages as well? | 03:43 |
| ailo | The pavudevchooser, for instance. | 03:45 |
| ailo | padevchooser, I mean | 03:45 |
| ailo | I also noticed hal is a dependency, is it needed for something? | 03:48 |
| ScottL | ailo, i don't really know, but you can file a bug report against it pointing out that dependency | 03:53 |
| scott-work | holstein: i wonder if an email to the jack-devel mailing list would be helpful for the firewire bug you reported | 15:05 |
| holstein | scott-work: jack or ffado? | 15:38 |
| holstein | nah, JACK... | 15:38 |
| scott-work | holstein: i imagine this has to do with permission for jack start correct? | 15:54 |
| * scott-work doesn't really know because he doesn't have a firewire device | 15:54 | |
| holstein | its all kinda over my head still | 15:55 |
| holstein | i can test things though | 15:55 |
| holstein | and ailo and i are discussing it and looking things up here and there | 15:55 |
| ailo | holstein: we are talking about firewire on 10.10, right? | 16:06 |
| holstein | ailo: suer | 16:07 |
| holstein | sure* | 16:07 |
| holstein | we've been talking about 11.04 too though | 16:08 |
| holstein | i still havent installed the RT kernel and tested yet | 16:08 |
| ailo | It seems firewire won't start on either 10.10 and 11.04 without aboganis kernel, right? | 16:08 |
| holstein | ailo: thats the theory | 16:08 |
| holstein | im not going to change anything else | 16:08 |
| holstein | just get that kernel, boot and run sudo qjackctl | 16:09 |
| holstein | so that should be the only changing variable | 16:09 |
| holstein | im doing a talk tomorrow at my LUG | 16:10 |
| holstein | about linux audio | 16:10 |
| holstein | the laptop i wanted to use has a power issue | 16:10 |
| holstein | all kinds of noise in whatever interface i try and use with it | 16:10 |
| holstein | while its plugged in | 16:10 |
| holstein | and the battery will only last a few seconds ;) | 16:10 |
| ailo | Yeah, I recognize that | 16:10 |
| holstein | the other notebook i have has a VIA chip | 16:11 |
| holstein | and i cant get the VGA to work | 16:11 |
| holstein | and i need to send to a projector | 16:11 |
| holstein | maybe i'll just show it on the screen | 16:11 |
| holstein | and tell whoever is interested they can come over and see it in action if they want | 16:12 |
| holstein | i dont know how much noise i can make there anyways | 16:12 |
| ailo | Is the noise really that high from the power? | 16:12 |
| holstein | its ridiculous | 16:12 |
| holstein | ive never heard such noise | 16:12 |
| holstein | something is wrong | 16:13 |
| ailo | I had some when trying to record on a laptop. Must be some earth, thing. | 16:13 |
| holstein | it was a donated computer | 16:13 |
| holstein | traded for work | 16:13 |
| holstein | who knows | 16:13 |
| holstein | and its not so nice that i want to go buy a battery and/or power supply | 16:13 |
| ailo | Maybe a gate after the soundcard? | 16:14 |
| ailo | And play only real loud music, so the hum is not heard. | 16:15 |
| holstein | yeah, and ive had that noise before | 16:15 |
| holstein | this is that only like 20 times worse | 16:15 |
| holstein | its strange and electrical somehow | 16:15 |
| holstein | turning the volume down on the amp or speakers has no affect | 16:16 |
| holstein | effect* | 16:16 |
| ailo | Well, I think you should try maximizing the sound from your laptop and minimizing on speakers. | 16:16 |
| holstein | you can hear loud pops with the mouse | 16:17 |
| holstein | and when keys are pressed | 16:17 |
| holstein | ailo: i know | 16:17 |
| holstein | but this is USB, firewire | 16:17 |
| holstein | whatever | 16:17 |
| holstein | and with the volume literally all the way off | 16:17 |
| holstein | on the amp | 16:17 |
| holstein | its getting passed through somehow | 16:18 |
| holstein | the volume doesnt change the volume of the noise at all | 16:18 |
| ailo | It's pretty common to get noise, from usb disks, from the screen... | 16:18 |
| holstein | usually i can get in's pretty clean via firewire | 16:18 |
| holstein | and that could still be the case | 16:18 |
| holstein | i havent tried that | 16:19 |
| holstein | the out is what i need tomorrow | 16:19 |
| ailo | Good luck. Sounds like a nightmare. | 16:19 |
| holstein | eh | 16:19 |
| holstein | could be worse | 16:20 |
| holstein | at least i have options | 16:20 |
| holstein | i can always carry the studio box down there | 16:20 |
| holstein | i was just expecting it to be easy | 16:20 |
| holstein | thats what i get for having expectations | 16:21 |
| scott-work | i have heard that some laptops suffer from ground looping when plugging into an electrical outlet | 16:51 |
| scott-work | the best thing is to run off of battery to avoid it was the advice | 16:51 |
| holstein | i should price one | 16:51 |
| holstein | before i give up on this one | 16:52 |
| scott-work | eviljames is WAYYY out there on #osmp | 16:54 |
| holstein | seems commited to his philosphy | 16:55 |
| scott-work | i just wanted to point out that i found the disparity between the public outrage/media covered on assange/wikileaks and those that broke laws to steal secret documents a little extreme | 16:55 |
| scott-work | and he's frothing about cheney getting people killed and the government is evilllll!!!!111ONEONETWO | 16:56 |
| holstein | in theory, our system is set up where a guy like eviljames should be able to run for some office | 16:56 |
| holstein | and change something | 16:56 |
| holstein | OR influence | 16:56 |
| holstein | nothing illegal about that | 16:56 |
| scott-work | OR get on an IRC channel as go bat shit crazy | 16:56 |
| holstein | hehe | 16:56 |
| scott-work | lol...i probably shouldn't have typed that | 16:57 |
| holstein | eh, its the -dev channel | 16:57 |
| holstein | we're all adults here | 16:57 |
| holstein | its not a regular occurance | 16:57 |
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