[09:46] <Phineas> wait for my brother
[09:49] <Ferb> here I am
[09:49] <Phineas> and here i am as well
[09:49] <Ferb> what do we do now
[09:50] <Phineas> Ferb wait for an op
[09:50] <Ferb> sorry I am late
[09:51] <popey> What are you hoping to achieve with this deceit?
[09:51] <popey> 14:47 < Ferb_> I have to tell you the trough right now
[09:51] <popey> 14:48 < Ferb_> I AM Phineas Phineas is waffle
[09:51] <popey> 14:48 < Ferb_> we are all the same person
[09:51] <popey> 14:48 < Ferb_> keep that in mind
[09:52] <Ferb> proof my brother exsists
[09:52] <Ferb> I never said that
[09:53] <Phineas> why would he have said that if i am here now
[09:53] <popey> It is Sunday morning and I am going to go and play with my kids (of which there are two, not one pretending to be two) and not spend a moment more listening to this bullshit.
[09:53] <popey> Fine someone else to annoy.
[09:53] <popey> *Find
[09:53] <Phineas> we will wont we ferb
[09:54] <Ferb> yes Phineas we will
[09:55] <Phineas> who else is there today
[09:57] <Ferb> no one by the looks of things
[09:58] <Phineas> popey who is here that we can talk to, then we'll leave you alone
[09:59] <popey> If you /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-uk you will see who the operators of #ubuntu-uk are.
[10:00] <rww> /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-uk list, actually. flags requires privileges or something.
[10:00] <Phineas> you are not atherized to do this operation
[10:02] <Ferb> AlanBell, we need to talk
[10:03] <Phineas> not around by the looks of things
[10:04] <AlanBell> o/
[10:04] <Phineas> ahh hes here
[10:05] <Phineas> AlanBell me and my brother are here to talk about #ubuntu-uk and getting things back to normal
[10:06] <Ferb> and by brother he means me, his brother
[10:07] <AlanBell> I see
[10:09] <Phineas> so we need to sort out this big mistake that i beleave the ops of #ubuntu-uk have made
[10:10] <Ferb> they think we re the same person but we are not, we re just brothers
[10:11] <AlanBell> with a pet platypus
[10:12] <Phineas> yeah
[10:12] <Ferb> hes right
[10:13] <AlanBell> the fantasy play acting is all jolly good clean fun, just #ubuntu-uk isn't really the place for it
[10:13] <Phineas> its not?
[10:13] <AlanBell> no, it is getting irritating, which is not good, and is the reason you have been removed
[10:13] <Phineas> you mean we
[10:14] <AlanBell> whatever
[10:14] <Ferb> ok
[10:14] <AlanBell> what other channels do you participate in?
[10:15] <Phineas> ##windows and #defocus
[10:15] <Phineas> we both do
[10:15] <Ferb> right again brother
[10:16] <AlanBell> well #defocus is an offtopic channel where your messing about is probably appropriate
[10:17] <AlanBell> I can't imagine anything serious happens in ##windows, so that is probably OK too
[10:17] <Phineas> right
[10:17] <Ferb> yeah
[10:17] <AlanBell> so why do you want to get in to the #ubuntu-uk channel?
[10:18] <Phineas> so that if we have any issues with ubuntu we can get help
[10:19] <Ferb> yeah plus its just as annoying to be banned as we are to you
[10:20] <AlanBell> support is available in #ubuntu
[10:21] <Ferb> yeah but we like #ubuntu-UK
[10:21] <AlanBell> so do I
[10:21] <AlanBell> it is nice and friendly and lacks annoying people
[10:21] <rww> I note #ubuntu is even more strict about nonsense than #ubuntu-uk, if you end up there.
[10:21] <AlanBell> and as you are UK based it would be great to get you back in there
[10:22] <AlanBell> we just have to address the annoying part
[10:24] <Ferb> apologies for that
[10:24]  * AlanBell ponders
[10:25] <Phineas> yeah apoligies
[10:26] <AlanBell> you are not really doing a great deal to convince me you are going to make a constructive contribution to the channel
[10:26] <Ferb> I am not very good at doing that
[10:28] <Ferb> we all need help with ubuntu and if something goes wrong you have no help what so ever
[10:29] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/ & http://lists.ubuntu.com/ & http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu & http://ubuntuforums.org/ can all provide support.
[10:29] <AlanBell> we both know there are other support channels, both on IRC and the forums, ask.ubuntu.com and the mailing lists
[10:29] <AlanBell> I missed launchpad
[10:30] <AlanBell> Phineas/Ferb ok, so why are you doing the pretending to be two cartoon characters? I don't get what is going on in your head
[10:31] <AlanBell> you are sat there with one computer on the sky broadband and one on an O2 mobile broadband connection
[10:31] <Ferb> I mean look at Phineas in ##windows hes fine but in #ubuntu-UK nothing can happen
[10:31] <AlanBell> why?
[10:32] <Ferb> yes your right I am on two things at once
[10:32] <Ferb> and also I love the show Phineas and Ferb
[10:32] <AlanBell> it is a good show, my kids like it
[10:33] <AlanBell> although the 10 year old has grown out of it really
[10:33] <Myrtti> are we done here?
[10:34] <Ferb> if this helps I am autistic and adictid to children's tv
[10:34] <Myrtti> no, it doesn't help
[10:34] <AlanBell> see the interesting thing about that is I am borderline ASD myself and I have a book on my desk right now about autism
[10:35] <AlanBell> pretending to be something that you are not is to put it mildly not a characteristic trait of Asbergers or autism
[10:35] <Ferb> everyone has obsessons about things and thats all this is
[10:35] <AlanBell> there is something about you that isn't neurotypical, but I am not sure what it is
[10:36] <AlanBell> and you are not in #wrongplanet
[10:37] <Ferb> neather do i
[10:37] <Ferb> I know, I have my own little world sometimes
[10:37] <AlanBell> if you were in the red balloon learner centre then you do/did have real issues of some kind
[10:38] <Ferb> just autisum thats all
[10:41] <Ferb> he he
[10:46] <AlanBell> what other channels have you been banned from?
[10:46] <Ferb> any questions
[10:46] <Ferb> no other channels
[10:46] <popey> he was banned from -uk some time ago when he went by the nick 'waffle'
[10:47] <popey> although now claims that wasnt him
[10:47] <popey> then says it was
[10:47] <AlanBell> fairly sure I saw ikonia talk about you trolling some time back
[10:47] <AlanBell> bolt was a name before that I believe
[10:47] <popey> yes
[10:48] <Ferb> sorry to say this but I don't preticualy like ikonia
[10:48] <Ferb> it was as well, but when I was bolt I had just discovered irc
[10:48] <Myrtti> ahhhh, things have not changed. I remember him too from before my Ubuntu IRC break
[10:49] <rww> I don't. I feel so left out :(
[10:50] <Myrtti> I don't really think there's anything to be done here
[10:51] <Ferb> id say see what happens
[10:53]  * popey is not optimistic. Bolt -> Waffle -> Phineas -> Ferb. All exhibiting the same annoying behaviour. "See what happens" will almost certainly mean you come back with some other nickname in a few months and we go through this monumental waste of time and effort again.
[10:54] <Myrtti> are we done here? I feel like singing...
[10:54] <Ferb> I have obsessons and like to change my nick accordingly
[10:54] <popey> changing your nick is not a problem at all
[10:54] <popey> coming back and flat out lying is
[10:54] <popey> you have repeatedly claimed you are not bolt/waffle/phineas.
[10:54] <popey> these are lies.
[10:55] <Ferb> yeas they are lies, sorru
[10:55] <Ferb> sorry
[10:57] <Ferb> like that was me quiting on my laptop
[10:58] <Ferb> and yes we are the same person,
[10:58] <AlanBell> I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone
[10:59] <Myrtti> going around in circles there
[11:00] <Ferb> I know
[11:00] <Ferb> just ask me a question and I'll awnser honestly
[11:01] <Myrtti> go away?
[11:02] <Ferb> no, cos I am trying to sort things out here
[11:02] <AlanBell> not sure that you are
[11:02] <Myrtti> you are just messing them up worse
[11:03] <Ferb> well I have stopped messing with them
[11:03] <AlanBell> Ferb: go use different channels, use the mailing list, do other stuff, show that you are being constructive and sensible and not annoying people and then that will sort it out
[11:03]  * Ferb growls
[11:09] <elky> well, at least he's given you both his current broadband and 3g ips :)
[11:10] <popey> heh
[11:11] <popey> how the hell he olds down a job I dont know
[11:12] <evilvish> whois gives the ip, but how does one get the provider?
[11:13] <popey> mtr, whois, nslookup..
[11:13] <Myrtti> popey: I thought ge was
[11:14] <Myrtti> he was a teenager?
[11:15] <popey> i have seen him give details about his job working in a warehouse
[11:15] <Myrtti> Oh alright
[11:17] <AlanBell> evilvish: just whois was sufficient
[11:18] <evilvish> popey: thx.
[11:19] <AlanBell> there is something not quite right, but it isn't ASD
[11:19] <evilvish> AlanBell , yea. . previously i was just using the irc whois
[11:19] <AlanBell> he went here http://www.redballoonlearner.co.uk/
[11:27] <k1l> !1984
[11:28] <evilvish> 0.o
[11:29] <evilvish> why is the factoid only for that yr?
[11:30] <rww> evilvish: 1984 as in "big brother is watching you"
[11:31] <evilvish> rww: oh!
[11:31]  * evilvish googles the reference further..
[11:31] <popey> I thought jussi banned all comedy factoids?
[11:34] <AlanBell> right before I spent ages formulating a !klingon language one
[11:36] <Myrtti> not everything is banned
[11:36] <AlanBell> well not ages, but it was a year ago, Jan 3rd
[11:36] <AlanBell> rI'Se'vamDaq tera'ngan Hol neH jatlhlu'. DaH yItlheD!
[11:36] <rww> that was vanity factoids, not comedy factoids
[11:36] <rww> "!rww is <reply> rww eats puppies", or whatever
[11:36] <rww> although I think a lot of the comedy stuff got moved to be channel-specific too