[00:50] howdy folks [00:51] * starsprout taps cyberanger [00:51] you know how to change kernel boot options in crunchbang? [00:51] hello starsprout [00:54] hi wrst [00:54] tryin to get this old aetheros wifi pci card working at my local coffeeshop's new crunchbang machine :-) [00:55] cool starsprout any luck? [00:55] compat_wireless seems to be the agreed upon solution [00:55] hey starsprout [00:56] however, make says "kernel was compiled with CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=n" so it won't build it [00:56] erm, "make" it [00:56] hiya cr [00:58] * wrst rejoices [00:58] natty started up [00:58] yeah starsprout that certainly sounds like a cyberanger issue :) [01:00] * wrst begins to pull in 200MB of updates it will probably never start again [01:00] yeah, prolly just be easier to buy a usb wireless adapter than try to get this old pci aetheros to run [01:01] aetheros i have dealt just a little with them but seemed to be a pain [01:02] crunchbang its based straight up on debian now right? [01:02] yep [01:03] ok i remember having to blacklist something on ubuntu to get an aetheros of some sort to work but that's been forever ago [01:03] what does CONFIG_ITEM=m mean? what's the m? I see y, n and m [01:03] yeah I read about that - blacklist the ath5k - how do I do that? [01:04] didn't try that yet - I also read compat-wireless was a good way to go, but now I'm trying to rebuild the kernel with wireless_ext=y [01:04] in ubuntu it was a simple edit of a config file not sure about debian [01:05] oh goodness rebuilding a kernel seems excessive [01:07] starsprout: yikes [01:07] lol [01:07] i dunno [01:07] nothing to lose here, just groping my way through.... :-) [01:08] I used to not know a lot about unix that I do know now, so I'm ok asking stupid questions to learn my ways [01:08] starsprout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros [01:08] that's the solution for ubuntu [01:08] and i know that worked for me [01:14] ok I blacklisted them and am rebooting now (seems better than editing the kernel config, heheh) [01:15] heck yeah wrst!!! it worked - wireless networks are available :-D [01:16] All hail, Linux in Tennessee!!! [01:16] starsprout: the easy way is good sometimes ;) [01:16] or something like that [01:16] thanks a lot y'all... [01:17] wrst: the command line is easy [01:18] no prob starsprout [01:18] cyberanger: doing whatever tothe kernel isn't!!!!! [01:20] crunchbang actually looks pretty cool now that I'm using it a bit [01:21] thanks as always y'all. buh-bye! [01:21] i like how synaptic tries to fix a deb package but dosnt really do anything [01:22] wrst: ah, come on, it can be easy [01:44] well that broke wireless and some how my 10.10 install disappeared from grub [01:44] chibihogoshino: i guess atleast it tries? [02:33] cyberanger: you will not be happy with me [02:59] wrst: why's that? [03:00] wrst: what broke your wireless and caused 10.10 to be cleared out of grub? [03:07] natty did all of that, and I'm back to quassel again cyberanger [03:15] shame on natty [03:15] yeah cyberanger it has grub 1.99 so its even worse than before i suppose? [03:16] as for quassel, that's fine, your smartphone just will have to be neglected I suppose [03:17] yes cyberanger i think it will, as much as i hate to, I may change my mind but just so many things are irritating to me about using irssi [03:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631755 [03:17] might that describe your issue ^ [03:18] (with grub, not wireless) [03:18] yeah it sees the older natty kernel but the 10.10 kernel just flew out the window it think i will reinstall with 10.10 live cd grub [03:19] and the wireless, well actually grub is just all part of running alpha grade software :) [03:19] i just have a somewhat overly strong hatred for grub2 :) [03:32] oh, come on, you know you love grub 2 ;-) [03:34] well when they get it working i will love it actually, because the concept is great the execution... well... you know how i feel about that :) [03:36] oh, come on, you know you love grub 2 ;-) [03:37] but yeah, I do know that it's had some hiccups [03:37] and ubuntu messing with it doesn't help [03:51] but when they get it all going it really should be great [18:10] excid3|mbp: are fluttrly #hash lists not per-user? [18:10] for that matter, are all fluttrly lists public? [18:12] they're all public right now [18:13] hashes just link two lists [18:13] I'm adding accounts and private lists this weekend though! [18:20] cool [18:20] I just git-cloned fluttrly and fluttr-desktop [18:22] ah sweet [18:22] I haven't done as much on is as I wanted because I realized I should focus on Keryx 1.0 [18:22] but now that's finished enough, I'm going to do some more on fluttrly [18:26] mhall119: iirc we removed CSRF protection so the fluttrly-desktop won't work [18:26] but it can post to the site without having to grab the cookies and CSRF token [18:26] It's a bad API design, but I didn't know how to do it better at the time. We also want to figure out a way to order the items [20:26] I'd have to learn Ruby to help with the server [20:26] but maybe I'll hack on fluttr-desktop [20:26] I'm also thinking of making a fluttrly backend to Tasque [20:27] course, that'll all depend on changes to the API [20:27] could I recommend a simple REST/JSON [20:42] though if you feel like re-writing fluttrly in Django, let me know ;) [21:58] howdy locotn [23:08] hey netritious [23:09] mhall119: are you around? [23:12] netritious: how's your day [23:53] cyberanger: I am [23:54] mhall119: a member in chattanooga's lug metioned qimo recently [23:54] cool, someone in nashville was blogging about it too [23:55] * mhall119 was in both cities this week [23:55] but totally unrelated [23:55] you were in chattanooga this week? [23:55] yeah [23:55] visiting friends of my wife [23:56] ah [23:56] but we spent most of our time driving all over the state [23:56] I'm not too far north, but you weren't heading north to knoxville I bet [23:56] he did metion one thing [23:56] the original intent of the trip was to take the kids up to see snow [23:56] "The first thing you do is setup a parent login, which is just a normal ubunt= u "admin" login (sudo access). I wish the installer highlighted that point m= ore clearly as I ended up renaming the login to be me (after install) rather= than my son as I had assumed. " [23:56] so of course we picked the one week where temps where in the 70's [23:57] (poor c&p, whoops) [23:57] that was is only gripe, and that was easy to fix, he loves it [23:57] cyberanger: the installer doesn't mention that because it doesn't apply anymore [23:57] and yeah, good luck on timing [23:58] as of 2.0, we don't have "parent" or "child" accounts [23:58] hrm, outdated version I guess then, he cited version 2 though [23:58] you can choose whether to use the Qimo session on any account [23:58] he could have left the original account for his son [23:59] but it would have sudo access [23:59] I'm looking at adding the ability to create multiple accounts during the installer, but it seems like it's going to be more work than maybe it's worth [23:59] ah, that was his issue