=== DK12 is now known as DK1 === DK1 is now known as theonlyDK [01:20] rawr [01:53] rawr to you to! [01:53] too [02:00] is there any way to revert to 10.10 from 11.4 [02:00] it seems some of the packages aren't quite stable yet [02:14] sure, reinstall [02:15] or go to #ubuntu+1 for experts [02:15] * valorie is still in 10.10 kubuntu, but I do have KDE 4.6rc1 [02:15] so I'm sorta half-way there [02:15] dunno how they do that in gnomieland [03:29] whats the difference between xubuntu/kubuntu and regular ubuntu anywayz [03:30] desktop [03:30] Kubuntu uses KDE, which is my preference [03:30] Ubuntu uses Gnome, which I don't like [03:31] Xubuntu uses XFCE, I believe [03:31] etc. [03:35] ahh [03:39] just figuring all this stuff out, myself [03:39] I just heard of a new thing that a friend of mine installed: PeppermintOS [03:40] it's actually based on 10.04 LTS, and is pretty slick [03:40] re-themed, and linked up to some company's cloud services [03:40] although stuff is available for free, if you keep digging [03:41] sec === Salt is now known as Salt|afk [05:46] hmmm i've heard of peppermint...just bits and pieces though. [05:47] looks slick [05:48] would irritate me to be behind their little walls [05:48] but this is a guy migrating from windows [05:48] Hi valorie *waves* [05:48] maybe he likes the safety [05:48] {{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}} and happy new year, althara! [05:48] happy new year to you too [05:48] thanks! [05:49] so far, so good [05:49] google code-in is almost over [05:49] my handbook is almost out the door [05:49] etc. [05:49] feels GOOD [05:49] You wouldn't happen to be going to gslug tomorrow, would you? *nudge nudge* [05:49] awesome [05:49] :) [05:49] sorry, now [05:49] no [05:49] I mean [05:49] one of these months, I promise I will [05:50] why in hell do they have them on Saturday morning? [05:50] noon to 4 [05:50] ::groan:: [05:50] most people work mon-fri... [05:50] I have no idea really [05:50] I like that it's not a week night [05:50] that means leaving here by 10:30 [05:50] those are super hard on me with a little [05:50] one [05:50] and I don't want to get up until then [05:50] lol [05:50] heh [05:51] blame salt :P [05:51] whats gslug? [05:51] oh, I do [05:51] lol [05:51] greater seattle linux user group [05:51] greater seattle linux [05:52] oh [05:52] the slug part is just coincidental [05:52] meetings are the second Saturday of the month [05:52] :-) [05:52] usually at google fremont [05:52] valorie: don't feel bad. I've only gone maybe twice in the last year [05:53] if I lived closer, I would def. attend more [05:54] wow thats pretty close to where im at [05:54] http://www.gslug.org/wiki/index.php/Meeting_2011-01-08 [05:55] MJEvans is bringing cake! [05:55] :( [05:55] did someone say steak?> [05:55] lol [05:55] heh [05:56] I was trying to get a geeknik going last summer [05:56] but it never happened [05:56] the brewery down the street probably has steak [05:56] THIS SUMMER [05:56] I think last year was a little busy [05:56] for sure [05:56] this year we'll start planning in may :) [05:56] possibly earlier [05:57] esp. if I decide to try to attend UDS again [05:57] if we want to make it big like the linux picnic in the bay area we should definitely start planning early [05:57] which is April [05:57] right, we don't have MarkDude [05:57] right around linuxfest time [05:57] who is just a people magnet [05:57] :) [05:57] golden gardens? [05:58] for a picnic... [05:58] that's a good idea [05:58] :) [05:58] or magnuson [05:58] we were scoping out the parks last year [05:58] i know alot in this town... [05:58] some allow beer, some are No Alcohol [05:59] brown paper bags say otherwise :) [05:59] beer isn't that important to me, but it does add to the fun for most [05:59] I'm willing to put in some money for a rental fee if there might be one [05:59] we also have the $25 from the lucid party [05:59] right, but I was going to get my son to brew us a keg [05:59] that would be sweet! [05:59] awesome! [06:00] although he tells me that buying one costs about the same [06:00] if we bring beer they will come :p [06:00] but I thought something just for us would be cool [06:00] i have an empty mac and jacks keg i could donate [06:00] nice! [06:00] it can only be filled by them too [06:00] mac and jacks is great! [06:01] yeah i went on the tour a week ago [06:01] oh, I've never been [06:01] where are they? [06:02] valorie: just for us would be awesome too ,but how would we drink a whole keg? [06:02] I was thinking we could get lotsa geeks to come [06:02] if we get a head start [06:02] even windows geeks [06:03] indeed [06:03] since my son the brewer is a win geek [06:03] even the linux son uses win for WoW [06:03] we're all inclusive :) [06:03] exactly [06:04] hard to think of a picnic now, while it's so cold [06:04] but summer will come, I just know it [06:04] :-) [06:04] I sure hope so [06:04] i had dual boot for gaming... [06:05] that project grendaded though [06:05] I played WoW on my mac <_< [06:05] he bought an alienware lappy just for it [06:05] i play league of legends when i game, its super addicting [06:05] crazy man [06:05] I've heard of it. Haven't installed it yet [06:06] its blown up dota for wc3 [06:06] same devs [06:06] Got a few friends that play pretty regularly, but I really don't need another time sink [06:06] from* [06:06] my gaming goes as far as klondike [06:06] :) [06:06] my roomate's played 1500 games, they range from 25-75 minutes long too [06:07] i got like 500 under my belt... [06:07] big time sink during the winter [06:08] it's hard to spend that much time on games with a small child [06:09] val the mac and jacks brewery is in redmond [06:09] the big R! [06:10] cool, that's not too far away [06:10] will have to drag the hubby up there [06:10] I've gone through Redhook [06:10] that's right behind where my dau works, at The Herbfarm restaurant [06:10] there is a turducken of cake [06:11] this scares me, greatly [06:11] a turducken of cake? [06:11] this sounds..... [06:11] NOMNOMNOM [06:11] two different pies inside a cake [06:11] takes three days to make [06:11] oh my [06:11] OMG [06:11] cake stuffed with pies [06:11] lol [06:11] this is outragoues [06:11] heh [06:11] I think i'd rather have them separately [06:11] i've had dual layer pumpkin apple pie [06:12] it's on the food network right _now_ [06:12] valorie, you do have me to help plan some of the stuff out, and you are correct about staarting now [06:12] but never a pie inside a cake, let alone 2... [06:12] hey MarkDude [06:12] let me just say, we are not having turducken [06:12] Yes, but you have unique powers also [06:12] lol [06:13] no way. I refuse to have turducken [06:13] now a pumple cake, maybe [06:13] I am hoping to make it to LFNW, but we will see how the work thing is [06:13] pumpkin cake is good [06:13] oooo, that woudl be FUN [06:13] so pretty up there [06:13] and the geeks are great [06:13] why such a resistance to turducken [06:14] lolol [06:14] Did you see the torched banana dessert we made at Geeknic 2? [06:14] i did! [06:14] negatory [06:14] * MarkDude will find link [06:14] I'm sure MarkDude has pix [06:15] although, I'm thinking of a roast turkey with the circle of friends in the skin...... [06:15] lol [06:15] there is like 3 inches of frosting between the two layers of cake [06:15] ugh [06:16] the nice thing about pumpkin bread, or cake -- no frosting [06:16] at most, glaze [06:16] I like glaze more than frosting [06:16] buttercream can get overwhelming very fast [06:16] me too [06:16] exactly [06:16] I'll make my gramdma's poppyseed lemon cake for the picnic :) [06:17] sounds good [06:17] best cake I ever had in my life [06:17] make it in a bundt cake pan [06:17] but that might be because I loved my grandma :) [06:17] and you can easily make a circle of friends on the plate [06:17] it's a loaf type cake [06:18] sure, but I bet you can make it bundt [06:18] maybe if I double it [06:18] I can do some experiments [06:18] i'm not very particular about cake, i'll eat it all [06:18] :) [06:18] I often change stuff like that around [06:18] I've been really into bundt cakes lately [06:18] pudding cakes to be exact [06:19] my best pumpkin cake is actually a pumpkin bread reciped [06:19] so moist and yummy-licious [06:19] and vice versa [06:19] i haven't gotten to dessert and baked goods in my cooking experiments yet... [06:19] the nice thing about bundt is they look fancy right out of the pan [06:19] without icing [06:19] and super fancy with just some powdered sugar or glaze [06:19] or cocoa [06:20] depending on the type [06:20] yep [06:20] I even found a good pan at a thrift store [06:20] I was so happy about that [06:20] I have no kids, and never bake anymore [06:20] someone like me whose kids have all moved away [06:20] lol [06:20] I couldn't justify spending $40 for a bundt pan [06:21] but my cake pan is still up in the cupboard [06:21] I hear ya [06:21] :) [06:21] I think mine was a wedding gift [06:21] or something [06:21] I think the one I found was fromt he 70's [06:21] it's olive green, cast aluminum [06:21] it'll last forever [06:22] oh lord [06:22] olive green [06:22] shudder [06:22] at least it's not a fridge :P [06:22] everything used to be that shade [06:22] and avacado shag rug [06:22] including my first fridge [06:22] gah, that was awful [06:22] I've seen the pictures of the house my parents lived in pre kids :P [06:22] and mustard yellow [06:23] it was very 70s [06:23] who was designing stuff back then? [06:23] ugh [06:23] no idea [06:23] we moved to this house in 75 [06:23] so glad to get ride of that dowdy old stuff finally [06:24] I see old photos and cringe [06:24] lol [06:24] heh [06:26] is peppermint made by google? becuase i read about a cloud os that google was building [06:26] hmmm [06:27] I didn't see the google name anywhere around it [06:27] but I have to say, my search wasn't exhaustive [06:27] it's build on 10.04 [06:27] and has a cloud component if people put up the money for that [06:27] so it could be an experiment by them [06:28] they have their own new cloud OS out on some laptops they gave away to some folks [06:29] yeah im gonna build a live usb for it [06:29] and give it a go [06:29] just cuz [06:30] report back [06:30] it looks interesting [06:33] roger that [06:47] this is going to be very interesting, i've never even used the cloud before [06:58] how much do they charge? [06:58] * valorie just bought cloud backup today, from spideroak [06:58] it's got 4 gigs so far, out of 100 [06:59] might be uploading for awhile..... [06:59] the os was free [07:00] no idea what the subscription could be [07:01] k [07:02] it's sort of a nice business plan [07:02] basically charging for extra services and help [07:02] which when you think about it is what Canonical does for business [07:12] or what google does with android... [07:12] okay im taking the plunge... [07:30] MarkDude: that animated gif you posted to facebook is creeping me out [07:32] now I have to go look! [07:32] * MarkDude started making some gifs for a friends band - they are heavy metal- this one is not creepy http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Dude%20running%20with%20scissors.gif [07:33] it is a dropbox pic valorie [07:34] k [07:34] that's weeeeiiiirrrrddddd [07:34] I should get a dropbox [07:34] but maybe my spideroak will work [07:35] gotta get the backup done first, before I mess with it [07:35] http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ [07:35] all of them are there, yes its a Fedora blog, dont be mad at me [07:35] approaching 5 gigs backed up! [07:35] out of 80 or so [07:35] lol [07:35] why would i be mad at you [07:36] silly man [07:36] lol [07:36] omg googly eyes [07:36] now THAT is creepy [07:37] eaxctly [07:37] exactly [07:48] lookie lou i made it..running peppermint... [07:48] nice [07:49] time to explore... [07:49] does it look good? [07:49] im running live right now [07:49] runs okay for the most part [07:50] internet video is doodoo [07:51] might not have flash installed [07:51] its does [07:51] youtube works good but every other video site is kinda shitty [07:52] hmmm software manager [07:52] interesting [07:53] overall the UI design is about 7 of 10 [07:53] for not installed [07:53] boots up like ubuntu [07:55] Which side are the buttons on? [07:55] well, it IS ubuntu [07:55] 10.04 LTS [07:55] menu is windows esc bottom left [07:55] The correct side then :P [07:55] windows-esque* [07:56] lol [07:56] actually [07:56] the entire bottom taskbar is XP [07:56] which makes me hate this [07:56] correct=KDE where you can have them whereever you want [07:56] lol [07:56] 4 workspaces....imagine that! [07:57] Hmm, sounds like a possible *gateway drug* I can use to get folks into Linux [07:57] I heard about it earlier today, when a friend of mine said he'd installed it instead of windows [07:58] PeppermintOS [07:58] had never heard of it before [07:58] looks pretty cute [08:04] its super similiar to windows [08:04] scary infact [08:04] has a "run" command [08:04] in the menu [08:10] Run? [08:10] yeah [08:11] like windows 98 [08:11] is there a pepppermintconfig,sys? [08:11] * DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT shudders [08:11] flash crashed...imagine that [08:12] that is a cross platform feature of flash [08:12] does that well on all platforms [08:12] yeah i've learned that... [08:12] slowly :) [08:12] They have been perfecting it [08:13] I'm pretty sure that it is meant to be familiar to win users [08:14] yeah [08:14] Well the crashing makes them feel at home :D [08:14] rofl [08:14] flash crashes all the time in 11.04 for me... [08:14] one thing that draws us all together: hatred of flash! [08:15] yeah [08:15] And as you get more used to Linux, you can move the slider towards the less crashes side [08:15] * valorie is listening to Bitter Sweet Symphony by The Verve on Urban Hymns [Amarok] [08:15] hmmm [08:15] just seemed apropos [08:16] * MarkDude is going to be performing my Sister's Marriage next month [08:16] i've tried using different synaptics for the flash plugins but all have equally shitty performance [08:16] Ordained on ulc.org - ty [08:17] DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT, the proper phrase is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic [08:17] hmmm [08:17] i can view and use all the files on my hd... [08:18] mkv still glitchy playback... [08:24] nice, MarkDude [08:25] I found out my middle son has officiated at a couple of weddings [08:25] I didn't have a clue [08:25] lol [08:25] I have ulc ordination too, but don't know where my piece of paper is [08:25] ditto [08:25] nor do I really want to conduct a wedding [08:25] that's a lot of pressue [08:25] pressure [08:26] The advice said just sign up again - I had done it in 2006 or sumthin [08:26] * MarkDude plans on marrying some folks again [08:27] * MarkDude reserves the right not to do it - I may pass on it it if I dont think I am the right person- this will be my 1st time [08:27] I am cool with it- I might perform some civil unions also [08:28] and eventually marriages for gay folks also [08:28] the timing being the laws- not mine :) [08:29] of course [08:31] * MarkDude was joking that he can be the Sinister Minister [08:32] The titles they have on Ulc are great- rock n roll reverend, dervish, even Pope [08:33] I will spend a $ to see if we can get one to name Alan- Pope Pope [08:33] I wonder if any of the sisters of perpetual indulgence do weddings? [08:34] now that would be a touch of class! [08:34] Most likely [08:34] I went to gay bingo awhile ago, which they were running [08:34] it was fun! [08:34] * MarkDude met one of them last summer cant find the card [08:34] and a huge fundraiser [08:35] they are easy to find on the web [08:35] Abbey of St. Joan down there [08:35] * MarkDude can just imagine a few of the winners beyond excited [08:36] people totally freak over winning, my ex-fiance used to bingo all the time [08:37] first time I've ever done it [08:37] I did BAD [08:37] lol [08:41] * MarkDude could not even do 1 bingo card [08:42] bingo is fun [08:42] Linda had like 12 and was still tracking mine [08:42] especially if you can drink while you play [08:42] and if you do it like the odeon did, with massive amounts of ridiculous [08:43] Fridays were cool, i would come home hand my wallet over, dinner was made. I would watch the kids until bingo was over [08:44] althara, they have a smoking and non section there? [08:44] no, it was a bar in SF. Closed down three years ago, I think. [08:44] Actually longer [08:45] And SF hates smoking :) [08:45]