| * yofel wonders why launchpad always breaks when hggdh tries to use it | 00:03 | |
| yofel | my bug reports usually come trough | 00:03 |
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| coz_ | hey guys ... ok after installing nvidia driver i now get Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap although I dont think it is dierectly related to nvidia | 00:09 |
| hggdh | yofel: it is personal, I think | 00:09 |
| yofel | coz_: maybe set gfxpayload to text (GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in /etc/default/grub, or add 'set gfxpayload=text' to the grub kernel settings on a new line) | 00:11 |
| coz_ | yofel, for gnome-terminal? | 00:12 |
| yofel | that's gnome-terminal that gives you the error? | 00:12 |
| coz_ | yofel, yes | 00:12 |
| coz_ | let me screenshot it | 00:12 |
| yofel | oh, don't know then o.O | 00:12 |
| coz_ | yofel, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot-cosimo321%40coz%3A%20%7E.png | 00:13 |
| yofel | well, I certainly don't have a /etc/termcap here | 00:13 |
| yofel | konsole works still fine | 00:13 |
| coz_ | mm I could install kde but I dont want to :) | 00:13 |
| yofel | try xterm? | 00:13 |
| coz_ | will hold on | 00:14 |
| coz_ | yofel, that works | 00:14 |
| yofel | hm latest vte update was on Jan 3rd, maybe it's gtk3 breakage | 00:15 |
| coz_ | could be... this is a fresh install too ...but I dont want to do updates for fear the "monitor out of range " issue is still there | 00:16 |
| alex_mayorga | my AltGr dead keys are indeed dead :( | 00:16 |
| alex_mayorga | can't accent anymore, anyone else? | 00:16 |
| lucent | upgrade from maverick to natty, and there's some fun dbus related errors with PolicyKit | 00:17 |
| yofel | dead keys work fine, I did tell keyboard-configuration to use no deadkeys though when it asked me | 00:17 |
| lucent | is that a common question? | 00:17 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: how can I tell if my altgr is mapped correctly? | 00:19 |
| yofel | not sure, for me my gui session still worked, but my login screen an ttys were broken | 00:20 |
| jMCg | There is no /etc/termcap in Ubuntu. | 00:21 |
| jMCg | i.galic@phoenix ~ % apt-file search /etc/termcap | 00:22 |
| alex_mayorga | seems to be back now, but now the LED for Srcoll Lock is always on, weird | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | !search /etc/termcap | 00:22 |
| ubottu | Found: | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | !find termcap | 00:22 |
| ubottu | File termcap found in bash-doc, elks-libc, jvim-doc, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5-dev, libvte-common, manpages, manpages-de, manpages-es, manpages-fr (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=termcap&mode=&suite=natty&arch=any | 00:23 |
| alex_mayorga | 117 upgraded packages ahead, any known breakage? | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | not here alex_mayorga | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | just pidgin | 00:26 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: thanks | 00:26 |
| yofel | latest grub fell apart on my raid though | 00:27 |
| hggdh | alex_mayorga: only if you are an user of the bcmwl kernel module | 00:28 |
| alex_mayorga | hggdh: no broadcom card here as far as I can tell | 00:31 |
| hggdh | then you should be good | 00:32 |
| alex_mayorga | hggdh: thanks | 00:33 |
| bjsnider | coz_, have you got something in your .bashrc file about /etc/termcap? | 00:35 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, let me check | 00:35 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, no...nothing | 00:36 |
| moreati | Hello all, I'm seeing a build error when installing the dkms package bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82 on kernel 2.6.37-12-generic (both latest natty). Before I file a bug could anyone try the install and confirm the behaviour? | 00:39 |
| coz_ | moreati, are you using the script for this istallation>>?? and I am assuming you are trying to compile compiz 0.9.x ...yes? | 00:40 |
| yofel | coz_: he said bcmwl-kernel-source | 00:40 |
| yofel | moreati: hggdh had that too | 00:41 |
| moreati | coz_: no, it's a broadcom wifi driver | 00:41 |
| coz_ | ah | 00:41 |
| coz_ | sorry trying to do too many things at one time | 00:41 |
| coz_ | and I am thinking I was on #compiz ...sorry guys | 00:41 |
| moreati | yofel: cheers, I'll check for a bug on lp, and file if none present | 00:41 |
| yofel | depending on the error maybe bug 700135 | 00:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 700135 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "package bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: bcmwl kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700135 | 00:42 |
| moreati | yeah that's the one, problem with wl_attach() | 00:43 |
| bjsnider | coz_, log out, log into the guest account and try launching the terminal from there. note if the message appears. if it does, the problem is system-wide and it's likely nothing you did. if not you have a userland issue. | 01:07 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, yeah fresh in stall... I am doing support in #compiz .. let me do that a bit later yes? | 01:07 |
| bjsnider | no | 01:08 |
| coz_ | ooo | 01:10 |
| coz_ | ok I think I am done there hold on | 01:10 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, same thing in guest account | 01:15 |
| coz_ | ??? | 01:16 |
| coz_ | how the heck | 01:16 |
| bjsnider | then i'm sure it will be fixed in a future update | 01:16 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, so the user account apparenlty is fine... this has happend over and again ...each time I install natty...install nvidia drivers I get same error | 01:17 |
| coz_ | bjsnider, I have no doubt I am just concerned about updating waiting for confimation that the "monitor out of range" issue was fixed | 01:17 |
| SamuraiAlba | Is there a fix for "cannot reserve mmio region"? | 01:21 |
| sanal_madatheth | hi all | 01:35 |
| SamuraiAlba | Ni hao | 01:43 |
| === 13WAAZIX9 is now known as BajK_ | ||
| Ahmuck | how do i report 11.04 bugs? | 03:30 |
| bazhang | !bugs | 03:30 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 03:30 |
| KM0201 | KM0201> is there a way to log into an Ubuntu install(on a hard drive) from a live cd, via terminal.. so i can update grub... | 03:35 |
| KM0201 | i was thinking chroot or something, but i'm not really sure | 03:35 |
| psusi | KM0201, yea, you can do it with chroot, but why not boot the hd? | 03:38 |
| KM0201 | psusi: its difficult to explain, but i will try to summarize quickly | 03:38 |
| KM0201 | he is attempting to install to an internal hard drive, w/ a usb, and its detecting the usb as sda, and the hard drive as sdb... well, when he reboots(w/o the usb).. it is looking for sdb, instead of usda.. and it errors out | 03:39 |
| KM0201 | psusi: so what i'm thinking, if i could "log in" to the drive, and run update-grub, it should be ok | 03:39 |
| psusi | KM0201, that's not a problem on recent releases... grub searches for disks by uuid | 03:40 |
| KM0201 | we've re-done grub by UUID | 03:40 |
| KM0201 | it still errors out | 03:40 |
| psusi | what is the error? | 03:40 |
| KM0201 | oh wait a minute. | 03:40 |
| KM0201 | hang on | 03:40 |
| KM0201 | i think i figured out the prob... | 03:41 |
| KM0201 | when i reinstalled grub, using the UUID... i chose /dev/sda (which is the usb).. also explains why his usb installer isn't booting now..lol | 03:41 |
| Ahmuck | so, the link for reporting bugs is through some gui. this was an aptitude update that failed | 03:42 |
| Ahmuck | command line | 03:42 |
| Ahmuck | guess i could report it agains aptitude | 03:42 |
| KM0201 | psusi: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1323/p00115.jpg | 03:42 |
| psusi | KM0201, if you just do a normal install, if the internal disk is sdb and the usb is sda, it should default to installing grub to sdb, and this will work fine when you reboot | 03:43 |
| KM0201 | psusi: it hasn't... | 03:43 |
| psusi | KM0201, that's not a grub problem... that's the kernel saying it can't find the root fs that matches that UUID | 03:44 |
| psusi | KM0201, see what blkid finds | 03:44 |
| KM0201 | psusi: did, it matches | 03:44 |
| Ahmuck | well, got another bug. apport is not on 11.04, and after installation, it fails to start, so the bug reporter is borked. guess i'll report the bug report is a bug | 03:45 |
| psusi | KM0201, and you see that UUID if you ls /dev/disk/by-uuid? what does blkid say for the type of that partition, and what is the block device? /dev/sda1? | 03:45 |
| KM0201 | psusi: yes, thts why i thought it was a grub problem to be truthful | 03:46 |
| Ahmuck | heh, or not. /me trundles off into oblivion | 03:47 |
| psusi | KM0201, if ls /dev/disk/by-uuid shows that UUID, then try to just exit and see if it boots | 03:48 |
| KM0201 | ok | 03:48 |
| dooglus | !java | 03:58 |
| ubottu | To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. | 03:58 |
| dooglus | aah - !partner - that was my mistake. thanks ubottu | 03:58 |
| dooglus | !partner | 04:07 |
| ubottu | Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » | 04:07 |
| dooglus | so can I get the sun java jdk for natty? | 04:39 |
| dooglus | the repo is empty | 04:39 |
| dooglus | (the partner one) | 04:39 |
| Volkodav | I change the browser in preffered apps but no effect ? Is that just me ? | 04:39 |
| dooglus | Volkodav: I found the same | 04:40 |
| dooglus | Volkodav: my workaround was to put a script in ~/bin and add ~/bin to my PATH | 04:41 |
| Volkodav | ok i am not alone | 04:41 |
| dooglus | Volkodav: make a script ~/bin/firefox with: | 04:41 |
| dooglus | #!/bin/sh | 04:41 |
| dooglus | /usr/bin/firefox "$@" | 04:42 |
| dooglus | in it. seems ubuntu always wants to run firefox, but doesn't check which one | 04:42 |
| dooglus | so you can replace it with your own script | 04:42 |
| Volkodav | cool | 04:42 |
| dooglus | and replace the /usr/bin/firefox bit in your script with whatever you want to run | 04:42 |
| dooglus | you'll need to chmod +x ~/bin/firefox and prepend ~/bin to your PATH environment variable | 04:43 |
| donnie | Can you install natty with brtfs root and no ext3/4 /boot partition yet? | 05:17 |
| donnie | Installer says that default installer does not support a brtfs boot partition | 05:18 |
| donniezazen | hi | 05:27 |
| === Sriram is now known as Sriram|AFK | ||
| === Sriram|AFK is now known as Sriram | ||
| coz_ | good day | 07:13 |
| Ohelig | ok so I looked at the bottom of the log in screen for the settings button and couldn't find it | 07:24 |
| ironsight | I just updated today, anyone getting gnome-panel loading with unity on the bottom? | 09:16 |
| qzio | no, but for me, all applets crashes upon restart. I -always- need to re-add them to the gnome-panel (using ubuntu classic) | 10:04 |
| === 5EXAB0PYG is now known as [fred] | ||
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| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
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| olmari | Hello, I'd have an idea for Nattys new "sidepanel" | 12:35 |
| olmari | Simpliest: why not use Docky for it :) | 12:36 |
| bazhang | !brainstorm | olmari | 12:36 |
| ubottu | olmari: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! | 12:36 |
| olmari | roget | 12:36 |
| olmari | s/roget/roger | 12:36 |
| Amaranth | olmari: The docky developer is on the unity team :) | 12:50 |
| olmari | Amaranth: =) | 12:54 |
| olmari | well... just seems stoopid to develop "the same" all over again :) | 12:54 |
| olmari | unless there is something else why stuff wouldn't work OOTB :) | 12:55 |
| olmari | and/or if unity is much more than the dockbar and it just comes with it =) | 12:57 |
| evilvish | heh, all the different dock developers are on the Unity team ;p | 12:59 |
| evilvish | awn, docky, cario | 12:59 |
| olmari | mm well... if unity docklet will be anything like docky when time comes, then all cool.. after all, we are somewhere on alpha 1 for now =) | 13:00 |
| scizzo- | olmari: many times developers wants to start over to get the API better and so on. you can take the old gnome desktop and difference it with 2.0 gnome as a good example. | 13:04 |
| olmari | yeah :) | 13:06 |
| Amaranth | olmari: unity's dock will have the features from docky they deem appropriate | 13:07 |
| Amaranth | docky itself is a bit of a kitchen sink affair | 13:07 |
| Amaranth | oh, and is written in a different programming language | 13:07 |
| Amaranth | and it's designed to run inside compiz | 13:07 |
| Amaranth | err, isn't | 13:08 |
| olmari | mm well... maybe I'll just give it time :D | 13:11 |
| scizzo- | Amaranth: hmmm docky was python right? | 13:24 |
| Amaranth | scizzo-: no, C# | 13:24 |
| scizzo- | Amaranth: aaa | 13:25 |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi | ||
| ebischoff | Hello people and happy new year. I installed natty on two machines, a mac and a pc. No big problem, excepted that on the PC kdm "freezes" during one minute, making very hard to type or move the mouse pointer. After that delay, everything returns to normal. If I ssh from another machine I don't see any process eating all the CPU (system is 99% idle), which is quite weird. | 14:17 |
| ebischoff | I'm using nv driver on that machine (no way to use nouveau on my nvidia video card) | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | ebischoff: It freezes for a minute and then carries on? | 14:18 |
| ebischoff | yes exactly. | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | hmm - it might be worth checking dmesg or /var/log/messages while it's hanging if you can | 14:19 |
| ebischoff | during the freeze at some time i have control for one second or two, and freezes again. it's not a complete freeze. | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 14:19 |
| ebischoff | oh yes i'm stupid, i only checked /var/log/Xorg0.log, not dmesg or messages. Hold on. | 14:20 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Afternoon | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | 'morning penguin42 | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | :) | 14:20 |
| ebischoff | yes i can do it while it freezes, it's enough to ssh from another machine, it seems to affect only the graphic mode | 14:20 |
| ebischoff | nothing really suspect in dmesg, excepted for a lot of apparmor messages that weren't there at maverick times | 14:24 |
| ebischoff | and it's ALLOWED operations so i think it's not relevant | 14:25 |
| penguin42 | odd | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | not sure if there is a log for kdm itself | 14:27 |
| ebischoff | there is... | 14:27 |
| ebischoff | and quite a lot of potentially interesting stuff in it | 14:29 |
| ebischoff | I'll remove it, reboot, and when i return here i'll pastebin it for you | 14:29 |
| ebischoff | (currently there are too many kdm sessions in it, due to my tests, they'll complicate the analysis) | 14:30 |
| ebischoff | rebooting, see you in a few minutes penguin42 | 14:30 |
| ebischoff | ok I redid the test. First, I told you rubbish before, penguin42. The ssh session itself freezes, that's why "top" does not show me any processes that eat the CPU. It's just because I can see processes precisely when it does *not* freeze. | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 14:38 |
| ebischoff | second, the "strange" things are still in kdm.log. I'll pastebin them | 14:38 |
| ebischoff | http://pastebin.com/D4KNkRyR | 14:40 |
| ebischoff | dbus problem ? | 14:41 |
| * penguin42 waits for firefox | 14:41 | |
| ebischoff | eric@ns:~/internal/config$ service dbus status | 14:42 |
| ebischoff | dbus start/running, process 993 | 14:42 |
| ebischoff | race problem? dbus slower than X + kdm ? | 14:42 |
| ebischoff | I'll be back in a few minutes, I have a christmas tree to bring down... | 14:43 |
| penguin42 | possible I guess - don't know how that's all supposed to start up | 14:43 |
| ebischoff | ok i'm back | 14:52 |
| ebischoff | dbus is already started when the system freezes. So it's not a race condition. | 15:04 |
| ebischoff | ok, i give up. no idea what it is. i'll stay here in case someone wants me to do tests. | 15:08 |
| coz_ | any issues with current updates? | 15:24 |
| ebischoff | a freeze at kdm time, which goes away as it appeared | 15:25 |
| Volkodav | coz_: none here | 15:29 |
| ebischoff | also had to set the console keyboard back to french in /etc/default/keyboard (after a dist-upgrade from maverick) | 15:30 |
| coz_ | Volkodav, ok thanks | 15:40 |
| coz_ | Volkodav, did you restart? and which video card do you have? | 15:40 |
| Volkodav | no restart - nvidia GS8400 | 15:42 |
| ebischoff | i have a nvidia card, nv driver | 15:42 |
| coz_ | Volkodav, mm that is my fear... last two installs I got "monitor out of range' after updates and couldnt get in | 15:49 |
| Volkodav | what is your card | 15:49 |
| Volkodav | did you try the proprietary driver instead of nv ? | 15:49 |
| coz_ | Volkodav, so I did updates again today and fear the same may occur ...the curious t hing is with a 7600gt installed I get the "monitor out of range" if I swap that out with a 6600gt all works well...go figure | 15:49 |
| coz_ | Volkodav, always the proprietary one | 15:50 |
| Volkodav | hmm | 15:50 |
| Cork[home] | is there anywhere to get a netboot cd for 11.04 a1 ? | 18:24 |
| DexterF | hi | 18:46 |
| DexterF | what's the current path with ubuntu regarding X/Wayland? | 18:47 |
| DexterF | last I heard Wayland is supposed to become the primary video system in 11.04 already - true? | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | no | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | rumor only | 18:51 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 19:33 |
| penguin42 | Hey Bugs | 19:33 |
| coz_ | ok guys.. did update and reboot with same problem... monitor out of range... with 7600gt however I changed the video card to 6600gt and all works well | 20:11 |
| coz_ | the 7600gt is fine and always works but not with natty 's updates o0 | 20:12 |
| coz_ | temp on the 6600gt ranges fro 60 up in degrees the 7600gt stays around 40 degrees | 20:13 |
| yofel | maybe it's the 7600gt + nvidia driver + new grub settings | 20:13 |
| coz_ | yofel, its something.. it works fine if I dont do updates to natty | 20:13 |
| coz_ | yofel, I have already read a few bug reports about this but reading them all on launchpad is painfully slow so I stopped :) | 20:14 |
| yofel | try to set gfxpayload to text maybe | 20:14 |
| coz_ | yofel, the nvdia-current. grub-fgxpaylod ...yes? | 20:15 |
| yofel | bug 686070 | 20:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 686070 in linux (Ubuntu) "black screen (no more gdm/X server) with nvidia propriatery after gfxpayload=keep activation" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686070 | 20:15 |
| yofel | coz_: set 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default/grub, or edit grub.cfg and add a line with gfxpayload=text to the boot options | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | it's almost a throw back to the Maverick alphas | 20:16 |
| yofel | ah, it's 'set gfxpayload=text' http://paste.ubuntu.com/551899/ coz_ | 20:17 |
| yofel | actually it's even more, maverick we only set gfxpayload, now some more vbe settings were changed | 20:17 |
| coz_ | yofel, what would the 'gfxpayload-keep " do? | 20:18 |
| yofel | set the kernel to grapics mode so the framebuffer gets better access to the card I think, which confuses some graphics drivers | 20:19 |
| yofel | *graphics mode | 20:19 |
| coz_ | mm | 20:19 |
| coz_ | yofel, so I actually have to add that line to /etc/default/grub ...yes? | 20:19 |
| yofel | and it's gfxpayload=keep, it's a setting, not a command | 20:19 |
| yofel | coz_: the 'GRUB_G...' one yes | 20:20 |
| coz_ | ok | 20:20 |
| coz_ | ok added now to shutdown and try the origial video card be back leter | 20:20 |
| yofel | don't forget update-grub | 20:20 |
| cozziemoto | well that didnt work | 20:34 |
| cozziemoto | now getting symbol not found | 20:35 |
| yofel | :/ | 20:41 |
| yofel | you did run update-grub right? | 20:41 |
| cozziemoto | yofel, yeah but something went wrong apparently | 20:58 |
| cozziemoto | yofel, i will start again and i wont update this time | 20:58 |
| alex_mayorga | anyone that has hedgewars installed? | 22:38 |
| alex_mayorga | looks like the icon for it is missing | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | I used to play it | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | but not recently | 22:39 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: can you check if you have the icon? | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | don't have it installed | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | for a couple releases | 22:45 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: I guess you won't install it just to look for an icon, right? | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | eheh :) | 22:47 |
| yofel | I could try | 22:48 |
| yofel | indeed, the icon is missing in the new version | 22:50 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: can you bug it? | 22:53 |
| yofel | can't you? I already removed it again | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | haahah | 22:55 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: sure "ubuntu-bug -p hedgewars" right? | 23:06 |
| yofel | yeah, without the -p though, not needed | 23:06 |
| yofel | (and deprecated) | 23:06 |
| alex_mayorga | will report when I get back | 23:09 |
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