[00:57] ScottL: did you see all those build errors :/ [00:57] i guess xorg? [00:57] changes [00:58] thats probably not your're iessu though [00:58] issue* [00:58] the sigterm thing [01:11] yeah i saw the xorg email :( [01:12] :/ [01:12] since its xorg i expect others to be looking into though :) [01:12] but yeah, i don't think it's my sigterm issue [01:13] i'll be trying the 32bit copy of natty downloaded yesterday [01:13] i did 64-bit for sure [01:13] i managed to install a lucid install so it's probably not my new machine :) [01:13] not ubuntustudio though [01:14] i should have tried the US iso then [01:14] didnt think about it [01:15] i'll try the 32bit ubuntustudio install later tonight, see what happens [01:16] i suppose i could try vanilla ubuntu and then work on the ubuntustudio-settings package to test build it for the unity vs gnome-session issue [03:43] ScottL: Aren't there other outdated packages as well? [03:45] The pavudevchooser, for instance. [03:45] padevchooser, I mean [03:48] I also noticed hal is a dependency, is it needed for something? [03:53] ailo, i don't really know, but you can file a bug report against it pointing out that dependency [15:05] holstein: i wonder if an email to the jack-devel mailing list would be helpful for the firewire bug you reported [15:38] scott-work: jack or ffado? [15:38] nah, JACK... [15:54] holstein: i imagine this has to do with permission for jack start correct? [15:54] * scott-work doesn't really know because he doesn't have a firewire device [15:55] its all kinda over my head still [15:55] i can test things though [15:55] and ailo and i are discussing it and looking things up here and there [16:06] holstein: we are talking about firewire on 10.10, right? [16:07] ailo: suer [16:07] sure* [16:08] we've been talking about 11.04 too though [16:08] i still havent installed the RT kernel and tested yet [16:08] It seems firewire won't start on either 10.10 and 11.04 without aboganis kernel, right? [16:08] ailo: thats the theory [16:08] im not going to change anything else [16:09] just get that kernel, boot and run sudo qjackctl [16:09] so that should be the only changing variable [16:10] im doing a talk tomorrow at my LUG [16:10] about linux audio [16:10] the laptop i wanted to use has a power issue [16:10] all kinds of noise in whatever interface i try and use with it [16:10] while its plugged in [16:10] and the battery will only last a few seconds ;) [16:10] Yeah, I recognize that [16:11] the other notebook i have has a VIA chip [16:11] and i cant get the VGA to work [16:11] and i need to send to a projector [16:11] maybe i'll just show it on the screen [16:12] and tell whoever is interested they can come over and see it in action if they want [16:12] i dont know how much noise i can make there anyways [16:12] Is the noise really that high from the power? [16:12] its ridiculous [16:12] ive never heard such noise [16:13] something is wrong [16:13] I had some when trying to record on a laptop. Must be some earth, thing. [16:13] it was a donated computer [16:13] traded for work [16:13] who knows [16:13] and its not so nice that i want to go buy a battery and/or power supply [16:14] Maybe a gate after the soundcard? [16:15] And play only real loud music, so the hum is not heard. [16:15] yeah, and ive had that noise before [16:15] this is that only like 20 times worse [16:15] its strange and electrical somehow [16:16] turning the volume down on the amp or speakers has no affect [16:16] effect* [16:16] Well, I think you should try maximizing the sound from your laptop and minimizing on speakers. [16:17] you can hear loud pops with the mouse [16:17] and when keys are pressed [16:17] ailo: i know [16:17] but this is USB, firewire [16:17] whatever [16:17] and with the volume literally all the way off [16:17] on the amp [16:18] its getting passed through somehow [16:18] the volume doesnt change the volume of the noise at all [16:18] It's pretty common to get noise, from usb disks, from the screen... [16:18] usually i can get in's pretty clean via firewire [16:18] and that could still be the case [16:19] i havent tried that [16:19] the out is what i need tomorrow [16:19] Good luck. Sounds like a nightmare. [16:19] eh [16:20] could be worse [16:20] at least i have options [16:20] i can always carry the studio box down there [16:20] i was just expecting it to be easy [16:21] thats what i get for having expectations [16:51] i have heard that some laptops suffer from ground looping when plugging into an electrical outlet [16:51] the best thing is to run off of battery to avoid it was the advice [16:51] i should price one [16:52] before i give up on this one [16:54] eviljames is WAYYY out there on #osmp [16:55] seems commited to his philosphy [16:55] i just wanted to point out that i found the disparity between the public outrage/media covered on assange/wikileaks and those that broke laws to steal secret documents a little extreme [16:56] and he's frothing about cheney getting people killed and the government is evilllll!!!!111ONEONETWO [16:56] in theory, our system is set up where a guy like eviljames should be able to run for some office [16:56] and change something [16:56] OR influence [16:56] nothing illegal about that [16:56] OR get on an IRC channel as go bat shit crazy [16:56] hehe [16:57] lol...i probably shouldn't have typed that [16:57] eh, its the -dev channel [16:57] we're all adults here [16:57] its not a regular occurance