[00:03]  * yofel wonders why launchpad always breaks when hggdh tries to use it
[00:03] <yofel> my bug reports usually come trough
[00:09] <coz_> hey guys ... ok after installing nvidia driver   i now get    Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap   although I dont think it is dierectly related to nvidia
[00:09] <hggdh> yofel: it is personal, I think
[00:11] <yofel> coz_: maybe set gfxpayload to text (GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in /etc/default/grub, or add 'set gfxpayload=text' to the grub kernel settings on a new line)
[00:12] <coz_> yofel,  for gnome-terminal?
[00:12] <yofel> that's gnome-terminal that gives you the error?
[00:12] <coz_> yofel,  yes
[00:12] <coz_> let me screenshot it
[00:12] <yofel> oh, don't know then o.O
[00:13] <coz_> yofel,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot-cosimo321%40coz%3A%20%7E.png
[00:13] <yofel> well, I certainly don't have a /etc/termcap here
[00:13] <yofel> konsole works still fine
[00:13] <coz_> mm  I could install kde  but I dont want to :)
[00:13] <yofel> try xterm?
[00:14] <coz_> will hold on
[00:14] <coz_> yofel,  that works
[00:15] <yofel> hm latest vte update was on Jan 3rd, maybe it's gtk3 breakage
[00:16] <coz_> could be... this is a fresh install too ...but I dont want to do updates  for fear the "monitor out of range " issue is still there
[00:16] <alex_mayorga> my AltGr dead keys are indeed dead :(
[00:16] <alex_mayorga> can't accent anymore, anyone else?
[00:17] <lucent> upgrade from maverick to natty, and there's some fun dbus related errors with PolicyKit
[00:17] <yofel> dead keys work fine, I did tell keyboard-configuration to use no deadkeys though when it asked me
[00:17] <lucent> is that a common question?
[00:19] <alex_mayorga> yofel: how can I tell if my altgr is mapped correctly?
[00:20] <yofel> not sure, for me my gui session still worked, but my login screen an ttys were broken
[00:21] <jMCg> There is no /etc/termcap in Ubuntu.
[00:22] <jMCg> i.galic@phoenix ~ % apt-file search /etc/termcap
[00:22] <alex_mayorga> seems to be back now, but now the LED for Srcoll Lock is always on, weird
[00:22] <BUGabundo> !search /etc/termcap
[00:22] <BUGabundo> !find termcap
[00:25] <alex_mayorga> 117 upgraded packages ahead, any known breakage?
[00:26] <BUGabundo> not here alex_mayorga
[00:26] <BUGabundo> just pidgin
[00:26] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: thanks
[00:27] <yofel> latest grub fell apart on my raid though
[00:28] <hggdh> alex_mayorga: only if you are an user of the bcmwl kernel module
[00:31] <alex_mayorga> hggdh: no broadcom card here as far as I can tell
[00:32] <hggdh> then you should be good
[00:33] <alex_mayorga> hggdh: thanks
[00:35] <bjsnider> coz_, have you got something in your .bashrc file about /etc/termcap?
[00:35] <coz_> bjsnider,  let me check
[00:36] <coz_> bjsnider,  no...nothing
[00:39] <moreati> Hello all, I'm seeing a build error when installing the dkms package bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82 on kernel 2.6.37-12-generic (both latest natty). Before I file a bug could anyone try the install and confirm the behaviour?
[00:40] <coz_> moreati,  are you using the script for this istallation>>?? and I am assuming you are trying to compile   compiz 0.9.x ...yes?
[00:40] <yofel> coz_: he said bcmwl-kernel-source
[00:41] <yofel> moreati: hggdh had that too
[00:41] <moreati> coz_: no, it's a broadcom wifi driver
[00:41] <coz_> ah
[00:41] <coz_> sorry  trying to do too many things at one time
[00:41] <coz_> and I am thinking I was on #compiz ...sorry guys
[00:41] <moreati> yofel: cheers, I'll check for a bug on lp, and file if none present
[00:42] <yofel> depending on the error maybe bug 700135
[00:43] <moreati> yeah that's the one, problem with wl_attach()
[01:07] <bjsnider> coz_, log out, log into the guest account and try launching the terminal from there. note if the message appears. if it does, the problem is system-wide and it's likely nothing you did. if not you have a userland issue.
[01:07] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah fresh in stall... I am doing support in #compiz .. let me do that a bit later   yes?
[01:08] <bjsnider> no
[01:10] <coz_> ooo
[01:10] <coz_> ok I think I am done there hold on
[01:15] <coz_> bjsnider,   same thing in guest account
[01:16] <coz_> ???
[01:16] <coz_> how the heck
[01:16] <bjsnider> then i'm sure it will be fixed in a future update
[01:17] <coz_> bjsnider,  so the user account apparenlty is fine... this has happend over and again  ...each time I install natty...install nvidia drivers  I get same error
[01:17] <coz_> bjsnider,  I have no doubt   I am just concerned about updating  waiting for confimation that the "monitor out of range"  issue was fixed
[01:21] <SamuraiAlba> Is there a fix for "cannot reserve mmio region"?
[01:35] <sanal_madatheth> hi all
[01:43] <SamuraiAlba> Ni hao
[03:30] <Ahmuck> how do i report 11.04 bugs?
[03:30] <bazhang> !bugs
[03:35] <KM0201> KM0201> is there a way to log into an Ubuntu install(on a hard drive) from a live cd, via terminal.. so i can update grub...
[03:35] <KM0201> i was thinking chroot or something, but i'm not really sure
[03:38] <psusi> KM0201, yea, you can do it with chroot, but why not boot the hd?
[03:38] <KM0201> psusi: its difficult to explain, but i will try to summarize quickly
[03:39] <KM0201> he is attempting to install to an internal hard drive, w/ a usb, and its detecting the usb as sda, and the hard drive as sdb... well, when he reboots(w/o the usb).. it is looking for sdb, instead of usda.. and it errors out
[03:39] <KM0201> psusi: so what i'm thinking, if i could "log in" to the drive, and run update-grub, it should be ok
[03:40] <psusi> KM0201, that's not a problem on recent releases... grub searches for disks by uuid
[03:40] <KM0201> we've re-done grub by UUID
[03:40] <KM0201> it still errors out
[03:40] <psusi> what is the error?
[03:40] <KM0201> oh wait a minute.
[03:40] <KM0201> hang on
[03:41] <KM0201> i think i figured out the prob...
[03:41] <KM0201> when i reinstalled grub, using the UUID... i chose /dev/sda (which is the usb).. also explains why his usb installer isn't booting now..lol
[03:42] <Ahmuck> so, the link for reporting bugs is through some gui.  this was an aptitude update that failed
[03:42] <Ahmuck> command line
[03:42] <Ahmuck> guess i could report it agains aptitude
[03:42] <KM0201> psusi: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1323/p00115.jpg
[03:43] <psusi> KM0201, if you just do a normal install, if the internal disk is sdb and the usb is sda, it should default to installing grub to sdb, and this will work fine when you reboot
[03:43] <KM0201> psusi: it hasn't...
[03:44] <psusi> KM0201, that's not a grub problem... that's the kernel saying it can't find the root fs that matches that UUID
[03:44] <psusi> KM0201, see what blkid finds
[03:44] <KM0201> psusi: did, it matches
[03:45] <Ahmuck> well, got another bug.  apport is not on 11.04, and after installation, it fails to start, so the bug reporter is borked.  guess i'll report the bug report is a bug
[03:45] <psusi> KM0201, and you see that UUID if you ls /dev/disk/by-uuid?  what does blkid say for the type of that partition, and what is the block device?  /dev/sda1?
[03:46] <KM0201> psusi: yes, thts why i thought it was a grub problem to be truthful
[03:47] <Ahmuck> heh, or not.  /me trundles off into oblivion
[03:48] <psusi> KM0201, if ls /dev/disk/by-uuid shows that UUID, then try to just exit and see if it boots
[03:48] <KM0201> ok
[03:58] <dooglus> !java
[03:58] <dooglus> aah - !partner - that was my mistake.  thanks ubottu
[04:07] <dooglus> !partner
[04:39] <dooglus> so can I get the sun java jdk for natty?
[04:39] <dooglus> the repo is empty
[04:39] <dooglus> (the partner one)
[04:39] <Volkodav> I change the browser in preffered apps but no effect ? Is that just me ?
[04:40] <dooglus> Volkodav: I found the same
[04:41] <dooglus> Volkodav: my workaround was to put a script in ~/bin and add ~/bin to my PATH
[04:41] <Volkodav> ok i am not alone
[04:41] <dooglus> Volkodav: make a script ~/bin/firefox with:
[04:41] <dooglus> #!/bin/sh
[04:42] <dooglus> /usr/bin/firefox "$@"
[04:42] <dooglus> in it.  seems ubuntu always wants to run firefox, but doesn't check which one
[04:42] <dooglus> so you can replace it with your own script
[04:42] <Volkodav> cool
[04:42] <dooglus> and replace the /usr/bin/firefox bit in your script with whatever you want to run
[04:43] <dooglus> you'll need to chmod +x ~/bin/firefox and prepend ~/bin to your PATH environment variable
[05:17] <donnie> Can you install natty with brtfs root and no ext3/4 /boot partition yet?
[05:18] <donnie> Installer says that default installer does not support a brtfs boot partition
[05:27] <donniezazen> hi
[07:13] <coz_> good day
[07:24] <Ohelig> ok so I looked at the bottom of the log in screen for the settings button and couldn't find it
[09:16] <ironsight> I just updated today, anyone getting gnome-panel loading with unity on the bottom?
[10:04] <qzio> no, but for me, all applets crashes upon restart. I -always- need to re-add them to the gnome-panel (using ubuntu classic)
[12:35] <olmari> Hello, I'd have an idea for Nattys new "sidepanel"
[12:36] <olmari> Simpliest: why not use Docky for it :)
[12:36] <bazhang> !brainstorm | olmari
[12:36] <olmari> roget
[12:36] <olmari> s/roget/roger
[12:50] <Amaranth> olmari: The docky developer is on the unity team :)
[12:54] <olmari> Amaranth: =)
[12:54] <olmari> well... just seems stoopid to develop "the same" all over again :)
[12:55] <olmari> unless there is something else why stuff wouldn't work OOTB :)
[12:57] <olmari> and/or if unity is much more than the dockbar and it just comes with it =)
[12:59] <evilvish> heh, all the different dock developers are on the Unity team ;p
[12:59] <evilvish> awn, docky, cario
[13:00] <olmari> mm well... if unity docklet will be anything like docky when time comes, then all cool.. after all, we are somewhere on alpha 1 for now =)
[13:04] <scizzo-> olmari: many times developers wants to start over to get the API better and so on. you can take the old gnome desktop and difference it with 2.0 gnome as a good example.
[13:06] <olmari> yeah :)
[13:07] <Amaranth> olmari: unity's dock will have the features from docky they deem appropriate
[13:07] <Amaranth> docky itself is a bit of a kitchen sink affair
[13:07] <Amaranth> oh, and is written in a different programming language
[13:07] <Amaranth> and it's designed to run inside compiz
[13:08] <Amaranth> err, isn't
[13:11] <olmari> mm well... maybe I'll just give it time :D
[13:24] <scizzo-> Amaranth: hmmm docky was python right?
[13:24] <Amaranth> scizzo-: no, C#
[13:25] <scizzo-> Amaranth: aaa
[14:17] <ebischoff> Hello people and happy new year. I installed natty on two machines, a mac and a pc. No big problem, excepted that on the PC kdm "freezes" during one minute, making very hard to type or move the mouse pointer. After that delay, everything returns to normal. If I ssh from another machine I don't see any process eating all the CPU (system is 99% idle), which is quite weird.
[14:18] <ebischoff> I'm using nv driver on that machine (no way to use nouveau on my nvidia video card)
[14:18] <penguin42> ebischoff: It freezes for a minute and then carries on?
[14:18] <ebischoff> yes exactly.
[14:19] <penguin42> hmm - it might be worth checking dmesg or /var/log/messages while it's hanging if you can
[14:19] <ebischoff> during the freeze at some time i have control for one second or two, and freezes again. it's not a complete freeze.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:20] <ebischoff> oh yes i'm stupid, i only checked /var/log/Xorg0.log, not dmesg or messages. Hold on.
[14:20] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Afternoon
[14:20] <BluesKaj> 'morning  penguin42
[14:20] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:20] <ebischoff> yes i can do it while it freezes, it's enough to ssh from another machine, it seems to affect only the graphic mode
[14:24] <ebischoff> nothing really suspect in dmesg, excepted for a lot of apparmor messages that weren't there at maverick times
[14:25] <ebischoff> and it's ALLOWED operations so i think it's not relevant
[14:27] <penguin42> odd
[14:27] <penguin42> not sure if there is a log for kdm itself
[14:27] <ebischoff> there is...
[14:29] <ebischoff> and quite a lot of potentially interesting stuff in it
[14:29] <ebischoff> I'll remove it, reboot, and when i return here i'll pastebin it for you
[14:30] <ebischoff> (currently there are too many kdm sessions in it, due to my tests, they'll complicate the analysis)
[14:30] <ebischoff> rebooting, see you in a few minutes penguin42
[14:38] <ebischoff> ok I redid the test. First, I told you rubbish before, penguin42. The ssh session itself freezes, that's why "top" does not show me any processes that eat the CPU. It's just because I can see processes precisely when it does *not* freeze.
[14:38] <penguin42> ah ok
[14:38] <ebischoff> second, the "strange" things are still in kdm.log. I'll pastebin them
[14:40] <ebischoff> http://pastebin.com/D4KNkRyR
[14:41] <ebischoff> dbus problem ?
[14:41]  * penguin42 waits for firefox
[14:42] <ebischoff> eric@ns:~/internal/config$ service dbus status
[14:42] <ebischoff> dbus start/running, process 993
[14:42] <ebischoff> race problem? dbus slower than X + kdm ?
[14:43] <ebischoff> I'll be back in a few minutes, I have a christmas tree to bring down...
[14:43] <penguin42> possible I guess - don't know how that's all supposed to start up
[14:52] <ebischoff> ok i'm back
[15:04] <ebischoff> dbus is already started when the system freezes. So it's not a race condition.
[15:08] <ebischoff> ok, i give up. no idea what it is. i'll stay here in case someone wants me to do tests.
[15:24] <coz_> any issues with current updates?
[15:25] <ebischoff> a freeze at kdm time, which goes away as it appeared
[15:29] <Volkodav> coz_: none here
[15:30] <ebischoff> also had to set the console keyboard back to french in /etc/default/keyboard (after a dist-upgrade from maverick)
[15:40] <coz_> Volkodav,   ok thanks
[15:40] <coz_> Volkodav,   did you restart?  and which video card do you have?
[15:42] <Volkodav> no restart - nvidia GS8400
[15:42] <ebischoff> i have a nvidia card, nv driver
[15:49] <coz_> Volkodav,   mm that is my  fear... last two installs  I got "monitor out of range'  after updates and couldnt get in
[15:49] <Volkodav> what is your card
[15:49] <Volkodav> did you try the proprietary driver instead of nv ?
[15:49] <coz_> Volkodav,  so I did updates again today   and fear the same may occur  ...the curious t hing is with a 7600gt  installed I get the "monitor out of range"  if I swap that out with a 6600gt  all works well...go figure
[15:50] <coz_> Volkodav,  always the proprietary one
[15:50] <Volkodav> hmm
[18:24] <Cork[home]> is there anywhere to get a netboot cd for 11.04 a1 ?
[18:46] <DexterF> hi
[18:47] <DexterF> what's the current path with ubuntu regarding X/Wayland?
[18:47] <DexterF> last I heard Wayland is supposed to become the primary video system in 11.04 already - true?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> no
[18:51] <charlie-tca> rumor only
[19:33] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:33] <penguin42> Hey Bugs
[20:11] <coz_> ok guys.. did update and reboot with same problem... monitor out of range... with 7600gt  however   I  changed the video card to 6600gt and all works well
[20:12] <coz_> the 7600gt is fine and always works but not with natty 's updates o0
[20:13] <coz_> temp on the 6600gt ranges  fro 60  up  in degrees  the 7600gt  stays around 40 degrees
[20:13] <yofel> maybe it's the 7600gt + nvidia driver + new grub settings
[20:13] <coz_> yofel,  its something.. it works fine if I dont do updates to natty
[20:14] <coz_> yofel,  I have already read a few bug reports about this  but  reading them all on launchpad is painfully slow  so I stopped :)
[20:14] <yofel> try to set gfxpayload to text maybe
[20:15] <coz_> yofel,  the  nvdia-current. grub-fgxpaylod  ...yes?
[20:15] <yofel> bug 686070
[20:16] <yofel> coz_: set 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default/grub, or edit grub.cfg and add a line with gfxpayload=text to the boot options
[20:16] <penguin42> it's almost a throw back to the Maverick alphas
[20:17] <yofel> ah, it's 'set gfxpayload=text' http://paste.ubuntu.com/551899/ coz_
[20:17] <yofel> actually it's even more, maverick we only set gfxpayload, now some more vbe settings were changed
[20:18] <coz_> yofel,  what would the  'gfxpayload-keep " do?
[20:19] <yofel> set the kernel to grapics mode so the framebuffer gets better access to the card I think, which confuses some graphics drivers
[20:19] <yofel> *graphics mode
[20:19] <coz_> mm
[20:19] <coz_> yofel,  so I actually have to add that line to /etc/default/grub    ...yes?
[20:19] <yofel> and it's gfxpayload=keep, it's a setting, not a command
[20:20] <yofel> coz_: the 'GRUB_G...' one yes
[20:20] <coz_> ok
[20:20] <coz_> ok added  now to shutdown and try the origial video card   be back leter
[20:20] <yofel> don't forget update-grub
[20:34] <cozziemoto> well that didnt work
[20:35] <cozziemoto> now getting symbol not found
[20:41] <yofel> :/
[20:41] <yofel> you did run update-grub right?
[20:58] <cozziemoto> yofel,  yeah  but something went wrong apparently
[20:58] <cozziemoto> yofel,  i will start again and i wont update this time
[22:38] <alex_mayorga> anyone that has hedgewars installed?
[22:39] <alex_mayorga> looks like the icon for it is missing
[22:39] <BUGabundo> I used to play it
[22:39] <BUGabundo> but not recently
[22:45] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: can you check if you have the icon?
[22:45] <BUGabundo> don't have it installed
[22:45] <BUGabundo> for a couple releases
[22:47] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: I guess you won't install it just to look for an icon, right?
[22:47] <BUGabundo> eheh :)
[22:48] <yofel> I could try
[22:50] <yofel> indeed, the icon is missing in the new version
[22:53] <alex_mayorga> yofel: can you bug it?
[22:54] <yofel> can't you? I already removed it again
[22:55] <BUGabundo> haahah
[23:06] <alex_mayorga> yofel: sure "ubuntu-bug -p hedgewars" right?
[23:06] <yofel> yeah, without the -p though, not needed
[23:06] <yofel> (and deprecated)
[23:09] <alex_mayorga> will report when I get back