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cozziemotoyofel,  the issues i had with not being able to boot after updates...is this only with the nvidia driver installed?00:02
cozziemotocozziemoto,  = coz_00:03
yofelI assume it's the nvidia driver and vesafb not playing well together, but I don't know enough about the topic to give any guarantees00:03
cozziemotoyofel,  ok  reinstalled  doing updates now...will reboot before installing nvidia driver to test00:04
cozziemotoi am wondering if the beta driver would be better ... I might test that as well00:05
cozziemotoyofel,  asking in #nvidia just for kicks...I see you are there as well :)00:08
penguin42yofel is everywhere00:24
yofelpretty much, need to clean up my channel list sometime..00:26
Oheligok so I was all like "zomg ubuntu alpha, MUST HAVE" and I haved it. but then it was all like "Do you want to log in as 'Zach' or 'proxy'?" and I'm like "who teh fux is proxy"00:29
OheligTranslation: a new user, proxy, showed up after installing.00:29
yofelhm, *that* should be disabled00:30
yofelall users with an UID <1000 shouldn't show up on the login screen at all00:30
Oheligis this happening to everyone?00:30
yofelnot here, but I use KDM00:30
Oheligif it matters, I'm using the AMD 64bit version00:31
Oheligproxy also does not have a folder in /home00:31
cozziemotook that didnt work again...and I didnt install the nvidia driver  ... oh boy  I will try again00:39
* penguin42 got an error during an update I just did where it didn't properly create an initrd because of a missing /etc/default/keyboard - which I now seem to have01:13
yofelyep, got that too, first I got a prompt for a keyboard layout switch combination, then an initrd error, the dpkg --configure -a after that ran fine though01:15
penguin42not entirely sure what to report that against01:15
BUGabundodamn it :| pidgin is still broken01:16
BUGabundoand borking my upgrades01:16
yofelI think they're waiting for debian to fix that01:16
BUGabundoI'm getting the one of the keyboard too01:16
BUGabundoyofel: which one ?01:16
yofelpidgin01:16
BUGabundoahh if I downgrade pidgin, I can upgrade Data ... wth01:17
Oheligugh01:34
OheligI hate unity because it's ALWAYS there. there should be a little button to click in the bottom/top left corner to hide and reveal it01:34
Oheligbutton is hidden when bar is hidden01:35
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penguin42Ohelig: You can configure it to hide01:36
Ohelig:| where01:39
penguin42if you get up the compiz configuration manager, select the unity plugin there are a couple of options, one of which is autohide01:40
Oheligk, well i also hate it because 1: I don't know where to find my programs other than that ubuntu-logo button01:40
Oheligand 2: there's no organization01:40
penguin42yeh01:41
h00kAlright, so, my Empathy keeps opening links in Firefox, even though chromium-browser is my default browser04:06
h00kany protips?04:06
h00koop, apparently it's anything opening a link.04:07
h00kaaand apparently it really *wasn't* the default.04:07
h00k...fix'd. Thanks all! You rock.04:08
Ohelig@h00k, you're welcome04:55
h00kOhelig: I had set it to be default, anyway.04:55
h00kbut apparently it wasn't!04:56
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AnAnthow do I activate unity in alpha1 ?11:02
rorkAnAnt: If I remember correctly you can choose between Unity and Desktop on the login screen11:10
sagaciAnAnt, have a decent graphics card11:10
sagaciand do what rork said11:10
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AnAntrork: aha11:15
AnAntrork: I am using the Live CD, I don't see the option on login screen11:17
rorkAnAnt: I have no experience with the live-cd, but someone else will know how to do it.11:18
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sagaciAnAnt, try typing unity into the terminal11:47
vita_Hello. I have issue with Thumbnails in Dolphin in Natty. I have installed mplayerthumbs (or something like that), enabled it in Dolphin, but thumbnails are not created. What should I do next? I tried to google for some info, but no success. It used to work for me. I even purged KDE configs (made backups, of course) and started from a new. :-(12:37
penguin42vita_: Report the bug with ubuntu-bug 1st, then ask on \kubuntu I'd suggest12:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112:38
vita_lol12:39
penguin42bad bot!12:39
vita_penguin42: OK. I'll do. I thought I did something wrong.12:39
penguin42not sure, I've not done anything with the thumbnails12:39
vita_I'm at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ and cannot find button for reportiung bug. Am I blind? Any hints?12:45
penguin42vita_: Do it from a command line on your machine; just run ubuntu-bug and the package name12:46
vita_ok, thanks12:47
h4fHi all. my microphone stopped working recently.13:17
h4fI have Acer Aspire 5720 laptop13:18
h4fwith built in microphone13:18
h4fAudio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)13:18
h4factually the microphone is working but the sound is so low that you hardly can hear.13:19
h4fany one know what does  "(rev 03)" mean ?13:27
vita_revision13:27
h4fyea but what is revision ?13:27
vita_3rd revision13:27
vita_it means, that they found flaws in some hw, so they fixed them13:28
h4fbecause I found on internet some people have (rev 04)13:28
h4fwhy do I still have 03?13:28
vita_think13:29
coz_hey guys13:30
coz_good day13:34
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knittlhi. i got a lot of unmet dependencies13:58
knittlknown issues? i couldn't find a bug13:58
knittlbootchart, ibus-pinyin, initramfs-tools, libwnck-dev, mercurial, openoffice.org-gnome13:59
knittl2 depend on klibc-utils14:00
penguin42knittl: Seemed mostly OK last night, it hit a problem with some unconfigured packages14:12
knittlpenguin42: i have it since yesterday morning /me thinks14:13
penguin42sigh, KDE is actually ending up using the us,af selection of keyboard that appared in /etc/default/keyboard as of yesterday14:20
knittli also have keyboard problems. keyrepeat of left mod414:22
knittldidn't happen before :(14:22
knittlwtf. is that file new?14:22
knittli think it might be related to my problem14:22
penguin42yeh I reckon it is - but I can't figure out what created it, dpkg -S doesn't find an owner14:36
knittlweird14:37
BluesKajHiyas14:40
slitbitshellos14:43
* BluesKaj is fed up with google chrome/chromium and google earth ..the toolbars and bookmark toolbars etc don't integrate at all with desktop environment settings.14:49
zniavrei can understand for the tabs (notebook) of the webbrowser14:50
penguin42knittl: I've confirmed and subscribed to bug 69826315:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 698263 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "console keyboard mapping broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69826315:04
knittlpenguin42: oh, you are german :]15:04
penguin42knittl: No, UK - the original reporter was German I think15:04
knittleh yeah. mixed that up15:04
penguin42knittl: Keyboard conf things I'm joint US, Afghani15:05
knittli'm selecting 'affects me'15:05
knittli think the package that installed that file is 'keyboard-configuration'15:27
knittlsadly i cannot reconfigure it, because my dpkg database is broken …15:27
penguin42yeh someone on #ubuntu-dev suggested that package, but it seems to be that bug either way15:33
BUGabundogood afternoon15:39
hackeronhey, is ruby 1.9.2 included in natty?15:55
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BUGabundo!search ruby16:01
ubottuFound: ruby-#kubuntu-offtopic16:01
BUGabundofail bot16:01
IdleOne!info ruby16:02
ubotturuby (source: ruby-defaults): An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 120 kB16:02
BUGabundo  Candidate: 1.9.2.0-216:02
BUGabundohackeron: yes16:02
hackeronawesome, thanks :)16:02
hackeron!info ruby-full16:02
ubotturuby-full (source: ruby-defaults): Ruby full installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB16:02
yofelpenguin42: KDE will use whatever X has as default if you don't set any other keyboard layout by hand, and the new settings are set on X level16:21
penguin42yofel: Any idea where from?  I can't see any xorg.conf stuff in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d16:22
penguin42yofel: Whereever /etc/default/keyboard came from, it's matching what KDE is doing16:23
yofelthe new /etc/default/keyboard I assume, since those are XKB settings, and I first noticed this on my login screen, while my session was fine16:24
penguin42yofel: Yeh16:24
yofel*how* it reads those I don't know16:24
penguin42yofel: thing is it wouldn't surprise me if it came from evdev or something like that; there is also some mumbling about it reading /var/lib/xkb/server-* files not that I understand why16:26
hackeronBUGabundo: where did you see that? - when I run apt-get show ruby-full, it show dependencies for 1.816:30
hackeronBUGabundo: same for apt-cache show ruby16:30
hackeronBUGabundo: and only thing I can see is 1.9.1 when I search for 1.916:31
yofelyou're probably right, since evdev does show that it reads the settings from some config file [   321.270] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "de"16:31
yofel(see Xorg.0.log)16:31
BUGabundohackeron: apt-cache policy16:31
BUGabundo$ apt-cache policy ruby1.9.116:32
penguin42yofel: Things are too damn complicated; so many indirections16:32
hackeronBUGabundo: that's a pre-repease of 1.9.2, it isn't 1.9.2 and very buggy :(16:32
BUGabundoyou asked for it16:32
yofel!info ruby1.9.1 | hackeron16:33
ubottuhackeron: ruby1.9.1 (source: ruby1.9.1): Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.9.2. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.2.0-2 (natty), package size 34 kB, installed size 176 kB16:33
yofelmessed up version, but should be 1.9.216:33
hackeronyofel: it isn't :(16:33
hackeronyofel: it shows 1.9.2p0 when the 1.9.2 release is p13616:34
yofeloh, don't know it that detailed I fear16:34
hackeron:(16:34
hackeronguess I'll usr rvm16:35
yofelyou could request an update in the Debian BTS, we just sync ruby from them16:35
hackeronuse*16:35
knittlany idea how to fix up my broken dpkg/apt?16:43
knittlhttp://paste2.org/p/118463216:44
BUGabundoI have pidgin broken16:44
BUGabundoand haven't been able to fix it :(16:44
knittli can't update …16:44
BUGabundoknittl: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade16:45
BUGabundowhat does that give you ?16:45
knittlthe same16:45
BUGabundobeside the usual, its not installed :)16:45
knittlBUGabundo: http://paste2.org/p/118463516:46
BUGabundoyay16:46
BUGabundopostfix is broken too16:46
knittli think it's mostly postfix16:46
BUGabundodo you use it?16:47
knittlits a dependence of nvidia-173 iirc16:47
knittli could play chuck norris and manually add a description text16:48
Guest78077postfix? think not..16:48
knittlBUGabundo: is it safe? to add a Description: dummy text line?16:48
knittlGuest78077: it was a bug somewhere sometime16:49
knittlwhat the heck, i'll just try :D16:49
BUGabundohow can that be a depency ?16:49
BUGabundoapt-get force it out :)16:50
knittlapt-get force?16:50
knittli tried apt-get install -f and aptitidu install16:50
knittldid not help16:50
knittlbut yay, it seems to fix it16:50
knittlnow i need to fix up those other duplicate entries …16:50
knittlWOAH16:51
knittlit seems like this file is broken16:51
knittlthere'? some garbage in vim16:51
knittl^@^@^@^@^@^@…16:51
knittlARGS16:51
knittl:'(16:52
knittlsome entries simply stop and the next starts somewhere in the middle16:52
knittllooks like a broken lock. how can i fix it? can i fix it at all?16:54
coz_yofel,   when I am wrong I am definitly wrong... I  uncommented the   GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480   and it works...17:05
yofelok, so the VBE mode auto detection breaks your card, grrrr.... too many settings17:06
coz_yofel,  yes but only the one card17:06
coz_the 7400gt   but not the 6600gt17:06
yofelyes, they actually added a blacklist list for cards that have issues with vbe graphics mode, file a bug so your card get's blacklisted for auto detection at least17:07
coz_yofel, ok thanks... I certainly appreciate it... saves the pain of resinstallation each time :(17:08
yofelknittl: there should be a status-old that you can try to use to recover dpkg17:09
yofelthe lockfile is /var/lib/dpkg/lock17:10
yofel212484 0 -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2011-01-08 20:13 /var/lib/dpkg/lock17:10
knittlyofel: do you think status-old is good?17:29
knittlyofel: thanks!!!17:30
yofelit should be the status from before dpkg broke it, try to make a diff of both17:30
knittl 1 files changed, 164 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)17:31
knittlwheeeee :)17:32
h00kIs there anything else I can add to bug #692823?17:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 692823 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::BaseTexture::GetDeviceTexture()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69282317:43
h00kUnity dies on my EEE, apport says this ^17:44
alex_mayorgais there a bug for right clicking not showing a visible menu on a nvidia 320m when running the new desktop using nouveau?17:53
charlie-tcaunity desktop or classic desktop?17:54
alex_mayorgacharlie-tca: unity is the only showing the problem17:56
charlie-tcaDid they upgrade the nouveau driver to the 3d driver now/17:57
alex_mayorgathe regular desktop showed right click menus as of yesterday17:57
alex_mayorgabut honestly this is my 1st or 2nd try at unity so I can't really tell17:57
charlie-tcaDon't think unity works with nouveau yet17:58
alex_mayorgaall the menus when I click a panel are invisible too17:58
charlie-tcaRequires 3d which requires the hardware driver be installed17:58
alex_mayorgacharlie-tca: well I'm on unity using nouveau as we "speak"17:59
alex_mayorgabut these two annoyances I describe seriously kill the usability for now17:59
alex_mayorgashould I bug unity or nouveau on this one?18:00
alex_mayorgahow does one reports nouveau bugs?18:04
charlie-tcaand it is not working. It is not a bug because nouveau is not compatible with unity and is not supposed to be working with it.18:06
JadenKorn3D acceleration could be initialized with a different package by still using Nouveau.18:06
yofelalex_mayorga: ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau18:07
yofelah wait18:07
alex_mayorgaI was thinking it might be of value to tell them "it kind of works, except for XYZ"18:07
charlie-tcaIf it is a bug against unity on nouveau it will be invalid18:07
alex_mayorgabut maybe charlie-tca is right and I should just stay mum on it18:08
yofelalex_mayorga: you can try to install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, but there is no official 3D support for nouveau, thus you can't use unity with nvidia cards by default18:08
JadenKornBy default no, but with that package, it should work (works for me).18:09
bjsniderdepends on the card18:09
alex_mayorgaas I said, all works but right clicking18:09
JadenKornI don't have problems with the Nouveau one, but the nvidia-current one definitely has a problem (or a bug) with mine.18:10
alex_mayorgahow can one tell what's the exact video configuration at any given point?18:10
charlie-tcalook in syslog, ???18:11
charlie-tcaIt is also in xorg log18:16
BUGabundobuuuuuuu18:17
BUGabundoopening openoffice crashed my system :(18:17
BUGabundobad natty bad18:18
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: that seems wrong18:18
h00kYeah, context menus on natty/unity are showing up behind appilcations (right click).18:20
BUGabundoback18:20
BUGabundoits not system18:20
BUGabundoits UI18:20
BUGabundoprobably Compiz18:20
BUGabundodoesn't like OOo18:20
BUGabundoffuuuuuuuuuuuu18:20
BUGabundoso how do I open OOo now?18:21
BUGabundomaybe on a nexted X18:21
bjsnideractualy this is an impressive new feature of openoffice18:22
bjsniderit crashes your system unless you pay ransom money to oracle18:22
h00kI have the nvidia driver installed, I'm not sure if I'm using it, or of Unity is using nouveau. Anyway, I can't see any right-click context-menus because they show up behind applications. Any protips?18:22
charlie-tcahm, that seems to work will, bjsnider ;-)18:23
charlie-tcas/will/well18:23
yofelh00k: xorg log will tell if you're using it, can't help with unity though18:23
h00kyofel: why didn't I think of that!18:23
charlie-tcah00k: that is a unity bug, already reported, as I recall18:24
h00kcharlie-tca: Probably, yeah.18:24
h00kI think it's loading...yeah, NVIDIA GLX Module 260.19.2918:25
BUGabundobjsnider: ahh thanks... let me.... aptitude purger *oracle* ; aptitude install LibreOffice  :D18:26
LinuxRULEShello18:54
LinuxRULESI updated my ubuntu 10.10 now I have 11.04? :S18:54
BUGabundoahaha18:56
BUGabundowelcome :)18:56
BUGabundohow did you upgrade?18:56
yofelbug 690248 maybe18:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 690248 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Maverick) "In Maverick 'About Ubuntu' displays Natty info" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69024818:57
yofelLinuxRULES: ^19:01
LinuxRULEShaha yeah its a bug19:02
LinuxRULESthx man19:02
gnomefreakmy terminal is huge :(19:15
BUGabundoyo gnomefreak19:15
BUGabundolong time no see19:16
gnomefreakhi BUGabundo19:16
gnomefreaki took some time off that i needed19:16
BUGabundogood for you19:17
BUGabundohow is your health?19:17
gnomefreakBUGabundo: im ok for the most part19:17
gnomefreaki hate using apport-collect it asks too many questions19:18
gnomefreaktoday is starting to suck already, i have been online for only a little while, i cant find the dmesg file i need for the failed boots. ill be back need a smoke19:29
yofelapport-collect will ask as many questions as apport-bug, blame the package hook19:29
alex_mayorga1ups my X locked up again19:31
alex_mayorga1bug 69610419:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 696104 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "nvidia 320m locks up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69610419:31
alex_mayorga1yofel: what to gather? now I can ssh into it19:32
yofelwell, as bryce said, nouveau doesn't log any usefull information beside the crash, so describe as accurately as possible what you were doing the moment it froze19:33
MTecknologytrying to compile vbox modules is so super fun right now; it's taking a crap ton longer than it's supposed to... as in about 15min so far19:36
gnomefreaki only have 3 bugs, however they suck. cant boot with 2.6.37-10 *-11 *-12, cant load Unity, due to timing out, there is another bug cant recall off hand19:40
* gnomefreak goes to load gnome-shell for now19:41
gnomefreakgconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager gnome-shell --type string19:42
gnomefreakdamnit wrong window19:42
gnomefreakthats odd19:43
BUGabundoahahha gnomefreak19:43
BUGabundoI only have 4 bugs :)19:44
BUGabundoa very old one with kmail19:44
BUGabundoe-sata no automount (old one too)19:44
BUGabundocompiz not starting on boot19:44
BUGabundoand broken upgrade of pidgin19:44
penguin42BUGabundo: you on kde?19:45
gnomefreakwell the package kmail is a _bug_19:45
BUGabundodoes it mather?19:45
penguin42BUGabundo: For the automount19:45
BUGabundoI'm on gnome :) and I've filed it one or two cycles ago19:45
gnomefreakstay with gnome and your kmail bugs will go away, try using evo or thunderbird or even claws19:46
penguin42ah ok, on KDE you can in principal to set up device notifier to mount non-removable drives at startup19:46
penguin42BUGabundo: You could always slap it in fstab19:46
BUGabundoI could19:47
gnomefreakbe back going to reboot see if i cant find more bugs19:47
BUGabundobut that would not fix it for EVERYONE else19:47
BUGabundoI don't really like to work around "bugs"19:47
BUGabundounless they are *my* bugs19:47
penguin42BUGabundo: So, the problem (which I don't know of a fix for) is that with eSATA I don't think there is a way for the machine to know it's not an internal drive which don't get automounted19:47
BUGabundobut usb pen drives works19:48
BUGabundowhy won't a plug device like e-sata work too?19:48
BUGabundofire up UDEV and let it do its magic19:48
penguin42BUGabundo: Because I don't think the e-sata looks any different to the hardware from an internal sata drive19:48
penguin42BUGabundo: do udisks --enumerate-device-files, find your e-sata drive and then do udisks --show-info devicename      and see what the 'system internal' 'removable' 'presentation hide' and 'presentation nopolicy' are19:54
penguin42BUGabundo: I bet they're the same as an internal partition19:54
BUGabundodon't have any e-sata drive next to me19:54
BUGabundoI mean, I do, but its powerd off19:54
BUGabundogive me a few min to test19:55
gnomefreakbug #3 i have is thunderbird not moving mail marked as junk to junk folder. if it sees a junk message on its own it will move it to junk folder19:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 3 in Launchpad itself "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319:59
gnomefreakoh well that wasnt supposed to happen20:00
gnomefreakok i feel eally stupid but what is the command to file a bug. im drawing a blank20:03
gnomefreaks/eally/really20:03
yofelubuntu-bug20:04
gnomefreakyofel: thanks20:04
gnomefreakit seems gnome-shell is broken too20:15
* penguin42 goes20:16
gnomefreakseems browser + terminal causes gnome-shell to repeatedly redraw, i lose panel and windows and it keeps doing it until i close browser20:18
gnomefreakthis didnt happen friday20:18
uponit12I have recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a MacBookPro 5,3 and have been trying to get the left-side fan1 to operate. For somereason only right-side fan2 works. I have installed lm-sensors, and attempted to run several scripts found on the internet regarding the manual control of the fans, and it seems there are a large number of sensors which are not operational. How do I get all of the sensors on the macbook to function as they should, as I suspect that20:36
uponit12 is why the fan1 will not operate?20:36
alex_mayorga1anyway yo attach files to a bug report from a ssh console?20:50
yofelhm, ubuntu-bug did support ssh at some point, try with X forwarding (ssh -X)20:50
guntbertalex_mayorga: you can use a pastebin from almost everywhere :-)20:51
ratcheerHas anyone tried booting directly to root on a btrfs, yet? If so, how did it go? My install ran perfectly, but it will not boot.20:54
Volkodavratcheer: I do not beleive it is supported yet20:55
Volkodavstill needs /boot partition20:56
ratcheerAs of 9-Jan, it is supposed to be supported, per the grub2 update log.20:57
Volkodavhmm have a link handy ?20:57
ratcheergrub2 (1.99~20110106-1) experimental; urgency=low ... - Fix grub-probe when btrfs is on / without a separate /boot.20:59
uponit12I have recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a MacBookPro 5,3 and have been trying to get the left-side fan1 to operate. For somereason only right-side fan2 works. I have installed lm-sensors, and attempted to run several scripts found on the internet regarding the manual control of the fans, and it seems there are a large number of sensors which are not operational. How do I get all of the sensors on the macbook to function as they should, as I suspect that21:03
uponit12 is why fan1 will not work?21:03
ratcheerVolkodav: Here is a link http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.changes.unstable/22458921:04
Volkodavuponit12: did you install mac specific repos ?21:11
uponit12Volkodav: I don't think I have located that installation information yet, where can that information be found?21:13
Volkodavhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro21:13
Volkodavlooks like maverick is all dandy on your laptop - I have lucid on MBP5.2 running perfect as well21:15
VolkodavThere is a section about sensors too21:15
gnomefreakwell i figured out why unity wont load, new computer will fix that i hope21:15
charlie-tcaum, Ubuntu live cd gives a message in VBox 4 today...21:28
charlie-tcaYou do not have 3d capability, please restart and choose classic desktop21:29
charlie-tcaUnfortunately, restarting still doesn't let me choose the desktop on the live cd!21:29
cozziemotoyofel,  ok did a test...first install I used the 6600gt  did updates...rebooted...changed  grub  ..shutdown...swapped cards for the 7300gt   and all worked well...  just reinstalled with the 7300gt..did updates  ,,,,changed grub...rebooted...and although I am not getting that same issue it is now booting to black screen with blinking marker23:49
cozziemotoany suggestions?23:49
smallfoot-wayland is not in repo?23:54

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