[00:00] <homero_simpsons> hola
[00:01] <homero_simpsons> exit
[00:06] <rtdos> is there a way to protect my .kde settings when i'm using a different desktop ?
[00:16] <shane4ubuntu> rtdos: you could move the folder with mv .kde .kdesaftey  or something, then it would in theory give you the generic defualt setup for that distro/desktop
[00:16] <shane4ubuntu> I'm not 100% how safe that is, but a thought.
[00:17] <rtdos> i never thought of that. make a backup copy of my .kde folder? ah, got some script writing to learn. :)
[00:18] <nyl> ey can someone tell me the repository and package name so i can isntall kde 4.6 on my ubuntu system?
[00:18] <nyl> install
[00:19]  * shane4ubuntu perks up for that info!
[00:21] <Snowhog> !kubuntu-ppa/beta
[00:22] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: how much risk factor 1-10   1 being safe 10 being risky?
[00:24] <Snowhog> See http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2
[00:25] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: If you have a stable system now, and you want to keep it stable, don't upgrade to KDE 4.6 while it is still BETA.
[00:25] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: yeah, I like stability, I will wait, usually around RC2 or so I don't mind jumping on board.
[00:26] <oscar> do u like ubuntu
[00:26] <oscar> i just got i
[00:26] <oscar> t
[00:26] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: I wait for a new KDE to be released 'Final' and even then, wait a week or two before upgrading.
[00:27] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: yeah, that is even more stable than what I do, I like being on the edge, and don't mind minor probs.
[00:30] <sithlord48> yeah, i got natty working on my netbook :O)
[00:40] <Exilant> Hi, I'm using kubuntu maverick with the kubuntu ppa. The new device notifier is not working for me(empty although usb drives are inserted), can someone point me towards either a solution or debug possibilities?
[00:59] <ari-tczew> how can I use kwalletmanager for remember my ssh key password?
[01:08] <ecinx> i'm on natty
[01:09] <shane4ubuntu> anyone use Basket (note pad thing) I have used it before, I tried to import my tomboy notes, but it didn't seem to work?
[01:09] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: basket is cool :)
[01:09] <Daskreech> ari-tczew: for the KDE apps?
[01:10] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: yes, I agree, however I can't import my tomboy notes, :(
[01:10] <ari-tczew> Daskreech: for bzr
[01:10] <Daskreech> oh.
[01:10] <Daskreech> Wasn't aware there was a bzr KDE app
[01:18] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: Tomboy notes are supposed to be importable, according to the info on Basket's home page. What version of Basket, and what version of Tomboy are you using?
[01:34] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: Basket version 1.0.cmake  (from repos)
[01:35] <shane4ubuntu> Tomboy 1.4.2
[01:37] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: Basket 2.0~beta1 is installable from the standard repos. You're using an older version (unless you are not running Kubuntu 10.10?)
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: no, I'm running 10.10, and regular repos?
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552011/
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> hmm, odd
[01:39] <ecinx> how do i compile kile?
[01:39] <ecinx> and which should i donwload *.tar.gz or *.tar.bz2
[01:39] <shane4ubuntu> ecinx: they are probably the same, just one is compressed more
[01:39] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: According to apt-cache policy basket, 2.0~beta1-0ubuntu1 in in the universe repository.
[01:40] <shane4ubuntu> ecinx: there should be a readme in the file to give instructions how compiling
[01:40] <ecinx> shane4ubuntu:  thx
[01:40] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: that is odd, I haven't done anything fancy like pinning and extra ppa's with my system, so I should have the latest.
[01:41] <Snowhog> Snowhog: But you 'built' your Basket from source, yes?
[01:41] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: ok, I fired up synaptic and it is showing 2.0!beta12-0ubuntu basket
[01:41] <shane4ubuntu> seems to be a version conflict depending on where you get your info.
[01:55] <ecinx> I don't think i compiled this correctly
[02:37] <Bauldrick> anyone in here awake?
[02:37] <Bauldrick> earlier updates fooked my networkmanager (kept dropping off, having to re-authorize) - I reverted to wicd, but that doesn't play nicely with statit IP address it seems...
[02:39] <Daskreech> static?
[02:42] <Bauldrick> it seems - doesn;t authenticate unless I use dhcp -
[02:56] <veovis_muaddib> In the folder view plasmoid and in Dolphin, how do I turn off the icon that shows symbolic links?  I'd also like to remove the italics, but that's not a huge deal
[03:06] <veovis_muaddib> If I can't "remove" the arrow on linked items, can I at least theme it to a transparent image?
[03:09] <Daskreech> Bauldrick: which updates did you install?
[03:10] <Daskreech> veovis_muaddib: probably. Although I think the KDE system takes a standard icon and overlays images on top of it as needed. Perhaps ask in #plasma ?
[03:11] <veovis_muaddib> Daskreech: Yeah, I want to make the overlay transparent
[03:11] <veovis_muaddib> Daskreech: Thanks, I'll ask in there
[03:11] <Daskreech> Ah yeah you could just move the icon that it's looking for or replace it with a 1x1 alpha  png
[03:27] <Guest1666> hi i need help can anyone help me
[03:28] <Guest1666> is someone there
[03:42] <elkng> how can I download package with all dependencies without installation ?
[03:48] <Snowhog> elkng: From a console just type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install package_name --download-only
[03:54] <elkng> Snowhog: thanks
[04:39] <FloridaGuy> 2.8 ghz 64 bit dual core cpu...1gig ram....64 bit or 32 bit version of kubuntu
[04:40] <Snowhog> FloridaGuy: Use either one - both will work on your 64-bit CPU.
[04:40] <gr8m8> FloridaGuy:  if you don't do heaps of large mathematical computations I would go for the 32bit
[04:40] <precubcr> hy
[04:40] <precubcr> need help pls
[04:40] <gr8m8> just less hassle setting up
[04:40] <precubcr> trying to install nvidia driver on maverik
[04:40] <precubcr> how ?
[04:41] <precubcr> cant do it ..
[04:41] <precubcr> says x is still runing
[04:41] <gr8m8> you need to do   pkill X   in a tty
[04:41] <precubcr> hoy ?
[04:41] <precubcr> killall x
[04:41] <precubcr> ?
[04:42] <FloridaGuy> Snowhog: gr8m8: some say with only 1gig ram..use the 32 bit..then others say...use cpu to its full
[04:42] <precubcr> pls ?
[04:42] <precubcr> anybody =
[04:43] <gr8m8> precubcr:  either killall or pkill
[04:43] <precubcr> the exact command pls ?
[04:43] <precubcr> i am new in kubuntu
[04:43] <gr8m8> you need to do   pkill X   in a tty
[04:43] <precubcr> i got there, made me root
[04:43] <precubcr> and put killall x
[04:43] <FloridaGuy> precubcr: or install the nvidia in the repo
[04:43] <precubcr> and eve so it dindt let me
[04:44] <precubcr> florida how is that ?
[04:44] <gr8m8> !nvidia
[04:45] <gr8m8> yes the end user owned the cat
[04:45] <gr8m8> oops
[04:45] <FloridaGuy> precubcr: in your kmenu you should see an icon that says drivers or hardware..something like that...open that...click the one that says recomended..and click activate
[06:24] <Maccer> Hey #kubuntu, I don't want to beg for #ubuntu help in the official kubuntu irc, but I kind of have to. Would anyone be as so kind to help me with my ubuntu problem? It's boot related.
[06:43] <geekosopher> !anyone | Maccer
[06:43] <Maccer> Sorry geekosopher, it's just the #kubuntu channel. :(
[06:44] <geekosopher> Maccer: I didn't get you, is your problem not related to Kubuntu?
[06:45] <Maccer> No, but that's why I was trying to politely ask.
[06:46] <geekosopher> Maccer: then why not ask the real question, and see if someone can help
[06:49] <Maccer> geekosopher: It comes in a form of a link ( http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10334000#post10334000 )
[07:00] <valorie> Maccer: did you check the liveCD before trying it out?
[07:00] <valorie> sounds to me like part of the system isn't loaded
[07:00] <valorie> the driver bits
[07:00] <Maccer> valorie: The last time I did, it had the same problem as stated.
[07:01] <valorie> interesting
[07:01] <valorie> I'm not very technical, so I can't really help
[07:01] <valorie> unfortunately
[07:01] <Maccer> Well thanks for helping me anyways, even though it's in the wrong channel.
[07:02] <valorie> I'll bet you get an answer soon on the forum though
[07:02] <valorie> even though it's saturday night/sunday morning
[08:00] <IcarianHeights> s
[11:05] <swmony> hey
[11:56] <donniezazen> Hi all, i just started using Kubuntu. I have been a long time Gnome user. the fonts looks messed up - small thin not-so-smooth like ubuntu. any help please?
[12:01] <valorie> they look great to me, donniezazen -- can you tell us what version of kubuntu, and what fonts you are using?
[12:02] <valorie> maybe a screenshot or two?
[12:02] <donniezazen> i am using maverick with ubuntu fonts
[12:03] <valorie> ah, me too
[12:07] <donniezazen> http://picasaweb.google.com/sudhirskhanger/TechFiles#
[12:08] <donniezazen> here is the link @valorie http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x6Pw2gKZ-nt3i59uyth0Rw?feat=directlink
[12:09] <valorie> looks rather blurry to me, but that might be just the nature of the screenshot
[12:09] <valorie> in systemsettings, you might be able to change some settings that will help
[12:09] <valorie> unfortunately, I know little about fonts and other settings like that
[12:10] <donniezazen> What does anti-aliasing means?
[12:10] <donniezazen> ok thanks valorie
[12:11] <valorie> anti-aliasing makes it smoother
[12:13] <donniezazen> hmm let me try it. Fonts looks boxed and small
[12:32] <vita_> Hello. I have issue with Thumbnails in Dolphin in Natty.
[12:33] <vita_> I have installed mplayerthumbs (or something like that), enabled it in Dolphin, but thumbnails are not created.
[12:33] <vita_> Any ideas what to do?
[12:33] <donniezazen> what does hinting?
[12:34] <Liontov> hi
[12:34] <vita_> donniezazen: What do you mean?
[12:35] <Liontov> sorry,,,I am new here...anyone may help me?
[12:36] <donniezazen> I meant font hinting. Thanks i should have googled it before. i got it.
[12:38] <Liontov> hi
[12:38] <vita_> donniezazen: Yes. Googel/Wikipedia are allways good start.
[12:38] <vita_> Google
[12:38] <donniezazen> yeah sometime it gets too technical thanks vita
[12:39] <donniezazen> i am new to kubuntu any good guide to beautifying kubuntu
[12:41] <vita_> donniezazen: Guide? Go to systemsettings and wal through it. There is also button "Get hot new stuff" or something like that. It will allow you to search and install various themes/walpapers ...
[12:41] <vita_> wallpapers
[12:44] <donniezazen> vita thanks
[12:58] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[13:20] <ecinx> How do i make my terminal scrreen have colors like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tar_screenshot.png for example
[13:27] <vita_> ecinx: google ".profile linux"
[13:27] <ecinx> ty
[13:30] <ecinx> I'm trying to extract someting
[13:30] <ecinx> and it's not working for me :(
[13:31] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/rUCK8JpC
[13:32] <vita_> use "tar xjf ..."
[13:32] <vita_> see "man tar'
[13:34] <ecinx> thanks
[13:34] <ecinx> i think that worked
[13:56] <GWild> hello
[13:56] <GWild> I run 10.04 64 and need to turn off automount of USB devices
[13:56] <GWild> system settings --> advanced --> removable devices does not work
[13:57] <GWild> all (except / /boot /home) area deselected
[13:57] <GWild> and every time I plug in a USB device the system mounts is as root
[13:57] <GWild> I want to turn off automatic mounting....
[13:57] <GWild> any suggestions?
[14:01] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: hi
[14:01] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Hello
[14:01] <GWild> Firebird Raceway outside Phoenix......
[14:01] <GWild> Been thre
[14:01] <GWild> there*
[14:02] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: i have no idea what you are talking about
[14:02] <GWild> Firebird is a Race Track outside Phoenix AZ USA
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: "system settings --> advanced --> removable devices does not work" , after doing that is that setting saved?
[14:03] <GWild> yes
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: my nick has no connection with that
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you paste your fstab?
[14:04] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: sure, sec
[14:06] <GWild> http://pastebin.com/DMDtXnF9
[14:06] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd:
[14:06] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: http://pastebin.com/DMDtXnF9
[14:06] <GWild> sorry
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: kde version?
[14:08] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: 4.4.5
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: is this your removable drive "/dev/sdb3"?
[14:11] <GWild> no - no removable are in the fstab
[14:11] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I have sdb1/2/3 on a single drive
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: ok
[14:11] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: for /, /boot, and swap
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: fstab is normal
[14:13] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: what is your removable drive file system?
[14:14] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: vfat
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you wait
[14:18] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: did you restart after saving your settings?
[14:20] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Yes
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: did you use any third party softwares?
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: like ntfs-config, pysdm?
[14:24] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: not any of those - but I do have VirtualBox PEUL installed.
[14:35] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you paste /etc/udev/udev.conf
[14:36] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: You got me thinking and I found something I don't remember installing: USBMount
[14:36] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I believe that to be my problem.  I uninstalled it and the system settings appear to be working
[14:37] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: embarrassing that I don't remember installing that.....
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: good
[14:37] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I appreciate the assistance - thanks.
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: welcome
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:04] <kubutu> amarok 2.3.9 in tha last few days segfaulting in natty.  Any ideas?  re-installed and still the same.
[15:06] <rork> kubutu: questions about software in Natty ought to be asked in #ubuntu+1 , you can also check launchpad for bug reports
[17:59] <drbobb> kpackagekit segfaulting on kde4.6 RC2 - a known issue?
[19:13] <morpheus_pl> Greetings, I have a problem with desktop launch and search container - the search plugins like calculate or nepomuk doesn't seems to work, however in krunner everything is working perfectly. Any ideas ? Kde 4.5.5
[19:17] <dac> join#ubuntu
[19:20] <marion> good morning afternoon or night depending on were you all live
[19:21] <marion> does anyone know what i do to fix this
[19:21] <marion> wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:24] <jillsmitt> hello
[19:24] <jillsmitt> how to create wifi access point?
[19:25] <MontanaX69> Hi all
[19:30] <James147> jillsmitt: create? or connect to?
[19:33] <marion> is anyone familiar with wine?
[19:33] <James147> !ask | marion
[19:34] <marion> how do i fix wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:34] <James147> marion: how did you install mono?
[19:34] <marion> i dont know how to install mono
[19:34] <jillsmitt> James147: thanks, i know how... red man
[19:35] <James147> marion: ahh :) then run "winetricks mono26"
[19:35] <James147> that should install it for the default prefix
[19:35] <marion> just type that in?
[19:35] <James147> marion: to a terminal, yes
[19:36] <marion> winetricks: command not found
[19:37] <James147> marion: make sure you have the latest version http://www.winehq.org/download/deb  (
[19:38] <James147> marion: if that still dosent install it then you get get the script from here: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks  (well, it will tell you how to get it)
[19:40] <hellslinger> any kubuntu users have an unknown runlevel in maverick?
[19:42] <yofel> hellslinger: we don't use sys-v-init anymore so I'm not sure what runlevel it's supposed to return
[19:43] <yofel> probably still 2
[19:43] <hellslinger> yeah
[19:43] <hellslinger> there are things that aren't starting up that should be
[19:43] <hellslinger> and I had this problem back in 10.04
[19:43] <hellslinger> the same solution doesn't work
[19:44] <yofel> hm, you could add --verbose to the kernel command line, that will make upstart verbose, and it should make it log the boot to /var/log/boot.log (I think)
[19:44] <hellslinger> oh excellent!
[19:44] <hellslinger> very helpful, thanks
[19:48] <marion> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552271/
[19:50] <James147> marion: make sure apt-get, aptitude or any other package managment isen running
[19:51] <marion> kpackage is closed
[19:51] <marion> is there something like task manager for linux
[19:52] <James147> marion: press alt+escape
[19:52] <James147> ctrl even ^^
[19:52] <James147> ctrl+esc
[20:34] <marion> ok so finaly got mono installed now heres something i did not know. NO USB SUPPORT
[20:34] <marion> I am a sad man
[20:35] <James147> marion: in wine? what are you trying to do with the usb?
[20:36] <marion> read my flash drive that is formatted for xbox
[20:36] <marion> cause i have a program running in wine that reads the xbox file system
[20:36] <James147> marion: then mount it in kubuntu then run "winecfg" and map the mount point to the drive you want wine to see it as
[20:37] <James147> (you may just need to clcik "auto detect" o the drives page of winecfg)
[20:38] <marion> explain please i do not understand
[20:39] <James147> marion: make sure the flash stick is mounted (opening in dolphin should be enough) run "winecfg" then once it opens click on the "drives" tab
[20:40] <James147> marion: then click "auto detect" and check to see if it found it... or add an entry for it manually
[20:42] <marion> do add /media/disk
[20:42] <marion> ??
[20:42] <James147> mendred_: yes
[20:42] <James147> (assuming thats where its mounted)
[20:42] <marion> thats what it says in properties
[20:45] <marion> james i just need to have you on like speed dial or something
[20:45] <James147> :)
[20:46] <James147> i am here most of the time
[20:46] <marion> care to walk me through getting unrar to work properly
[20:46] <James147> :S whats not working about it (not that i know much about unrar)
[20:47] <marion> seriously thats the one thing you cant help me with?
[20:47] <marion> i dont know what to do to unpack a rar file
[20:47] <James147> marion: use ark
[20:47] <shane4ubuntu> marion unrar e package.rar
[20:47] <James147> marion: (or in dolphin right click the file and click extract)
[20:48] <James147> ^^ or that
[20:48] <marion> ark crashes
[20:48] <James147> :(
[20:48] <James147> then what shane4ubuntu said should work
[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> or unrar x package.rar    x is full path, and e is extract files to current directory.
[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> I don't really understand the difference, but think that e is safer, just unpacks it in the directory I'm in.
[20:49] <marion> k let me try that
[20:50] <marion> so first i need to cd /home/marion/Downloads/FFXII correct?
[20:50] <shane4ubuntu> right
[20:50] <James147> marion: assuming thats where you want to extract to then yes
[20:52] <marion> do i have to chmod it?
[20:52] <marion> cause all 3 files failed to extract
[20:52] <James147> marion: hmm, any error?
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> marion: then probably the rar is bad, rar tends to check the files before extracting them.
[20:53] <James147> (as long as its readble by you then i would say it should work... assuming the archive isent currpt)
[20:53] <shane4ubuntu> rar has a built in checking method and if one archive is bad, missing or incomplete, it will fail.
[20:53] <marion> damn it i wanna hack my game this is becoming more and more difficult by the second
[20:54] <James147> marion: i would try redownloading the archive if you can
[20:54] <James147> and doing an md5sum on it (assuming they provide you what one)
[20:54] <marion> but the executable file that was in the zip the rar was in worked fine
[21:00] <TheGentleman> Hello!  Pls help: in my kubuntu maverik i'm not able to make the bar menu appear anymore. Nor moving the mouse pointer to the lower side of screen, nor pointing at any other side of screen. Moreover clicking on any icon on screen does nothing!  I could open xchat and join this channel using Alt F2
[21:02] <TheGentleman> I think i was distracted by telphone ancd clicked something on the lower bar without realizing what i did....
[21:03] <TheGentleman> System is nearly unusable now: pls help
[21:04] <James147> TheGentleman: did you open the widget dashboard? (is the screen slightly grey?)
[21:04] <TheGentleman> James147, I do not think so. the screen looks normal
[21:05] <James147> TheGentleman: have your tryed loggin out and back in again?
[21:05] <TheGentleman> yes James147 and the problem persists
[21:06] <James147> hmm, i suggest you try creating a new user and seeing if it happens with them (never seen that happen before :S )
[21:07] <rtdos> is there a list of command line only applications somewhere?
[21:07] <TheGentleman> ok James147, I have a "guest" user. will try that. But it has no rights to modify anything on my normal session.
[21:07] <James147> TheGentleman: thats fine, its just to see if its your user or the system
[21:08] <James147> rtdos: google? there are allot of them, its not east to create a list :)
[21:08] <marion> hah i wine installed rar and unpacked the file
[21:09] <James147> rtdos: unless there is something specific you need i cant relly give you much more info
[21:14] <rtdos> James147, I was just wondering if there was a way to grep the repository list for text based apps?
[21:14] <TheGentleman> back
[21:15] <James147> rtdos: possibally, not sure how though
[21:15] <TheGentleman> James147,  the other user works fine. It is only on my session where the desktop is fuked up
[21:17] <James147> TheGentleman: then its most likly a currpt config file... no clue which one though :)   i would suggest starting with kwin and plasma though (they can be found in ~/.kde/share/config)
[21:17] <James147> TheGentleman: delete or rename the config to resset them to teh default settings
[21:17] <James147> (you might need to restar the application or logout and back in)
[21:18] <TheGentleman> going to try that James147
[21:18]  * James147 notes that you can renmae the .kde dir to see if theproblem lies in there, then you can rename it back and either hunt inside or outside of that folder)
[21:19] <TheGentleman> k
[21:19]  * James147 is going to be back in abit ^^ will get any messages when i come back if you highlght me :)
[21:26] <kayleigh> hi all wonder if any one can help me with some IM problems?
[21:31] <rork> !anyone | kayleigh
[21:32] <rtdos> James147, is there a way to get all applications in command line mode?
[21:32] <rtdos> ...without using grep ?
[21:32] <kayleigh> i am new to kubuntu 10.10, i can not get any im service to work at all, hve connection to internet but every app i try for im fails|
[21:33] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: all applications as in all installed apps?
[21:33] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: so ... whats the issue in kopete? which service?
[21:34] <kayleigh> used kopete, failed to connect used aMSN fail, used Kmess fail??? i am lost now
[21:34] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: dude ... which service? :)
[21:34] <kshadeslayer_> gtalk? MSN? AOL?
[21:34] <BluesKaj> well, kshadeslayer_ , I finally gave up on rekonq ...it's too clunky for me , or I just don't "get it" , in terms of the logic behind the setup procedures
[21:35] <kayleigh> msn sorry must read more!!!
[21:35] <kshadeslayer_> BluesKaj: heh .... it needs work :P
[21:36] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: and which kubuntu version??
[21:36] <kayleigh> 10.10
[21:37] <kshadeslayer_> oh sorry ... i didnt see that earlier ...
[21:37] <rtdos> noaXess, kshadeslayer, sorry i meant all applications available?
[21:37] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: are you using any PPA's ? or stock system?
[21:38] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: ok ... run : dpkg -l to get a list of all packages available ... and all binary apps should be in /usr/bin or /bin
[21:38] <kayleigh> er like i said i'm new too this.......whats ppa's and stock sys?
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: stock system as in .... default install ...
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> !ppa | kayleigh
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: the first thing id like you to do is check if a bug fix release of KDE fixes your issues
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.4
[21:41] <whilo> is the 4.6 backport (currently rc2) for maverick already using the raster engine?
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> whilo: nope
[21:41] <kayleigh> ah! i downloaded standard 10.10 and use the repos that came with it i'll try the bug fix brb
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> you can change it tho
[21:42] <whilo> something happened in the second half of december
[21:42] <whilo> although i still have a quite slow harddisk my ui has got really snappy
[21:42] <kayleigh> how ?
[21:42] <kshadeslayer_> that could be kwin becoming more efficient .... or something else
[21:43] <whilo> well i have used the beta for 4.6 before i  think. were some of the recent scheduler patches for the kernel backported?
[21:43] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa << follow the instructions there and the link in the channel topic
[21:43] <kshadeslayer_> whilo: nope ... PPA's just contain KDE releases
[21:44] <whilo> kshadeslayer_: sure this was a generic ubuntu question
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> oh
[21:44]  * kshadeslayer_ thinks
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> naw
[21:44] <kayleigh> so m looking for a different download of kopete?
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> would have needed a very controversial SRU
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: a bug fix release of KDE ...
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: KDE is pretty much the whole GUI you see in front of you
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> which like any other piece of software has bug fix updates
[21:45] <kayleigh> oh, mine might be broken? this is the only thing that dont work?
[21:46] <kshadeslayer_> could be could not be .... but its always advisable to have bug fix updates installed
[21:48] <kshadeslayer_> BluesKaj: btw did you try rekonq git? or the 0.6.1 release?
[21:49] <kayleigh> am lost here, drowning!!! have searched kde and millions have come back?????
[21:49] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: just install the ppa :D
[21:49] <kshadeslayer_> if it doesnt fix the issue .... then we can proceed ....
[21:53] <kayleigh> i no i'm being a pain cause i dont understand but do i copy this ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa to my repo's?
[21:56] <rtdos> thanks kshadeslayer_
[21:56] <James147> kayleigh: follow this to install it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:56] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: np
[22:00] <sfears> I trashed grub playing with the startup manager.  The stage 1 fix doesn't work and install-grub /dev/sda3 gives errors.  Can anyone help?
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: can you pastebin the grub errors?
[22:01] <yofel> sfears: which release are you using?
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> that too :)
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: i didnt know you hang out here :P
[22:02] <yofel> sure I do, I'm everywhere :P
[22:02] <sfears> Cannot create file /boot/grub/915 resolution.mod permission denied kshadeslayer_
[22:02] <sfears> Yofel 10.10.
[22:02]  * yofel wonders if grub2 has a stage1
[22:02] <sfears> I'm booted into live session
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> it doesnt
[22:03] <yofel> !grub2
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> i think he's following the old wiki :P
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> aha
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> old wiki
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 <<
[22:04] <yofel> sfears: for reinstalling grub you should follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[22:04] <James147> sfears: ^^ also, you normally install grub to a drive, not a partition (so /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 ... although you can install to sda1)
[22:04] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: that just redirects to the community page
[22:04] <sfears> I didn't trash it with windows.  I restarted before I closed startup-manager
[22:04] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yep ...
[22:04] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: old ... help page
[22:05] <yofel> heh
[22:06] <marion> James147: I get error The program FFXIII Save Editor.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close.
[22:07] <kshadeslayer_> uh ..... o_o
[22:09] <James147> marion: have you looked at http://appdb.winehq.org/  ? not all applications work with wine yet... you might also want to join #winehq for better help with wine
[22:09] <sfears> Kshadeslayer_ yorfel.  When I start the comp I have a grub> prompt
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: yes ... so you need to boot a live cd to fix that
[22:10] <sfears> I did restore using the install grub to the /mnt
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> re-install grub
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> !!!
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> grub doesnt install to /mnt ... it installs to /boot
[22:10] <sfears> Said exited with no errors
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> see thats why ..
[22:11] <sfears> I followed the directions
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: you need to install grub to /dev/sdX
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: which ones?
[22:11] <sfears> From your link
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 << that one
[22:11] <sfears> I did it correctly
[22:11] <sfears> Yeah
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: i think that page is broken as well :P
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: one sec
[22:12] <sfears> I'm just typing from a mobile.  Didn't feel like typing the whole grub command.  Swype doesn't recognized
[22:12] <yofel> really? opens fine here
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: no ... the instructions are foobared
[22:13] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: yes .. one sec
[22:13] <James147> kshadeslayer_: dont think so, they look correct
[22:13] <sfears> It seemed to work
[22:13] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: use this : http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[22:13] <sfears> Will try
[22:14] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: or use the chroot method from help page
[22:14]  * James147 notes that the other one should work... he has used it before, there is no need to chroot
[22:14] <yofel> they should still work, they just don't include a chroot
[22:14] <kshadeslayer_> chroot always works....
[22:14] <yofel> isn't always needed though
[22:15] <Exilant> For some reason my kde does not seem to recognize some hardware anymore. usb disks do not popup in the device notifier plasmoid or in dolphin, the battery monitor claims there is no battery.  Can someone point me towards a solution? I'm using kubuntu maverick (10.10) with the kubuntu ppa and kde 4.5.5.
[22:15] <kshadeslayer_> since the first method failed, id say its needed now
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: highly unlikely ... but can you check if you still have hal?
[22:16] <yofel> well, worth a try
[22:16] <sfears> Chroot fails
[22:16] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: 4.5.5 certainly depends on hal
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: what's the error?
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah ... but im just making sure
[22:17] <kshadeslayer_> that's why i said .. highly unlikely
[22:17] <yofel> yeah
[22:17] <sfears> '/bin/bash': exec format error
[22:18] <Exilant> kshadeslayer_: "hal is already the newest version.", is there maybe a kde-hal-package?
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: nope ... theres just one hal :)
[22:18] <sfears> Chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error
[22:18] <yofel> sfears: you are trying to chroot to a 64bit system from a 32bit live disk -> that's impossible
[22:18] <Exilant> i checked that kubuntu-desktop is installed, so i guess i should have all necessary packages
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: err ... by any chance ... is the install amd64 and your live usb i386?
[22:18] <sfears> Shit! Forgot... Hold
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> or vice versa
[22:19] <sfears> Sorry, public room
[22:19] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: chrooting from a 64bit live disk to a 32bit system is possible
[22:19] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: nope ... ive tried and failed many times
[22:19] <yofel> hm, odd, this should technically work fine
[22:20] <kshadeslayer_> well ... idk if our pbuilders can do it ... but it doesnt work that way on live CD's
[22:20] <yofel> sure they can, I often use i386 pbuilders herre
[22:20] <yofel> *here
[22:20] <sfears> Is there a way to do this from the grub prompt?
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah .. i happened to be in the same grub situation at one time ... couldnt chroot  from a i386 live usb into my amd64 system
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: i dont know ....
[22:21] <sfears> If I'm at the prompt it's already installed
[22:21] <yofel> if only the grub.cfg is foobared then it should be possible, but I don't know how to search for the kernel image etc.
[22:21] <yofel> at least not offhand
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: well .. theres the os-probe thingy
[22:22] <kshadeslayer_> grub uses that to detect kernels etc
[22:22] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: we're talking about grub prompt, not os-prober
[22:22] <sfears> How do I know if my livecd is 64 bit
[22:22] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah .. but cant os-prober be run from grub command prompt
[22:22] <yofel> you can boot from a grub> prompt by entering the config settings by hand (vmlinuz and initrd location and options etc.)
[22:23] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: oh? I didn't know that
[22:23] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: idk either :P
[22:23] <kshadeslayer_> im asking
[22:23] <yofel> sfears: what does uname -m return?
[22:23] <sfears> Alright... Let me boot
[22:24] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: well, I never tried, so I don't know either, but I don't think it's possible
[22:24] <yofel> there is basic ls, cat and other things though for grub2 so you can search around a bit
[22:25] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: this reminds me ... i dont have a maverick pbuilder :P
[22:25] <rork> sfears: you can use the grub commandline to find the kernel and start linux. It's explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command%20Line%20and%20Rescue%20Mode for the commands to start linux look in the rescuemode part
[22:27] <sfears> I686. Still get chroot error
[22:27] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: was your install amd64?
[22:27] <sfears> Yes
[22:28] <yofel> then you'll need to get a amd64 live disk
[22:28] <yofel> I would guess that's why grub-install failed too
[22:28] <kshadeslayer_> well ... i couldnt get it to work .... chrooting into an amd64 system with a i386 live disk
[22:28] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yep
[22:28] <yofel> that's completely impossible to get to work, a 32bit kernel can't handle 64bit addresses
[22:29] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: ah .. so 32 bit chroot's can work on amd64 systems but not the other way around ....
[22:29] <kshadeslayer_> thats why our pbuilders can work :P
[22:29] <yofel> right, the kernel will just fill the upper 32bit address space with zeroes
[22:30] <kshadeslayer_> yep
[22:30] <sfears> I'm not using the right livecd @ i686
[22:30] <sfears> ?
[22:30] <yofel> sfears: yes, you need one for amd64 (64bit)
[22:31] <sfears> Crap..ok
[22:37] <sirius_> hello everyone. i used to be a kde user wayyy back in the days of 3.x and loved every minute of it. ive been thinking of seriosly getting back into it and just finished a clean install about 30 min ago. things are going good but im haing a few minor issues that i was hoping you could help with. i installed my nvidia drivers and set up my dual screens but now it seems like the crispness of the desktop isnt as nice as compared to what it
[22:37] <sirius_>  looked like initially, plus the font looks terrible now. is there anything i can do about this?
[22:39] <James147> sirius_: you can try system settings > application appearence > fonts to edit the fonts (possibally enable/disably anti aliasing) or "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure the drivers
[22:40] <sirius_> k ty i will try
[22:44] <kayleigh> hi kshadeslayer i am bck!!!! installed ppa to my sys and have updated 161 packages, sadly kopete still dont connect?
[22:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: ok can you run kopete from a konsole?
[22:45] <Exilant> kayleigh: connect to icq?
[22:45] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: MSN
[22:45] <Exilant> ah
[22:49] <kayleigh> okay ran sudo kopete in konsole which then spat out lots of text and opened kopete
[22:50] <James147> kayleigh: you shoudnt run kopete as root
[22:50] <James147> kayleigh: and you should NEVER run a gui appl with sudo
[22:50] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: sudo? 0.o
[22:50] <kshadeslayer_> MSN doesnt need admin access :P
[22:51] <kayleigh> okay how should i open kopete in konsole like you asked?
[22:51] <kshadeslayer_> yes ....
[22:52] <James147> kayleigh: just run "kopete" no need for sudo
[22:52] <kayleigh> okay
[22:53] <kayleigh> done, ran okay with no text output in shell
[22:56] <kshadeslayer_> bah
[22:56] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: press alt+F2 > type : kdebugdialog
[22:56] <James147> kayleigh: did it manage to connect?
[22:56] <Exilant> kayleigh: run kdebugdialog, enable debug output for kopete (look neaar the end of the (unsorted :(  ) list, try running kopete again
[22:57] <kshadeslayer_> and then what Exilant said :)
[22:57] <Exilant> ah, kdebugdialog has a search function :)
[22:57] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: yep :)
[22:59] <kayleigh> ran kdebugdialog, selected kopete at the end pressed okay kdebugdialog closed ran kopete from terminal.
[22:59] <kayleigh> do i need to keep kdebugdialog open for this or is there a log some where?
[23:07] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: nope ... just run kopete
[23:08] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: then ... try adding a WLM account  and check what happens in konsole
[23:08] <James147> (making sure you close the other instance first)
[23:09] <kshadeslayer_> James147: can you take over? im going to sleep :)
[23:09] <kshadeslayer_> 4.40 AM ... :P
[23:10] <James147> kshadeslayer_: :p cant try
[23:11] <kshadeslayer_> could be a kopete bug ... cant try ... dont have a WLM account :D
[23:11] <kshadeslayer_> lemme give bugzilla another try
[23:13] <kayleigh> did what u asked , nothing in konsole but did get notification: Cannot conect with the instant messaging server or peers.
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> ^_^
[23:15] <kayleigh> i have tried other software, pidgin,amsn and kmess so if itd a kopete bug would it effect these as well?
[23:15] <James147> kayleigh: make sure you close the app from the system tray
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: looks like the MSN servers are refusing connections
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> quite possibly they changed protocol's etc
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> and since other clients are not working as well
[23:16] <kayleigh> i orig thought that but when i try on an xp terminal i connect, this is what stumped me
[23:16] <James147> kayleigh: also make sure you typed the username (with the @hotmail.com) and apssword correctly
[23:17] <kayleigh> mde sure pass and user are correct
[23:17] <kayleigh> thanks for your help shade have  good sleep!!!
[23:19] <kayleigh> you as well james will try later nd hope for the best!!!
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: check forum.kde.org  for issues :)
[23:19] <kayleigh> will do
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> and google and ubuntu forums :D
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> oh
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/394658-kopete-msn-issue.html
[23:20] <sfears> Kshadeslayer_.. I was able to boot from the grub prompt.  Took a little skill but I got it.
[23:20] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: nice :D
[23:20] <sfears> Using the tutorial you gave me
[23:20] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: now just install grub ^_^
[23:20] <James147> sfears: if you ahve booted then just reinstall grub with "sudo install-grub /dev/sda"
[23:21] <James147> sfears: no need to chroot if you managed to boot the system :)
[23:21] <kshadeslayer_> yep
[23:21] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: do you have special chars in your password?
[23:22] <James147> kshadeslayer_: ahh yes :) that bug...
[23:22] <kayleigh> one underscore but thought of that and tried with my mom's, all norml chaars, no connection
[23:23] <James147> guess not then
[23:23] <kshadeslayer_> really going to sleep now :P
[23:23] <kshadeslayer_> cya
[23:23] <kayleigh> thaanx
[23:25] <kayleigh> am now getting text output from console
[23:26] <kayleigh> kopete(4805) Kopete::SocketTimeoutWatcher::ackTimeoutCheck: Connection timeout for   QHostAddress( "65.54.165.137" )
[23:39] <piovisqui> i have update my x11-common package on kubuntu a few minutes ago and restarted my pc... now it is dead
[23:39] <piovisqui> no x server, even failsafe
[23:40] <piovisqui> can someone help me??
[23:40] <piovisqui> the update was released today
[23:44] <pulaski> Hi, I have an amd64 desktop machine which I recently upgraded through the MaverickUpgradesKubuntu page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu from runing Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx to Kubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meekrat.
[23:45] <pulaski> Kpackagekit no longer works. It crashes on start-up. Has anyone else experienced this?
[23:46] <James147> pulaski: its a known issue if your using kde 4.6
[23:49] <pulaski> James147: Thanks for responding. My KDE platform is 4.5.95 (4.6 RC2) so that means me right?
[23:50] <James147> pulaski: yeah
[23:56] <pulaski> James147: Thanks. I'm a relative inexperienced Kubuntu user, will going through a number of regular sudo apt-get update / uprgrade processes eventually resolve the issue for me?