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theonlyDKrawr01:20
valorierawr to you to!01:53
valorietoo01:53
theonlyDKis there any way to revert to 10.10 from 11.402:00
theonlyDKit seems some of the packages aren't quite stable yet02:00
valoriesure, reinstall02:14
valorieor go to #ubuntu+1 for experts02:15
* valorie is still in 10.10 kubuntu, but I do have KDE 4.6rc102:15
valorieso I'm sorta half-way there02:15
valoriedunno how they do that in gnomieland02:15
theonlyDKwhats the difference between xubuntu/kubuntu and regular ubuntu anywayz03:29
valoriedesktop03:30
valorieKubuntu uses KDE, which is my preference03:30
valorieUbuntu uses Gnome, which I don't like03:30
valorieXubuntu uses XFCE, I believe03:31
valorieetc.03:31
theonlyDKahh03:35
valoriejust figuring all this stuff out, myself03:39
valorieI just heard of a new thing that a friend of mine installed: PeppermintOS03:39
valorieit's actually based on 10.04 LTS, and is pretty slick03:40
valoriere-themed, and linked up to some company's cloud services03:40
valoriealthough stuff is available for free, if you keep digging03:40
valoriesec03:41
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theonlyDKhmmm i've heard of peppermint...just bits and pieces though. 05:46
valorielooks slick05:47
valoriewould irritate me to be behind their little walls05:48
valoriebut this is a guy migrating from windows05:48
altharaHi valorie *waves*05:48
valoriemaybe he likes the safety05:48
valorie{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}} and happy new year, althara!05:48
altharahappy new year to you too05:48
valoriethanks!05:48
valorieso far, so good05:49
valoriegoogle code-in is almost over05:49
valoriemy handbook is almost out the door05:49
valorieetc.05:49
valoriefeels GOOD05:49
altharaYou wouldn't happen to be going to gslug tomorrow, would you? *nudge nudge*05:49
altharaawesome05:49
althara:)05:49
valoriesorry, now05:49
valorieno05:49
valorieI mean05:49
valorieone of these months, I promise I will05:49
valoriewhy in hell do they have them on Saturday morning?05:50
altharanoon to 405:50
valorie::groan::05:50
theonlyDKmost people work mon-fri...05:50
altharaI have no idea really05:50
altharaI like that it's not a week night05:50
valoriethat means leaving here by 10:3005:50
altharathose are super hard on me with a little05:50
altharaone05:50
valorieand I don't want to get up until then05:50
valorielol05:50
altharaheh05:50
altharablame salt :P05:51
theonlyDKwhats gslug?05:51
valorieoh, I do05:51
valorielol05:51
altharagreater seattle linux user group05:51
valoriegreater seattle linux05:51
theonlyDKoh05:52
valoriethe slug part is just coincidental05:52
altharameetings are the second Saturday of the month05:52
valorie:-)05:52
altharausually at google fremont05:52
altharavalorie: don't feel bad. I've only gone maybe twice in the last year05:52
valorieif I lived closer, I would def. attend more05:53
theonlyDKwow thats pretty close  to where im at05:54
altharahttp://www.gslug.org/wiki/index.php/Meeting_2011-01-0805:54
altharaMJEvans is bringing cake!05:55
valorie:(05:55
theonlyDKdid someone say steak?>05:55
valorielol05:55
altharaheh05:55
valorieI was trying to get a geeknik going last summer05:56
valoriebut it never happened05:56
altharathe brewery down the street probably has steak05:56
valorieTHIS SUMMER05:56
altharaI think last year was a little busy05:56
valoriefor sure05:56
altharathis year we'll start planning in may :)05:56
valoriepossibly earlier05:56
valorieesp. if I decide to try to attend UDS again05:57
altharaif we want to make it big like the linux picnic in the bay area we should definitely start planning early05:57
valoriewhich is April05:57
valorieright, we don't have MarkDude05:57
althararight around linuxfest time05:57
valoriewho is just a people magnet05:57
althara:)05:57
theonlyDKgolden gardens?05:57
theonlyDKfor a picnic...05:58
altharathat's a good idea05:58
theonlyDK:)05:58
theonlyDKor magnuson05:58
valoriewe were scoping out the parks last year05:58
theonlyDKi know alot in this town...05:58
valoriesome allow beer, some are No Alcohol05:58
theonlyDKbrown paper bags say otherwise :)05:59
valoriebeer isn't that important to me, but it does add to the fun for most05:59
altharaI'm willing to put in some money for a rental fee if there might be one05:59
altharawe also have the $25 from the lucid party05:59
valorieright, but I was going to get my son to brew us a keg05:59
altharathat would be sweet!05:59
theonlyDKawesome!05:59
valoriealthough he tells me that buying one costs about the same06:00
altharaif we bring beer they will come  :p06:00
valoriebut I thought something just for us would be cool06:00
theonlyDKi have an empty mac and jacks keg i could donate06:00
valorienice!06:00
theonlyDKit can only be filled by them too06:00
valoriemac and jacks is great!06:00
theonlyDKyeah i went on the tour a week ago06:01
valorieoh, I've never been 06:01
valoriewhere are they?06:01
altharavalorie: just for us would be awesome too ,but how would we drink a whole keg?06:02
valorieI was thinking we could get lotsa geeks to come06:02
valorieif we get a head start06:02
valorieeven windows geeks06:02
altharaindeed06:03
valoriesince my son the brewer is a win geek06:03
valorieeven the linux son uses win for WoW06:03
altharawe're all inclusive :)06:03
valorieexactly06:03
valoriehard to think of a picnic now, while it's so cold 06:04
valoriebut summer will come, I just know it06:04
valorie:-)06:04
altharaI sure hope so06:04
theonlyDKi had dual boot for gaming...06:04
theonlyDKthat project grendaded though06:05
altharaI played WoW on my mac <_<06:05
valoriehe bought an alienware lappy just for it06:05
theonlyDKi play league of legends when i game, its super addicting06:05
valoriecrazy man06:05
altharaI've heard of it. Haven't installed it yet06:05
theonlyDKits blown up dota for wc306:06
theonlyDKsame devs06:06
altharaGot a few friends that play pretty regularly, but I really don't need another time sink06:06
theonlyDKfrom*06:06
valoriemy gaming goes as far as klondike06:06
althara:)06:06
theonlyDKmy roomate's played 1500 games, they range from 25-75 minutes long too06:06
theonlyDKi got like 500 under my belt...06:07
theonlyDKbig time sink  during the winter06:07
altharait's hard to spend that much time on games with a small child06:08
theonlyDKval the mac and jacks brewery is in redmond06:09
theonlyDKthe big R!06:09
valoriecool, that's not too far away06:10
valoriewill have to drag the hubby up there06:10
valorieI've gone through Redhook06:10
valoriethat's right behind where my dau works, at The Herbfarm restaurant06:10
altharathere is a turducken of cake 06:10
altharathis scares me, greatly06:11
valoriea turducken of cake?06:11
valoriethis sounds.....06:11
theonlyDKNOMNOMNOM06:11
altharatwo different pies inside a cake06:11
altharatakes three days to make06:11
theonlyDKoh my06:11
valorieOMG06:11
theonlyDKcake stuffed with pies06:11
valorielol06:11
theonlyDKthis is outragoues06:11
altharaheh06:11
valorieI think i'd rather have them separately06:11
theonlyDKi've had dual layer pumpkin apple pie06:11
altharait's on the food network right _now_06:12
MarkDudevalorie, you do have me to help plan some of the stuff out, and you are correct about staarting now06:12
theonlyDKbut never a pie inside a cake, let alone 2...06:12
valoriehey MarkDude06:12
valorielet me just say, we are not having turducken06:12
MarkDudeYes, but you have unique powers also06:12
valorielol06:12
altharano way. I refuse to have turducken06:13
altharanow a pumple cake, maybe06:13
MarkDudeI am hoping to make it to LFNW, but we will see how the work thing is06:13
valoriepumpkin cake is good06:13
valorieoooo, that woudl be FUN06:13
valorieso pretty up there06:13
valorieand the geeks are great06:13
theonlyDKwhy such a resistance to turducken06:13
valorielolol06:14
MarkDudeDid you see the torched banana dessert we made at Geeknic 2?06:14
valoriei did!06:14
theonlyDKnegatory06:14
* MarkDude will find link06:14
valorieI'm sure MarkDude has pix06:14
valoriealthough, I'm thinking of a roast turkey with the circle of friends in the skin......06:15
valorielol06:15
altharathere is like 3 inches of frosting between the two layers of cake06:15
valorieugh06:15
valoriethe nice thing about pumpkin bread, or cake -- no frosting06:16
valorieat most, glaze06:16
altharaI like glaze more than frosting06:16
altharabuttercream can get overwhelming very fast06:16
valorieme too06:16
valorieexactly06:16
altharaI'll make my gramdma's poppyseed lemon cake for the picnic :)06:16
valoriesounds good06:17
altharabest cake I ever had in my life06:17
valoriemake it in a bundt cake pan06:17
altharabut that might be because I loved my grandma :)06:17
valorieand you can easily make a circle of friends on the plate06:17
altharait's a loaf type cake06:17
valoriesure, but I bet you can make it bundt06:18
altharamaybe if I double it06:18
altharaI can do some experiments06:18
theonlyDKi'm not very particular about cake, i'll eat it all06:18
theonlyDK:)06:18
valorieI often change stuff like that around06:18
altharaI've been really into bundt cakes lately06:18
altharapudding cakes to be exact06:18
valoriemy best pumpkin cake is actually a pumpkin bread reciped06:19
altharaso moist and yummy-licious06:19
valorieand vice versa06:19
theonlyDKi haven't gotten to dessert and baked goods in my cooking experiments yet...06:19
valoriethe nice thing about bundt is they look fancy right out of the pan06:19
valoriewithout icing06:19
valorieand super fancy with just some powdered sugar or glaze06:19
valorieor cocoa06:19
valoriedepending on the type06:20
altharayep06:20
altharaI even found a good pan at a thrift store06:20
altharaI was so happy about that06:20
valorieI have no kids, and never bake anymore06:20
valoriesomeone like me whose kids have all moved away06:20
valorielol06:20
altharaI couldn't justify spending $40 for a bundt pan06:20
valoriebut my cake pan is still up in the cupboard06:21
valorieI hear ya06:21
althara:)06:21
valorieI think mine was a wedding gift06:21
valorieor something06:21
altharaI think the one I found was fromt he 70's06:21
altharait's olive green, cast aluminum06:21
altharait'll last forever06:21
valorieoh lord06:22
valorieolive green06:22
valorieshudder06:22
altharaat least it's not a fridge :P06:22
valorieeverything used to be that shade06:22
altharaand avacado shag rug06:22
valorieincluding my first fridge06:22
valoriegah, that was awful06:22
altharaI've seen the pictures of the house my parents lived in pre kids :P06:22
valorieand mustard yellow06:22
altharait was very 70s06:23
valoriewho was designing stuff back then?06:23
valorieugh06:23
altharano idea06:23
valoriewe moved to this house in 7506:23
valorieso glad to get ride of that dowdy old stuff finally06:23
valorieI see old photos and cringe06:24
valorielol06:24
altharaheh06:24
theonlyDKis peppermint made by google? becuase i read about a cloud os that google was building06:26
valoriehmmm06:26
valorieI didn't see the google name anywhere around it06:27
valoriebut I have to say, my search wasn't exhaustive06:27
valorieit's build on 10.0406:27
valorieand has a cloud component if people put up the money for that06:27
valorieso it could be an experiment by them06:27
valoriethey have their own new cloud OS out on some laptops they gave away to some folks06:28
theonlyDKyeah im gonna build a live usb for it06:29
theonlyDKand give it a go06:29
theonlyDKjust cuz06:29
valoriereport back06:30
valorieit looks interesting06:30
theonlyDKroger that06:33
theonlyDKthis is going to be very interesting, i've never even used the cloud before06:47
valoriehow much do they charge?06:58
* valorie just bought cloud backup today, from spideroak06:58
valorieit's got 4 gigs so far, out of 10006:58
valoriemight be uploading for awhile.....06:59
theonlyDKthe os was free06:59
theonlyDKno idea what the subscription could be07:00
valoriek07:01
valorieit's sort of a nice business plan07:02
valoriebasically charging for extra services and help07:02
valoriewhich when you think about it is what Canonical does for business07:02
theonlyDKor what google does with android...07:12
theonlyDKokay im taking the plunge...07:12
altharaMarkDude: that animated gif you posted to facebook is creeping me out07:30
valorienow I have to go look!07:32
* MarkDude started making some gifs for a friends band - they are heavy metal- this one is not creepy http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Dude%20running%20with%20scissors.gif07:32
MarkDudeit is a dropbox pic valorie 07:33
valoriek07:34
valoriethat's weeeeiiiirrrrddddd07:34
valorieI should get a dropbox07:34
valoriebut maybe my spideroak will work07:34
valoriegotta get the backup done first, before I mess with it07:35
MarkDudehttp://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/07:35
MarkDudeall of them are there, yes its a Fedora blog, dont be mad at me07:35
valorieapproaching 5 gigs backed up!07:35
valorieout of 80 or so07:35
valorielol07:35
valoriewhy would i be mad at you07:35
valoriesilly man07:36
valorielol07:36
valorieomg googly eyes07:36
valorienow THAT is creepy07:36
altharaeaxctly07:37
altharaexactly07:37
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTlookie lou i made it..running peppermint...07:48
altharanice07:48
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTtime to explore...07:49
valoriedoes it look good?07:49
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTim running live right now07:49
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTruns okay for the most part07:49
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTinternet video is doodoo07:50
valoriemight not have flash installed07:51
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTits does07:51
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTyoutube works good but every other video site is kinda shitty07:51
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINThmmm software manager07:52
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTinteresting07:52
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINToverall the UI design is about 7 of 1007:53
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTfor not installed07:53
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTboots up like ubuntu07:53
MarkDudeWhich side are the buttons on?07:55
valoriewell, it IS ubuntu07:55
valorie10.04 LTS07:55
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTmenu is windows esc bottom left07:55
MarkDudeThe correct side then :P07:55
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTwindows-esque*07:55
valorielol07:56
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTactually07:56
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTthe entire bottom taskbar is XP07:56
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTwhich makes me hate this07:56
valoriecorrect=KDE where you can have them whereever you want07:56
valorielol07:56
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT4 workspaces....imagine that!07:56
MarkDudeHmm, sounds like a possible *gateway drug* I can use to get folks into Linux07:57
valorieI heard about it earlier today, when a friend of mine said he'd installed it instead of windows07:57
valoriePeppermintOS07:58
valoriehad never heard of it before07:58
valorielooks pretty cute07:58
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTits super similiar to windows08:04
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTscary infact08:04
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINThas a "run" command08:04
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTin the menu08:04
MarkDudeRun?08:10
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTyeah08:10
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTlike windows 9808:11
MarkDudeis there a pepppermintconfig,sys?08:11
* DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT shudders08:11
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTflash crashed...imagine that08:11
MarkDudethat is a cross platform feature of flash08:12
MarkDudedoes that well on all platforms08:12
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTyeah i've learned that...08:12
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTslowly :)08:12
MarkDudeThey have been perfecting it08:12
valorieI'm pretty sure that it is meant to be familiar to win users08:13
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTyeah08:14
MarkDudeWell the crashing makes them feel at home :D08:14
valorierofl08:14
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTflash crashes all the time in 11.04 for me...08:14
valorieone thing that draws us all together: hatred of flash!08:14
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTyeah08:15
MarkDudeAnd as you get more used to Linux, you can move the slider towards the less crashes side08:15
* valorie is listening to Bitter Sweet Symphony by The Verve on Urban Hymns [Amarok]08:15
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINThmmm08:15
valoriejust seemed apropos08:15
* MarkDude is going to be performing my Sister's Marriage next month08:16
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTi've tried using different synaptics for the flash plugins but all have equally shitty performance08:16
MarkDudeOrdained on ulc.org - ty08:16
MarkDudeDKPAPPAPEPPAMINT, the proper phrase is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic08:17
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINThmmm08:17
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTi can view and use all the files on my hd...08:17
DKPAPPAPEPPAMINTmkv still glitchy playback...08:18
valorienice, MarkDude08:24
valorieI found out my middle son has officiated at a couple of weddings08:25
valorieI didn't have a clue08:25
valorielol08:25
valorieI have ulc ordination too, but don't know where my piece of paper is08:25
altharaditto08:25
valorienor do I really want to conduct a wedding08:25
valoriethat's a lot of pressue08:25
valoriepressure08:25
MarkDudeThe advice said just sign up again - I had done it in 2006 or sumthin08:26
* MarkDude plans on marrying some folks again08:26
* MarkDude reserves the right not to do it - I may pass on it it if I dont think I am the right person- this will be my 1st time08:27
MarkDudeI am cool with it- I might perform some civil unions also08:27
MarkDudeand eventually marriages for gay folks also08:28
MarkDudethe timing being the laws- not mine :)08:28
valorieof course08:29
* MarkDude was joking that he can be the Sinister Minister08:31
MarkDudeThe titles they have on Ulc are great- rock n roll reverend, dervish, even Pope08:32
MarkDudeI will spend a $ to see if we can get one to name Alan- Pope Pope08:33
valorieI wonder if any of the sisters of perpetual indulgence do weddings?08:33
valorienow that would be a touch of class!08:34
MarkDudeMost likely08:34
valorieI went to gay bingo awhile ago, which they were running08:34
valorieit was fun!08:34
* MarkDude met one of them last summer cant find the card08:34
valorieand a huge fundraiser08:34
valoriethey are easy to find on the web08:35
valorieAbbey of St. Joan down there08:35
* MarkDude can just imagine a few of the winners beyond excited08:35
MarkDudepeople totally freak over winning, my ex-fiance used to bingo all the time08:36
valoriefirst time I've ever done it08:37
valorieI did BAD08:37
valorielol08:37
* MarkDude could not even do 1 bingo card08:41
altharabingo is fun08:42
MarkDudeLinda had like 12 and was still tracking mine08:42
altharaespecially if you can drink while you play08:42
altharaand if you do it like the odeon did, with massive amounts of ridiculous08:42
MarkDudeFridays were cool, i would come home hand my wallet over, dinner was made. I would watch the kids until bingo was over08:43
MarkDudealthara,  they have a smoking and non section there?08:44
altharano, it was a bar in SF. Closed down three years ago, I think.08:44
altharaActually longer08:44
altharaAnd SF hates smoking :)08:45
MarkDudeSmoking and people that drive hummers08:45
altharaindeed08:46
DK12hating smoking is the cool thing to do now a days08:46
DK12i get mean mugged a lot downtown when im walkin and smokin08:46
DK12:(08:46
altharaThe obnoxious behavior goes both ways, I've found. Was never really into it when I've been on either side of that equation.08:47
altharait being making other people uncomfortable in their choice to or not to smoke08:48
altharayay, I get to go to sleep now08:53
altharanight all08:53
valorieI hate smoke, and the smell of it, but like smokers09:02
valoriealways like to hang with the smokers09:02
* MarkDude still needs to quit09:08
DK12off to gslug woot....19:39
altharaI'm not gonna make it. Work :(19:40
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