[00:03] * yofel wonders why launchpad always breaks when hggdh tries to use it [00:03] my bug reports usually come trough [00:09] hey guys ... ok after installing nvidia driver i now get Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap although I dont think it is dierectly related to nvidia [00:09] yofel: it is personal, I think [00:11] coz_: maybe set gfxpayload to text (GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in /etc/default/grub, or add 'set gfxpayload=text' to the grub kernel settings on a new line) [00:12] yofel, for gnome-terminal? [00:12] that's gnome-terminal that gives you the error? [00:12] yofel, yes [00:12] let me screenshot it [00:12] oh, don't know then o.O [00:13] yofel, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot-cosimo321%40coz%3A%20%7E.png [00:13] well, I certainly don't have a /etc/termcap here [00:13] konsole works still fine [00:13] mm I could install kde but I dont want to :) [00:13] try xterm? [00:14] will hold on [00:14] yofel, that works [00:15] hm latest vte update was on Jan 3rd, maybe it's gtk3 breakage [00:16] could be... this is a fresh install too ...but I dont want to do updates for fear the "monitor out of range " issue is still there [00:16] my AltGr dead keys are indeed dead :( [00:16] can't accent anymore, anyone else? [00:17] upgrade from maverick to natty, and there's some fun dbus related errors with PolicyKit [00:17] dead keys work fine, I did tell keyboard-configuration to use no deadkeys though when it asked me [00:17] is that a common question? [00:19] yofel: how can I tell if my altgr is mapped correctly? [00:20] not sure, for me my gui session still worked, but my login screen an ttys were broken [00:21] There is no /etc/termcap in Ubuntu. [00:22] i.galic@phoenix ~ % apt-file search /etc/termcap [00:22] seems to be back now, but now the LED for Srcoll Lock is always on, weird [00:22] !search /etc/termcap [00:22] Found: [00:22] !find termcap [00:23] File termcap found in bash-doc, elks-libc, jvim-doc, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5-dev, libvte-common, manpages, manpages-de, manpages-es, manpages-fr (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=termcap&mode=&suite=natty&arch=any [00:25] 117 upgraded packages ahead, any known breakage? [00:26] not here alex_mayorga [00:26] just pidgin [00:26] BUGabundo: thanks [00:27] latest grub fell apart on my raid though [00:28] alex_mayorga: only if you are an user of the bcmwl kernel module [00:31] hggdh: no broadcom card here as far as I can tell [00:32] then you should be good [00:33] hggdh: thanks [00:35] coz_, have you got something in your .bashrc file about /etc/termcap? [00:35] bjsnider, let me check [00:36] bjsnider, no...nothing [00:39] Hello all, I'm seeing a build error when installing the dkms package bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82 on kernel 2.6.37-12-generic (both latest natty). Before I file a bug could anyone try the install and confirm the behaviour? [00:40] moreati, are you using the script for this istallation>>?? and I am assuming you are trying to compile compiz 0.9.x ...yes? [00:40] coz_: he said bcmwl-kernel-source [00:41] moreati: hggdh had that too [00:41] coz_: no, it's a broadcom wifi driver [00:41] ah [00:41] sorry trying to do too many things at one time [00:41] and I am thinking I was on #compiz ...sorry guys [00:41] yofel: cheers, I'll check for a bug on lp, and file if none present [00:42] depending on the error maybe bug 700135 [00:42] Launchpad bug 700135 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "package bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: bcmwl kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700135 [00:43] yeah that's the one, problem with wl_attach() [01:07] coz_, log out, log into the guest account and try launching the terminal from there. note if the message appears. if it does, the problem is system-wide and it's likely nothing you did. if not you have a userland issue. [01:07] bjsnider, yeah fresh in stall... I am doing support in #compiz .. let me do that a bit later yes? [01:08] no [01:10] ooo [01:10] ok I think I am done there hold on [01:15] bjsnider, same thing in guest account [01:16] ??? [01:16] how the heck [01:16] then i'm sure it will be fixed in a future update [01:17] bjsnider, so the user account apparenlty is fine... this has happend over and again ...each time I install natty...install nvidia drivers I get same error [01:17] bjsnider, I have no doubt I am just concerned about updating waiting for confimation that the "monitor out of range" issue was fixed [01:21] Is there a fix for "cannot reserve mmio region"? [01:35] hi all [01:43] Ni hao === 13WAAZIX9 is now known as BajK_ [03:30] how do i report 11.04 bugs? [03:30] !bugs [03:30] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [03:35] KM0201> is there a way to log into an Ubuntu install(on a hard drive) from a live cd, via terminal.. so i can update grub... [03:35] i was thinking chroot or something, but i'm not really sure [03:38] KM0201, yea, you can do it with chroot, but why not boot the hd? [03:38] psusi: its difficult to explain, but i will try to summarize quickly [03:39] he is attempting to install to an internal hard drive, w/ a usb, and its detecting the usb as sda, and the hard drive as sdb... well, when he reboots(w/o the usb).. it is looking for sdb, instead of usda.. and it errors out [03:39] psusi: so what i'm thinking, if i could "log in" to the drive, and run update-grub, it should be ok [03:40] KM0201, that's not a problem on recent releases... grub searches for disks by uuid [03:40] we've re-done grub by UUID [03:40] it still errors out [03:40] what is the error? [03:40] oh wait a minute. [03:40] hang on [03:41] i think i figured out the prob... [03:41] when i reinstalled grub, using the UUID... i chose /dev/sda (which is the usb).. also explains why his usb installer isn't booting now..lol [03:42] so, the link for reporting bugs is through some gui. this was an aptitude update that failed [03:42] command line [03:42] guess i could report it agains aptitude [03:42] psusi: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1323/p00115.jpg [03:43] KM0201, if you just do a normal install, if the internal disk is sdb and the usb is sda, it should default to installing grub to sdb, and this will work fine when you reboot [03:43] psusi: it hasn't... [03:44] KM0201, that's not a grub problem... that's the kernel saying it can't find the root fs that matches that UUID [03:44] KM0201, see what blkid finds [03:44] psusi: did, it matches [03:45] well, got another bug. apport is not on 11.04, and after installation, it fails to start, so the bug reporter is borked. guess i'll report the bug report is a bug [03:45] KM0201, and you see that UUID if you ls /dev/disk/by-uuid? what does blkid say for the type of that partition, and what is the block device? /dev/sda1? [03:46] psusi: yes, thts why i thought it was a grub problem to be truthful [03:47] heh, or not. /me trundles off into oblivion [03:48] KM0201, if ls /dev/disk/by-uuid shows that UUID, then try to just exit and see if it boots [03:48] ok [03:58] !java [03:58] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [03:58] aah - !partner - that was my mistake. thanks ubottu [04:07] !partner [04:07] Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [04:39] so can I get the sun java jdk for natty? [04:39] the repo is empty [04:39] (the partner one) [04:39] I change the browser in preffered apps but no effect ? Is that just me ? [04:40] Volkodav: I found the same [04:41] Volkodav: my workaround was to put a script in ~/bin and add ~/bin to my PATH [04:41] ok i am not alone [04:41] Volkodav: make a script ~/bin/firefox with: [04:41] #!/bin/sh [04:42] /usr/bin/firefox "$@" [04:42] in it. seems ubuntu always wants to run firefox, but doesn't check which one [04:42] so you can replace it with your own script [04:42] cool [04:42] and replace the /usr/bin/firefox bit in your script with whatever you want to run [04:43] you'll need to chmod +x ~/bin/firefox and prepend ~/bin to your PATH environment variable [05:17] Can you install natty with brtfs root and no ext3/4 /boot partition yet? [05:18] Installer says that default installer does not support a brtfs boot partition [05:27] hi === Sriram is now known as Sriram|AFK === Sriram|AFK is now known as Sriram [07:13] good day [07:24] ok so I looked at the bottom of the log in screen for the settings button and couldn't find it [09:16] I just updated today, anyone getting gnome-panel loading with unity on the bottom? [10:04] no, but for me, all applets crashes upon restart. I -always- need to re-add them to the gnome-panel (using ubuntu classic) === 5EXAB0PYG is now known as [fred] === [fred] is now known as fred_2 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === fred_2 is now known as [fred] === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:35] Hello, I'd have an idea for Nattys new "sidepanel" [12:36] Simpliest: why not use Docky for it :) [12:36] !brainstorm | olmari [12:36] olmari: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! [12:36] roget [12:36] s/roget/roger [12:50] olmari: The docky developer is on the unity team :) [12:54] Amaranth: =) [12:54] well... just seems stoopid to develop "the same" all over again :) [12:55] unless there is something else why stuff wouldn't work OOTB :) [12:57] and/or if unity is much more than the dockbar and it just comes with it =) [12:59] heh, all the different dock developers are on the Unity team ;p [12:59] awn, docky, cario [13:00] mm well... if unity docklet will be anything like docky when time comes, then all cool.. after all, we are somewhere on alpha 1 for now =) [13:04] olmari: many times developers wants to start over to get the API better and so on. you can take the old gnome desktop and difference it with 2.0 gnome as a good example. [13:06] yeah :) [13:07] olmari: unity's dock will have the features from docky they deem appropriate [13:07] docky itself is a bit of a kitchen sink affair [13:07] oh, and is written in a different programming language [13:07] and it's designed to run inside compiz [13:08] err, isn't [13:11] mm well... maybe I'll just give it time :D [13:24] Amaranth: hmmm docky was python right? [13:24] scizzo-: no, C# [13:25] Amaranth: aaa === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [14:17] Hello people and happy new year. I installed natty on two machines, a mac and a pc. No big problem, excepted that on the PC kdm "freezes" during one minute, making very hard to type or move the mouse pointer. After that delay, everything returns to normal. If I ssh from another machine I don't see any process eating all the CPU (system is 99% idle), which is quite weird. [14:18] I'm using nv driver on that machine (no way to use nouveau on my nvidia video card) [14:18] ebischoff: It freezes for a minute and then carries on? [14:18] yes exactly. [14:19] hmm - it might be worth checking dmesg or /var/log/messages while it's hanging if you can [14:19] during the freeze at some time i have control for one second or two, and freezes again. it's not a complete freeze. [14:19] Hi folks [14:20] oh yes i'm stupid, i only checked /var/log/Xorg0.log, not dmesg or messages. Hold on. [14:20] BluesKaj: Afternoon [14:20] 'morning penguin42 [14:20] :) [14:20] yes i can do it while it freezes, it's enough to ssh from another machine, it seems to affect only the graphic mode [14:24] nothing really suspect in dmesg, excepted for a lot of apparmor messages that weren't there at maverick times [14:25] and it's ALLOWED operations so i think it's not relevant [14:27] odd [14:27] not sure if there is a log for kdm itself [14:27] there is... [14:29] and quite a lot of potentially interesting stuff in it [14:29] I'll remove it, reboot, and when i return here i'll pastebin it for you [14:30] (currently there are too many kdm sessions in it, due to my tests, they'll complicate the analysis) [14:30] rebooting, see you in a few minutes penguin42 [14:38] ok I redid the test. First, I told you rubbish before, penguin42. The ssh session itself freezes, that's why "top" does not show me any processes that eat the CPU. It's just because I can see processes precisely when it does *not* freeze. [14:38] ah ok [14:38] second, the "strange" things are still in kdm.log. I'll pastebin them [14:40] http://pastebin.com/D4KNkRyR [14:41] dbus problem ? [14:41] * penguin42 waits for firefox [14:42] eric@ns:~/internal/config$ service dbus status [14:42] dbus start/running, process 993 [14:42] race problem? dbus slower than X + kdm ? [14:43] I'll be back in a few minutes, I have a christmas tree to bring down... [14:43] possible I guess - don't know how that's all supposed to start up [14:52] ok i'm back [15:04] dbus is already started when the system freezes. So it's not a race condition. [15:08] ok, i give up. no idea what it is. i'll stay here in case someone wants me to do tests. [15:24] any issues with current updates? [15:25] a freeze at kdm time, which goes away as it appeared [15:29] coz_: none here [15:30] also had to set the console keyboard back to french in /etc/default/keyboard (after a dist-upgrade from maverick) [15:40] Volkodav, ok thanks [15:40] Volkodav, did you restart? and which video card do you have? [15:42] no restart - nvidia GS8400 [15:42] i have a nvidia card, nv driver [15:49] Volkodav, mm that is my fear... last two installs I got "monitor out of range' after updates and couldnt get in [15:49] what is your card [15:49] did you try the proprietary driver instead of nv ? [15:49] Volkodav, so I did updates again today and fear the same may occur ...the curious t hing is with a 7600gt installed I get the "monitor out of range" if I swap that out with a 6600gt all works well...go figure [15:50] Volkodav, always the proprietary one [15:50] hmm [18:24] is there anywhere to get a netboot cd for 11.04 a1 ? [18:46] hi [18:47] what's the current path with ubuntu regarding X/Wayland? [18:47] last I heard Wayland is supposed to become the primary video system in 11.04 already - true? [18:51] no [18:51] rumor only [19:33] evening [19:33] Hey Bugs [20:11] ok guys.. did update and reboot with same problem... monitor out of range... with 7600gt however I changed the video card to 6600gt and all works well [20:12] the 7600gt is fine and always works but not with natty 's updates o0 [20:13] temp on the 6600gt ranges fro 60 up in degrees the 7600gt stays around 40 degrees [20:13] maybe it's the 7600gt + nvidia driver + new grub settings [20:13] yofel, its something.. it works fine if I dont do updates to natty [20:14] yofel, I have already read a few bug reports about this but reading them all on launchpad is painfully slow so I stopped :) [20:14] try to set gfxpayload to text maybe [20:15] yofel, the nvdia-current. grub-fgxpaylod ...yes? [20:15] bug 686070 [20:15] Launchpad bug 686070 in linux (Ubuntu) "black screen (no more gdm/X server) with nvidia propriatery after gfxpayload=keep activation" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686070 [20:16] coz_: set 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default/grub, or edit grub.cfg and add a line with gfxpayload=text to the boot options [20:16] it's almost a throw back to the Maverick alphas [20:17] ah, it's 'set gfxpayload=text' http://paste.ubuntu.com/551899/ coz_ [20:17] actually it's even more, maverick we only set gfxpayload, now some more vbe settings were changed [20:18] yofel, what would the 'gfxpayload-keep " do? [20:19] set the kernel to grapics mode so the framebuffer gets better access to the card I think, which confuses some graphics drivers [20:19] *graphics mode [20:19] mm [20:19] yofel, so I actually have to add that line to /etc/default/grub ...yes? [20:19] and it's gfxpayload=keep, it's a setting, not a command [20:20] coz_: the 'GRUB_G...' one yes [20:20] ok [20:20] ok added now to shutdown and try the origial video card be back leter [20:20] don't forget update-grub [20:34] well that didnt work [20:35] now getting symbol not found [20:41] :/ [20:41] you did run update-grub right? [20:58] yofel, yeah but something went wrong apparently [20:58] yofel, i will start again and i wont update this time [22:38] anyone that has hedgewars installed? [22:39] looks like the icon for it is missing [22:39] I used to play it [22:39] but not recently [22:45] BUGabundo: can you check if you have the icon? [22:45] don't have it installed [22:45] for a couple releases [22:47] BUGabundo: I guess you won't install it just to look for an icon, right? [22:47] eheh :) [22:48] I could try [22:50] indeed, the icon is missing in the new version [22:53] yofel: can you bug it? [22:54] can't you? I already removed it again [22:55] haahah [23:06] yofel: sure "ubuntu-bug -p hedgewars" right? [23:06] yeah, without the -p though, not needed [23:06] (and deprecated) [23:09] will report when I get back