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Pitchenhey00:18
Pitchenhow do I get connected to wireless using this ubuntu system?00:19
PitchenI just install it now00:19
jon_athonHow do you folks like ubuntu one?03:31
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DiagonalArgQuick ? if anyone's around ... Any way to sync a specific _file_, rather than a whole folder?11:37
DiagonalArgDo I have to trick it by making a folder with a (hard?) link?11:38
DiagonalArgTrying again ... Any way to sync a specific _file_ rather than a whole folder?  Do I have to make a hard link into a folder?12:01
duanedesign__'lo all13:07
tappiis ubuntu one available to non-desktop users?13:10
tappiie. does it work in a terminal13:10
duanedesign__tappi: as far as i know it is possible13:13
duanedesign__tappi: I am not on my Ubuntu machine at the moment so I do not have my notes on the topic available13:15
duanedesign__tappi: if you get serious about wanting to do it you might ask Chipaca about it13:15
duanedesign__he is off today but you can usually catch him on weekdays about this time13:16
tappii take it it's not doable out of the box+13:19
duanedesign__it just takes some configuring AFIK.13:23
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DiagonalArgAnybody around?  Still trying to get this answered:  Looking for a way to sync a specific _file_ rather than a whole folder.  Only way I can see is to make a hard link into a folder which is being synced.14:33
karniDiagonalArg: indeed. U1 doesn't have the option to sync partirular file, only folders.14:37
karni*particular14:37
DiagonalArgI see.  What's the logic of that, do you know?14:37
DiagonalArgJust curious.14:37
karniDiagonalArg: From what I can tell, the logic is that the file sync system is highly not trivial. That's it. It'd be another layer of complexity if they where to introduce per-file sync.14:38
karni*non trivial14:38
DiagonalArgOk.  Thanks a lot -14:38
DiagonalArgHey, if you've got a min, I do have a bug issue on U1.14:39
karniDiagonalArg: you are welcome. perhaps that functionality will come one day.14:39
karniDiagonalArg: what's that?14:39
DiagonalArgIt's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bindwood/+bug/69619414:39
ubot4`Launchpad bug 696194 in bindwood "Syncing Bookmarks (pulling from Server) in Ubuntu One Failing (affects: 1) (heat: 37)" [Undecided,New]14:39
DiagonalArgAny thoughts?14:39
* karni checks14:40
karniDiagonalArg: I'm not into Bindwood (never even used it), but indeed it looks like a replication issue. Unless someone takes care of your bug sooner, you might wanna drop in during workdays (i.e. starting Monday) and ask that question again :)14:42
DiagonalArgOk, I'll try that.  (What's a "replication issue"?)14:42
DiagonalArgPerhaps you meant it just couldn't copy, which indeed is the case.  Ok, thanks for your help, karni....14:45
karniDiagonalArg: it means that couchDB (sort of Database) had problems either sending or receiving your bookmarks14:45
karniright14:45
karninp DiagonalArg , you might have more luck asking during workdays :)14:45
DiagonalArgOk, Have a good week-end!14:45
karnithanks, you too14:45
karnibeuno: I'm revising the wiki part about available settings. I haven't implemented speed limits, but as long as that's doable - should the limits be the same for WIFI and Mobile connections? Should we split it up and give more choice options depending on the connection type?15:46
beunokarni, I think that for now, the same speed limit is fine15:52
karnibeuno: ack.15:52
karnibeuno: how about the connection available for syncing? 1. none (turned off), 2. wifi, 3. mobile (which includes sync on wifi since it's free?)15:53
beunomaybe checkboxes for wifi and 3g?15:55
beunoso people can combine them as they wish?15:55
karniaha. so whichever is available, we just check if they're fine with syncing with that. sure.15:55
karni*on that (not with that)15:55
* beuno nods15:56
karnibeuno: I have revised https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkarnicki/u1f#Brainstorming - maybe I should be putting those as blueprints on lp?16:05
karniyeah.. they're exactly for that purpose :)16:06
beunokarni, no, I think the wiki is fine16:21
beunoblueprints on launchpad have a lot of overhead16:21
karniaha got it16:23
karnibeuno: ack on what I wrote on the wiki? :) (if you're off duty today, that's fine ; )16:46
beunolet me look!16:48
beunokarni, looksgood16:49
karnibeuno: thank you16:49
karnibeuno: I'll update you with an apk asap I'm done with sync. today/tomorrow16:50
beunokarni, sounds great, looking forward to testing16:50
karnibeuno: ok! :)16:50
karniverterok: Hi verterok. I think the OIOConnector::run() shouldn't catch IOException, perhaps even StorageProtocolError - instead of getting a (possibly re-thrown) failure in Ping deferred, I just get stack trace pinged and deferred still invokes callback instead of errback, although the "java.io.IOException: Write error: I/O error during system call, Broken pipe"18:15
karniverterok: So I'd like to consult that with you. I have to get those Failure(s) to know when should I reconnect.18:16
karnibeuno: o oh.. that I kinda didn't expect. so when I edit myfavfile.txt on my PC, the next delta for the phone contains "myfavfile.txt is dead", and then "new myfavfile.txt is alive" -- that said, the first step removes the "this is my favourite!" from the items meta cached on the phone. I'll have to revise that :/19:28
karniso *that's* the thing very different from the PC - partial sync. only favourites. ok.. will come up with something.19:29
karniok, I have a solution. just another column in the db, and remove the dead files *after* the sync process. thus, fav file might only flip isLive: true -> false -> true, and not be deleted19:33
karniverterok: What also interests me is - if I modify a file on my PC, I get four volumeNewGenerationCallback's with consecutive numbers: for example 79, 80, 81, 82 - where do so many changes come from? even if the server substitutes that modified file, it's just delete+receive, just two.21:20
karniverterok: I'm asking so that I don't make unnecessary operations, if those callbacks are invoked so many times. i.e. generation number increases so fast.21:21
verterokkarni: I'm not at home ATM, would you mind sending this by mail so I don't lose the questions?21:46
karniverterok: I will, np!21:46
verterokkarni: thx, now I'm back to non-work mode21:49
verteroklater!21:49
karni^ ^21:49
karniverterok: bye!21:49
karnibeuno: I have mailed aquarius, guillermo, and you in Cc , with a question concerning nitty-gritty details of the U1 sync, which we could use to perform selective sync. It was a little suprize to me that a modified file changes it's nodeId (but at least a renamed folder doesn't).22:09

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