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starsprouthowdy folks00:50
* starsprout taps cyberanger00:51
starsproutyou know how to change kernel boot options in crunchbang?00:51
wrsthello starsprout00:51
starsprouthi wrst00:54
starsprouttryin to get this old aetheros wifi pci card working at my local coffeeshop's new crunchbang machine :-)00:54
wrstcool starsprout any luck?00:55
starsproutcompat_wireless seems to be the agreed upon solution00:55
cyberangerhey starsprout00:55
starsprouthowever, make says "kernel was compiled with CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=n" so it won't build it00:56
starsprouterm, "make" it00:56
starsprouthiya cr00:56
* wrst rejoices00:58
wrstnatty started up00:58
wrstyeah starsprout that certainly sounds like a cyberanger  issue :)00:58
* wrst begins to pull in 200MB of updates it will probably never start again01:00
starsproutyeah, prolly just be easier to buy a usb wireless adapter than try to get this old pci aetheros to run01:00
wrstaetheros i have dealt just a little with them but seemed to be a pain01:01
wrstcrunchbang its based straight up on debian now right?01:02
starsproutyep01:02
wrstok i remember having to blacklist something on ubuntu to get an aetheros of some sort to work but that's been forever ago01:03
starsproutwhat does CONFIG_ITEM=m mean? what's the m? I see y, n and m01:03
starsproutyeah I read about that - blacklist the ath5k - how do I do that?01:03
starsproutdidn't try that yet - I also read compat-wireless was a good way to go, but now I'm trying to rebuild the kernel with wireless_ext=y01:04
wrstin ubuntu it was a simple edit of a config file not sure about debian01:04
wrstoh goodness rebuilding a kernel seems excessive01:05
cyberangerstarsprout: yikes01:07
starsproutlol01:07
starsprouti dunno01:07
starsproutnothing to lose here, just groping my way through.... :-)01:07
starsproutI used to not know a lot about unix that I do know now, so I'm ok asking stupid questions to learn my ways01:08
wrststarsprout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros01:08
wrstthat's the solution for ubuntu01:08
wrstand i know that worked for me01:08
starsproutok I blacklisted them and am rebooting now (seems better than editing the kernel config, heheh)01:14
starsproutheck yeah wrst!!! it worked - wireless networks are available :-D01:15
starsproutAll hail, Linux in Tennessee!!!01:16
wrststarsprout: the easy way is good sometimes ;)01:16
starsproutor something like that01:16
starsproutthanks a lot y'all...01:16
cyberangerwrst: the command line is easy01:17
wrstno prob starsprout01:18
wrstcyberanger: doing whatever tothe kernel isn't!!!!!01:18
starsproutcrunchbang actually looks pretty cool now that I'm using it a bit01:20
starsproutthanks as always y'all.  buh-bye!01:21
chibihogoshinoi like how synaptic tries to fix a deb package but dosnt really do anything01:21
cyberangerwrst: ah, come on, it can be easy01:22
wrstwell that broke wireless and some how my 10.10 install disappeared from grub01:44
wrstchibihogoshino: i guess atleast it tries?01:44
wrstcyberanger: you will not be happy with me02:33
cyberangerwrst: why's that?02:59
cyberangerwrst: what broke your wireless and caused 10.10 to be cleared out of grub?03:00
wrstnatty did all of that, and I'm back to quassel again cyberanger03:07
cyberangershame on natty03:15
wrstyeah cyberanger it has grub 1.99 so its even worse than before i suppose?03:15
cyberangeras for quassel, that's fine, your smartphone just will have to be neglected I suppose03:16
wrstyes cyberanger i think it will, as much as i hate to, I may change my mind but just so many things are irritating to me about using irssi03:17
cyberangerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163175503:17
cyberangermight that describe your issue ^03:17
cyberanger(with grub, not wireless)03:18
wrstyeah it sees the older natty kernel but the 10.10 kernel just flew out the window it think i will reinstall with 10.10 live cd grub03:18
wrstand the wireless, well actually grub is just all part of running alpha grade software :)03:19
wrsti just have a somewhat overly strong hatred for grub2 :)03:19
cyberangeroh, come on, you know you love grub 2 ;-)03:32
wrstwell when they get it working i will love it actually, because the concept is great the execution... well... you know  how i feel about that :)03:34
cyberangeroh, come on, you know you love grub 2 ;-)03:36
cyberangerbut yeah, I do know that it's had some hiccups03:37
cyberangerand ubuntu messing with it doesn't help03:37
wrstbut when they get it all going it really should be great03:51
mhall119excid3|mbp: are fluttrly #hash lists not per-user?18:10
mhall119for that matter, are all fluttrly lists public?18:10
excid3|mbpthey're all public right now18:12
excid3|mbphashes just link two lists18:13
excid3|mbpI'm adding accounts and private lists this weekend though!18:13
mhall119cool18:20
mhall119I just git-cloned fluttrly and fluttr-desktop18:20
excid3|mbpah sweet18:22
excid3|mbpI haven't done as much on is as I wanted because I realized I should focus on Keryx 1.018:22
excid3|mbpbut now that's finished enough, I'm going to do some more on fluttrly18:22
excid3|mbpmhall119: iirc we removed CSRF protection so the fluttrly-desktop won't work18:26
excid3|mbpbut it can post to the site without having to grab the cookies and CSRF token18:26
excid3|mbpIt's a bad API design, but I didn't know how to do it better at the time. We also want to figure out a way to order the items18:26
mhall119I'd have to learn Ruby to help with the server20:26
mhall119but maybe I'll hack on fluttr-desktop20:26
mhall119I'm also thinking of making a fluttrly backend to Tasque20:26
mhall119course, that'll all depend on changes to the API20:27
mhall119could I recommend a simple REST/JSON20:27
mhall119though if you feel like re-writing fluttrly in Django, let me know ;)20:42
netritioushowdy locotn21:58
cyberangerhey netritious23:08
cyberangermhall119: are you around?23:09
cyberangernetritious: how's your day23:12
mhall119cyberanger: I am23:53
cyberangermhall119: a member in chattanooga's lug metioned qimo recently23:54
mhall119cool, someone in nashville was blogging about it too23:54
* mhall119 was in both cities this week23:55
mhall119but totally unrelated23:55
cyberangeryou were in chattanooga this week?23:55
mhall119yeah23:55
mhall119visiting friends of my wife23:55
cyberangerah23:56
mhall119but we spent most of our time driving all over the state23:56
cyberangerI'm not too far north, but you weren't heading north to knoxville I bet23:56
cyberangerhe did metion one thing23:56
mhall119the original intent of the trip was to take the kids up to see snow23:56
cyberanger"The first thing you do is setup a parent login, which is just a normal ubunt= u "admin" login (sudo access). I wish the installer highlighted that point m= ore clearly as I ended up renaming the login to be me (after install) rather= than my son as I had assumed. "23:56
mhall119so of course we picked the one week where temps where in the 70's23:56
cyberanger(poor c&p, whoops)23:57
cyberangerthat was is only gripe, and that was easy to fix, he loves it23:57
mhall119cyberanger: the installer doesn't mention that because it doesn't apply anymore23:57
cyberangerand yeah, good luck on timing23:57
mhall119as of 2.0, we don't have "parent" or "child" accounts23:58
cyberangerhrm, outdated version I guess then, he cited version 2 though23:58
mhall119you can choose whether to use the Qimo session on any account23:58
mhall119he could have left the original account for his son23:58
mhall119but it would have sudo access23:59
mhall119I'm looking at adding the ability to create multiple accounts during the installer, but it seems like it's going to be more work than maybe it's worth23:59
cyberangerah, that was his issue23:59

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