[12:10] <kklimonda> where can I read the discussion about new behaviour of the app menu in natty (i.e. it being hidden until use moves mouse over it)?
[12:11] <spikeb> no clue, i didn't know there was one
[12:11] <kklimonda> or maybe the question should be - has it actually been accepted by the Canonical UX team?
[12:12] <spikeb> I would assume so, the coders are working off designs from the UX team AFAIK
[12:12] <kklimonda> not only do I have to move my mouse over longer distance to get to the new menu position, but now I have no idea where should I point at before I move it..
[12:13] <kklimonda> so I end up moving mouse, and then reading menu positions..
[12:13] <kklimonda> and then moving it again because for some reason I can never blindly move it in the right direction.. I wonder why..
[13:34] <coz_> good day
[13:58] <AbsintheSyringe> I want to have Unity repackaged for Debian, however can anyone let me know what's Unity Team email address?
[13:58] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: good question :)
[13:59] <AbsintheSyringe> kklimonda, everyone's telling me that :)
[13:59] <AbsintheSyringe> I could put 5 upstream authors but that would be kinda lame
[13:59] <AbsintheSyringe> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/annotate/head:/AUTHORS
[13:59] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: can you ask it tomorrow (or generally, during the working week)? As you have probably already noticed most of the Unity team (as well as Canonical in general) aren't here during weekends :)
[14:00] <AbsintheSyringe> kklimonda, okay :)
[14:00] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: ubuntu package do have all 5 (or even 6) authors mentioned in the changelog
[14:01] <kklimonda> d/copyright*
[14:04] <AbsintheSyringe> kklimonda, yea, but I'm sent this as ITP in Debian, and I want to have the Upstream Author field as : Unity Team <one@email.com>
[14:05] <AbsintheSyringe> at the moment I even thought of putting ayatana email but I guess I'll just wait till tomorrow
[14:06] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: is the Upstream Author field supposed to point to the point of contact for the given project?
[14:07] <AbsintheSyringe> yep
[14:07] <AbsintheSyringe> that's why I don't want to have 5 authors listed
[14:07] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: either ayatana or ayatana-dev ML would fit that description as both are read by Unity developers.
[14:07] <AbsintheSyringe> there you, I thought well then :)
[14:07] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: (and by sabdfl, who is the person who makes decisions about the project)
[14:08] <AbsintheSyringe> also I was told to join ayatana team in debian http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-ayatana
[14:08] <kklimonda> so I guess ayatana (which is afair more avtive ML between those two) is a good upstream contact address
[14:09] <AbsintheSyringe> ok, so could I have ayatana-dev email address?
[14:09] <AbsintheSyringe> or even "regular" one could do I guess
[14:10] <kklimonda> ayatana-dev (mailing list is for technical discussions, including implementation questions) is ayatana-dev@lists.launchpad.net
[14:10] <kklimonda> ayatana (mailing list is for design related discussions) is ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
[14:11] <AbsintheSyringe> so which one do you advise me to go with? this is about implementation into debian after all
[14:13] <AbsintheSyringe> personally I'm thinking to go just with -dev
[14:13] <kklimonda> AbsintheSyringe: ayatana-dev would be a better bet imo - it's more technical
[14:13] <AbsintheSyringe> kklimonda, right on, tnx :)
[18:04] <deltrem> When is the first beta coming?
[18:06] <deltrem> the first beta of Ubuntu with Unity
[18:06] <deltrem> When is it coming?
[18:09] <deltrem> Please, tell me the release date of the first beta of Ubuntu with Unity! Thanks.
[18:10] <deltrem> If there's no release date, then tell me when you think release date will be.
[18:10] <deltrem> *the release date
[18:11] <deltrem> ok, I'm going to wait
[18:18] <kklimonda> !schedule
[18:18] <deltrem> I know, I know... but the beta!
[18:18] <kklimonda> deltrem: you will find the detailed schedule somewhere on those pages
[20:57] <coz_> apparenlty  VBE mode auto detection breaks  for my 7300gt   ..where should I ask for this.. otherwise impossible to install natty and reboot
[20:58] <coz_> this card needs to be blacklisted  for autodetection