[00:18] <Pitchen> hey
[00:19] <Pitchen> how do I get connected to wireless using this ubuntu system?
[00:19] <Pitchen> I just install it now
[03:31] <jon_athon> How do you folks like ubuntu one?
[11:37] <DiagonalArg> Quick ? if anyone's around ... Any way to sync a specific _file_, rather than a whole folder?
[11:38] <DiagonalArg> Do I have to trick it by making a folder with a (hard?) link?
[12:01] <DiagonalArg> Trying again ... Any way to sync a specific _file_ rather than a whole folder?  Do I have to make a hard link into a folder?
[13:07] <duanedesign__> 'lo all
[13:10] <tappi> is ubuntu one available to non-desktop users?
[13:10] <tappi> ie. does it work in a terminal
[13:13] <duanedesign__> tappi: as far as i know it is possible
[13:15] <duanedesign__> tappi: I am not on my Ubuntu machine at the moment so I do not have my notes on the topic available
[13:15] <duanedesign__> tappi: if you get serious about wanting to do it you might ask Chipaca about it
[13:16] <duanedesign__> he is off today but you can usually catch him on weekdays about this time
[13:19] <tappi> i take it it's not doable out of the box+
[13:23] <duanedesign__> it just takes some configuring AFIK.
[14:33] <DiagonalArg> Anybody around?  Still trying to get this answered:  Looking for a way to sync a specific _file_ rather than a whole folder.  Only way I can see is to make a hard link into a folder which is being synced.
[14:37] <karni> DiagonalArg: indeed. U1 doesn't have the option to sync partirular file, only folders.
[14:37] <karni> *particular
[14:37] <DiagonalArg> I see.  What's the logic of that, do you know?
[14:37] <DiagonalArg> Just curious.
[14:38] <karni> DiagonalArg: From what I can tell, the logic is that the file sync system is highly not trivial. That's it. It'd be another layer of complexity if they where to introduce per-file sync.
[14:38] <karni> *non trivial
[14:38] <DiagonalArg> Ok.  Thanks a lot -
[14:39] <DiagonalArg> Hey, if you've got a min, I do have a bug issue on U1.
[14:39] <karni> DiagonalArg: you are welcome. perhaps that functionality will come one day.
[14:39] <karni> DiagonalArg: what's that?
[14:39] <DiagonalArg> It's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bindwood/+bug/696194
[14:39] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 696194 in bindwood "Syncing Bookmarks (pulling from Server) in Ubuntu One Failing (affects: 1) (heat: 37)" [Undecided,New]
[14:39] <DiagonalArg> Any thoughts?
[14:40]  * karni checks
[14:42] <karni> DiagonalArg: I'm not into Bindwood (never even used it), but indeed it looks like a replication issue. Unless someone takes care of your bug sooner, you might wanna drop in during workdays (i.e. starting Monday) and ask that question again :)
[14:42] <DiagonalArg> Ok, I'll try that.  (What's a "replication issue"?)
[14:45] <DiagonalArg> Perhaps you meant it just couldn't copy, which indeed is the case.  Ok, thanks for your help, karni....
[14:45] <karni> DiagonalArg: it means that couchDB (sort of Database) had problems either sending or receiving your bookmarks
[14:45] <karni> right
[14:45] <karni> np DiagonalArg , you might have more luck asking during workdays :)
[14:45] <DiagonalArg> Ok, Have a good week-end!
[14:45] <karni> thanks, you too
[15:46] <karni> beuno: I'm revising the wiki part about available settings. I haven't implemented speed limits, but as long as that's doable - should the limits be the same for WIFI and Mobile connections? Should we split it up and give more choice options depending on the connection type?
[15:52] <beuno> karni, I think that for now, the same speed limit is fine
[15:52] <karni> beuno: ack.
[15:53] <karni> beuno: how about the connection available for syncing? 1. none (turned off), 2. wifi, 3. mobile (which includes sync on wifi since it's free?)
[15:55] <beuno> maybe checkboxes for wifi and 3g?
[15:55] <beuno> so people can combine them as they wish?
[15:55] <karni> aha. so whichever is available, we just check if they're fine with syncing with that. sure.
[15:55] <karni> *on that (not with that)
[15:56]  * beuno nods
[16:05] <karni> beuno: I have revised https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkarnicki/u1f#Brainstorming - maybe I should be putting those as blueprints on lp?
[16:06] <karni> yeah.. they're exactly for that purpose :)
[16:21] <beuno> karni, no, I think the wiki is fine
[16:21] <beuno> blueprints on launchpad have a lot of overhead
[16:23] <karni> aha got it
[16:46] <karni> beuno: ack on what I wrote on the wiki? :) (if you're off duty today, that's fine ; )
[16:48] <beuno> let me look!
[16:49] <beuno> karni, looksgood
[16:49] <karni> beuno: thank you
[16:50] <karni> beuno: I'll update you with an apk asap I'm done with sync. today/tomorrow
[16:50] <beuno> karni, sounds great, looking forward to testing
[16:50] <karni> beuno: ok! :)
[18:15] <karni> verterok: Hi verterok. I think the OIOConnector::run() shouldn't catch IOException, perhaps even StorageProtocolError - instead of getting a (possibly re-thrown) failure in Ping deferred, I just get stack trace pinged and deferred still invokes callback instead of errback, although the "java.io.IOException: Write error: I/O error during system call, Broken pipe"
[18:16] <karni> verterok: So I'd like to consult that with you. I have to get those Failure(s) to know when should I reconnect.
[19:28] <karni> beuno: o oh.. that I kinda didn't expect. so when I edit myfavfile.txt on my PC, the next delta for the phone contains "myfavfile.txt is dead", and then "new myfavfile.txt is alive" -- that said, the first step removes the "this is my favourite!" from the items meta cached on the phone. I'll have to revise that :/
[19:29] <karni> so *that's* the thing very different from the PC - partial sync. only favourites. ok.. will come up with something.
[19:33] <karni> ok, I have a solution. just another column in the db, and remove the dead files *after* the sync process. thus, fav file might only flip isLive: true -> false -> true, and not be deleted
[21:20] <karni> verterok: What also interests me is - if I modify a file on my PC, I get four volumeNewGenerationCallback's with consecutive numbers: for example 79, 80, 81, 82 - where do so many changes come from? even if the server substitutes that modified file, it's just delete+receive, just two.
[21:21] <karni> verterok: I'm asking so that I don't make unnecessary operations, if those callbacks are invoked so many times. i.e. generation number increases so fast.
[21:46] <verterok> karni: I'm not at home ATM, would you mind sending this by mail so I don't lose the questions?
[21:46] <karni> verterok: I will, np!
[21:49] <verterok> karni: thx, now I'm back to non-work mode
[21:49] <verterok> later!
[21:49] <karni> ^ ^
[21:49] <karni> verterok: bye!
[22:09] <karni> beuno: I have mailed aquarius, guillermo, and you in Cc , with a question concerning nitty-gritty details of the U1 sync, which we could use to perform selective sync. It was a little suprize to me that a modified file changes it's nodeId (but at least a renamed folder doesn't).