[01:33] holstein: you in? [02:02] tanders12: hey [02:02] w0w [02:02] sooperlooper is FUN [02:57] holstein: listened to your openmusician podcast today [02:57] and read your blog [03:01] AH [03:11] good stuff [03:12] ive played violin for 10 years and never understood hardly any theory [03:12] but now that im learning guitar i figure it's about time [03:25] tanders12: hey, thanks :) [03:25] feel free and comment at the blog and ask whatever [03:39] yeah np [03:39] i love theory. almost makes me wanna switch my major. i would if there was any money in teaching [05:50] holstein: hey you still around? [05:51] tanders12: yo [05:51] wanna help me troubleshoot my xruns? :D [05:51] did you say you have a TI chipset? [05:52] the other one is looking at [05:52] cat /proc/interrupts [05:53] and see what all is on the same IRQ as the firewire [05:53] 16: 564157 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi firewire_ohci, yenta, i915 [05:53] what's an irg? [05:53] IRQ** [05:54] OH yeah [05:54] nvr [05:54] i remember looking at that with tou [05:54] it means interrupt request [05:54] yenta is the PCMCIA [05:54] and i915 is graphic [05:54] lol i had the page open in my browser that explains irqs [05:54] yeah you're right [05:54] we did look at it [05:54] probably not great that graphics and the firewire are together [05:54] that can matter [05:54] how much? [05:54] who knows [05:54] just a little [05:55] atm i don't even have an rt kernel running [05:55] OH [05:55] that'll do it [05:55] that'll help [05:55] RT kernel [05:55] the IRQ thing [05:55] yeah [05:55] and realistic expectations [05:55] i can get down to 1.2 [05:55] is natty rt kernel the only way to go for maverick? [05:56] ms? [05:56] but i cant run a whole bunch of stuff like that [05:56] yeah [05:56] wow [05:56] i have different profiles [05:56] me want :) [05:56] one for around 2.4ms [05:56] thats for realtime processing/live-softsynths [05:56] i don't need to run much, but tracking is important so I really need to get the lat down [05:56] then i have a kinda general purpose one [05:57] around 12ms [05:57] and a really high one [05:57] pretty sure my af4 doesn't have hardware monitoring [05:57] around 60ms or so [05:57] for mixing [05:57] hm [05:57] when i have all kinds of plugins going [05:57] and JAMin [05:57] i set my buffer to 1024 and was still gettin xruns [05:57] tanders12: OH [05:57] thats not good [05:57] things like minimizing ardour would through an xrun [05:57] BUT try the other kernel [05:58] i might get an xrun opening an app [05:58] yeah about that [05:58] but when its running, its stable [05:58] how's your natty kernel working out? [05:58] OH [05:58] i installed the -lowlatency one [05:58] from abogani's PPA [05:58] seems OK [05:58] on maverick? or are you running natty? [05:58] that was natty [05:59] i wanted to test it out in there [05:59] natty alpha or just the natty kernel? [05:59] both [05:59] i dont have anything installed there though [05:59] other than JACK [05:59] i wouldn't mind trying out natyy [05:59] so ill have acutally try something over there soon [06:00] BUT it seemed to load and run like normal [06:00] at around 5ms latency [06:00] no xruns [06:00] yeah the install im on right now is a 20gb partition dedicated for an audio testbed [06:00] the maverick install seems stable too [06:00] with that kernel i suggested to you [06:00] with the natty kernel? [06:00] yup [06:00] the -realtime one [06:00] you have that link again? [06:00] i didnt try the other one [06:00] sure... [06:01] http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick [06:01] tanders12: you can try the low-latency one first if you want [06:01] thats the one i had in natty [06:02] meh [06:02] wifi was working with it and all [06:02] if thats important [06:02] im sure the RT one is a little better [06:02] id just as soon go for broke. like i said this install is dedicated to audio [06:02] oh thats actually a good point [06:02] hell, try em both [06:02] wont hurt [06:02] they'll just be there in GRUB [06:02] and you can choose [06:02] wont hurt anything [06:03] you can always find em in synaptic and zap them if you want [06:03] my test box has a scrolling GRUB menu now ;) [06:03] i got 5 kernels in lucid, 2 in maverick and 3 in natty [06:04] lol [06:04] well that settles it, the links for the lowlatency are broke [06:04] so rt it is [06:04] hmmm [06:04] i just DL'd them today [06:04] btw, is there a difference between linux-rt and linux-realtime? [06:04] 32bit? [06:04] yah [06:04] tanders12: not really [06:04] linux-rt was the official one [06:05] in the repos [06:05] when it was there [06:05] i think abogani just used -realtime for the testing branch he was making [06:05] tanders12: those links are working for me [06:05] weird [06:06] i can put them up here if you need [06:06] the first one works but both of the lowlatency ppa links don't [06:06] yeah, that ones bad :/ [06:07] its all good [06:07] btw off topic but patchage is the shiz [06:08] http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ [06:08] you said the realtime headers didnt't install for you either, didnt you? [06:08] oh yeah [06:08] http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-lowlatency/ [06:09] probably just a bad link that guy copied and pasted [06:09] whats meta? [06:09] i didnt DL the lowlatency from there earlier [06:09] i just added it [06:10] tanders12: meta-data ? maybe [06:10] im not too sure about building kernels [06:10] and what all the components do/are [06:10] you probably just need the image and header [06:12] im confused [06:12] by all those files ;) [06:12] do i want kernel-image* or just straight image*? [06:12] and what does pae mean? [06:13] http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-lowlatency/linux-headers-2.6.37-11-lowlatency_2.6.37-11.25~ppa1_i386.deb [06:13] abogani's a busy guy... [06:13] i386 is you [06:13] yeah [06:14] PAE is physical adress extension [06:14] hm [06:14] im not totally sure what all that entails [06:14] BUT [06:14] you can run over 4 GBs of ram [06:14] on a 32bit box [06:14] IF the motherboard supports PAE [06:14] i have used a PAE kernel before though [06:15] ah ok [06:15] id really love to build a dedicated audio machine, rather than running off this lapto [06:16] eh [06:16] someday maybe :) [06:16] i like laptops [06:16] if they are powerful enough [06:16] they tend to be quieter [06:16] yeah [06:16] and more portable [06:16] is that what you run? [06:17] somebody gave me a desktop box [06:17] and it ended up being quiet [06:17] ah [06:17] some emachines [06:17] lol [06:17] that has decent specs [06:17] i like it alright actually [06:17] i have a decent netbook too [06:17] im toying with the idea of buiding a fanless/"silent" pc based of the new AMD fusions for audio [06:18] that i can use the firepod wih [06:18] with* [06:18] and a larger notebook im trying to save [06:18] and access to a macbook if i need [06:18] tanders12: ive always wanted to do that [06:18] fanless [06:18] ive got a couple old p4s laying around but I wasnt sure if they could handle audio [06:18] yeah [06:18] they can [06:19] i had a P4 box doing it til recently actually [06:19] actually did my first arch install on one [06:19] nice :) [06:19] maybe ill go all the way and try to get it running with my hardware [06:19] man i love all the software available for audio for linux [06:20] its great [06:20] are there any limitations, other than commercial VST, vs windoze and mac? [06:20] so many options [06:20] hardware really [06:20] thats it usually [06:20] yeah [06:20] ardour doesnt limit anything [06:20] usb 2.0 [06:20] sooperlooper too [06:21] you can just keep adding whatever til you're machine cries ;) [06:21] im really hoping linux gets in on usb 3.0 audio [06:21] not sure about USB 2.0 [06:21] but im not a fan of the USB audio anyways [06:21] linux support for it in the audio world is 0 [06:21] yeah im glad i got fw working [06:21] btw are all your fw chipsets ti or have you had luck with others? [06:22] i have a VIA that works good too [06:22] but i got TI's mostly [06:22] a couple PCI TI's im hanging on to [06:22] thats another reason i wanna keep this laptop rather than upgrading to a new one [06:22] and the VIA [06:22] that's smart [06:22] and a TI mini PCMCIA express [06:23] or whatever the call those [06:23] TI on that notebook im trying to save too [06:23] ive heard that those dont always work because they are still controlled by the main chipset? [06:23] the express cards? [06:23] yeah [06:24] not sure... i had 7 days to return this one [06:24] and it works great [06:24] hm [06:24] i got it so i could use the netbook with the firepod [06:24] and cat /proc/interrupts shows TI? [06:24] tanders12: yours? [06:25] firewire-ohci [06:25] no on yours when you run it on your netbook [06:25] i think thats going to be it [06:25] OH [06:25] id have to look [06:25] sorry [06:25] i meant [06:25] its in there somewhere [06:25] lspci [06:25] and it didnt xrun so i didnt look [06:25] yeah, its TI [06:25] cool [06:25] i searched around for it [06:26] it was 60 bucks or so too :/ [06:26] k imma reboot and try the lowlatency one. it wouldn't install the headers but the kernel installed so we'll see... [06:26] tanders12: im going to catch the new IT crowd [06:26] and then some ZZzzzZZZzz [06:26] lemme know how it goes :) [06:26] k have fun and thanks [15:22] i need help with rme digi 9652, i think it's the module that has to be fixed. any one? [15:40] anyone know how to pull up bios on an acer 5610Z,, i'm downloading 10.10 now [16:07] robert00, I would recommend you to try 10.04 instead, depending on your needs. [16:37] illspecko: im running out the door, but try #opensourcemusicians :) === JesusFreak316_ is now known as JesusFreak316