[00:00] nooo [00:00] ;p [00:00] but if you want to chat with lubunteers [00:00] about anything, you're free to join #lubuntu-offtopic [00:00] yea I know offtopic:) [00:00] :D [00:00] are u there ? [00:00] ofcourse [00:01] ok :) [00:01] so I will join next time [00:01] and now good night :) [00:01] okies, laters [00:08] will lubuntu be official by april? [00:13] semitones: no telling [03:03] How do I create a usb bootable stick with an .iso image file? [03:05] does lubuntu have system> admininstration> startup disk creator? [03:06] That is what I was looking for. I installed it, but cannot find it. [03:06] Never mind....found it!!! [03:08] Ah, but it does not let me select a downloaded .iso file that I have on my desktop [03:08] i wish i could help -- but I don't have lubuntu installed at the moment... [03:09] on ubuntu you can choose the iso file [03:12] http://i.imgur.com/jT4FU.png [03:12] is what i see [03:12] Yes, here I cannot. [03:12] Hmm. [03:13] I hit 'other' and select the image but it does not show up in the list [03:13] Is that in Ubuntu or Lubuntu? [03:13] Lubuntu [03:14] Ok just installing it so I can have a look for you [03:16] What program did you install? usb-creator ? [03:16] I believe that is what it was called [03:17] So where does it install to, I can't find it on the menu's either [03:17] Preferences [03:18] ah you installed the -gtk one I guess [03:18] Preferences>Startup DisckCreator [03:18] yes [03:18] Ok now I'm with you sorry. I've used it heaps before but not under lubuntu [03:19] No problem. I've used it under ubuntu and it worked. [03:19] Ok I can select any iso [03:19] hmm [03:19] I'm not certain but a common problem is the lack of gvfs-backend package you might have a look at if you haven't already [03:20] Explained here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/#Network File Browsing with PCManFM [03:20] Is there anything else that will do it? [03:20] Without a ton of background work? [03:21] so do you have gvfs-backends installed? [03:22] yes [03:23] So when you hit "other" it just doesn't do anything? [03:24] Yes, file selector window opens, I navigate to the .iso I want is. I select that .iso. It does not show up in the source window. [03:24] the file selector window closes though [03:25] I'm sorry I can't reproduce that at all. I was hoping to get to the same spot as you do so I could help but mine is just working [03:26] Must be something wrong with my install [03:26] The mailing list might be more useful for you though, https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop has the email address and signup details [03:27] I will try to completely remove it and reinstall it. [03:28] If that doesn't work, I'll boot into Ubuntu and get the work done there. [03:28] Ok mate, sorry I couldn't help [03:29] Nope, same fault....something must be wrong with my machine here....or my install of Lubuntu is not working correctly [03:30] No other software can do this same thing???? [03:32] I'm sure there's heaps but that's the only one I've ever used [03:33] You could try to load it from cli and see if it throws any errors you can debug [03:34] what is the actual program name? [03:34] that is actually a good idea and I should have already thought of that [03:35] usb-creator-gtk I think [03:36] nope, no error [03:36] It just does not select the file that I select [03:36] It does have two selected by default that are in my downloads directory. They are both lubuntu .isos [03:37] did you try with a non lubuntu .iso file? [03:37] Yeah I used the Ubuntu 64 bit alternate [03:38] Ok, then that is not it. [03:38] Try running as sudo? [03:39] Good idea, but no. [03:39] Same thing [03:40] But, it did not pre-select the lubuntu .iso files in the downloads directory [03:42] Sorry mate I'm running out of ideas :/; [03:43] No problemo.....I'll try under Ubuntu and see what happens! [03:43] Thanks for trying though. [03:45] You're welcome [04:02] head_victim, nope, does not work under Ubuntu either. [04:03] Bookman: that is really weird. [04:03] I'm sorry but I'm organising myself to head off to work though. [04:03] Might be a file browser type issue? I'm not really sure [04:03] No problem. Have a great day! [04:03] Or might be a problem with the one ISO [04:04] Yeah, I'm trying another iso [04:22] no matter what I try it does not work [04:22] My son has a windows 7 machine, let's see if that will get the job done [04:31] hi [04:32] anyone there ? [04:32] Yes [04:33] i have a question ... may be a noobish one ... [04:33] is it ok ? [04:33] yup [04:34] how "easy" is it to use lubuntu when you are a total noob ... is it as easy as the original ubuntu or ar there differences? [04:35] Pretty easy and help is right here. [04:36] the thing is ... i want to give a friend a computer ... some old pentium III running at 1000mhz and 512 mb of RAM [04:37] i like ubuntu because its easy to use but i'm a bit concerned about the system being not powerfull enough ... [04:37] searching the web i heard that lubuntu is more resource efficient [04:38] I should work. I have a similar system here and it works just fine [04:39] ok ... and it is about as easy to install new stuff via the built in packet manager ? [04:39] On another note, the Startup Disk Creator definately does not work. [04:39] Umino948, yup, no issues on my end [04:39] Worked just great! [04:39] what does it do ? buld an emergency disk ? [04:39] *buil [04:44] i'm trying to install it on a virtual machine to test it but it looks like it doesnt work ... [04:45] Umino948, what does not work? [04:45] well nothing ... a black screen is all i get ... [04:46] ok, under a vm you get a black screen? [04:46] i'm using virtualbox 4.0.0 on a windows 7 host [04:46] yes ... the vm "screen" stays black right after booting the CD image [04:47] Ok, 64 bit windows 7 and 64 bit lubuntu? [04:47] nope ... 32bit ... [04:47] 32 bit windows 7 and 32 bit lubuntu? [04:48] i guess... got the iso frum lubuntu.net ... doesnt say anything if its 32 or 64 bit ... [04:49] filename just says lubuntu-10.10.iso [04:50] Well, under Windows 7 I do not have experience, sorry about that. [04:50] I'm trying Windows 7 to solve my USB creation problems at the moment [04:50] i'll try it on real hardware ... be right back ... [04:54] ok .. seems like it just doesnt like the VM ... [04:55] on my old athlon @ 1200mhz with 386mb RAM the disk starts fine [04:57] Should work on your minimal hardware (my dream machine when I was 20!) [05:00] how old are you now ? [05:01] ? [05:01] 150 years Linux time [05:02] i mean ... because you said that "minimal hardware was your dream machine when you were 20 ... so i guess you are older now [05:03] Yes....I started with a TRS-80 COCO [05:03] WTF is that ? [05:03] There you go [05:03] Tandy [05:03] Radio Shack [05:05] Umino948 you have an invite [05:05] good old motorola 68xx CPU [05:05] haha ... right dragon .. [05:05] there you go!!!! [07:23] I am facing some problem lately while configuring pidgin for IRC chat [07:23] I am getting this error ------"Unable to connect: Access denied: HTTP proxy server forbids port 6667 tunneling"....In my college we need to pass through proxy to connect to internetnet [07:26] AndrewLee, can you help wolfpack ? [07:28] wolfpack> I am facing some problem lately while configuring pidgin for IRC chat [07:28] I am getting this error ------"Unable to connect: Access denied: HTTP proxy server forbids port 6667 tunneling"....In my college we need to pass through proxy to connect to internetnet [07:28] :D [07:28] great [07:28] bioterror, ^ [07:32] ircing is denied in that place [07:32] such is life [07:33] I suggest to think about buying a shell acount and irc from there, if that place allows ssh connections [07:33] which is allowed in many places [07:34] wolfpack, ^ [07:35] I suggest to try ssh'ng to some where [07:35] before making any decissions [07:48] how do I add stuff to the LXDE menu? [07:48] The sort of START menu thingy. === zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie [08:10] geee [08:10] what I shame we cant answer to question in 3 mins [08:33] tbqh we should have a proper wiki for these kind of things in lubuntu [08:34] how to add stuff to menu [08:34] cp /usr/share/applications/bmon.desktop /usr/share/applications/new.desktop [08:34] and tell to edit to a proper one [08:35] Yorvyk, what do you think [08:46] bioterror: I'm writing some stuff at the moment to add to the wiki, I've been noting the questions that keep occuring. [08:46] http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ this is really... just a "documentation" [08:48] That's the problem through out Linux. There is documentation but, it is scattered all over or intended for developers, or out of date. [08:48] yes, that's not helping random joiners [08:49] everything is explained to through out and one with the ADHD cant read that much information [08:49] too [08:49] he needs an example right now and what all those lines means [08:50] That's why the man pages aren't of use to newbies; no examples [08:55] The clock settings highlight another problem; it tells you to see the man page to alter it, when what's really needed is a simple GUI with a couple of standard settings to choose from. [09:01] anyone using pidgin on lubuntu 10.10? i'm getting segmentation fault [09:08] edster_, have you loaded any plugins_ [09:08] no it's just a fresh install [09:08] weird [09:08] i'm trying to update to 2.79 now.. see if that helps.. default install was on 2.73 [09:10] oh great [09:10] I got update which askd if I would like to set key to change keyboard layout [09:10] I chose not to add that key [09:11] and now Ive got american keyboard layout instead if finnish/swedish [09:11] oh.. that happened during the update? didn't ask me that.. weird. [09:11] well, Im running natty [09:11] :D [09:11] oh.. how is that btw [09:11] but still [09:11] using lxde? [09:11] yeah [09:12] stable enough for everyday use? [09:13] depends, if you can live things like these and you can solve problems like these [09:13] so probably not. :) [09:13] darn.. segfault with 2.7.9 [09:14] you have something broken [09:14] it's default installation.. unless there's something funny wiht my hardware and lubuntu.. [09:14] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Backtrace [09:14] do a backtrace [09:15] and post to launchpad your bug [09:15] ya.. i think i'll do that.. [09:16] btw.. do u know if smb is integrated into pcman [09:16] ability to browser window shares [09:16] ya [09:16] or you want to share something_ [09:16] sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends [09:16] and restart pcmanfm [09:16] read/write to winshare [09:17] let me try that [09:19] I'm not satisfied with this now that I have to setxkbmap [09:19] what is that [09:27] had to make xorg.conf and add keyboard lines [09:27] öÖÄöä, works like a charm [09:30] hey. my gdb and pidgin both froze [09:30] while i'm trying to do a backtrace [09:30] dont know what the deal is with that [09:38] edster_, I suggest to run memtest86+ [09:39] oh.. u think it's a hardware memory issue [10:02] edster_, worth of checking, not normal [10:53] * JLuc just installed dropbox and added it to the autostart - great ! [10:58] JLuc: You realise that makes you our Dropbox expert and anybody with problems will directed to you :P [11:01] hahaha [11:13] Yorvyk, we made yesterday a working installation ;) [11:13] Yorvyk, using dpkg :D [11:14] but I didnt think it needs to be autorun === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:19] ok when i'm here ! [11:19] bioterror: all the Dropbox installs I've done produce a .desktop file in Autostart [11:21] i had to add a line in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart [11:22] as i had done previously with skype [11:23] but here the line refers to the absolute path of the appl, /home/me/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd [11:24] well... [11:24] next work : provide a way to send reduced photographs with thunderbird without having to use gimp previously... [11:25] you know how ? [11:28] well... [11:28] imagemagick [11:28] see later [11:28] ofcourse [11:29] ok i will try [11:29] convert is okay [11:29] but I think it will change the origina [11:29] original [11:29] sorry [11:30] mogrify is the one that changes "original" file [11:30] and convert does it without touching the original [11:30] http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php [11:31] i would like to get a right click interface [11:31] with a "send reduced image" option on image files [11:31] yeah and I would like to date miss universumn, but well, you know, things just doesnt happen ;) [11:31] in the file manager [11:31] ah [11:31] imagemagicks convert is closest thing that you get [11:32] ok [11:32] :-( [11:32] thanx anyway [11:32] hello guys [11:33] idk why when i try to install something it suggest to me a hole bucnh of other packages and its not cool at all anynoe kno how to avoid this ?? [11:33] here http://pastebin.com/mgnmNZTJ so much packages to install when i asked to install only 4 [11:37] how about reading the man page of apt-get [11:37] there's a section which says: [11:37] --no-install-recommends [11:37] Do not consider recommended packages as a dependency for [11:37] installing. Configuration Item: APT::Install-Recommends. [11:38] bioterror: okies thanks [11:39] bioterror: btw is there any dictionnary ican use offline ?? [11:39] i mean an dicotionnary app ;] [11:39] I dunno [11:39] I use "dict" [11:40] but u have to be connected to the net ?? [11:40] me iwant one that can work offline : O [11:40] well, I'm 24/7 connected to intahnetz, unless my ISP messes things up [11:40] haha i can see [11:42] kosaidpo_: It's kanagram that brings in all those files, being a KDE app it needs the libraries. [11:42] Yorvyk: thanks ;] [11:43] ill see how kde tend to be heavy tho [11:43] miss universum is my everyday neighbour so i'm used to it and would miss it [11:43] :D [11:44] i will check on geckozone [11:44] kosaidpo_: what do you mean by dictionary [11:45] Yorvyk, something like "dict" I assume [11:45] to find definition of words and can be used offline ( not translating ) [11:46] I think bioterror is right and there isn't one [11:47] :P and this dicts cant use it offline ?? [11:56] before and without reducing images... [11:56] is there a way to get "send file by mail" on right clicking a document icon in the file manager or desktop ? [11:57] JLuc: cunning programming :p [12:03] you should suggest that one to pcman ;D [12:07] I need a dict too... or a slang dict maybe ? [12:08] Marked by or given to artful subtlety and deceptiveness. [12:08] 2. Executed with or exhibiting ingenuity. [12:08] 3. Delicately pleasing; pretty or cute: a cunning pet.$ [12:08] yeah, one urban dictionary application is welcome and one for querying encyclopedia dramatica :D [12:09] it should be 2. [12:09] then, 1 too ! [12:09] is it the same with ubuntu and other distros ? [12:13] JLuc: stardict i jst install ed it [12:14] its offline [12:15] non c'était une blaque le dico : je comprenais pas 'cunning' ;-) [12:15] ubuntu seems to have "send to" option [12:16] and "send to trash" aswell [12:16] so its specific to lubuntu [12:16] those are in nautilus [12:17] lubunt uses pcmanfm [12:22] Once you start adding features things get bigger and slower [12:44] Yorvyk: Agree. Just look at xubuntu now. [12:52] shell :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd [12:52] UNION [12:52] DINOCO [12:52] :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD [12:52] ohop [12:52] wrong window [12:52] if I type /clear, you wont see those lines [12:53] ou yeah [12:53] i have installed nautilus [12:54] my condolences [12:54] there is 'send to trash' but not 'send by mail' in its icons right clic [14:01] when 1010 expires, is that also when the next lts comes out? === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [15:09] Hai everyone [15:11] Someone went through the trouble to update the Using the Terminal page, but didn't update the stylesheet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [16:20] hi im thinking of getting lubuntu and was wondering whether any1 know's the reccomended system specs for it [16:23] or how much quicker it is compared to xubuntu [16:55] Cradam: have read of the topic :) [16:55] Cradam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/#System requirements [16:57] ur a bit l8 but i might try it im going to be using puppy linux === Freejack is now known as Guest78370 [20:11] hi everyone [20:12] phillw are you there ? [20:13] anyone else ? [20:18] I'm here [20:20] umino, remove icedtea6, remove openjdk* [20:20] and install sun-java6-jre,-bin,-fonts,-plugin [20:21] those opensource java thingies does not work with propietary java [20:22] ah ok [20:22] besure to remove all those icedtea6 and openjdk [20:22] and default-jre [20:22] and then install sun-java6-jre,-bin-.... [20:22] i'm going to remove all java stuff i installed so far [20:23] and then i need the sun-jave-JRE [20:23] sun-java6- [20:23] use tab key to complete [20:24] makes your life easier [20:24] ^_^ [20:24] if you use terminal [20:24] ok ... synaptic doesnt show me anything so i guess i need the terminal first [20:24] ey [20:24] hey! [20:25] one thing [20:25] in synaptic [20:25] enable partner repository [20:25] you need as the propietary java is located in it [20:29] BRB [20:33] i'm back [20:34] ok .. how do i get synaptic to install the other packages ... like the original sun java [20:34] did you enable that partner repository? [20:35] how ? [20:35] jsettings repositories [20:35] settings > repositories [20:36] put checkmark on all boxes ":D" [20:36] except source code [20:36] i have main, universe, restricted and multiverse checked [20:36] okay [20:36] Other Software [20:36] you have there third [20:36] Canonical Partners [20:38] right under cdrom ? [20:38] other software is that tab [20:38] yeah some where there [20:38] you got it? [20:38] ok i check that [20:38] and then ? [20:38] close synaptic and let it load the library [20:39] its loading [20:39] in terminal [20:39] after that [20:39] sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-plugin [20:40] and restart your browser and head to the site http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml [20:40] and there it is .. sun-java6-jre is in the list now [20:41] copied that in the terminal and its doing something [20:42] console is faster if you know what you want ^_^ [20:42] sure it is [20:42] you dont have to move mouse all the time and clicketi click click [20:43] yeah ... but for a linux noob like me kinda confusing sometimes [20:44] ok ... i have a screen in the console that tells me something about a license agreement ??? [20:44] ok [20:44] enter doesnt work [20:44] you have to accept that EULA [20:44] use tab key [20:44] to navigate [20:45] oh damn ... forgot about that way to navigate ... [20:46] :-) [20:47] umino, do you have windows shares in your home lan [20:47] lots ... this box i'm sitting on is the ONLY one running linux [20:47] umino, sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends [20:48] and then ? can i share files over the network with my windose machines ? [20:48] well, atleast you can connect to window shares ;) [20:48] cool [20:49] ok .. done [20:49] and now just start chromium and see if it works ... or is there something else to do [20:49] ? [20:50] Sat22:40 and restart your browser and head to the site http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml [20:50] jep ... works ... [20:50] thanx a lot [20:50] np [20:50] hope you enjoy your lubuntu [20:51] well ... basically it's one more try on linux out of curiousity [20:53] but with ubuntu i'm already more comfortable than other linux dirstos i tried over the years [20:54] the only thing is that running ubuntu on some old 1ghz machine with less than 512mb RAM is a pain in the arse [20:54] lubuntu aint the easiest choise, but lightest [20:54] yep ... [20:54] umino, running anything with under 512MB is pain in the [20:54]