[00:02] yofel, the issues i had with not being able to boot after updates...is this only with the nvidia driver installed? [00:03] cozziemoto, = coz_ [00:03] I assume it's the nvidia driver and vesafb not playing well together, but I don't know enough about the topic to give any guarantees [00:04] yofel, ok reinstalled doing updates now...will reboot before installing nvidia driver to test [00:05] i am wondering if the beta driver would be better ... I might test that as well [00:08] yofel, asking in #nvidia just for kicks...I see you are there as well :) [00:24] yofel is everywhere [00:26] pretty much, need to clean up my channel list sometime.. [00:29] ok so I was all like "zomg ubuntu alpha, MUST HAVE" and I haved it. but then it was all like "Do you want to log in as 'Zach' or 'proxy'?" and I'm like "who teh fux is proxy" [00:29] Translation: a new user, proxy, showed up after installing. [00:30] hm, *that* should be disabled [00:30] all users with an UID <1000 shouldn't show up on the login screen at all [00:30] is this happening to everyone? [00:30] not here, but I use KDM [00:31] if it matters, I'm using the AMD 64bit version [00:31] proxy also does not have a folder in /home [00:39] ok that didnt work again...and I didnt install the nvidia driver ... oh boy I will try again [01:13] * penguin42 got an error during an update I just did where it didn't properly create an initrd because of a missing /etc/default/keyboard - which I now seem to have [01:15] yep, got that too, first I got a prompt for a keyboard layout switch combination, then an initrd error, the dpkg --configure -a after that ran fine though [01:15] not entirely sure what to report that against [01:16] damn it :| pidgin is still broken [01:16] and borking my upgrades [01:16] I think they're waiting for debian to fix that [01:16] I'm getting the one of the keyboard too [01:16] yofel: which one ? [01:16] pidgin [01:17] ahh if I downgrade pidgin, I can upgrade Data ... wth [01:34] ugh [01:34] I hate unity because it's ALWAYS there. there should be a little button to click in the bottom/top left corner to hide and reveal it [01:35] button is hidden when bar is hidden === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [01:36] Ohelig: You can configure it to hide [01:39] :| where [01:40] if you get up the compiz configuration manager, select the unity plugin there are a couple of options, one of which is autohide [01:40] k, well i also hate it because 1: I don't know where to find my programs other than that ubuntu-logo button [01:40] and 2: there's no organization [01:41] yeh [04:06] Alright, so, my Empathy keeps opening links in Firefox, even though chromium-browser is my default browser [04:06] any protips? [04:07] oop, apparently it's anything opening a link. [04:07] aaand apparently it really *wasn't* the default. [04:08] ...fix'd. Thanks all! You rock. [04:55] @h00k, you're welcome [04:55] Ohelig: I had set it to be default, anyway. [04:56] but apparently it wasn't! === zehrique is now known as zehrique-zzzZZZz === head_v is now known as head_victim === wzssyqa1 is now known as wzssyqa [11:02] how do I activate unity in alpha1 ? [11:10] AnAnt: If I remember correctly you can choose between Unity and Desktop on the login screen [11:10] AnAnt, have a decent graphics card [11:10] and do what rork said === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:15] rork: aha [11:17] rork: I am using the Live CD, I don't see the option on login screen [11:18] AnAnt: I have no experience with the live-cd, but someone else will know how to do it. === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [11:47] AnAnt, try typing unity into the terminal [12:37] Hello. I have issue with Thumbnails in Dolphin in Natty. I have installed mplayerthumbs (or something like that), enabled it in Dolphin, but thumbnails are not created. What should I do next? I tried to google for some info, but no success. It used to work for me. I even purged KDE configs (made backups, of course) and started from a new. :-( [12:38] vita_: Report the bug with ubuntu-bug 1st, then ask on \kubuntu I'd suggest [12:38] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [12:39] lol [12:39] bad bot! [12:39] penguin42: OK. I'll do. I thought I did something wrong. [12:39] not sure, I've not done anything with the thumbnails [12:45] I'm at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ and cannot find button for reportiung bug. Am I blind? Any hints? [12:46] vita_: Do it from a command line on your machine; just run ubuntu-bug and the package name [12:47] ok, thanks [13:17] Hi all. my microphone stopped working recently. [13:18] I have Acer Aspire 5720 laptop [13:18] with built in microphone [13:18] Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [13:19] actually the microphone is working but the sound is so low that you hardly can hear. [13:27] any one know what does "(rev 03)" mean ? [13:27] revision [13:27] yea but what is revision ? [13:27] 3rd revision [13:28] it means, that they found flaws in some hw, so they fixed them [13:28] because I found on internet some people have (rev 04) [13:28] why do I still have 03? [13:29] think [13:30] hey guys [13:34] good day === wzssyqa1 is now known as wzssyqa [13:58] hi. i got a lot of unmet dependencies [13:58] known issues? i couldn't find a bug [13:59] bootchart, ibus-pinyin, initramfs-tools, libwnck-dev, mercurial, openoffice.org-gnome [14:00] 2 depend on klibc-utils [14:12] knittl: Seemed mostly OK last night, it hit a problem with some unconfigured packages [14:13] penguin42: i have it since yesterday morning /me thinks [14:20] sigh, KDE is actually ending up using the us,af selection of keyboard that appared in /etc/default/keyboard as of yesterday [14:22] i also have keyboard problems. keyrepeat of left mod4 [14:22] didn't happen before :( [14:22] wtf. is that file new? [14:22] i think it might be related to my problem [14:36] yeh I reckon it is - but I can't figure out what created it, dpkg -S doesn't find an owner [14:37] weird [14:40] Hiyas [14:43] hellos [14:49] * BluesKaj is fed up with google chrome/chromium and google earth ..the toolbars and bookmark toolbars etc don't integrate at all with desktop environment settings. [14:50] i can understand for the tabs (notebook) of the webbrowser [15:04] knittl: I've confirmed and subscribed to bug 698263 [15:04] Launchpad bug 698263 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "console keyboard mapping broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/698263 [15:04] penguin42: oh, you are german :] [15:04] knittl: No, UK - the original reporter was German I think [15:04] eh yeah. mixed that up [15:05] knittl: Keyboard conf things I'm joint US, Afghani [15:05] i'm selecting 'affects me' [15:27] i think the package that installed that file is 'keyboard-configuration' [15:27] sadly i cannot reconfigure it, because my dpkg database is broken … [15:33] yeh someone on #ubuntu-dev suggested that package, but it seems to be that bug either way [15:39] good afternoon [15:55] hey, is ruby 1.9.2 included in natty? === lenios_ is now known as lenios [16:01] !search ruby [16:01] Found: ruby-#kubuntu-offtopic [16:01] fail bot [16:02] !info ruby [16:02] ruby (source: ruby-defaults): An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 120 kB [16:02] Candidate: 1.9.2.0-2 [16:02] hackeron: yes [16:02] awesome, thanks :) [16:02] !info ruby-full [16:02] ruby-full (source: ruby-defaults): Ruby full installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB [16:21] penguin42: KDE will use whatever X has as default if you don't set any other keyboard layout by hand, and the new settings are set on X level [16:22] yofel: Any idea where from? I can't see any xorg.conf stuff in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d [16:23] yofel: Whereever /etc/default/keyboard came from, it's matching what KDE is doing [16:24] the new /etc/default/keyboard I assume, since those are XKB settings, and I first noticed this on my login screen, while my session was fine [16:24] yofel: Yeh [16:24] *how* it reads those I don't know [16:26] yofel: thing is it wouldn't surprise me if it came from evdev or something like that; there is also some mumbling about it reading /var/lib/xkb/server-* files not that I understand why [16:30] BUGabundo: where did you see that? - when I run apt-get show ruby-full, it show dependencies for 1.8 [16:30] BUGabundo: same for apt-cache show ruby [16:31] BUGabundo: and only thing I can see is 1.9.1 when I search for 1.9 [16:31] you're probably right, since evdev does show that it reads the settings from some config file [ 321.270] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "de" [16:31] (see Xorg.0.log) [16:31] hackeron: apt-cache policy [16:32] $ apt-cache policy ruby1.9.1 [16:32] yofel: Things are too damn complicated; so many indirections [16:32] BUGabundo: that's a pre-repease of 1.9.2, it isn't 1.9.2 and very buggy :( [16:32] you asked for it [16:33] !info ruby1.9.1 | hackeron [16:33] hackeron: ruby1.9.1 (source: ruby1.9.1): Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.9.2. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.2.0-2 (natty), package size 34 kB, installed size 176 kB [16:33] messed up version, but should be 1.9.2 [16:33] yofel: it isn't :( [16:34] yofel: it shows 1.9.2p0 when the 1.9.2 release is p136 [16:34] oh, don't know it that detailed I fear [16:34] :( [16:35] guess I'll usr rvm [16:35] you could request an update in the Debian BTS, we just sync ruby from them [16:35] use* [16:43] any idea how to fix up my broken dpkg/apt? [16:44] http://paste2.org/p/1184632 [16:44] I have pidgin broken [16:44] and haven't been able to fix it :( [16:44] i can't update … [16:45] knittl: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [16:45] what does that give you ? [16:45] the same [16:45] beside the usual, its not installed :) [16:46] BUGabundo: http://paste2.org/p/1184635 [16:46] yay [16:46] postfix is broken too [16:46] i think it's mostly postfix [16:47] do you use it? [16:47] its a dependence of nvidia-173 iirc [16:48] i could play chuck norris and manually add a description text [16:48] postfix? think not.. [16:48] BUGabundo: is it safe? to add a Description: dummy text line? [16:49] Guest78077: it was a bug somewhere sometime [16:49] what the heck, i'll just try :D [16:49] how can that be a depency ? [16:50] apt-get force it out :) [16:50] apt-get force? [16:50] i tried apt-get install -f and aptitidu install [16:50] did not help [16:50] but yay, it seems to fix it [16:50] now i need to fix up those other duplicate entries … [16:51] WOAH [16:51] it seems like this file is broken [16:51] there'? some garbage in vim [16:51] ^@^@^@^@^@^@… [16:51] ARGS [16:52] :'( [16:52] some entries simply stop and the next starts somewhere in the middle [16:54] looks like a broken lock. how can i fix it? can i fix it at all? [17:05] yofel, when I am wrong I am definitly wrong... I uncommented the GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 and it works... [17:06] ok, so the VBE mode auto detection breaks your card, grrrr.... too many settings [17:06] yofel, yes but only the one card [17:06] the 7400gt but not the 6600gt [17:07] yes, they actually added a blacklist list for cards that have issues with vbe graphics mode, file a bug so your card get's blacklisted for auto detection at least [17:08] yofel, ok thanks... I certainly appreciate it... saves the pain of resinstallation each time :( [17:09] knittl: there should be a status-old that you can try to use to recover dpkg [17:10] the lockfile is /var/lib/dpkg/lock [17:10] 212484 0 -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2011-01-08 20:13 /var/lib/dpkg/lock [17:29] yofel: do you think status-old is good? [17:30] yofel: thanks!!! [17:30] it should be the status from before dpkg broke it, try to make a diff of both [17:31] 1 files changed, 164 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-) [17:32] wheeeee :) [17:43] Is there anything else I can add to bug #692823? [17:43] Launchpad bug 692823 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::BaseTexture::GetDeviceTexture()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692823 [17:44] Unity dies on my EEE, apport says this ^ [17:53] is there a bug for right clicking not showing a visible menu on a nvidia 320m when running the new desktop using nouveau? [17:54] unity desktop or classic desktop? [17:56] charlie-tca: unity is the only showing the problem [17:57] Did they upgrade the nouveau driver to the 3d driver now/ [17:57] the regular desktop showed right click menus as of yesterday [17:57] but honestly this is my 1st or 2nd try at unity so I can't really tell [17:58] Don't think unity works with nouveau yet [17:58] all the menus when I click a panel are invisible too [17:58] Requires 3d which requires the hardware driver be installed [17:59] charlie-tca: well I'm on unity using nouveau as we "speak" [17:59] but these two annoyances I describe seriously kill the usability for now [18:00] should I bug unity or nouveau on this one? [18:04] how does one reports nouveau bugs? [18:06] and it is not working. It is not a bug because nouveau is not compatible with unity and is not supposed to be working with it. [18:06] 3D acceleration could be initialized with a different package by still using Nouveau. [18:07] alex_mayorga: ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [18:07] ah wait [18:07] I was thinking it might be of value to tell them "it kind of works, except for XYZ" [18:07] If it is a bug against unity on nouveau it will be invalid [18:08] but maybe charlie-tca is right and I should just stay mum on it [18:08] alex_mayorga: you can try to install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, but there is no official 3D support for nouveau, thus you can't use unity with nvidia cards by default [18:09] By default no, but with that package, it should work (works for me). [18:09] depends on the card [18:09] as I said, all works but right clicking [18:10] I don't have problems with the Nouveau one, but the nvidia-current one definitely has a problem (or a bug) with mine. [18:10] how can one tell what's the exact video configuration at any given point? [18:11] look in syslog, ??? [18:16] It is also in xorg log [18:17] buuuuuuu [18:17] opening openoffice crashed my system :( [18:18] bad natty bad [18:18] BUGabundo: that seems wrong [18:20] Yeah, context menus on natty/unity are showing up behind appilcations (right click). [18:20] back [18:20] its not system [18:20] its UI [18:20] probably Compiz [18:20] doesn't like OOo [18:20] ffuuuuuuuuuuuu [18:21] so how do I open OOo now? [18:21] maybe on a nexted X [18:22] actualy this is an impressive new feature of openoffice [18:22] it crashes your system unless you pay ransom money to oracle [18:22] I have the nvidia driver installed, I'm not sure if I'm using it, or of Unity is using nouveau. Anyway, I can't see any right-click context-menus because they show up behind applications. Any protips? [18:23] hm, that seems to work will, bjsnider ;-) [18:23] s/will/well [18:23] h00k: xorg log will tell if you're using it, can't help with unity though [18:23] yofel: why didn't I think of that! [18:24] h00k: that is a unity bug, already reported, as I recall [18:24] charlie-tca: Probably, yeah. [18:25] I think it's loading...yeah, NVIDIA GLX Module 260.19.29 [18:26] bjsnider: ahh thanks... let me.... aptitude purger *oracle* ; aptitude install LibreOffice :D [18:54] hello [18:54] I updated my ubuntu 10.10 now I have 11.04? :S [18:56] ahaha [18:56] welcome :) [18:56] how did you upgrade? [18:57] bug 690248 maybe [18:57] Launchpad bug 690248 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Maverick) "In Maverick 'About Ubuntu' displays Natty info" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690248 [19:01] LinuxRULES: ^ [19:02] haha yeah its a bug [19:02] thx man [19:15] my terminal is huge :( [19:15] yo gnomefreak [19:16] long time no see [19:16] hi BUGabundo [19:16] i took some time off that i needed [19:17] good for you [19:17] how is your health? [19:17] BUGabundo: im ok for the most part [19:18] i hate using apport-collect it asks too many questions [19:29] today is starting to suck already, i have been online for only a little while, i cant find the dmesg file i need for the failed boots. ill be back need a smoke [19:29] apport-collect will ask as many questions as apport-bug, blame the package hook [19:31] ups my X locked up again [19:31] bug 696104 [19:31] Launchpad bug 696104 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "nvidia 320m locks up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696104 [19:32] yofel: what to gather? now I can ssh into it [19:33] well, as bryce said, nouveau doesn't log any usefull information beside the crash, so describe as accurately as possible what you were doing the moment it froze [19:36] trying to compile vbox modules is so super fun right now; it's taking a crap ton longer than it's supposed to... as in about 15min so far [19:40] i only have 3 bugs, however they suck. cant boot with 2.6.37-10 *-11 *-12, cant load Unity, due to timing out, there is another bug cant recall off hand [19:41] * gnomefreak goes to load gnome-shell for now [19:42] gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager gnome-shell --type string [19:42] damnit wrong window [19:43] thats odd [19:43] ahahha gnomefreak [19:44] I only have 4 bugs :) [19:44] a very old one with kmail [19:44] e-sata no automount (old one too) [19:44] compiz not starting on boot [19:44] and broken upgrade of pidgin [19:45] BUGabundo: you on kde? [19:45] well the package kmail is a _bug_ [19:45] does it mather? [19:45] BUGabundo: For the automount [19:45] I'm on gnome :) and I've filed it one or two cycles ago [19:46] stay with gnome and your kmail bugs will go away, try using evo or thunderbird or even claws [19:46] ah ok, on KDE you can in principal to set up device notifier to mount non-removable drives at startup [19:46] BUGabundo: You could always slap it in fstab [19:47] I could [19:47] be back going to reboot see if i cant find more bugs [19:47] but that would not fix it for EVERYONE else [19:47] I don't really like to work around "bugs" [19:47] unless they are *my* bugs [19:47] BUGabundo: So, the problem (which I don't know of a fix for) is that with eSATA I don't think there is a way for the machine to know it's not an internal drive which don't get automounted [19:48] but usb pen drives works [19:48] why won't a plug device like e-sata work too? [19:48] fire up UDEV and let it do its magic [19:48] BUGabundo: Because I don't think the e-sata looks any different to the hardware from an internal sata drive [19:54] BUGabundo: do udisks --enumerate-device-files, find your e-sata drive and then do udisks --show-info devicename and see what the 'system internal' 'removable' 'presentation hide' and 'presentation nopolicy' are [19:54] BUGabundo: I bet they're the same as an internal partition [19:54] don't have any e-sata drive next to me [19:54] I mean, I do, but its powerd off [19:55] give me a few min to test [19:59] bug #3 i have is thunderbird not moving mail marked as junk to junk folder. if it sees a junk message on its own it will move it to junk folder [19:59] Launchpad bug 3 in Launchpad itself "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3 [20:00] oh well that wasnt supposed to happen [20:03] ok i feel eally stupid but what is the command to file a bug. im drawing a blank [20:03] s/eally/really [20:04] ubuntu-bug [20:04] yofel: thanks [20:15] it seems gnome-shell is broken too [20:16] * penguin42 goes [20:18] seems browser + terminal causes gnome-shell to repeatedly redraw, i lose panel and windows and it keeps doing it until i close browser [20:18] this didnt happen friday [20:36] I have recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a MacBookPro 5,3 and have been trying to get the left-side fan1 to operate. For somereason only right-side fan2 works. I have installed lm-sensors, and attempted to run several scripts found on the internet regarding the manual control of the fans, and it seems there are a large number of sensors which are not operational. How do I get all of the sensors on the macbook to function as they should, as I suspect that [20:36] is why the fan1 will not operate? [20:50] anyway yo attach files to a bug report from a ssh console? [20:50] hm, ubuntu-bug did support ssh at some point, try with X forwarding (ssh -X) [20:51] alex_mayorga: you can use a pastebin from almost everywhere :-) [20:54] Has anyone tried booting directly to root on a btrfs, yet? If so, how did it go? My install ran perfectly, but it will not boot. [20:55] ratcheer: I do not beleive it is supported yet [20:56] still needs /boot partition [20:57] As of 9-Jan, it is supposed to be supported, per the grub2 update log. [20:57] hmm have a link handy ? [20:59] grub2 (1.99~20110106-1) experimental; urgency=low ... - Fix grub-probe when btrfs is on / without a separate /boot. [21:03] I have recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a MacBookPro 5,3 and have been trying to get the left-side fan1 to operate. For somereason only right-side fan2 works. I have installed lm-sensors, and attempted to run several scripts found on the internet regarding the manual control of the fans, and it seems there are a large number of sensors which are not operational. How do I get all of the sensors on the macbook to function as they should, as I suspect that [21:03] is why fan1 will not work? [21:04] Volkodav: Here is a link http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.changes.unstable/224589 [21:11] uponit12: did you install mac specific repos ? [21:13] Volkodav: I don't think I have located that installation information yet, where can that information be found? [21:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro [21:15] looks like maverick is all dandy on your laptop - I have lucid on MBP5.2 running perfect as well [21:15] There is a section about sensors too [21:15] well i figured out why unity wont load, new computer will fix that i hope [21:28] um, Ubuntu live cd gives a message in VBox 4 today... [21:29] You do not have 3d capability, please restart and choose classic desktop [21:29] Unfortunately, restarting still doesn't let me choose the desktop on the live cd! [23:49] yofel, ok did a test...first install I used the 6600gt did updates...rebooted...changed grub ..shutdown...swapped cards for the 7300gt and all worked well... just reinstalled with the 7300gt..did updates ,,,,changed grub...rebooted...and although I am not getting that same issue it is now booting to black screen with blinking marker [23:49] any suggestions? [23:54] wayland is not in repo?