[17:49] AlanBell: charlie-tca you two have both tried Natty, right? [17:50] yes [17:50] I have [17:50] I try a fresh installation about three times a week [17:50] charlie-tca: how bad is it? I'm trying to decide if I should try upgrading my mini to just use it as a test machine [17:51] Not too bad, just can't find any keyboard shortcuts most days [17:51] It requires the mouse, still [17:51] do they exist yet? [17:51] not yet [17:51] TheMuso: do we have any ETA on the keyboard shortcuts at this point? [17:52] I'm in the middle of the doc team meeting where they're trying to decide how to manage docs since they'll need things for gnome2 and Unity [17:52] That should be fun ;-) [17:52] to make it more fun a lot of the docs team is not happy about doing unity docs because of the copyright issue (don't blame 'em on that) [17:53] I think they are still hoping for shortcut keys for alpha2 [17:53] they were supposed to be in alpha1 which is why I'm hoping Luke has more info [17:55] They got bumped on the blueprint for unity [17:55] I know [17:56] but they got bumped really last minute [17:56] and I'd rather know now if they won't make alpha2! [18:24] I have tried natty [18:25] the installer was broken so I installed Maverick and upgraded