[01:32] <dnk> anyone able to help me out with what to do about wireless driver to my hp pavilion dv1000 just started using ubuntu on it and its hell due to me being a windows monkey :P
[01:35] <dnk> baah every one afk or just don't have a clue?
[01:37] <UndiFineD> I dont know dnk
[01:37] <dnk> ty for answearing m8 was afraid no one was here :P
[01:37] <UndiFineD> what have you tried ?
[01:38] <JackyAlcine> dnk: Is it being picked up by Ubuntu?
[01:38] <JackyAlcine> you might need the package ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers.
[01:39] <dnk> read about ndiswrapper but havent tried it yet
[01:39] <dnk> and no its say wireless is disconnected
[01:40] <dnk> pretty anoying when used to just thowing a windows disc on it and it finds driver it self
[01:41] <UndiFineD> I think this driver should already be in the kernel
[01:41] <UndiFineD> Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 BG
[01:42] <JackyAlcine> It is. Hm. Right-click the icon (network-manager-applet) and see if 'Networking Enabled' is checked.
[01:42] <JackyAlcine> and 'Wireless Enabled'..
[01:43] <dnk> 2 sec turning laptop on
[01:43] <dnk> as i recall i coulden enable it tho
[01:43] <dnk> no where i could push enable
[01:44] <dnk> but 2 sec tjekking
[01:45] <dnk> enable network is enabled but wireless isent
[01:48] <dnk> enable wireless is just black marked cannot push it
[01:48] <dnk> GARGH anoying :P
[01:53] <UndiFineD> dnk: can you open up a terminal ?
[01:54] <JackyAlcine> Hmm, you know, NetworkManager's designed to "just work". lol
[02:29] <dnk> hey again damn internet -.-
[02:30] <dnk> gonna try asking again
[02:30] <dnk> *hoping*
[02:31] <dnk> anyone able to tell me what to do to activate my wireless im using a hp pavilion dv1000 and i cannot seem to just push enable wireless
[03:16] <earthling__> Is restarting the computer the same as logging out and logging in? as far as software is concerned
[03:29] <holstein> earthling__: i suppose there are some services that would not restart
[03:29] <holstein> when you log out
[03:30] <holstein> all the things relating to your user would though
[03:31] <earthling__> If I do a computer reboot, would that make the computer run faster? rather than just logging out and logging in?
[03:31] <earthling__> if you know what I mean
[03:31] <holstein> hmmm
[03:31] <holstein> depends
[03:31] <earthling__> do you reboot sometimes when things get slow?
[03:31] <holstein> that doesnt usually matter as much with linux
[03:32] <holstein> not like it does with windows
[03:32] <holstein> BUT there could be things you would get up and running
[03:32] <holstein> that would be stopped when you logout/reboot
[03:32] <earthling__> it gets bogged down quickly with too many things open
[03:32] <earthling__> for me
[03:32] <holstein> and it just depends on what those things are
[03:33] <holstein> earthling__: what things?
[03:33] <holstein> browser mostly?
[03:33] <earthling__> thunar seems alot lighter than ...
[03:33] <earthling__> nautilus
[03:33] <earthling__> I heard there was a script to make it default
[03:33] <holstein> prolly
[03:33] <holstein> you can get xfce
[03:33] <holstein> or xubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <earthling__> is that much faster?
[03:34] <holstein> that would give you xfce and thuna
[03:34] <holstein> r
[03:34] <holstein> earthling__: depends
[03:34] <holstein> should seem lighter
[03:34] <holstein> lxde is really lite too
[03:34] <earthling__> so I can install both?
[03:35] <earthling__> xfce and
[03:35] <earthling__> gnome?
[03:35] <holstein> you can run whatever desktop environment you want
[03:35] <holstein> you can choose at login
[03:35] <holstein> you'll see the screen with your username
[03:35] <holstein> where you put in your password
[03:35] <holstein> and down at the bottom
[03:35] <holstein> unless its been changed in 10.10*
[03:36] <earthling__> is xubuntu and ubuntu the same, except for desktop environment?
[03:36] <holstein> you'll see 'sessions'
[03:36] <holstein> earthling__: all the buntu's are ubuntu really
[03:36] <holstein> all the software comes from the same reposiories
[03:36] <holstein> repositories*
[03:37] <holstein> its just a matter of what comes installed
[03:37] <holstein> like thunar instead of nautilus
[03:37] <holstein> xfce instead of gnome
[03:37] <holstein> you can install a command-line only install
[03:37] <holstein> a server install
[03:37] <earthling__> so if I run xfce, gnome wouldn't be running in the background?
[03:37] <kristian-aalborg> earthling__: hi, what kind of computer are you looking to install on?
[03:37] <earthling__> it would be like an only xfce system?
[03:37] <holstein> and run sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[03:37] <earthling__> if I install both DE
[03:37] <holstein> and get ubuntu
[03:37] <holstein> what you are used to seeing
[03:38] <holstein> earthling__: nah, you get to choose
[03:38] <holstein> between xfce or gnome
[03:38] <holstein> at login
[03:39] <holstein> OH
[03:39] <holstein> i see what you're asking
[03:39] <holstein> yeah, gnome will not be running in the BG
[03:39] <stlsaint> evening folks
[03:39] <earthling__> hi kristian-aalborg I'm running ubuntu now on HP pavilion 2 gig rab
[03:39] <earthling__> ram
[03:39] <earthling__> 3800
[03:39] <holstein> it'll be just like if you had installed xubuntu
[03:39] <holstein> stlsaint: o/
[03:40] <JoeMaverickSett> but i believe there would be applications from both DEs?
[03:40] <holstein> right
[03:40] <JoeMaverickSett> good evening stlsaint :)
[03:40] <holstein> you would be able to launch nautilus for example
[03:40] <holstein> if you wanted
[03:40] <holstein> nautilus --nodesktop ??
[03:40] <holstein> something like that
[03:40] <earthling__> how big is xfce?
[03:40] <JoeMaverickSett> earthling__: so, you will see applications from both DEs.
[03:41] <kristian-aalborg> earthling__: gnome should be okay?
[03:41] <earthling__> ic
[03:41] <earthling__> I like gnome, it just gets slow eventually
[03:41] <kristian-aalborg> ah yes
[03:41] <holstein> hmmm
[03:41] <earthling__> browsers running,etc...
[03:41] <earthling__> open office
[03:41] <kristian-aalborg> lxde is fast
[03:41] <earthling__> nautilus
[03:41] <earthling__> is it secure?
[03:42] <holstein> ?
[03:42] <earthling__> as gnome
[03:42] <holstein> lxde?
[03:42] <earthling__> lxde
[03:42] <kristian-aalborg> I've not tried it much
[03:42] <holstein> sure
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> earthling__: lubuntu is just ubuntu with lxde
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> where xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce.
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> so, there are secure.. :)
[03:42] <kristian-aalborg> you can speed up gnome quite a bit by removing animations and such, though
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> *they
[03:42] <earthling__> so lxde,xfce,gnome are equally secure?
[03:43] <holstein> its all buntu
[03:43] <earthling__> or is that more to do with underlying system?
[03:43] <kristian-aalborg> I always disable compiz and the like
[03:43] <holstein> as secure as your system is set up
[03:43] <holstein> changing the DE wont effect the secure-ness
[03:43] <earthling__> JoeMaverickSett> earthling__: so, you will see applications from both DEs.
[03:43] <earthling__> so they are both running?
[03:44] <holstein> no
[03:44] <holstein> not til you want them too
[03:44] <holstein> rhythymbox is a good example
[03:44] <holstein> that would be in gnome
[03:44] <holstein> and you would still see that in xfce
[03:44] <earthling__> what are you guys running?
[03:44] <holstein> in the menu
[03:44] <holstein> IF you wanted to run it
[03:44] <holstein> earthling__: i use gnome mostly
[03:45] <earthling__> brb food
[03:45] <holstein> but lxde is nice and light
[03:45] <JoeMaverickSett> earthling__: yeah, what holstein is saying is true. :)
[03:45]  * holstein speaks the truth :)
[03:45]  * JoeMaverickSett corrects that _true_ to _false_ :P
[03:46] <holstein> :/
[03:46] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[03:53] <JackyAlcine> I'll be right back.
[04:09] <earthling__> ok
[04:11] <earthling__> how much space does xfce take up?
[04:13] <jallii> hi there need some help with modeswitch
[04:14] <jallii> have ubuntu 10.04 installed on laptop
[04:14] <jallii> huawei 169 usb-modem
[04:15] <jallii> cannot get modem to switch
[04:15] <earthling__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_CD-ROM_switching_utility
[04:15] <earthling__> this?
[04:15] <holstein> jallii: for dial-up ?
[04:15] <jallii> ??
[04:16] <holstein> earthling__: all the DE's themselves arent going to be a factor size-wise
[04:16] <jallii> i have usb-modeswitch installed
[04:16] <earthling__> ok
[04:16] <jallii> but cannot switch correctly
[04:17] <holstein> you can search in synaptic and and before it installs, they'll be a list of how many packages
[04:17] <holstein> and size
[04:17] <earthling__> holstein, I wonder if I see all programs together, I may want to uninstall xfce later, or gnome,etc...
[04:17] <holstein> right
[04:17] <jallii> have had it funktioning earlier, after hours of work
[04:17] <holstein> they are meta-packages
[04:17] <holstein> if you uninstall xubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <holstein> all the xubuntu stuff is supposed to be attached to it
[04:18] <holstein> and will be uninstalled
[04:18] <jallii> then played with messed up and had to reinstall
[04:18] <holstein> that doenst mean you cant install thunar or whatever independantly
[04:18] <earthling__> holstein, is that through synaptic or apt?
[04:18] <earthling__> uninstall xubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <holstein> earthling__: whatever you're comfortable with
[04:19] <holstein> i like synaptic because of the descriptions and the GUI
[04:19] <holstein> but i use apt usually
[04:19] <earthling__> or aptitude
[04:19] <holstein> sudo apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <holstein> or whatever
[04:19] <earthling__> I like ubuntu software center
[04:20] <holstein> i havnet used the software center enough to know if it reports the file sizes
[04:20] <earthling__> I've never used synaptic
[04:20] <earthling__> it doesn't
[04:21] <earthling__> holstein, you have multiple DEs installed?
[04:21] <holstein> earthling__: on one box i do
[04:22] <holstein> jallii: so, thats a 3g usb dongle?
[04:22] <holstein> from vigin mobile?
[04:22] <jallii> yep
[04:22] <jallii> nope from dna
[04:22] <holstein> 10.04?
[04:22] <jallii> yep
[04:22] <holstein> 10.10?
[04:22] <holstein> 10.04...
[04:22] <jallii> 10.04 + acer laptop
[04:23] <jallii> original maker of modeswith has a newer version on their site
[04:23] <jallii> but not sure if thats the rigth way to proceed
[04:24] <jallii> also made it work earllier
[04:24] <jallii> with hours of work
[04:24] <holstein> jallii: have you seen this http://novatillasku.com/2010/05/03/huawei-e1612-funciona-en-ubuntu-10-04/
[04:25] <jallii> nope
[04:25] <jallii> but the modem is similar
[04:25] <jallii> cannot speak spanish
[04:26] <holstein> i just hit the translate button
[04:26] <jallii> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
[04:26] <holstein> in chromium
[04:26] <jallii> its the developers site
[04:26] <jallii> have 2 dongles and therefore played with it alot
[04:26] <holstein> did you build a git version or something?
[04:26] <jallii> ?
[04:27] <jallii> git
[04:27] <holstein> are you using the one from the repos?
[04:27] <jallii> yep
[04:27] <jallii> its older
[04:27] <holstein> if i were you
[04:27] <holstein> i would probably load up 10.10 live
[04:27] <holstein> and see if support is better
[04:28] <jallii> i cannot get 10.10 to work, tried
[04:28] <jallii> unity cannot show the left panel at all
[04:29] <jallii> should i install the newer version from  germany
[04:31] <holstein> not sure i know what that would be
[04:32] <holstein> unity is only in 11.04
[04:32] <holstein> OH
[04:32] <holstein> you got the netbook remix
[04:32] <holstein> i see
[04:32] <holstein> i dont use that on my netbook
[04:32] <holstein> you can try the normal gnome 10.10
[04:33] <jallii> i do not want to change to maverick
[04:33] <jallii> i rather stick to lts
[04:34] <jallii> so I dont have to change system parameters all the time
[04:36] <holstein> wouldnt hurt to look
[04:36] <holstein> might be the path of least resistance
[04:36] <jallii> http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_script
[04:36] <holstein> going to be challenging to find someone that knows how to tech that out with you
[04:36] <jallii> a possibility
[04:37] <holstein> to be honest
[04:37] <nit-wit> careful with natty it is rather unstable right now
[04:37] <holstein> i rarely see any questions about any of those cellular dongles
[04:38] <holstein> jallii: that looks like its worth a try
[04:38] <holstein> nit-wit: yeah, i wasnt suggesting installing 11.04
[04:39] <holstein> i just got confused as to why 10.10 would be booting into unity by default
[04:39] <jallii> another would be to install a newer version of usb-modeswitch
[04:39] <nit-wit> holstein, I know you wern't.:) I had to reinstall it today.
[04:39] <jallii> but thet would probably mean
[04:39] <holstein> nit-wit: oh yeah?
[04:39] <holstein> i had an update and it went alright
[04:39] <holstein> getting around to testing some ubntustudio stuff
[04:40] <jallii> doing some serious config
[04:40] <holstein> jallii: build it
[04:40] <jallii> how
[04:40] <holstein> the newer version
[04:40] <jallii> ?
[04:40] <holstein> depends
[04:40] <holstein> there should be a readme
[04:40] <holstein> have you looked for a PPA?
[04:40] <nit-wit> holstein, I could of kept the one I had but it had lost the desktop the unity and the classic.  had gnome do installed and could bring everything up but was a irratating install.
[04:41] <jallii> the problem is basically simple...
[04:42] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch
[04:42] <jallii> usb dongles have a windows program that automatically starts to install windows driveers
[04:42] <holstein> i dont know if thats newer or not
[04:42] <holstein> right
[04:42] <nit-wit> holstein, I had added a lot of stuff to it though seeing how far I could go.
[04:42] <holstein> i had to do that with an audo device
[04:42] <holstein> audio*
[04:42] <holstein> never got it to work though
[04:42] <jallii> and ubuntu cannot do win drivers
[04:42] <holstein> wasnt motivated to
[04:42] <holstein> well, it *can
[04:43] <holstein> we used to with wifi cards
[04:43] <holstein> still do sometimes
[04:43] <holstein> and i use madfuload for another audio device
[04:43] <holstein> but, i suppose you cant with that devices
[04:43] <holstein> device*
[04:43] <jallii> can i use newer versions as it probably has to do with the multitude of different dongles
[04:43] <holstein> something like the oldd ndiswrapper
[04:43] <jallii> each os
[04:44] <holstein> jallii: is that version in the PPA i linked newer?
[04:44] <holstein> if not, you might be able to find a .deb file from maverick
[04:44] <holstein> or natty even
[04:45] <jallii> each dongle is recognized as different hardware and has a different command that must be given to it
[04:45] <jallii> so that it starts
[04:45] <jallii> to work as a modem and not as a CD
[04:45] <holstein> USB
[04:45] <holstein> *
[04:45] <holstein> so it doesnt show up as a drive
[04:45] <jallii> the ppa for narwhal an maverick are newer
[04:45] <jallii> yep
[04:46] <jallii> but cannot switch
[04:46] <holstein> switch what?
[04:46] <holstein> to maverick?
[04:46] <jallii> the modem has to be given a command
[04:46] <holstein> im just saying take the .deb from that PPA
[04:46] <holstein> the newer verion
[04:46] <jallii> so that it changes to modem from cd
[04:46] <holstein> RIGHT
[04:47] <holstein> i get the idea of the process i think
[04:47] <holstein> im never going to have one though
[04:47] <jallii> can i use the newer version
[04:47] <holstein> you'll have to try it
[04:47] <holstein> should be able o
[04:47] <jallii> how
[04:47] <holstein> to
[04:47] <holstein> you need the .deb
[04:47] <jallii> how
[04:47] <holstein> that would be easier than building it
[04:48] <jallii> usb-modeswitch_1.1.4-2.debian.tar.gz
[04:49] <jallii> how do i get it as a package
[04:49] <holstein> 1.1.4-1 would do it?
[04:49] <holstein> thats newer right?
[04:50] <jallii> but how do I get the package
[04:50] <holstein> you could try http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch/
[04:50] <holstein> i usually try and add a PPA first though
[04:50] <holstein> one from buntu
[04:51] <jallii> i would prefer installing through package manager
[04:51] <holstein> but as long as you know how to uninstall that verion from debian
[04:51] <holstein> it wont hurt to try
[04:51] <holstein> jallii: you'll just click on that .deb
[04:51] <holstein> and do it that way
[04:52] <holstein> you can do it in the terminal if you prefer
[04:52] <holstein> w0w
[04:52] <holstein> 1.1.6 is there :)
[04:53] <holstein> you got quite a few newer verions to try there
[04:53] <holstein> and in .deb too
[04:53] <holstein> handy
[04:53] <holstein> IF that solves the issue
[04:54] <jallii> its not a .deb package but about 20 different files
[04:54] <holstein> http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch/
[04:54] <holstein> ^^ the 2nd link i linked there
[04:55] <jallii> rigth
[04:55] <holstein> one of the i386.deb 's should do it
[04:55] <holstein> id probably start with http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch/usb-modeswitch_1.1.6-1_i386.deb
[04:56] <holstein> you'll be told if there are unresolable dependancies
[04:56] <holstein> unresolvable*
[04:57] <jallii> got 1.1.4.2-i386.deb and it installed
[04:57] <holstein> cool
[04:57] <holstein> did it do the trick?
[04:57] <jallii> will see soon
[05:01] <jallii> 6532.132155] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6532.300340] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6532.338449] scsi21 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6532.342263] usb-storage: device found at 4
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6532.342267] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.342181] usb-storage: device scan complete
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.345170] scsi 21:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HUAWEI   Mass Storage     2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.348434] scsi 21:0:0:1: Direct-Access     HUAWEI   SD Storage       2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.379088] sr1: scsi-1 drive
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.379273] sr 21:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.379380] sr 21:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.379551] sd 21:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[05:01] <jallii> [ 6537.417084] sd 21:0:0:1: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[05:01] <jallii> nope
[05:04] <holstein> jallii: gotta use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:04] <holstein> for a bunch of lines like that
[05:04] <holstein> jallii: did you logout and back in?
[05:04] <holstein> or restart?
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6532.132155] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6532.300340] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6532.338449] scsi21 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6532.342263] usb-storage: device found at 4
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6532.342267] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.342181] usb-storage: device scan complete
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.345170] scsi 21:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HUAWEI   Mass Storage     2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.348434] scsi 21:0:0:1: Direct-Access     HUAWEI   SD Storage       2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.379088] sr1: scsi-1 drive
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.379273] sr 21:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.379380] sr 21:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.379551] sd 21:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[05:05] <holstein> jallii: you really need to use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6537.417084] sd 21:0:0:1: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6548.806091] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 1
[05:05] <holstein> for that
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6548.811085] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6688.728208] usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 4
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6696.512053] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6696.675492] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:05] <holstein> you cant flood the channel with this
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6696.730421] scsi25 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6696.734400] usb-storage: device found at 5
[05:05] <jallii> [ 6696.734404] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.737832] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.738464] USB Serial support registered for generic
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.739115] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.739119] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.759597] USB Serial support registered for GSM modem (1-port)
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.761284] option 5-2:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.768134] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.768149] option 5-2:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[05:06] <holstein> AND
[05:06] <holstein> i get it
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.770085] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.770108] option 5-2:1.2: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.770409] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.770441] usbcore: registered new interface driver option
[05:06] <holstein> its not showing up properly
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6696.770444] option: v0.7.2:USB Driver for GSM modems
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.733318] usb-storage: device scan complete
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.736475] scsi 25:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HUAWEI   Mass Storage     2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.748047] scsi 25:0:0:1: Direct-Access     HUAWEI   SD Storage       2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.773255] sr1: scsi-1 drive
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.773594] sr 25:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[05:06] <holstein> IF you can stop what you're doing
[05:06] <holstein> stop
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.773800] sr 25:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.781362] sd 25:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6701.817268] sd 25:0:0:1: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6714.832254] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 1
[05:06] <jallii> [ 6714.841246] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[05:06] <jallii> now it seems to have started recognizing
[05:06] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:06] <holstein> ^^
[05:07] <holstein> you dig?
[05:07] <akshatj> !paste | jallii
[05:07] <ubot2> jallii: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[05:07] <jallii> sorry
[05:07] <holstein> jallii: so its working now?
[05:07] <jallii> didn know that
[05:09] <jallii> yep
[05:09] <holstein> COOL
[05:09] <jallii> it seems to work
[05:09] <holstein> so, you should pay attention when updates come in
[05:09] <jallii> ?
[05:09] <holstein> i dont know if that package will get backported to lucid or not
[05:09] <holstein> BUT if it does
[05:10] <holstein> you might just want to keep the package you got
[05:10] <holstein> since its working
[05:10] <jallii> backporting??
[05:10] <jallii> it seems to work now
[05:10] <holstein> backporting the newer version of modeset to lucid
[05:10] <holstein> that would mean that when the verion in the repo is newer than the one you have
[05:11] <holstein> it will be replaced
[05:11] <holstein> anyways,
[05:11] <holstein> you can just ignore that
[05:11] <holstein> and come back if it breaks :)
[05:11] <jallii> the program itself is nothing but a few text files that tell the rigth hex command to the device based on rigth recognition
[05:11] <holstein> RIGHT
[05:11] <holstein> i get it
[05:11] <holstein> im just suggesting that you *could* have that file overwritten
[05:11] <holstein> doing an update
[05:11] <jallii> the kernel does the actual work
[05:12] <ashishx> mohi dere...??
[05:12] <M0hi> hey ashishx
[05:12] <holstein> yup
[05:12] <holstein> i get it :)
[05:12] <jallii> thanks
[05:12] <ashishx> hey
[05:12] <holstein> jallii: anytime :)
[05:12] <jallii> got it now
[05:12] <holstein> glad you got it sorted
[05:12] <M0hi> ashishx, tell your problem here. tell all
[05:12] <ashishx> fine..wait..
[05:17] <ashishx> Hello guys...I was trying to install ubuntu over the previous kubuntu installation.But while installing the installer doesn't list available partitions on my hdd(even not the one where my previous kubuntu istallation resides)..My system is running two hdd 500Gb & 160 Gb..SeaGate barracuda 7200rpm SATA..The ubiquity isnt listing partitions in 160 Gb drive..Any sol..
[05:18] <ashishx> ??
[05:18] <holstein> ashishx: i would test the hardware
[05:18] <holstein> just to be sure
[05:19] <ashishx> you mean i should run a harware test using the cd..??
[05:20] <stlsaint> ashishx: are you on the system now with livecd?
[05:20] <ashishx> i m running windows rit now
[05:20] <stlsaint> ashishx: boot to the livecd, connect to internet than join back to this channel
[05:20] <ashishx> i can show you output of fdisk -l incase you want
[05:21] <stlsaint> yea, thats one of what i want to see
[05:21] <stlsaint> egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[05:21] <ashishx> i've got a png of that...how do i send you
[05:21] <stlsaint> oh crap
[05:21] <stlsaint> sorry, disregard that ocmmand
[05:21] <ashishx> k
[05:21] <stlsaint> wrong channel
[05:21] <stlsaint> ashishx: one sec
[05:22] <ashishx> i can mail you
[05:22] <stlsaint> ashishx: http://imageshack.us/
[05:22] <ashishx> ok
[05:22] <ashishx> wait
[05:26] <ashishx> here it goes..http://img252.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img252/73/snapk.png
[05:26] <ashishx> http://img252.imageshack.us/i/snapk.png/
[05:27] <stlsaint> ashishx: you have a bad iso download, what distro are you trying to install and where did you download from?
[05:27] <ashishx> i used original ubuntu cd...i ordered one
[05:28] <ashishx> the checksum is fine...i ran a cd test too
[05:28] <stlsaint> ashishx: what release?
[05:28] <ashishx> 10.10
[05:29] <ashishx> i separated the hdd's as well....but it lists partitions in 500Gb only..
[05:29] <stlsaint> ashishx: ubiquity doesnt show any partitions on either hard drives? or just the 500GB one?
[05:30] <ashishx> just the 160Gb one..
[05:30] <stlsaint> ashishx: did you hit the drop down arrow at the installer to select a different drive?
[05:30] <ashishx> yo...
[05:31] <ashishx> it asked me whether i want to use entire hdd for installation...lol
[05:31] <stlsaint> you have the option to use entire drive, guided install/side by side, or manual
[05:33] <ashishx> there is no point in using the entire disk....i just want to overrite previous kubuntu intallation
[05:33] <ashishx> kubuntu is using 10Gb of unallocated space from 160Gb drive
[05:33] <stlsaint> ashishx: than you need to manually setup the partitions to choose which ones you want to use to install
[05:34] <stlsaint> ashishx: you said that ubiquity only shows the 160GB drive partitions and thats where kubuntu is and that is what you want to overwrite so im not seeing the issue for ya?? o_O
[05:34] <ashishx> but in that scenario the ubiquity would make me unhappy by formatting my entire hdd...that i just can't afford
[05:35] <stlsaint> ashishx: manually select your partitions to use to install to
[05:36] <ashishx> let me make it clear once again..........500Gb is shown perfect along with all partitons that it is having.......160Gb is shown as a single disk with no individual partitions.....so we shud keep 500gb aside
[05:37] <stlsaint> ashishx: aye, i see, would you mind booting to the livecd and connecting to internet and coming back to this channel
[05:37] <ashishx> hmm ok..
[05:49] <MrAnthrope> How would I close crontab after opening it up in my terminal? CTRL+C is not working.
[05:49] <MrAnthrope> Oh nevermind I can't read.
[05:49] <pleia2> it should be opening in your default editor
[05:50] <MrAnthrope> I chose the one with the arrow on easiest.
[05:50] <MrAnthrope> Someone just mentioned it I don't even really know what it does.
[05:50] <MrAnthrope> /bin/nano
[05:50] <pleia2> ah, yeah, so you'd just exit it the standard way you exit nano
[05:51] <MrAnthrope> They said it could make my computer do commands and specified times.
[05:51]  * MrAnthrope has no idea what nano is.
[05:51] <pleia2> nano is a text editor
[05:51] <MrAnthrope> like gedit?
[05:51] <pleia2> yes, but it runs in your terminal, not in the gui
[05:51] <MrAnthrope> Well that's weird.
[06:02] <stlsaint> MrAnthrope: nano rocks
[06:02] <stlsaint> very simple and easy for quick edits to configs
[06:02] <MrAnthrope> I can use my mouse in gedit.
[06:03] <MrAnthrope> ^winar
[06:03] <stlsaint> mouses are for cats
[06:03] <MrAnthrope> hA
[06:03] <MrAnthrope> Very funny. :)
[06:06] <stlsaint> hrm, ash never came back...
[06:08] <JoeMaverickSett> vim FTW! :D
[06:08] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: lol, aye, nano is a cruch for my not to fully learn vim, nano is just so easy and quick no need to learn vim until i get heavier into programming
[06:09] <MrAnthrope> vim.tiny?
[06:09] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint: i fails at nano. :D
[06:09] <MrAnthrope> If I don't even know what nano is and I can use it, so can you.
[06:09] <stlsaint> lol
[06:10] <JoeMaverickSett> hhmm, some truth in it. :D
[06:10] <MrAnthrope>   2. /bin/nano        <---- easiest
[06:10] <MrAnthrope> ctrl+x closes it.
[06:10] <MrAnthrope> It says so. Right there on the screen.
[06:11] <MrAnthrope> o.o Not that I was trying to figure out how to close it for like 5 minutes at all.
[06:32] <stlsaint> alright, nite folks
[07:58] <JackyAlcine> Hey everyone
[08:01] <z1> Hi, I've killed my linux install after installing a Nvidia driver, any ideas where to start?
[08:31] <sushil> my eth0 doesn't have inet addr??
[08:31] <sushil> plz help
[08:37] <sushil> does anyone have the solution??
[08:43] <Daniel0108> sushil: maybe you have wlan ;) then look for wlan0
[08:44] <Daniel0108> oh.. too late :(
[10:29] <kristian-aalborg> hi all... anyone else tried to have their desktop look "blocky" after logging in? I use mint but this looks like something that could happen all over, could be an X problem
[10:29] <kristian-aalborg> graphics card is Radeon HD 3450
[10:51] <dreewill> kristian-aalborg: i have no idea but maybe the guys from the ubuntu-x channel can help you with that.
[11:02] <kristian-aalborg> hi dreewill - thanks, will look it up
[12:03]  * Daniel0108 eating
[14:57] <JackyAlcine> Morning, one and all :)
[15:13] <iceflatline> good am :)
[15:13] <Daniel0108> hi iceflatline :)
[15:13] <Daniel0108> can I help you?
[15:13] <iceflatline> no, but thank you.
[15:21] <Bipul`>  Which Version of Wine is good for me, for runing vb programming in my buntu10.10 (32 bit)
[16:13] <jermza> What is Nautilus Elementary>
[16:14] <jermza> I installed it, as per some blog post, and see nothing differernt.
[16:14] <jermza> I can see it under "Installed Software" in the Ubuntu Software Centre.
[16:15] <Daniel0108> jermza: Nautilus is the file manager ;)
[16:15] <jermza> Isn't Elementary an add-on?
[16:16] <Daniel0108> I can't find elementary in the software centre :o
[16:56]  * Daniel0108 pushed rev2 of ERRE :) http://launchpad.net/erre
[17:03] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[17:06] <Daniel0108> hi
[17:06] <ShootEmUp> whats up?
[17:07] <Daniel0108> please go to #ubuntu-beginners-team, this is the support channel ;)
[17:28] <black-raven> hey.
[17:29] <black-raven> sudo get-apt install lubuntu-desktop is the correct command line to get lubuntu right? then a bunch of text pops up and you press y for yes?
[17:36] <yofel> right
[17:41] <ShootEmUp> Hello Again!
[17:49] <pip__> if I install 64 bit ubuntu how does the software centre work? i.e. will it only show me 64 bit apps, or only allow the installation of 64 bit apps, or something?
[17:50] <pip__> woah, that's not right..........
[17:50] <Daniel0108> pip__: The software centre is like the package manager
[17:50] <ShootEmUp> will only list 64bit apps, but most are 64bit now
[17:50] <Daniel0108> it will choose the 64bit aps
[17:50] <Daniel0108> apps
[17:50] <pip__> aha, excellent thanks guys
[17:50] <Daniel0108> and if you want to install a 32bit app through the software center you will get an error :P
[17:51] <pip__> ooer! :-(
[17:51] <Daniel0108> but you can force an architecture so you can also install 32 bit apps :P
[17:51] <Daniel0108> but don't do this too often ;)
[17:51] <pip__> I don't like the sound of that
[17:52] <pip__> aha, I see :-)
[17:53] <pip__> thanks for the info folks, very helpful.........
[18:00] <black-raven> yah! lubuntu has begun its decade long DL!
[18:00] <black-raven> why does it use the chromium browser? isn't it unstable?
[18:01] <aveilleux> black-raven: No, chromium is stable.
[18:01] <Daniel0108> chromium is the open source version of chrome ;)
[18:01] <black-raven> oh ok. from the lubuntu install it seems like it relies heavley on it.
[18:01] <JackyAlcine> I feel bad for Chromium at times.
[18:01] <black-raven> ?
[18:02] <JackyAlcine> And black-raven: It's because Chromium *tends* to use less resources then Midori and Firefox. note the 'tends'.
[18:02] <JackyAlcine> And it doesn't have native support for PDFs or DOCs, that's something Chrome has.
[18:02] <JackyAlcine> =/
[18:03] <pip__> DL?
[18:03] <black-raven> http://imagebin.org/131820 thats correct? (sorry. just dont want to fry my rig or something as im still new)
[18:03] <black-raven> DL=Download
[18:03] <aveilleux> JackyAlcine: Only because Chrome us funded by Google and uses the Docs plugin
[18:04] <pip__> duh! of course :)
[18:04] <black-raven> i haven't seen anyone else use DL though. forget where i picked it up.
[18:04] <pip__> yeah, but its really obvious once you say it...
[18:05] <pip__> torrent or direct?
[18:05] <aveilleux> black-raven: I last saw the term DL in reference to DDL, or Direct DownLoad
[18:05] <pip__> aha
[18:05] <black-raven> um, idk. i never use torrent.
[18:05] <pip__> lubuntu torrent was pretty quick the other week
[18:05] <black-raven> how come it said only 266MB will be used? lubuntu is a lot bigger than that...
[18:06] <pip__> thats weird.....
[18:07] <pip__> 10.10 was 600 & something I think
[18:07] <black-raven> yah. i mean this IS the right command...right? http://imagebin.org/131820
[18:07]  * Daniel0108 is having a shower (AFK)
[18:08] <pip__> aha, you're adding the desktop. I run it as a full OS so I dunno really
[18:09] <aveilleux> black-raven: Used *in addition to*
[18:10] <black-raven> oh ok.
[18:10] <black-raven> yah all i want is the environment. it will speed things up.
[18:11] <pip__> It should do......so I hear
[18:12] <black-raven> awesome. freaked for a minute cause i thought you needed the full OS version to get the speed boost. it takes up a lot less RAM right?
[18:12] <pip__> yeah much less
[18:12] <aveilleux> black-raven: It's no less "full" than anything
[18:13] <black-raven> ok awesome.
[18:13] <pip__> it still does all the basic stuff
[18:14] <black-raven> im getting the environment though. so you're saying that if i used a Lubuntu Live disk to install it would be the same? the only difference is the environment?
[18:14] <pip__> no, that would be Lubuntu
[18:15] <black-raven> um, ok...
[18:15] <black-raven> GTG. cya later.
[18:15] <pip__> different file manager some of the underlying architecture is a little different too
[18:16] <pip__> ttfn dude
[18:27]  * JackyAlcine Programming; working on libopenmary-c++, and tending to the Launchpad
[19:19] <igi> hy
[19:19] <Daniel0108> hi
[19:21] <MrAnthrope> Anyone know of a cheap nvidia PCIe 16x graphics card?
[19:22] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: http://bit.ly/ezy8mj
[19:23] <MrAnthrope> These all work on Ubuntu?
[19:23] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: They're video cards. Older ones, at that. They'll work.
[19:24] <MrAnthrope> I just don't want to buy a video card and have it not work as I will have to wait another month before I can afford to try again.
[19:25] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Have you never returned a product before?
[19:25] <MrAnthrope> I assumed I couldn't return computer pieces.
[19:25] <MrAnthrope> used.
[19:26] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Of course you can.
[19:26] <MrAnthrope> sweet
[19:26] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Just keep all the packaging.
[20:18] <jermza> Not sure how to ask this, so follow me, if you can
[20:20] <jermza> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 a few weeks ago (and am really happy).  've been installing things from the Software Centre and generally playing around.  I've uninstalled things I don't like, etc. What I want to know is: will Ubuntu slow down from this? Wll the applications leave behind files like Windows does (in the registry)?
[20:20] <aveilleux> jermza: Linux doesn't use a registry system
[20:21] <aveilleux> jermza: However, some configuration files are left behind... they don't take up much room and it doesn't "slow down the system", so you'll be fine.'
[20:21] <JackyAlcine> Thank God Linux doesn't have a registry!
[20:22] <JackyAlcine> And jermza: use sudo apt-get purge <app-name>* to COMPLETELY remove an application.
[20:29] <igi> NickServ register igi
[20:29] <igi> igi
[20:29] <aveilleux> igi: use /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[20:29] <igi> igiderhacker
[20:29] <igi> asfd
[20:29] <igi> as
[20:29] <igi> d
[20:29] <igi> asf
[20:29] <igi> asf
[20:29] <igi> sry
[20:30] <aveilleux> igi: If it make it any easier, just use /query nickserv
[20:30] <aveilleux> igi: Then type "help register" (without quotes)
[20:31] <igi> thx
[20:32] <aveilleux> you're welcome
[21:03] <phillw> starcraftman: congratluations :)
[21:29] <black-raven> hey. got Lubuntu up and running.
[21:29] <ChrisDruif> Great :D
[21:29] <black-raven> how come all my DLd programs like Xchat didn't carry over?
[21:30] <ChrisDruif> Come joins us on either #lubuntu for questions or #lubuntu-offtopic for....well, offtopic stuff :P
[21:30] <black-raven> this is kind of general environment stuff. i din't think it carries over on any environment.
[21:31] <black-raven> don't*
[21:33] <ChrisDruif> Was on the Lubuntu up and running comment :P
[21:33] <ChrisDruif> But your downloaded programs?
[21:34] <black-raven> oh ok sorry for the confusion.
[21:34] <black-raven> yes they didn't transfer. i logged into Lubuntu and Xchat and all the other stuff I've DLd was gone.
[21:34] <ChrisDruif> So you are dual-booting?
[21:35] <aveilleux> black-raven: It shouldn't be!
[21:35] <black-raven> yah but only winXP and Ubuntu. i installed the Lubuntu environment so it would run faster.
[21:36] <black-raven> shouldn't be transfered?
[21:36] <aveilleux> black-raven: Shouldn't be gone
[21:36] <ChrisDruif> If you installed it OVER ubuntu, it won't...
[21:37] <black-raven> no i installed it with ubuntu. so i can log out, pick Ubuntu or Lubuntu, and log back in.
[21:37] <black-raven> but when i went into Lubuntu for the fisrt time, Xchat etc. was gone.
[21:38] <ChrisDruif> Hmmm....I think it should all be there :-/
[21:38] <aveilleux> black-raven: That means the menus are misconfigured.
[21:38] <aveilleux> black-raven: I don't know lubuntu so I don't know how to fix ir
[21:38] <aveilleux> it*
[21:39] <black-raven> hm. ok well ill work on it. might try the Lubuntu IRC. but i'm pretty sure i installed everything right.
[21:39] <black-raven> is it possible that they're just in a different place  in Lubuntu?
[21:40] <ChrisDruif> I don't believe so black-raven...
[21:41] <ChrisDruif> The use the same fhs I believe, as all Linux's are...
[21:41] <black-raven> ok. well, like i said ill work on it. thanks guys! GTG do homework now. cya later!
[22:04]  * Daniel0108 goes to bed, I am tired :o
[22:19] <tunchi_1939> hello, i am new to irc.- I've downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 two or three weeks after the release and installed a few months ago.- I wish to un-install because I am having some issues.- Then, I want to download again Ubuntu 10.04 (because of its LTS).- My question is: the download archive at this moment is the same of the file I've downloaded on May, 2010?- Thank you very much for your answering.
[22:20] <holstein> tunchi_1939: whats the question?
[22:20] <holstein> if you have 10.04 installed
[22:20] <holstein> and want updates
[22:20] <holstein> just update it
[22:20] <holstein> and you'll be current
[22:20] <holstein> with the 10.04 release
[22:21] <holstein> i think new iso's are made every now and then
[22:21] <holstein> for the LTS's
[22:21] <tunchi_1939> No, I don't want update.- I want a new installation.
[22:21] <holstein> 10.04.2 and so on
[22:21] <holstein> BUT that would be the same as installing the old iso
[22:21] <holstein> and updating
[22:21] <ChrisDruif> tunchi_1939: The current archive is the first dot-release...10.04.1...
[22:21] <holstein> tunchi_1939: right
[22:21] <holstein> im not clear on what the outcome you wish to have
[22:22] <holstein> you have 10.04 installed?
[22:22] <tunchi_1939> yes
[22:22] <tunchi_1939> but i have issues
[22:22] <holstein> and you just want to reinstall
[22:22] <aveilleux> http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/10.04/
[22:22] <tunchi_1939> yes
[22:22] <holstein> and you want a more current iso
[22:22] <holstein> if available
[22:22] <holstein> check that link aveilleux just dropped there
[22:22] <tunchi_1939> yes, if available, but version 10.04
[22:22] <holstein> but you can just use the one you had before
[22:22] <ChrisDruif> What are your problems tunchi_1939?
[22:22] <holstein> and upgrade
[22:24] <tunchi_1939> problems with switchuserapplet, for example, every time I restart it appears a message with error
[22:24] <tunchi_1939> other problem is with Rythmbox
[22:24] <holstein> tunchi_1939: might be a good idea to trouble shoot them a bit
[22:24] <holstein> the errors
[22:24] <tunchi_1939> at start, a lot of messages appear, before entering ubuntu, with  lot of errors
[22:25] <holstein> even if you reinstall
[22:25] <holstein> that information can be helpful
[22:25] <tunchi_1939> what information)
[22:25] <tunchi_1939> what information?
[22:26] <ChrisDruif> From the errors tunchi_1939:)
[22:26] <tunchi_1939> how can i copy this page?
[22:26] <tunchi_1939> so, you suggest I show the errors in this irc?
[22:26] <ChrisDruif> The errors you mean?
[22:27] <ChrisDruif> Paste them in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:27] <tunchi_1939> or you are suggestin me to try to troubleshooting my issues before un-installing?
[22:27] <holstein> tunchi_1939: the information you gather while trouble-shooting the errors you have
[22:28] <holstein> or at least trying to figure out what caused them
[22:29] <ChrisDruif> You can't uninstall an OS tunchi_1939, and yes before you overwrite your current version try to troubleshoot some problems. There might be problems which would return in the "new" install as well :)
[22:29] <tunchi_1939> I think you are right, I should try to troubleshoot and not uninstall, that way i suppose i will learn  a lot of ubuntu.- I am a 20 years Windows user
[22:30] <tunchi_1939> I am falling in love with ubuntu, but as my new lover it is making me some troubles.- Sorry for my English.
[22:30] <holstein> tunchi_1939: no worries
[22:30] <holstein> glad you're enjoying it :)
[22:31] <tunchi_1939> lol
[22:31] <ChrisDruif> Your English is not bad tunchi_1939, and ever girl is different :)
[22:31] <ChrisDruif> You just need to find the right buttons to push ;)
[22:32] <tunchi_1939> ok, Thank you very much for your kind attention.- I will try to troubleshoot my issues.- God bless you. Thank you and greetings from Lima, Peru, South America.- I am 71 yesars old and I am trying to learn something new in my life.
[22:33] <ChrisDruif> Btw tunchi_1939: LTS is only one year extra support for desktop version, so you could "try" 10.10...
[22:34] <ChrisDruif> Great new strides were made with the new version :)
[22:34] <tunchi_1939> but everybody says that an LTS version is muy stable than the others.
[22:34] <tunchi_1939> is much stable
[22:35] <holstein> i think it depends
[22:35] <holstein> for a server install, i might prefer LTS
[22:35] <holstein> and i use ubuntu studio in a production environment
[22:35] <holstein> that is 10.04
[22:35] <holstein> but a normal desktop machine, i would probably do wichever
[22:35] <tunchi_1939> do you think that for home user is better 10.10 ?
[22:36] <holstein> and not worry about the stability
[22:36] <holstein> tunchi_1939: you'll have to decide
[22:36] <tunchi_1939> do you use ubuntu studio with server version ?
[22:36] <holstein> you can always check a live CD
[22:36] <holstein> tunchi_1939: i use mostly LTS
[22:36] <holstein> whatever versions
[22:36] <holstein> but, i have a 10.10 install
[22:36] <holstein> and an 11.04
[22:36] <holstein> i wouldnt suggest 11.04
[22:37] <holstein> but 10.10 would be stable
[22:37] <tunchi_1939> ok, i undestand and appreciatte your comments.
[22:38] <tunchi_1939> I think for the moment, in order to learn, i will try to troubleshoot my 10.04 and then, in 30-60 days, i will try 10.10
[22:38] <holstein> i like it :)
[22:38] <holstein> theres nothing wrong with re-installing
[22:38] <holstein> thats part of the process too
[22:39] <holstein> breaking something, reinstalling, and trying to figure it all out
[22:42] <tunchi_1939> thanks again.- By the form you write ("talk") you appears to be a very decent person.- I appreciate that very much.- Many thanks.---- Please how do I finish my conversation here in irc ?
[22:42] <ChrisDruif> Muy? Are you Spanish? :D
[22:42] <tunchi_1939> and how do I quit ?
[22:42] <tunchi_1939> yes
[22:42] <tunchi_1939> peruvian
[22:43] <tunchi_1939> my mother language is Spanish
[22:43] <ChrisDruif> Just close the window I think tunchi_1939, to quit the IRC...
[22:43] <tunchi_1939> muy was a typo.- I tried to write much
[22:44] <ChrisDruif> Yeah, but I that you mistyped in your own language :)
[22:44] <ChrisDruif> that=thought...
[22:44] <tunchi_1939> yes
[22:45] <tunchi_1939> well, to holstein and ChrisDruit, thank you very much and bye.
[22:45] <holstein> tunchi_1939: :)
[22:46] <holstein> anytime
[22:46] <tunchi_1939> adios amigos, y muchas gracias  (good bye friends and thank you very much)
[22:58] <ChrisDruif> holstein: o/ ?
[22:59] <holstein> kinda
[22:59] <holstein> whats up?
[23:00] <ChrisDruif> Nothing much, you?
[23:00] <holstein> bout to clean my basement a bit more
[23:00] <ChrisDruif> Great...
[23:00] <holstein> im working on a custom live CD project
[23:00] <holstein> we'll see how that goes
[23:00] <holstein> i need to save some wifi info in there
[23:01] <ChrisDruif> Custom live CD? What's it going to be/doing?
[23:01] <holstein> i teach a few classes
[23:01] <holstein> at my moms church
[23:02] <holstein> and i just want a simple live environment with exactly what i want them to have
[23:02] <holstein> less distractions
[23:03] <holstein> hopefully less configuring
[23:03] <holstein> and it cant be changed
[23:03] <ChrisDruif> What kind of classes?
[23:03] <holstein> general really
[23:03] <holstein> whatever i want to do pretty much
[23:03] <holstein> i have 3 high-school age kids though
[23:04] <holstein> i need to step things up a bit for them
[23:04] <ChrisDruif> Alright...High school is from about 12y?
[23:04] <holstein> i think they are all 14 or 15
[23:04] <holstein> but i have some little ones too
[23:04] <holstein> 8 years old
[23:04] <holstein> we just play games
[23:20] <rickferd> anyone here
[23:20] <aveilleux> !ask | rickferd
[23:20] <ubot2> rickferd: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:21] <rickferd> No iam just checking to make sure my network is up and running
[23:21] <rickferd> I see it is
[23:21] <ChrisDruif> There are a few here rickferd :P
[23:23] <rickferd> so does this room discus anything or just sit around and wait for a question
[23:23] <yofel> rickferd: use !test ;)
[23:23] <ChrisDruif> Most of the time we just sit and wait...
[23:24] <ChrisDruif> "We are the strong. silent type" ;)
[23:25] <rickferd> ok I will be back later on I am still working on my embedded blue tooth, can't get it up yet if I get to frustrated I will be in here to get help.
[23:25] <ChrisDruif> Great :)