[00:58] JontheEchidna: ping [01:25] updating now... [01:25] thank you for all... === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:00] thanks Riddell for doing utils [02:00] i'll start on lucid tonight [02:01] ok, now finally everything is built and updates fine - tested (I hope it works fine too...) [02:17] mine tested fine too yofel and Riddell [02:17] and ScottK ^ [02:17] 4.5.5 [02:27] hello [02:27] I have been working in packaging KDE4 version of Kdbg [02:28] my package works pretty well, but the Kdbg.desktop in KDE menu hasn't icon [02:29] as like as in the old kde3 version package, I must to copy an xpm icon to debian/ folder, and install it in /usr/share/pixmaps [02:29] EagleScreen: checkout opendesktop.org [02:30] how do I type that order in the debian/rules ? [02:30] EagleScreen: or ask persia [02:30] packagename.desktop [02:32] I already have the .desktop file, and also de icon file, I donn't know how to made the installation of the icon in debian/rules [02:32] take the icon, and kate icon and add your desktop filrs [02:35] I think I must add to debian/rules something like this: binary-indep: install -m 644 debian/kdbg.xpm debian/tmp/usr/share/pixmaps [02:36] or: binary-arch: dh_install debian/kdbg.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps [03:33] no party people tonight? [03:40] EagleScreen: Or if you have an install file, binarypackage.install with the contents something like debian/kdbg.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps that would also work. [03:41] I already am on it ScottK, thank you very much [03:41] OK. [03:41] but I dont understand one thing ScottK [03:41] What's that? [03:42] the source packages seems to have a uncompressed man (packagemane.1), but the ones in /usr/share/man/man1 are gzipped [03:42] so must I copy it in an special way? [03:44] List the man pages in binarypackagename.manpages and dh_installman (I think that's it's name) will do the magic. [03:44] ScottK: Just to make sure before I wastw 2 hours, we need to package 4.5.5 for lucid, right? [03:45] stalcup: Typically we don't. After release we figure if you want that KDE release you ought to just upgrade. [03:45] But if you wanted to update the backports PPA, that wouldn't be wrong. [03:46] for lucid? [03:46] Yes. [03:46] okay ScottK, will do [03:46] and once i'm done, i'll do some backport stuff [03:46] stalcup: When you did 4.5.5, did you check to see if there were any SRU or security fixes from -updates/security that weren't included in upstream 4.5.5? [03:47] OK. [03:47] unless you would rather me do backports instead [03:47] I think 4.5.5 for lucid is a very low priority. [03:47] ScottK: no, I has trying to figure out the whole ppa [03:47] It's your volunteering though, so up to you. [03:47] ok, any suggestions for backports? [03:48] stalcup: It'd be good then to check updates/security for Maverick to see if there's anything that should be included in the 4.5.5 packages. [03:48] okay, will do [03:48] When I prepared 4.4.5 for lucid-proposed I found quite a number of fixes that weren't included. [03:48] Gotta run. [03:49] later [03:52] good [03:52] no known bugs or security issues [03:52] so far [05:08] yofel: I feel rude for not introducing and stuff [05:08] please accept my appology [05:12] Riddell, are we having a meeting anytime soon? [05:13] Riddell: or can I apply for membership via mailing list? [05:52] RC2 works fine here :) [05:53] first reboot failed, it just hang [05:53] but second one worked [05:53] yup, working here also [06:54] wow, the new Oxygen style engine for GTK looks great with the RC2 update :) [06:54] basically, almost native [07:07] 4.6 rc2 release? [08:52] Riddell: l10n on 10.10 still overwrites libkdepim4 [08:59] apachelogger: the new GTK-Oxygen theme engine is awesome [08:59] finally, Chromium looks like a proper Qt app [08:59] almost no difference :) [09:00] aye [09:00] * apachelogger uses ambiance though :P [09:00] what is that? [09:00] me is now runnig gnome with kwin [09:00] very sickish it looks [09:00] oh god [09:00] you are teh crasies [09:00] markey: youbuntoos gtk theme [09:01] I'm still trying to install Android 2.3 on my HTC Desire... [09:01] been trying that for weeks [09:01] but I am getting closer [09:01] cracked the HTC security stuff today [09:02] pff [09:02] but I am crazy [09:02] * apachelogger now tries listening to Geräteüberhöhung.mp3 [09:02] that is my encoding-fckd-up test file ^^ [09:02] you need professional help. ideally from a hobby shrink like me [09:03] I can diagnose you [09:03] "apachelogger is bat shit crazy." [09:03] there! [09:03] I did not even get to lie down on a couch!!!!~! [09:04] you didn't sleep? [09:04] hahah [09:04] Qt Application(4725)/phonon (KDE plugin) Phonon::KioMediaStreamPrivate::_k_bytestreamResult: KIO Job error: "The file or folder sftp://localhost/home/me/GerÃ¤teÃ¼berhÃ¶hung.mp3 does not exist." [09:04] valorie: I slept with 2 drugs [09:04] ah [09:05] that admission in black and white can get you arrested, you know [09:05] lol [09:05] it is the strangest thing [09:06] apachelogger: you should come visit us sometime, Myri has some funny happy-happy pills [09:06] that said, she does not give them out easily [09:06] which is probably good :) [09:09] phonon doesn't like the ooooomlauts [09:09] valorie: worksforme [09:10] valorie: sure it does [09:10] make sure to set correct locale [09:10] it does not in urls [09:10] actually, I haven't had a problem in Amarok for a long time [09:10] which is mostly because I was not daring enough to change it to try encoding stuff on urls [09:15] oy vey [09:15] my new findPhonon is broken [09:15] -.- [09:17] :( [09:17] maybe because kpk is teh broke [09:17] ? [09:18] that has nothing todo with kpk [09:18] k [09:19] [runtime] sitter * 1212850 * branches/KDE/4.6/kdebase/runtime/phonon/CMakeLists.txt Phonon does not life on gitorious anymore, change url to anongit.kde.org [09:20] oh [09:20] I think what is bogus [09:20] * apachelogger does not like it though [09:21] yay [09:21] all fixed up [09:35] apachelogger: since KDE is moving to git ... half our imports are going to break [09:45] well [09:45] cant be more than a days work to resolve [09:45] esp since it is subsequent anyway [09:48] yeah ... but each project moves at a different time .... [09:49] exactly [09:49] so it is 5 minutes every day for 10 days orso [09:50] * apachelogger does not see the problem [10:04] I've noticed one annoying oddity with rc2 -- screen painting seems off [10:05] in konvi, sometimes the beginning of the line disappears before I hit return [10:05] sometimes the whole line [10:06] and in the browser (FF) the right and left halves of the screen seem to lose touch with one another [10:06] scrolling especially [10:33] what is the 4.6 standard plasma theme? air? [10:48] jussi: yes [10:53] shadeslayer: ahh, ok, it doesnt look very good imho, so I changed it :) [10:54] 4.6 has a rather limited choice of plasma themes :S [10:54] likewise [10:54] shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/08/plasma-desktopdh2166.jpg [10:54] oxygen has improved though [10:54] oxygen is better now yes [10:54] but ... plasma themes need a overhaul [10:55] trunk had a nice one that I found yesterday in neon, forgot the name [10:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/kepek/oxygentransparent.png [10:55] there is a theme called Androbit, it is developed by a Hungarian Debian user [10:55] ulysses: thats reasonably nice, but the icons on that theme feel fat to me [10:55] that does look cool, but window translucency without blur is crap :/ [10:56] Blur is buggy for me [10:56] oh, and the network icon on this theme is _soo_ much better [10:56] blur works fine here, *except* for the translucency plugin [10:56] heh, reminds me of the kde3 one [10:57] jussi: nice icons ... [10:58] yofel: the current network icon sucks. its incredibly non recognisable [10:58] the wireless icon is good, the wired one is crap [10:58] I already had to explain what it's supposed to represent to a few people... [10:59] yeah, still, its a little bettter than the one that when it was connected it looked like it was disconnected [11:01] yep [11:01] sheytan: design some new network icons :P [11:01] some icons need a rehaul ... others got a rehaul [11:01] dammit ... still no data recovery [11:02] yofel: any ideas on how to repair my filesystem? [11:02] fat? nope, if a windows recovery app can't do anything I can't either [11:02] well ... testdisk doesnt find my single FAT32 partition [11:03] and what happens if you mount it in linux? [11:03] fdisk did list it iirc [11:05] thats just the WD Software partition [11:06] if there is a way to force the partition to mount [11:06] can you show me the output again? I think that partition spanned the whole drive [11:06] i bet the partition table is fscked up [11:07] lol [11:07] http://paste.kde.org/2010/ [11:07] nice paste url :> [11:07] heh [11:07] hm [11:07] 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121515 cylinders [11:08] start: 1 end: 121515 [11:08] http://paste.kde.org/2011/ << :P [11:08] :D [11:08] shadeslayer: from the partition table sdb1 takes the whole disk [11:10] hmm [11:11] lets try mount then [11:12] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [11:12] im pretty sure there was a command to fix that [11:12] msft or something === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:15] yofel: bad superblock [11:15] note: I don't know anything about trying to fix fat, if chkdsk fails I'm out of ideas [11:17] just tried fsck.vfat no luck [11:18] yofel: i cant find a option to force a mount [11:20] [ 2294.534323] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1. [11:21] are you sure that's fat? [11:21] yep [11:21] I assumed it's fat from the partition type, but is that actually the case? [11:21] hm... [11:22] i didnt format it when it arrived and at that time it used fat32 [11:22] if only there was a way to re write the partition table === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:27] ok starting a deeper search with testdisk [11:32] ScottK: ping [11:43] Riddell: Actually, this is maddness, the dh_python magic somehow makes sip.so into sip.cpython-31mu.so [12:05] yofel i'm not doing icons :) [12:06] you could try, your other work is already great :P [13:11] oh [13:12] apachelogger: so phonon does not work with QML/QGraphics stuff, what does this mean for HTML5 videos rendered with QGWV ? [13:12] no sound? [13:12] *shrug* [13:12] that someone should fix phonon? [13:12] s/someone/apachelogger [13:13] * shadeslayer tries [13:13] well [13:13] cant.... no kdelibs5-dev :/ [13:13] * shadeslayer starts writing blog [13:13] phonon does not depend on kdelibs [13:14] s/kdelibs5-dev/libqt4-dev for my QGWV demo browser [13:40] enabled the link on kde.org to kubuntu rc2 details [13:43] kewl [14:05] hey, I modified the kubuntu-logo.script for plymouth to support the ask-question method (it is similar to the ask-for-password but it shows the thing you entered rather than just bullets). How can I propose this patch or something? Because I definitly need this method on my machines [14:08] apachelogger: poke .. around? [14:08] and drunk [14:08] * apachelogger just had 3 glasses of beileys for breakfast [14:08] 0_o [14:09] apachelogger: need a topic for kubuntu-mobile Cfp @ conf.kde.in [14:10] :-D [14:10] oh rbelem you too [14:10] altho [14:10] i need a bigger SD card first :| [14:11] * apachelogger is probably moving in march [14:11] to the inner city [14:12] shadeslayer, you could talk about installing it on mobile devices, like n900 and android devices, and how they can contribute [14:13] well sure [14:13] need a topic first tho :P [14:13] and a bigger SD card to test on my desire :P [14:14] shadeslayer, did you find a class 10? [14:14] shadeslayer, Installing kubuntu-mobile on your smartphone :-D [14:15] nah [14:15] and nah [14:15] need something snappier [14:15] ah [14:15] hahaha :-D [14:15] shadeslayer: you are talking? [14:15] apachelogger: yes! :P [14:15] shadeslayer: kubuntu mobile - bringing a desktop OS to the mobile market [14:16] you could talk a lot about challanges and stuff [14:16] apachelogger: 45 mins should do it imp [14:16] *imo [14:16] then show plasma-mobile without gles acceleartoin [14:16] and with [14:16] considering I get it to work at some point [14:17] and make it look like we did all sorts of work to make plasma-mobile the fastest ;) [14:17] lol [14:17] which should be obvious from showing without gles and with gles [14:17] apachelogger, nice topic name :-D [14:17] and quite honestly I for one think that actually forming the gles stuff into deployable form is the greater effort there anyway [14:17] with closed source drivers and whatnot [14:17] apachelogger, the latest plasma-mobile version in natty is faster [14:18] shadeslayer: oh, you can also rant a bit about that [14:18] rbelem: did you get it to work with our kernel? [14:18] or with meego? [14:18] apachelogger, meego [14:18] * apachelogger is all busy with phonon shit right now [14:18] rbelem: our kernel starts but then X fails, so I suppose we need some natty foobar for the kernel [14:19] didnt investigate why X fails though [14:19] * rbelem is busy with fileshare stuff [14:19] oh i have a idea [14:19] maybe i can upgrade that lucid chroot to natty [14:19] and get it to work on my phone [14:20] apachelogger, hum... is the sgx driver being build? [14:22] apachelogger, i dont know how sgx drivers are used by X [14:24] not at all :P [14:24] well [14:25] not on omap3 AFAIK [14:25] omap4 has x drivers [14:27] apachelogger, was shadeslayer that made that fileshare mockup? [14:27] ops [14:27] sheytan, [14:28] sheytan yes [14:28] sheytan: btw, any progress on phonon page? ;) [14:31] sheytan, i would like to make some changes to the mockup and add afiestas to the discussion [14:31] apachelogger nope :) Need to finde more time. [14:31] rbelem which mock? [14:32] shadeslayer, we are planning to make one fileshare kcm, that will have samba, webdav and bluetooth [14:32] ops sheytan ^ [14:32] shadeslayer, sorry :-( [14:32] :P [14:32] rbelem: I hope that is not going to be too crowded === shadeslayer is now known as kshadeslayer [14:32] hahah :-D [14:32] happy now? :P [14:32] hahahaah :-D [14:33] rbelem yeah, this is a good idea. A simple sharing kcm is a MUST! :D [14:33] kshadeslayer: much better [14:33] much better now [14:33] kshadeslayer: you could also come up with something original [14:33] like sdfoi1 [14:33] like our dictator [14:33] apachelogger: original? [14:33] who? [14:33] what [14:33] * apachelogger does to the day not remember his nick [14:33] also [14:33] plasma mobile on android is original [14:33] :> [14:35] sheytan, we need to remove some items from that mockup, like cdrom share, and add bluetooth and webdav [14:35] rbelem sure, what's webdav? [14:36] sheytan, a fileshare via http [14:36] sheytan, using apache or lighttp [14:36] rbelem: sorry for the discordination :/ [14:36] afiestas, np :-D [14:36] rbelem but please, please add "internet sharing" [14:36] i will use this very often [14:36] sheytan, internet sharing is possible only with connman [14:37] afaik [14:37] rbelem can't you write a daemon or something like this? [14:37] sheytan, but maybe that could another kcm [14:37] or jsut a GUI [14:37] there must be a way to write a gui for internet sharing :P [14:38] sheytan, we can work to add connman support [14:38] sheytan, but that will time a little time :-) [14:38] take [14:38] rbelem please do :) [14:38] without a gui for that, it's useless for most users :P [14:39] sheytan, that's true [14:39] afiestas, bluedevil has support for bluetooth networking? [14:41] pingaroo apachelogger [14:41] stalcup: ooragnip [14:41] apachelogger: see pm please :) [14:42] what would be the extension of a .ssh file? [14:43] afiestas, another question in advance :-) what bluetooth fileshare need in kcm fileshare? [14:44] afiestas, one more, can we make kcm fileshare accept plugins? [14:47] Tm_T: ping [14:48] sheytan: ping [14:48] apachelogger pong [14:50] rbelem: BlueDevil should not been the responsable of stablish the connection, but NetworkManagement (or conman) is [14:50] will is already working on that, so in theory we should be able to have something working for the next release of "kde networkmanagement" [14:53] afiestas, are connman or networkmanager responsible for running org.bluez.NetworkServer? [14:53] yes, all of these interfaces need a persistend process [14:53] cool [14:54] after discuss about that in the solid sprint, we decided that NetworkManagement was the responsable (and after seeing how nm-applet does it) [14:54] afiestas, do you know if currently this feature already works? [14:54] gare go (Kamoso hacking session with apol) brb [14:55] :'( [14:59] brb [14:59] here i am apachelogger [14:59] Xand3r: sheytan, sheytan: Xand3r [15:00] Xand3r: sheytan is my most favorite designer, who can help you make a thrilling UI [15:00] Xand3r yo :D [15:00] sheytan: Xand3r wants to make kopete more lovely [15:00] Xand3r: I showed sheytan your mocks [15:00] what? [15:00] yayy [15:00] Xand3r: what what? [15:00] Xand3r: kopete is fugly :P [15:00] ack [15:01] kshadeslayer http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4494/mmm3.png http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8695/mmm2.png what's so bad? :D (kool name btw) :D [15:02] sheytan: the bad thing there is that your chat window does not look like it belongs to the contact list at all :P [15:02] sheytan: whats the chat theme though [15:02] looks like I could like it too [15:03] in orange of course [15:03] haha [15:03] otherwise it looks odd in my youbunttoo :D :D [15:03] kk [15:03] apachelogger: what happened to your KDE? :O [15:03] why is all orange [15:03] +it [15:03] thrown away [15:03] apachelogger it's one from Adium (os x messanger), it has lots of colors :D [15:03] lennart made me switch to gnome [15:03] sheytan: plz send [15:03] if it got organe I am all in love [15:03] so sheytan what i have to do? [15:04] Xand3r: apachelogger said you want to bring kopete concact list and chat window into one window, right? [15:04] yes [15:04] apachelogger http://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=xtras&xtra_id=1385 [15:05] * apachelogger notes that this should ultimately be optional as users are bound to go whining btw [15:05] sheytan: thx [15:05] Xand3r for me it's a bad idea, cause this will take too much screen space. I like small stuff, but if you wish to make that, i can make some mockups for ya [15:05] Xand3r, sheytan: I want a workign prototype by may ;) [15:05] rock on [15:05] apachelogger, Xand3r well, lets turn kopete into something liek adium :D [15:06] with all themes support [15:06] sheytan: yea you can do that but what will i lern if you do the work [15:06] Xand3r i cann only GIMP some images for you, am not a dev :) [15:07] you do that in gimp? [15:07] or qtcreator :D [15:07] http://adium.im/screenshots/ [15:08] DO NOT TURN KOPETE INTO AN IDE!!! [15:08] I am serious [15:08] I will have to kill markey :P [15:08] IDE? [15:08] hahaha [15:09] Xand3r: development ui thing [15:09] lol [15:09] like kdevelop [15:09] apachelogger why markey? :D [15:09] Quintasan: encoding the Python3 version in the .so name is by design. It avoids needing separate installation directories for each version like we need with Pyhon(2). [15:09] sheytan: cause markey wants to murder me [15:09] don't kill him, who will wirte amarok? :D [15:09] ooh [15:09] Quintasan: Pong, btw. [15:09] sheytan: Nightrose [15:09] is it possible that i regenrate my private publick key pair using my passphrase? [15:09] also [15:09] kshadeslayer: sure [15:10] well, Xand3r and apachelogger: what i will do, are some mockups of how i would like to kopete looks like [15:10] how do i specify a custom host ... like shadeslayer@kubuntu instead of shadeslayer@saphira? [15:10] so sheytan make a mockup, i want to see something amazing [15:10] Xand3r hopefully i'll start tomorrow :) [15:10] Xand3r: you make some code for the mockup and that too must be amazing :P [15:10] a party in 3h today :D [15:10] awww [15:11] he has time to party [15:11] and I am stuck with stinky old gstreamer [15:11] meh [15:11] apachelogger: how :P [15:11] apachelogger btw, why gstreamer? [15:11]