[04:39] <ScottL> it seems like both the amd64 and i386 ubuntustudio ISOs are bombing during the software installation
[04:39] <ScottL> drops to clear screen with "sigterm" at the bottom of the screen
[04:39] <ScottL> i'll check about bug reports with alternate discs later
[04:40] <ScottL> tomorrow i go to my dad's with the kids (and dogs)
[04:40] <ScottL> but i'm on vacation next week so i should be able to get some stuff down :)
[04:58] <holstein> ScottL ailo 
[04:58] <holstein> i got around to testing firewire in natty again
[04:58] <holstein> -lowlatency seems OK
[04:58] <holstein> i only have jack installed
[04:58] <holstein> i'll have to install something and give it a workout
[04:59] <holstein> BUT it starts and runs normally
[04:59] <holstein> no xruns
[04:59] <holstein> yet
[11:58] <ScottL> holstein, awesome!
[11:58] <ScottL> so it would seem that you are saying the -generic kernel doesn't work with firewire but the -lowlatency does?
[11:58] <ScottL> did you have to do any extra tweaks to get it to work compared to normally?
[11:59] <ScottL> i'm afraid i'm aware of the new firewire/kernel stack from reading the FFADO website, but do not understand it completely on a fundamental level
[11:59] <ScottL> heading to my dad's this morning, so i'll be away for a day or so
[12:00] <ScottL> well, two days
[16:36] <holstein> ScottL: im running out in a minute
[16:36] <holstein> BUT
[16:36] <holstein> i just tried the generic kernel
[16:36] <holstein> out of the box
[16:36] <holstein> running sudo qjackctl
[16:36] <holstein> then, i installed the -lowlatency
[16:36] <holstein> ran sudo qjackctl
[16:36] <holstein> and it runs as expected
[16:36] <holstein> i wanted that to be the only varialbe
[16:37] <holstein> i wanted that to be the only variable *
[16:37] <ailo> holstein: Ok, so it's definitely only the Maverick generic kernel that does not work.
[16:38] <holstein> ailo: that was natty
[16:38] <holstein> too
[16:38] <holstein> both
[16:38] <holstein> BUT i did more tweaks in the maverick install
[16:38] <holstein> and i wanted to make sure that didnt influence the outcome
[16:38] <ailo> I don't understand. Maverick does not work with generic, right? But Natty does, no?
[16:39] <holstein> OH
[16:39] <holstein> neither
[16:39] <holstein> -lowlatency works with natty
[16:39] <ailo> ok
[16:39] <holstein> i added that one in natty and tried it
[16:39] <holstein> i just jumped to -realtime in maverick
[16:40] <ailo> But Natty should be a problem anyway because of cgroups, which makes rt impossible.
[16:40] <ailo> How about usermode natty/-lowlatency? ffado-rules?
[16:41] <holstein> i'll have to tweak that as normal user
[16:41] <holstein> and see
[16:41] <holstein> ailo: ill ping you when i get to that
[16:42] <ailo> I'm proposing to use the list for specific devices.
[16:42] <holstein> so i can do it in some logical order
[16:42] <ailo> I could check that it's complete.
[16:42] <holstein> bbl... gotta run see if my LUG meeting is off or not