[00:54]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[01:20] <pehden> hi all
[01:23] <pehden> any one know how to set up openvpn
[01:24] <pehden> any one know how to set up openvpn y/n
[01:26] <pehden> well
[01:28] <pehden> dead room
[01:32] <pmatulis> pehden: try docs on openvpn.net
[01:33] <pehden> I have been but i think im missing someithing cause what im reading doesnt show for one thing thats in webmin
[01:43] <deadsmith> anyone know an acceptable grub argument for video on the efifb for an XServe2,1?
[01:43] <pmatulis> pehden: webmin doesn't work with ubuntu very well so i understand
[01:43] <pehden> I know
[01:44] <pmatulis> pehden: what about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[01:44] <pehden> and i half to find things that work wth webmin adn run on ubuntu
[01:44] <pehden> I got http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config
[01:44] <pehden> could remote (Remote IP)   and  ifconfig (Transport network)  be the same addresses?
[01:44] <pmatulis> pehden: what's the problem anyway?
[01:44] <deadsmith> or alternatively, if there's a flag for text login for ubuntu?
[01:45] <pehden> could remote (Remote IP)   and  ifconfig (Transport network)  be the same addresses?
[01:45] <pehden> based on the normal start up part of  http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config
[01:46] <jforman> pehden: huh? what is 'transport network' ? (and there is no need to repeat yourself)
[01:47] <no--name> hi. anyone know how i can get the right click --> extract here for file-roller? It is in -desktop by default but after I installed file-roller under -server it isn't there 8(
[01:47] <pehden> in webmin it has both of those to put in for local and peer and then for remote it has 2 entrees
[01:48] <jforman> pehden: are you trying to configure your openvpn server or a client?
[01:49] <pehden> the server
[01:49] <pehden> i can get one running but then the client fails to connect
[01:49] <pehden> so i guess i did it wrong
[01:49] <jforman> i'm going to go out on a limb and say, ditch webmin in this case and edit the config file by hand. that way you can run openvpn on the command line, kick up the verbosity, and see what the problem is
[01:50] <pehden> i would use ssh if i could figure out where they hide the .conf
[01:51] <jforman> its normally in /etc/openvpn (you could also look at the ps output for the openvpn process)
[01:54] <pehden> from the url pmatulis posted it says it should be there called server.conf
[01:55] <jforman> it can be called anything, that is just the default.
[01:55] <pehden> looking there now for it
[02:01] <pehden> do you have webmin on a server
[02:02] <jforman> me? no.
[02:04] <pehden> afk
[02:09] <billybigrigger> any mail gurus around?
[02:10] <billybigrigger> i'm having quite the time trying to figure out this relay access denied error
[02:10] <billybigrigger> recieving my mail is no problem
[02:11] <billybigrigger> but trying to send to my other gmail account results in a relay access denied problem
[02:12] <deadsmith> is there an alternate ISO for installation from a USB key?
[02:15] <pehden> back
[02:16] <pehden> billybigrigger: who is your ISP
[02:16] <billybigrigger> not sending mail through my isp
[02:16] <billybigrigger> i have my own server setup for incoming/outgoing mail
[02:16] <billybigrigger> ie outbound smtp via mail.thefrozencanuck.ca
[02:17] <pehden> billybigrigger: Is this server at your house
[02:17] <billybigrigger> no
[02:17] <billybigrigger> vps
[02:17] <billybigrigger> linode
[02:17] <billybigrigger> sorry for the 1 liners... :D
[02:17] <billybigrigger> would you like a paste of my main.cf and mail.log that shows the error?
[02:18] <pehden> billybigrigger: hmm
[02:18] <pehden> billybigrigger: send it private
[02:19] <pehden> billybigrigger: the conf hould be enough
[02:19] <billybigrigger> ok
[02:20] <billybigrigger> you talking main.cf or master.conf?
[02:21] <pehden> billybigrigger: main is the one i was thinking of
[02:22] <billybigrigger> k
[02:22] <billybigrigger> there you go
[02:22] <pehden> billybigrigger: the relayhost= needs to be localhost or the relayserver domain
[02:23] <pehden> billybigrigger: if its blank it can fail
[02:24] <pehden> billybigrigger: i would recomend putting the domain of the mail.thefrozen   etc.
[02:26] <billybigrigger> ok
[02:26] <billybigrigger> ill try that
[02:27] <pehden> billybigrigger: let me know how it goes
[02:27] <billybigrigger> billybigrigger@timmy:~$ sudo service postfix restart
[02:27] <billybigrigger>  * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                                                                                                        postfix: fatal: myhostname and relayhost parameter settings must not be identical: mail.thefrozencanuck.ca
[02:27] <billybigrigger>                                                                                                                                                                  [fail]
[02:27] <billybigrigger> oops
[02:28] <pehden> try localhost
[02:32] <billybigrigger> nope
[02:32] <billybigrigger> pehden, postfix will restart but still same error
[02:33] <pehden> billybigrigger: lpost me the log
[02:34] <pehden> billybigrigger: prvt post me the log error
[02:34] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: why don't you post the error you're getting in this channel.  that would be the first step if you want help
[02:35] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/YxFZy7KN
[02:36] <billybigrigger> that's me tailing the mail.log as i attempt to send the message
[02:38] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: what's this shawcable.net stuff?  you're sending to gmail.com
[02:38] <billybigrigger> whois me
[02:38] <billybigrigger> :P
[02:38] <billybigrigger> that's me
[02:39] <pehden> lol
[02:40] <billybigrigger> does my ip address have to be included in mynetworks?
[02:41] <billybigrigger> as anyone not listed there can't use postfix correct?
[02:41] <pehden> billybigrigger: i gonna compare it to my config real quick
[02:43] <billybigrigger> there we go
[02:43] <billybigrigger> added 68.146.143.0/24 to mynetworks and i got no error
[02:43] <billybigrigger> well that's stupid
[02:43] <billybigrigger> what if my home ip changes, i won't be able to sendmail through my mailserver?
[02:44] <billybigrigger> hmm
[02:44] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: sigh.  pastebin 'postconf -n'
[02:45] <pehden> you can set up local dns
[02:46] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/vhUsQL1G
[02:46] <pehden> you should be able to add localhost or 127.0.0.1
[02:47] <billybigrigger> seems those mails didnt go through
[02:47] <billybigrigger> i sent 2 out, 1 to gmail and 1 to hotmail and both havent arrived yet
[02:47] <billybigrigger> so evolution didn't complain but something is still wrong i think
[02:49] <pehden> billybigrigger: is reject_unauth_destination  this list for denied or allowed only
[02:49] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: what is the internal ip address of your server?
[02:50] <pehden> thats what i was thinkinh too pmatulis
[02:50] <billybigrigger> 192.168.143.210
[02:51] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: so that should be a part of $mynetworks
[02:52] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: just change the /24 to /16
[02:52] <billybigrigger> yeah it is
[02:52] <billybigrigger> 192.168.0.0/16
[02:52] <billybigrigger> you mean?
[02:52] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: yes
[02:54] <billybigrigger> ok
[02:55] <billybigrigger> should me home ip be included in mynetworks?
[02:55] <billybigrigger> i removed it and i get relay access denied again
[02:56] <billybigrigger> also i'm seeing this now after pehden inquired about it
[02:56] <billybigrigger> Jan  8 21:54:53 timmy postfix/smtpd[29492]: generic_checks: name=reject_unauth_destination
[02:56] <billybigrigger> Jan  8 21:54:53 timmy postfix/smtpd[29492]: reject_unauth_destination: donzavitz@gmail.com
[02:57] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: pastebin 'postconf -n' again
[02:57] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: as well as 'ifconfig'
[02:58] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/x8QgeBbJ
[02:59] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[02:59] <billybigrigger> i see a problem :P
[02:59] <billybigrigger>           inet addr:69.164.212.132  Bcast:69.164.212.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:59] <billybigrigger> shouldn't matter though as 192.168.0.0/16 is included in mynetworks
[03:00] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: i'm going to bed very soon, please comply
[03:01] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/LhWKGbLm
[03:01] <billybigrigger> there ya go
[03:02] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: so the client you're sending the mail from.  it's on what subnet?
[03:03] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: hello?
[03:04] <billybigrigger> this is me
[03:04] <billybigrigger> 68.146.143.85
[03:04] <billybigrigger> thats my client from my house
[03:04] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: well you can put just that ip in mynetworks if you want
[03:04] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: if it will just be you sending mail
[03:04] <pehden> or set up a dyndns
[03:05] <billybigrigger> no i have others using the mailserver
[03:05] <pehden> I would suggest taking off the restr
[03:05] <bgupta> I am trying to setup a multihomed home server with a public IP on one side and a private on the other. This will be setup with L2TP/IPSec. I have so far got the multiphomed networking working, but I have two default routes..  (One to my internal gateway, and one to my public gateway.) I'm wondering from the networkign side if two default routes is best practice in this case. (I want VPN clients to both be able to access inte
[03:05] <bgupta> hosts and use the VPN connection for internet access)
[03:05] <pehden> *restriction
[03:06] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: so you have not local clients.  i didn't know that
[03:06] <pehden> and make authication be with username and password
[03:06] <pehden> you could do a proxy for it
[03:07] <pehden> set up a proxy server for the users to connect to the proxy and they would be local
[03:07] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: the standard is to set up SMTP AUTH
[03:08] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: in conjunction with STARTTLS
[03:08] <billybigrigger> ok
[03:08] <pehden> pmatulis : I agree
[03:08] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: basically you need to authenticate the remote users who will be allowed to send mail through your server (relay)
[03:08] <billybigrigger> ok
[03:08] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: (SMTP AUTH)
[03:09] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: but you should encrypt the connection otherwise p/w is in cleartext
[03:09] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: (STARTTLS - SSL)
[03:09] <pehden> pmatulis : I would love to do that on my server do you have in mind an artical that would show the conf for this set up
[03:10] <billybigrigger> ubuntu server guide :)
[03:10] <pehden> i have the ssl part
[03:10] <pmatulis> pehden: no, but it's all over the internet
[03:10] <billybigrigger> which i followed...but maybe i have something screwed up
[03:10] <billybigrigger> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/postfix.html#postfix-smtp-authentication
[03:10] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: bingo
[03:11] <pehden> pmatulis : I use webmin so it makes this a little difficult
[03:11] <billybigrigger> eeewwwww
[03:11] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: for now, you can hardcode your IP address in mynetworks
[03:11] <billybigrigger> :P
[03:11] <billybigrigger> no i'd rather get this figured out and working correctly
[03:11] <billybigrigger> i go over the server guide again
[03:11] <billybigrigger> s/i/i'll
[03:11] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: mynetworks says who can relay mail, usually it is for your LAN-side clients.  that's why i was confused
[03:12] <billybigrigger> oh
[03:12] <billybigrigger> i didn't know that :P good to know
[03:12] <pmatulis> billybigrigger: ok, good night
[03:13] <pehden> lol an extreme way would be forall the clients to have dyndns
[03:14] <pehden> then add there dyndns domain in there
[03:14] <pehden> and it should check for there ip
[03:14] <billybigrigger> pmatulis, night, thanks for the help!
[03:15] <billybigrigger> thats too extreme for me
[03:15] <pehden> lol i just thought of it lol
[03:20] <pehden> i wish i knew how to do the force login for sending mail
[03:20] <pehden> so i didnt have to use webmail
[03:20] <pehden> i like it cause it remembers my filters
[03:22] <pehden> billybigrigger: do you know anything about openvpn
[03:24] <billybigrigger> negative
[03:25] <pehden> billybigrigger: do you know how to make postfix user login to send
[03:26] <pienkie> hi guys. I've started a remote server installation & initiated the format of a 1 TB HDD, which will take a *looooooong* time. I'm now off-site & have connected OK (installer@xxxxxx), & I d like to confirm that the format had completed before continuing with the installation. How can I check this, please?
[03:28] <billybigrigger> pienkie, should have used screen
[03:29] <billybigrigger> screen saves the ssh connection for you to reconnect to later
[03:30] <pienkie> billybigrigger: i did not know that. unfortunately I'm not that intemately familiar with screen (I should probably swot up on that...)
[03:42] <billybigrigger> hmmm
[03:42] <billybigrigger> so now i can send out emails...but i'm getting relay access denied from gmail and hotmail when replying to my test mails...
[03:42] <billybigrigger> so now i can't recieve mail...wtf
[03:43] <Delerium_> billy: home server?
[03:43] <billybigrigger> no
[03:43] <billybigrigger> vps
[03:43] <Delerium_> K, most the ISP block port 25, that's why I was asking :(
[03:44] <pehden> I asked that earlier
[03:44] <Delerium_> I wasn't there...
[03:44] <pehden> oh
[03:44] <pehden> so now cant recieve
[03:45] <billybigrigger> yeah
[03:45] <billybigrigger> haha
[03:46] <billybigrigger> Jan  8 22:41:47 timmy postfix/smtpd[30537]: generic_checks: name=reject_unauth_destination
[03:46] <billybigrigger> Jan  8 22:41:47 timmy postfix/smtpd[30537]: reject_unauth_destination: billybigrigger@thefrozencanuck.ca
[03:47] <Delerium_> Billy: what VPS company are you using?  I'm looking for one in a near future
[03:47] <billybigrigger> linode
[03:48] <billybigrigger> i only had mail.thefrozencanuck.ca in mydestination
[03:48] <Delerium_> thanks, are they in  US ?
[03:48] <billybigrigger> now i have mail.thefrozencanuck.ca, thefrozencanuck.ca
[03:48] <billybigrigger> all is working great now
[03:48] <billybigrigger> yup
[03:48] <billybigrigger> i couldn't find one in canada
[03:48] <billybigrigger> well atleast worth spending my money on
[03:48] <Delerium_> iWeb in Montreal looks good
[03:49] <billybigrigger> im pretty sure linode comes highly recommended around here
[03:49] <billybigrigger> i think it was here that suggested it to me
[03:49] <pehden> I host my own site
[03:49] <pehden> so i dont pay much
[03:49] <billybigrigger> pehden, all fine and dandy until you want to run a mailserver :P
[03:49] <billybigrigger> my ISP wouldn't allow it so i had to go with a vps
[03:49] <pehden> i use webmail
[03:49] <billybigrigger> wouldn't allow me to send out smtp on port 25
[03:50] <pehden> you have to use there mail relay
[03:50] <Delerium_> same here, just bought a home server with Custom DynDns and my ISP is blocking port 25 (in and out
[03:50] <Delerium_> so I might by the DynDns Mail Relay or go for a VPS
[03:50] <pehden> Delerium you in the UsA
[03:50] <Delerium_> Montreal, Canada
[03:50] <pehden> oh
[03:51] <pehden> they should allow 25
[03:51] <billybigrigger> now if i could only get effin email filters to work in evolution i'd be laughing
[03:51] <pehden> you will need seige
[03:51] <pehden> to be on dovecot
[03:51] <pehden> or use imap4
[03:51] <Delerium_> pedhen: using my ISP smtp, I can send mail judt fine, but incoming doesn't work
[03:52] <pehden> thats port 110
[03:52] <pehden> then not 25
[03:53] <Delerium_> 110 is Pop, right?
[03:53] <pehden> they shouldnt be blocking that one
[03:53] <pehden> 110 pop3
[03:53] <pehden> and 143 imap
[03:54] <Delerium_> ok, but I have my own mail server at home. with a MX record, so it's goes to port 25 (if I'm not mistaken)
[03:54] <pehden> sendin mail aka smtp is port 25
[03:55] <toddnine_> Hi guys.  I need a cluster change event that will allow me to fire system scripts.  Essentially I have 3 nodes of haproxy, and when the primary node fails, a new node needs elected and needs to set it's ip.  Any systems you can recommend?  I'm looking at ucarp and pacemaker
[03:56] <Delerium_> pehden: yup, there a tool at DynDns that will redirect incoming email to a another port (like 2025), but it costs 50$ a year..
[03:57] <pehden> Delerium_:interesting
[03:58] <pehden> Delerium_: incoming mail is 110 and 143
[03:58] <Delerium_> pedgen: but a bit costly... I bought my domain mame + DynDns Custom with them (around 70$) and now I have to put another 50$
[03:59] <pehden> i got my domain for 6.95
[03:59] <Delerium_> pegden: pop3 and imap are used to get mail from a mail server, in my case, I have my own mail server so I need to accept smtp request (I think... still learning on this one) ;)
[04:01] <pehden> the server will send you the emails on port 110 or 143 to your client and when you send to your server to send to other emails it sends on port 25
[04:02] <Delerium_> Jet's win: Colts out.
[04:03] <Delerium_> pehden: I'm the server, not a client ;)
[04:04] <pehden> outlook is client
[04:05] <Delerium_> I have my own mail server, so I use Outlook (or wathever tool) to connect to this server, using, yes, port 110 or 143
[04:06] <pehden> lol
[04:07] <pehden> whyats your web sote
[04:07] <pehden> sorry eatin ribs
[04:08] <Delerium_> In construction, just start last week... There's only a basic wordpress install
[04:08] <Delerium_> Ntohing much to see
[04:08] <Delerium_> Still working on my project ;)
[04:09] <Delerium_> but you can always try: www.elezium.com
[04:09] <pehden> ill added it to my spider
[04:10] <Delerium_> Mad Men! :) I see you!!!
[04:11] <pehden> youll get hits from it every night at midnight central
[04:12] <Delerium_> I prefet not since the this is a temp domain name, it will change soon and this hostname will only be used for my own test purposed...
[04:13] <pehden> k
[04:14] <pehden> i can remove it when i finish eatin
[04:15] <Delerium_> 98.217.65.X, it's you?
[04:15] <pehden> my spider has few domains
[04:16] <pehden> mine 69.*
[04:18] <pehden> look for my useragen named pehden
[04:18] <Delerium_> got it.. someone else is poking me! hhe
[04:19] <pehden> lol
[04:20] <Delerium_> bha.. this is a test server at home
[04:21] <pehden> brb
[04:23] <pehden> why not use both
[04:24] <pehden> my server is hosting 5  domains
[04:24] <Delerium_> pehden: I might go with a VPS, not sure yet
[04:26] <pehden> and with most dns poviders you can use different IP to point to the same domain
[04:27] <pehden> with a different subdomain
[04:34] <Delerium_> pehden: gotta go, take care buddy
[04:35] <pehden> take care
[04:35] <CppIsWeird> i run "watch" it says its not installed, please install package procps. apt-get procps and its already installed and up to date.
[06:07] <StrangeCharm> if i just want to execute a single command via ssh, is there any way to specify this from the client? as in ssh --just-run-one-command "more file" user@host
[06:09] <timo> StrangeCharm: yes, e.g. 'ssh user@host ls'
[06:10] <timo> StrangeCharm: so just type the command after 'user@host'
[06:24] <CppIsWeird> i run "watch" it says its not installed, please install package procps. apt-get procps and its already installed and up to date.
[06:41] <pienkie> hi guys. I think I really 5cr3w3d the pooch on this one. I'm busy with a remote install, & the partitioning (lookup) step hangs at 50%. the main & swap partitions are created & formatted, but I'm having difficulty continuing the installation. is there some way to manually (via CLI) complete that stem (i.e. assigning the swap & "/" part), so that the installer can continue?
[06:41] <pienkie> the only other option left to me, it seems, is to get in my car, drive all the way to the site, & restart the installation
[06:43] <billybigrigger> hehe
[06:43] <billybigrigger> should have used screen
[06:43] <pienkie> hehehhehe
[06:43] <pienkie> yea....
[06:44] <billybigrigger> do you have gas in the tank? :P
[06:44] <pienkie> but how would I use screen @ the `debial-installer`? it's not even in the commandset
[06:44] <billybigrigger> oh fresh install?
[06:44] <billybigrigger> i thought you were upgrading or something
[06:44] <pienkie> yea….. was hoping to avoid shooting myself in the foot like this...
[06:44] <billybigrigger> yeah you kind need physical access for that
[06:45] <pienkie> no, no. fresh install, from scratch
[06:46] <CppIsWeird> i run "watch" it says its not installed, please install package procps. apt-get procps and its already installed and up to date. how can i get the watch command functioning?
[06:46] <pienkie> phys access: bit silly…. I've booted in, set & cleaned the parts & have remote ssh access OK. *theorecially* I has hoping to restart the installer (while retaining an SSH session) & start from the top
[06:48] <jmarsden> CppIsWeird: Can you run /usr/bin/watch ?  Does that file exist?
[06:50] <CppIsWeird> oh i renamed it, i remember now. :P
[06:50] <CppIsWeird> thanks. :-)
[06:50] <jmarsden> You're welcome :)
[06:50]  * CppIsWeird renames it back
[10:12]  * pehden is away: I'm busy
[10:59] <andriijas> why is my network interface named eth2 and not eth0
[10:59] <andriijas> how can i rename it eth0?
[11:01] <oCean> andriijas: see /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I think you can change it there
[11:04] <KidBro> Hi. I have a problem with Apache/PHP on my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. First please advise if there is a specific channel for this?
[11:06] <oCean> KidBro: if it's very apache specific, there is #httpd channel you could try
[11:06] <KidBro> I don't know how specific it is. The problem is that php has stopped working after running updates.
[11:07] <KidBro> I am not really a power user when it comes to apache. Until now I have installed it and it has worked...
[11:07] <KidBro> So I don't know where to start :-|
[11:08] <oCean> The webserver works, but php doesn't?
[11:10] <andriijas> oCean: thx
[11:11] <KidBro> yes
[11:12] <KidBro> I use php for webmail and gallery. When I try to enter any of these the browser will attempt to download the php file.
[11:12] <oCean> KidBro: create a test.php in your webserver root, like this one http://pastebin.com/hUe1Vhfx, and open the file in the webbrowser. It should show you all php information
[11:12]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[11:12]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[11:12]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[11:12]  * He4D|OFF ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[11:13] <oCean> !afk > He4D|OFF
[11:13]  * He4D|OFF ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[11:13] <oCean> KidBro: in that case it seems php module is not loaded. Check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled if the php5.conf is linked there
[11:14] <KidBro> Just a moment
[11:16] <KidBro> It is not listed there
[11:16] <oCean> KidBro: run "sudo a2enmod php5" then "sudo service apache2 restart"
[11:19] <KidBro> oCean: No I can do the php.test you suggested. Webmail also works. Gallery not, but there may be other reasons for this
[11:21] <gobbe> is there any errors on logs?
[11:22] <oCean> well if the test works, then php is correctly enabled. Has to be in the gallery software then. Maybe logging in /var/log/apache2 can give some clues
[11:25] <KidBro> Yes, I think that is an issue for a different forum. Roundcube webmail was more critical for me anyway, so thanks a lot! I one new questions though: Is the information listed by the test.php useful for anyone trying to break into the server or can I leave it freely available?
[11:26] <gobbe> i would be
[11:26] <gobbe> i wouldn't let it there :)
[11:28] <KidBro> OK, I will hide it then. But I will keep it somewhere for future use. It seems to provide a great overview of the settings. Thanks for the help both of you. It would have taken me a week to find in forums and helpfiles :-D
[11:48] <RoyK> oCean: or even apache2ctl graceful
[14:16] <Fidelix> Hey guys, can please someone help me? My MariaDB is not starting: /usr/bin/mysqladmin: relocation error: /usr/bin/mysqladmin: symbol randominit, version libmysqlclient_16 not defined in file libmysqlclient.so.16 with link time reference
[14:17] <RoyK> IIRC mariadb isn't included in ubuntu, is it?
[14:24] <gobbe> no it itsn't
[14:25] <gobbe> Fidelix: i would turn on mariadb's support in this case
[14:26] <Fidelix> gobbe, they said i should post on ubuntu forums, because it looks like a dependency problem. Well... i'll somehow figure it out..
[14:26] <Fidelix> Thanks.
[14:27] <gobbe> yeah, but it's not included on ubuntu so it's quite hard to support every package out there :)
[14:27] <gobbe> it looks like somekind of problem with libmysqlclient
[14:57] <dassouki> what solutions exist for a linux enviorenment that allow for outlook, cal, mail and be able to do scheduling services (just like in ms excchange)
[15:01] <gobbe> zimbra
[15:02] <gobbe> for example
[15:09] <chronos> hey people. someone have problems with bridged networking running ubunt-server on virtualbox 4 ?
[15:12] <RoyK> chronos: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[15:13] <RoyK> chronos: I don't have it running for vbox, but it should be the same basics
[15:14] <gobbe> chronos: and please tell more, what kind of problems you have?
[15:20] <RoyK> chronos: http://pastebin.com/MuS3rDu7 <-- this is my setup, works well
[17:19] <yerkin> hi
[17:19] <yerkin> pleas help me
[17:19] <gobbe> ask the question
[17:20] <gobbe> without it it's quite hard
[17:21] <yerkin> i install ubuntu server 10.10 then i try install yum
[17:21] <yerkin> write   apt-get install yum
[17:21] <compdoc> why yum?
[17:21] <compdoc> apt-get isnt as good, but it works
[17:21] <yerkin> eroor  e:not found packet yum
[17:22] <yerkin> sorry for my bad engl
[17:22] <gobbe> apt-get is great
[17:22] <gobbe> yerkin: you should use apt-get, not yum
[17:23] <gobbe> but anyway, there's packet for yum
[17:23] <gobbe> if you want it, for some silly reason
[17:25] <yerkin> sorry for the stupid question
[17:25] <Wolfsherz> if you dont like apt-get try aptitude...
[17:26] <RoyK> compdoc: bugger off
[17:26] <RoyK> compdoc: apt-get is the preferred way
[17:27] <RoyK> compdoc: using yum on debian/ubuntu is nonsense
[17:27] <compdoc> for ubuntu, it is
[17:27] <compdoc> no question
[17:27] <RoyK> and debian
[17:27] <compdoc> Im not telling anyone to use yum
[17:27] <RoyK> and, last I checked, this was #ubuntu-server
[17:28] <RoyK> yerkin: just don't use yum
[17:28] <RoyK> that's just fedora/redhat gibberish
[17:28] <RoyK> apt is far better
[17:28] <RoyK> compdoc: sorry, I misunderstood - forget about it :)
[17:28] <yerkin> ok
[17:29] <RoyK> yerkin: migrating from fedora?
[17:30] <compdoc> Ive had apt-get install, then remove xinetd, and it left all the files behind and left the service running, so I dont think its all that great, but its what I use
[17:31] <RoyK> compdoc: apt-get remove --purge
[17:31] <yerkin> I read a book how to install openvpn. and there use the command         yum repolist
[17:31] <Wolfsherz> good alternative is aptitude, really.
[17:32] <Wolfsherz> this book is not written for ubuntu obviously
[17:32] <RoyK> Wolfsherz: not too much of a difference these days
[17:33] <Wolfsherz> RoyK: it takes better care of dependencies and installed packets that are obsolete when removing another packet.
[17:33] <Wolfsherz> yerkin: what book is that?
[17:33] <yerkin> yes. this book written for centos
[17:33] <RoyK> Wolfsherz: apt does that too these days
[17:34] <Wolfsherz> yerkin: centos is a whole other story... if you wish to install something on ubuntu apt-get is just the way to go.
[17:35] <Wolfsherz> RoyK: may have improved, i didn't check for a while because i'm happy with aptitude
[17:35] <yerkin> thank you. i undestand
[17:37] <yerkin> there is a difference ubuntu and other OC linux
[17:37] <RoyK> Wolfsherz: old package state was included, a year or two ago
[17:37] <RoyK> yerkin: all linux distros differ somehow
[17:38] <yerkin> who has a book for ubuntu?
[17:38] <Wolfsherz> yerkin: amazon ;)
[17:38] <RoyK> yerkin: google :)
[17:38] <yerkin> )))
[17:38] <Wolfsherz> yerkin: what country are you from?
[17:38] <compdoc> openvpn is great
[17:38] <RoyK> !guide
[17:39] <yerkin> kazahstan
[17:39] <RoyK> wow - can't remember talking to someone from there :)
[17:39] <Wolfsherz> yerkin: ok there is a good book on ubuntu-servers, but it is in german. the net is full of english documentation though, and you will probably find some good, like the linm ubotto gave.
[17:40] <RoyK> yerkin: what language do you speak there? something like russian?
[17:41] <yerkin> yes
[17:41] <yerkin> rus
[17:41] <RoyK> k
[17:42] <RoyK> anyway - the online server guid is quite good if you understand English, which I guess you do, as we're using the language now :P
[17:42] <RoyK> s/guid/guide/
[17:43] <yerkin> English level intermadia
[17:45] <yerkin> I'll read with an interpreter
[17:45] <yerkin> спасибо
[17:46] <gobbe> server guide is in fact quite good
[17:46] <gobbe> much better than it used to be
[17:46] <RoyK> Приглашаем Вас
[17:48] <yerkin> translated by  google,
[17:49] <RoyK> indeed :)
[17:50]  * RoyK doesn't know shit about the russian language
[17:55] <yerkin> i write      sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[17:55] <yerkin> error     e:not found dhcp3-server
[17:56] <RoyK> apt-get update
[17:57] <yerkin> my internet is not as fast
[17:58] <yerkin> tell me how to specify a proxy
 tell me how to specify a proxy
[18:02] <RoyK> for what? apt?
[18:03] <RoyK> yerkin: second hit on google http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96802
[18:03] <yerkin> I have a network has a proxy server
[18:03] <RoyK> see that link
[18:04] <yerkin> ok
[20:37] <MatBoy> he, do-relase-upgrade does not work, than we do it the hard way... upgrade teh sources.list and so a dist-upgrade :)
[20:41] <RoyK> heh
[20:42] <RoyK> do-release-upgrade has been working for me
[20:43] <RoyK> but then, if you try to upgrade from an LTS release to a non-lts-release perhaps you should change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:49] <MatBoy> RoyK: YEP always worked, but I get some server error
[20:52] <MatBoy> I hope this works
[21:04] <MatBoy> ok, the only think I have is an error while mounting boot... I can skip it and it boots OK
[21:04]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[21:04] <MatBoy> weird
[21:08] <MatBoy> no-one an idea ?
[21:11] <RoyK> MatBoy: I somehow doubt anyone will have an idea unless you post the error given
[21:14] <MatBoy> RoyK: as I said... I need to check the logs... maybe I can see somthing there
[21:16] <MatBoy> RoyK: weird is that it CAN boot
[21:16] <MatBoy> RoyK: and when I do a mount -a, it's listed again
[21:17] <niteria> Can I install ubuntu server from within another debian/ubuntu installation?
[21:18] <niteria> I did that with gentoo once
[21:21] <niteria> I guess debootstrap is what I'm looking for
[21:27] <gobbe> havent done ever in ubuntu so cannot say for sure but i would say that might be possible, have you tried to google?
[21:43] <RoyK> niteria: a VM or reinstalling the box?
[21:46] <Plecebo> I'm having trouble getting my raid array to start on reboot. It actually hangs the boot process and I have to press "S" to skip the mounting of my raid device. Once booted all of my devices show as spares in /proc/mdstat I have to "mdadm -S /dev/md0"  then "mdadm -A --scan" at which point the array rebuilds for 6-7 hours. it is pretty consistent so i'm usually pretty reluctant to reboot
[21:46] <Plecebo> lucid server btw
[21:49] <niteria> RoyK: reinstalling the box I guess
[22:05] <pienkie> hi gys
[22:10] <charlvn> hi pienkie
[22:11] <pienkie> how's it going?
[22:12] <charlvn> good thanks, you?
[22:12] <charlvn> you from south africa?
[22:13] <pienkie> originally, yes. residing in NZ @ the moment.
[22:13] <pienkie> & u?
[22:13] <RoyK> or new zealand?
[22:13] <RoyK> heh
[22:14]  * RoyK was peeking on the whois
[22:14] <pienkie> hehhe :)
[22:14] <charlvn> pienkie: i'm also south african, when i saw your nick it looked a little afrikaans to me, that's just why i asked
[22:15] <RoyK> do people that know Afrikaans understand Dutch?
[22:15] <pienkie> yea. acrually using the wife machine, so "pienkie" is actuall her nic. wher u from?
[22:15] <charlvn> RoyK: the two languages are quite different, i speak both
[22:15] <RoyK> ok
[22:15] <pienkie> RoyK: for the most part, yes. may take a bit longer to interperit the dialect
[22:16] <_Techie_> pienkie, hows your stay in New Zealand?
[22:16] <charlvn> pienkie: ah i was about to ask if you're a girl :) lol
[22:16]  * RoyK once met a guy from .nl called Tjalling by his last name, which is quite funny, since one of the nicknames for cannabis in Norway is Tjall
[22:17] <pienkie> RoyK: most Afrikaans-speaking people can understand Dutch with a bit of effort (we do a bit of Dutch literatre in school), but I doubt  native Dutch'ers would be able to easily understand Afrikaans
[22:17] <charlvn> RoyK: yes the dutch would know all about cannabis, but probably not more than most other nations
[22:17] <RoyK> I know
[22:17] <charlvn> RoyK: in the rest of the world lots of people smoke pot too, it just isn't legal
[22:18] <pienkie> _Techie_: NZ's pretty good. welcome change of pace: much more relaxed, & have access to the "1st world" more readily
[22:18] <RoyK> it's just that noone would be named Tjalling (freely translated to weedie) up here
[22:18] <charlvn> haha, yeah i'm sure
[22:18] <pienkie> charlvn: not "legal" in Holland either (legal nowhere in world); just decriminalized
[22:19] <charlvn> pienkie: whatever :)
[22:19] <RoyK> which is a good thing, keeps the cops from wasting time on minor stuff
[22:19] <charlvn> yep totally
[22:19] <RoyK> cops should spend more time on what's important
[22:19] <RoyK> some guy smoking weed isn't worse than someone drinking
[22:19] <charlvn> yeah they should leave ppl smoking the peace pipe
[22:20] <pienkie> ppl tokin' it up still shouldn't drive though...
[22:20] <RoyK> not at all
[22:20] <charlvn> nope not recommended
[22:20] <pienkie> … or on serious over-the-counter meds
[22:20] <RoyK> they're testing people for that up here now
[22:20] <pienkie> starting here too
[22:20] <pienkie> but mostly for meth-related jobbo's
[22:21] <charlvn> as they say, don't drink and drive, smoke and fly
[22:21] <pienkie> … though the window
[22:21]  * RoyK was thinking a little about the flying doctor
[22:21] <pienkie> *through*
[22:21] <charlvn> http://retardsunites.blogg.se/images/2010/image20070428030913420_80070584.jpg
[22:21] <RoyK> first time I heard about the flying doctor, I was laughing my ass off
[22:22] <pienkie> anyhow…….
[22:22] <pienkie> I'm having a bit of trouble with aptitude. I've set up a basic system (10.4.1 64) with the alternative install image, but now I'm trying to strip out unwanted junk. I've maked a number of areas in aptitude, such as the entire x11 section, but when I want to commit the ganges with "g", it indicated that it will proceed with installing a number of useless cr*p I don't want, cusch as compiz. what am I doing wrong?
[22:22] <RoyK> why didn't you just install the stripped version?
[22:25] <charlvn> interesting, i installed xorg+openbox on my mom's old laptop and didn't have any trouble with that
[22:25] <charlvn> started out with a server install though
[22:25] <pienkie> RoyK: looooong story. had load of trouble installing, so had to install from alternative disk. If I had the system here @ my "lab", I would've gone from minimal ISO & use my local repo cache, but I had to work on-site, so had to do the best with what I had on hnd. & it was getting late & Iwanted to finish off before I started making *serious* mistakes, such as detroying the patition of the backups
[22:25]  * RoyK wouldn't recommend a server install on a laptop
[22:26] <pienkie> hehehe
[22:26] <pienkie> yea..
[22:26] <charlvn> how so?
[22:27]  * RoyK is more worried about those two 100TB setups at work, while he is at home with a cast on his leg
[22:34] <pienkie> sooo…… aptitude front-end? how can I commit the removals without it installing anything new? (or please refer me to the correct RTFM-section, pls)
[22:45] <pienkie> found a hacked-together solution: `deborphan --guess-dev | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge` @ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-completely-uninstall-a-package-237772/#post3889272
[23:25] <dschuett> anyone know what script is called at the start of ubuntu server that prints out.... "System information as of ..... system load, users logged in, memeory usage.... ?
[23:26] <billybigrigger> thats landscape
[23:26] <billybigrigger> well whatever it spits out is part of landscape
[23:26] <dschuett> landscape?
[23:26] <billybigrigger> err whatever spits it out
[23:27] <RoyK> dschuett: /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo
[23:27] <dschuett> ahhh thanks RoyK!