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| i-pink | hii all | 01:32 |
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| i-pink | what i can do about "dependencies" problem | 01:35 |
| penguin42 | depends on the problem | 01:38 |
| i-pink | this is the error | 01:38 |
| i-pink | http://pastebin.com/qdKAkj5Z | 01:40 |
| i-pink | i try to do sudo apt-get update | 01:41 |
| i-pink | but it not help me.. | 01:42 |
| penguin42 | what happens if you do apt-get install libqt4-svg | 01:47 |
| i-pink | http://pastebin.com/p7wVVpkz | 01:49 |
| i-pink | this is the error^ | 01:50 |
| penguin42 | do a sudo apt-get update and then try it again? | 01:52 |
| penguin42 | are you running with any ppas or the like? | 01:52 |
| i-pink | i have tried that.. but i get the same problem.. | 01:53 |
| penguin42 | on 10.10/maverick? | 01:53 |
| penguin42 | ah - lucid? | 01:55 |
| i-pink | on ubutnu 10.04 LTS | 01:55 |
| i-pink | 64 bit | 01:55 |
| penguin42 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/libqt4-svg shows that there is a libqt4-svg version 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 in lucid-updates that is dependent on the 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 that it's trying to install | 01:55 |
| i-pink | so i need to make update to my ubuntu? | 01:56 |
| penguin42 | no, the fact that it's trying to install some 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 means it should be trying them all | 01:57 |
| penguin42 | what version of libqt4-svg is it trying to install? | 01:57 |
| * penguin42 needs to go to bed - it's nearly 2am | 01:57 | |
| i-pink | 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5 | 01:57 |
| penguin42 | ok, it should be installing 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 I think | 01:58 |
| penguin42 | right, bed | 01:58 |
| Pr0ph3t | How long will I have to wait before I can use that 3G modem on Linux | 02:18 |
| popey | AlanBell: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/09/marvell-powered-olpc-xo-1-75-only-draws-2-watts-of-power-finall/ | 08:47 |
| popey | looks familiar :) | 08:47 |
| lazarus_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tajPROM8wk&feature=related awesome | 08:49 |
| popey | lies | 08:49 |
| popey | http://youtu.be/cLgu-NR3kQg <- ubuntu powered table computer.. that's awesome :) | 08:50 |
| AlanBell | yeah, that is the 1.75, same case, different mobo | 08:57 |
| czajkowski | Aloha folks | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | morning czajkowski how are you on this fine sunday morning? | 09:10 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: grand kinda wishing my body learnt how to sleep more than 6 hrs though | 09:10 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: yeah i know that feeling well, and now i'm at work with coffee :S | 09:11 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: long weekend working | 09:11 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: yeah, it's my turn for working the weekend and next two weeks i'm on 3:30 - midnight :( | 09:11 |
| czajkowski | oucies | 09:12 |
| czajkowski | ouchies even | 09:12 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 09:12 |
| Laney | morning | 09:52 |
| kvarley | On 10.10 while loading a game I get error "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5". I think 10.10 has the .6 version, is there a way I can do a symbollic link? | 09:55 |
| Laney | poor phineas :( | 09:56 |
| popey | s/poor/timewasting lying troll/ | 09:58 |
| Laney | haha | 09:58 |
| * Laney is learning the recorder! | 09:58 | |
| Laney | only 20 years too late | 09:59 |
| * popey blocks his ears | 09:59 | |
| Laney | http://arta-recorder.org/ #quality | 09:59 |
| czajkowski | flash back to primary scholl it was compulsory we learnt it | 10:00 |
| * MooDoo has a flute, but hasn't picked it up in years | 10:01 | |
| pr0ph3t | hi all, how do I check whether I am running a specific driver or not? | 10:05 |
| popey | driver for what? | 10:06 |
| pr0ph3t | it's called asus_laptop | 10:06 |
| pr0ph3t | it's for specific asus laptops hardware | 10:06 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: which part of it? screen? hdd? ports? | 10:07 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, wifi, wwan controls | 10:07 |
| pr0ph3t | part of the driver should control the radio on off of my 3g card | 10:07 |
| pr0ph3t | basically there is a file called wwan which either contains 1 for on, or 0 for off | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | can't you try grepping for it in dmesg? | 10:08 |
| livingdaylight | good mornning | 10:09 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, I could if I knew how to :P | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: get to a prompt and type dmesg | grep <something> replace the something with what ever you want to look for, for example intel wireless you could put ipw | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | other than that, not sure | 10:13 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, this is not the same as pipe is it? "¦" | 10:14 |
| MooDoo | yes it's a pipe | 10:14 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, but this "¦" isn't a pipe | 10:16 |
| livingdaylight | my volume control appears ot have disappeared from my panel? | 10:16 |
| livingdaylight | I see the wireless icon ; date and time and username with logout options... but where is the volume control? | 10:16 |
| popey | pr0ph3t: that is a pipe | 10:17 |
| pr0ph3t | popey, it works different though, right? | 10:17 |
| popey | oh, sorry | 10:18 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: just use the one to the left of the Z key, on the backslash [depending on your keyboard] | 10:18 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: my fault, it all looks the same to me :) | 10:18 |
| pr0ph3t | doh | 10:18 |
| pr0ph3t | no it's my fault I'm blind | 10:18 |
| pr0ph3t | thanks | 10:18 |
| popey | :) | 10:18 |
| Andy_ | Does anyone know how to set the gamma from boot in maverick? I have a thinkpad with an integrated intel card. | 10:20 |
| Andy_ | tried creating xorg.conf, it gets processed but gamma settings are ignored | 10:20 |
| livingdaylight | searching in Add to panel I don't see a volume icon? | 10:22 |
| livingdaylight | I don't know what happened to my volume control but it's disappeared from my panel AND i don't seem to be able to add a new applet from AddtoPanel either? | 10:24 |
| MooDoo | livingdaylight: is this after a crash or does it happen when you reboot, or would a killall gnome-panel put it back when it restarts? | 10:25 |
| Andy_ | Volume is part of the indicator applet?? | 10:25 |
| MooDoo | livingdaylight: http://www.virtualhelp.me/linux/107-volume-controlicon-is-gone-ubuntu-1004 | 10:25 |
| livingdaylight | MooDoo, gonna try killall gnome-panel... but i noticed it yesterday and rebooting today hasn't fixed it | 10:25 |
| livingdaylight | I"ve just been told to add the indicator applet | 10:26 |
| livingdaylight | Andy_, sounds like it (no pun intended) | 10:26 |
| MooDoo | livingdaylight: yeah the link i sent says install that if you've not got it installed | 10:26 |
| livingdaylight | thanks guys... adding 'indicator' applet seems to have restsored volume controler on panel | 10:27 |
| MooDoo | yay o/ | 10:27 |
| Andy_ | :) | 10:27 |
| livingdaylight | *scary moment! :P | 10:28 |
| MooDoo | livingdaylight: lol :) | 10:29 |
| pr0ph3t | ok this is the paste bin of syslog when I try to connect with my 3g modem, any ideas why it fails? http://pastebin.com/qHgFryt5 | 10:37 |
| pr0ph3t | that's just the part specific to the 3g connection actually | 10:38 |
| pr0ph3t | not the whole file | 10:38 |
| pr0ph3t | any help or suggestion would be much appreciated, I am running natty narwhal fully up to date | 10:40 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: wouldn't have a clue i'm afraid, i've not even thought about natty yet | 10:41 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, I think it manages the connection in the same way as maverick does | 10:42 |
| pr0ph3t | any ideas about the lines 12-13? | 10:43 |
| MooDoo | non sorry | 10:44 |
| pr0ph3t | so modem manager opens the device ttyUSB0, in an instant changes the status from disabled to enabling | 10:45 |
| pr0ph3t | 4 seconds later it changes it to eanbling to disabled | 10:45 |
| pr0ph3t | anabling* | 10:45 |
| pr0ph3t | nooo | 10:46 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: take a look at this, see if it helps at all - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1531259 | 10:46 |
| pr0ph3t | enabling* | 10:46 |
| MooDoo | yes i'm just looking in google :) | 10:46 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, I tried sakis3g as well | 10:48 |
| jacobw | !ping | 11:07 |
| lubotu3 | ping-pong, a fun game for all the family | 11:07 |
| Laney | really | 11:09 |
| pr0ph3t | re all | 11:11 |
| pr0ph3t | I think I found the problem | 11:12 |
| jacobw | Table tennis players get very annoyed if you call it ping pong | 11:12 |
| jacobw | Even more annoyed than RMS if you don't say GNU/Linux | 11:12 |
| pr0ph3t | at boot I get the message "NetworkManager[578]: <info> WWAN now disabled by radio killswitch" | 11:12 |
| pr0ph3t | so it is a NetworkManager bug, because it activates it and then disables it for no apparent reason | 11:13 |
| pr0ph3t | I mean it happens everytime at boot, so it's not me pressing the wrong button or something | 11:14 |
| pr0ph3t | package NetworkManager doesn't exist? what's it called then? | 11:18 |
| pr0ph3t | is it network-manager? | 11:22 |
| niall | Hi. I need Ubuntu to support my 6-port serial card. I modified /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add a boot option with some extra kernel options, "config_serial_8250_runtime_uarts=6 config_serial_nr_uarts=6" --- this did not change the listings in /dev, I still only see ttyS0 through ttyS3. Can anyone help? I have posted relevant info with appropriate omissions here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552138/ | 11:23 |
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| jenkins | anyone familiar with joomla? I am trying to create a website using a template which I have uploaded, installed and chosen it in Extensions > Template manager but when i visit the site ip (a local one) i don't get any webpage | 11:34 |
| pr0ph3t | I filed a bug report, let's see the power of the open source community now :P | 11:46 |
| AlanBell | bug number? | 11:47 |
| pr0ph3t | AlanBell, bug #700627 | 11:47 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 700627 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager switches 3G modem radio off at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700627 | 11:47 |
| AlanBell | does the wireless work in Windows? | 11:48 |
| pr0ph3t | you suggested I should file it, yes I mention that in the bug report | 11:48 |
| pr0ph3t | I tried to solve it myself | 11:48 |
| pr0ph3t | but I've run out of ideas | 11:50 |
| pr0ph3t | I mean it may well be that I didn't do something right, but I think it should be seamless the mobile broadband connection just like it is for other 3g modems | 11:55 |
| pr0ph3t | I should probably check if the problem is the same in maverick right? or not? | 11:56 |
| bigcalm | Hi Peeps | 11:58 |
| Jibadeeha | just tried screenlets and once again i still cannot find a possible use for it | 12:01 |
| popey | hi bigcalm | 12:01 |
| popey | bigcalm: last weeks graze box arrived on friday then this weeks arrived yesterday | 12:01 |
| bigcalm | popey: it's a bit of a joke. Maybe I'll give RM a little longer to settle before taking drastic action | 12:02 |
| popey | i dont find it that bad | 12:04 |
| popey | understandable over xmas | 12:04 |
| bigcalm | Of course | 12:04 |
| bigcalm | Post seems to have been the only disrupted service here | 12:05 |
| pr0ph3t | do you know a nice guide to connect two devices with SSH in the same network safely? | 12:09 |
| bigcalm | Could you be a little more specific? | 12:13 |
| pr0ph3t | bigcalm, I have a nokia n97 with PuTTY and I want to connect to my laptop running ubuntu 11.04 64 bit | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | So what's wrong with running sshd on the Ubuntu box and connecting to it from the phone? | 12:21 |
| pr0ph3t | using the same wifi connection | 12:22 |
| KrimZon | the wireless router or access point might need configuring to allow two wireless devices to talk to each other | 12:22 |
| pr0ph3t | bigcalm, that it's not installed I guess, I'll try that thanks | 12:22 |
| KrimZon | if it doesn't work straight away | 12:23 |
| directhex | apt:openssh-server | 12:23 |
| bigcalm | open-ssh-server | 12:23 |
| bigcalm | -- | 12:23 |
| bigcalm | KrimZon: I would be shocked to find a wifi router that doesn't allow internal traffic by default | 12:24 |
| pr0ph3t | ok I installed it | 12:24 |
| KrimZon | bigcalm: i've had one or two that didn't, but only for wireless | 12:25 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings all | 12:26 |
| bigcalm | pr0ph3t: make sure the service is running and test it by ssh localhost | 12:26 |
| pr0ph3t | bigcalm, working | 12:27 |
| bigcalm | Good show | 12:28 |
| bigcalm | Find out the ip address of the ubuntu box with ifconfig and then try connecting to it from your phone | 12:28 |
| pr0ph3t | doing it right now | 12:28 |
| pr0ph3t | but I get access denied | 12:29 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: sudo? | 12:30 |
| pr0ph3t | trying to access the laptop from the phone | 12:32 |
| MooDoo | ah | 12:32 |
| MichealH | Hey all :D | 12:39 |
| pr0ph3t | I need a password to connect to the laptop from my phone, is it the password I use to login or something I need to setup somewhere else? | 12:47 |
| pr0ph3t | which password is it? | 12:48 |
| dutchie | login password | 12:48 |
| pr0ph3t | dutchie, do I need to create one for the new user? | 12:49 |
| pr0ph3t | for the phone username I mean | 12:49 |
| pr0ph3t | because if I use the laptop login password it doesn't connect | 12:50 |
| pr0ph3t | access denied | 12:50 |
| dutchie | you mean a separate user just for the phone to ssh to? | 12:50 |
| pr0ph3t | yes | 12:50 |
| dutchie | should be usual ubuntu username and password | 12:50 |
| dutchie | you could create a separate user, but it wouldn't be much use | 12:50 |
| pr0ph3t | so I need to change username | 12:50 |
| pr0ph3t | on the phone | 12:51 |
| dutchie | probably | 12:51 |
| pr0ph3t | yes | 12:52 |
| pr0ph3t | thanks | 12:52 |
| pr0ph3t | this is great | 12:54 |
| pr0ph3t | and can I send a command line to be executed on the laptop console? | 12:58 |
| pr0ph3t | with like > or similar | 12:58 |
| brobostigon | whats happened.peoplenot putting subjectlineswhen sending things to the mailing list. | 13:02 |
| dutchie | pr0ph3t: what do you mean "on the laptop console"? you have a perfectly good shell with ssh | 13:11 |
| Azelphur | hehe, been building my PC for a few days now :D | 13:14 |
| Azelphur | fun fun \o/ | 13:14 |
| Azelphur | I run my changes through a power supply calculator and I need an 833w psu before overclocking >.< | 13:14 |
| Azelphur | so I'm gonna fork out for a 1.2kw psu \o/ | 13:15 |
| marsilainen | need your own power station for that | 13:17 |
| marsilainen | what takes all that power?? | 13:17 |
| marsilainen | I'm trying to get away with 350W on my new desktop :) | 13:17 |
| Azelphur | marsilainen: haha | 13:20 |
| Azelphur | marsilainen: i7 950 @ 3.06ghz, 3x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, EVGA Superclocked GTX 570, 8800GT, 4 SATA2 10k rpm drives, 1 SSD, 10 USB devices | 13:21 |
| marsilainen | fair enough :) | 13:22 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 13:22 |
| Azelphur | I'm gonna pull it up on my 850w without the 8800GT | 13:22 |
| marsilainen | whereas I shall be having 1 HDD and the graphics will be on the motherboard | 13:22 |
| Azelphur | and see how fast it boots ;) | 13:22 |
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| marsilainen | do your lights dim when you turn it on? | 13:23 |
| Azelphur | hahaha | 13:23 |
| Azelphur | marsilainen: probably best to ask if my lights dim when I turn all this on http://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-rig-thread | 13:24 |
| Azelphur | ;) | 13:24 |
| marsilainen | don't think you need any lights on with that lot going | 13:25 |
| Azelphur | indeed :D | 13:25 |
| jacobw | !ping | 13:46 |
| lubotu3 | ping-pong, a fun game for all the family | 13:46 |
| brobostigon | !moo | 13:47 |
| jacobw | !fail | 13:47 |
| bigcalm | !ding | 13:48 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 13:48 |
| jacobw | Hmm, I've lost my connection to Jabber | 13:48 |
| brobostigon | jacobw: any specific server ? | 13:48 |
| jacobw | I've just got the domain field in Pidgin set to jabber.org | 13:49 |
| jacobw | I suppose jabber.org is just one jabber server though | 13:49 |
| brobostigon | cant confirm, dont use that server. | 13:49 |
| Azelphur | hmm, I've tried 2 different livecds in my new pc, both of them show the ubuntu logo, drop to busybox and says "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" | 13:50 |
| Azelphur | any ideas? | 13:50 |
| jacobw | Try a live USB? | 13:50 |
| Azelphur | if I can find where my USB drive got to xD | 13:51 |
| AlanBell | new CD drive? | 13:51 |
| Azelphur | old DVD but was working last I checked :p | 13:52 |
| pr0ph3t | can I execute commands to affect X on the server from an ssh client like putty on my phone? I.e. would be starting gedit, but on the server (my laptop) | 14:32 |
| pr0ph3t | a nice guide you think I should read? | 14:33 |
| dutchie | DISPLAY=:0 gedit | 14:33 |
| dutchie | that should work | 14:33 |
| pr0ph3t | dutchie: cannot open display | 14:34 |
| dutchie | hmm, not something i'm familiar with, i'm afraid | 14:34 |
| pr0ph3t | sorry | 14:34 |
| pr0ph3t | you were right I'm an idiot | 14:34 |
| pr0ph3t | thanks dutchie | 14:35 |
| penguin42 | as well as DISPLAY you may have to do something with Xauth, which on modern ubuntu can be messy | 14:37 |
| pr0ph3t | penguin42, it works perfectly | 14:38 |
| pr0ph3t | on ubuntu 11.04 | 14:39 |
| pr0ph3t | then it's a matter of controlling the keyboard | 14:39 |
| pr0ph3t | to edit the file :P | 14:39 |
| SilverGum | Hello I am trying to use wget command like this: "wget -r -v --level=0 -convert-links --page-requisites -domains http://tadamedia.com/MUSESITE/" But I am unable to download the images, CSS, JS or any other files except the index.html, could you please check and let me know, what I am doing wrong? | 14:43 |
| pr0ph3t | SilverGum, first thing I think -rv instead of -r -v? | 14:44 |
| SilverGum | Will that make a difference? But anyways, will try that | 14:45 |
| pr0ph3t | SilverGum, no idea, but if you give the output maybe | 14:45 |
| pr0ph3t | pastebin it, someone will have a look | 14:45 |
| SilverGum | pr0ph3t: http://pastebin.com/hAaikUdX | 14:47 |
| pr0ph3t | the output, as in the message you get from passing that command | 14:48 |
| SilverGum | http://pastebin.com/tg89dfYG | 14:50 |
| popey | no logging doesnt help | 14:51 |
| SilverGum | popey: The weird thing is that I get this command to work for another site? | 14:52 |
| popey | read the log | 14:52 |
| popey | you'll see why it fails | 14:52 |
| SilverGum | @all: I am a completely noob! | 14:52 |
| popey | its because the site owner has maintained a robots.txt | 14:53 |
| popey | which forbids what you're trying to do | 14:53 |
| SilverGum | popey: Which one are you referring? | 14:53 |
| popey | Not following http://tadamedia.com/MUSESITE/javascripts/jquery.easing.1.3.js because robots.txt forbids it. | 14:53 |
| popey | all of them | 14:53 |
| SilverGum | Can't we disregard the robotos.txt? | 14:53 |
| popey | you can set wget to ignore robots.txt, but thats rude | 14:53 |
| SilverGum | :) | 14:53 |
| popey | I'm sure you can figure it out from the man page but I'm not about to help you do that | 14:54 |
| SilverGum | Yes, I am a little too newbie, so I guess it is okay :) | 14:54 |
| SilverGum | popey: :) Will try to find that, thanks for that tip! | 14:54 |
| SilverGum | Time to get 'rude' :) | 14:54 |
| SilverGum | popey: I just read that it is a 'crime' to pose wget as a browser! | 15:01 |
| SilverGum | ? | 15:01 |
| SilverGum | I mean in certain countries of course, but don't you think it is lame, though I perfectly understand that we are being 'rude' by downloading like that! | 15:02 |
| popey | SilverGum: I have a website and yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed if someone was wgetting the whole thing, its rude | 15:21 |
| SilverGum | popey: I don't disagree about the 'rudeness', but its pretty lame to classifying that as a crime | 15:21 |
| popey | i was not aware it was a crime | 15:22 |
| SilverGum | In whatever jurisdiction you are talking about. But, ya, we are living in a paranoid world in which making an internation call could get you executed publicly ;) | 15:23 |
| SilverGum | popey: Not in US | 15:23 |
| popey | I am not in the USA | 15:23 |
| brobostigon | i would be pretty pissed off if i found a copy of my website, out there somewhere, | 15:23 |
| popey | brobostigon: its not that people take a copy to duplicate the site, more often they are just lazy and figure it's easier to grab an entire site rather than the individual files they 'need' | 15:24 |
| brobostigon | popey: yes, i agree. i can imagine. | 15:24 |
| SilverGum | Anyways, thanks everyone. wget did the job. It was pretty neat copy :) | 15:25 |
| brobostigon | http://code.google.com/p/moonblink/wiki/Tricorder :) cool, | 15:32 |
| pr0ph3t | re all | 15:47 |
| pr0ph3t | is it possible to use the keyboard on my putty client on the ssh server? the server is ubuntu and the client is my phone with putty and qwerty keyboard | 15:49 |
| pr0ph3t | so that I use the phone as a wireless keyboard | 15:50 |
| pr0ph3t | just like you set DISPLAY=:0 or something | 15:54 |
| dutchie | don't know if you can do that with ssh | 15:55 |
| dutchie | there are android apps that do it | 15:56 |
| pr0ph3t | sadly I only have symbian os | 15:56 |
| pr0ph3t | what protocol would they use? | 15:57 |
| pr0ph3t | obex? | 15:57 |
| niall | Hey guys. I've been trying all day to get my 6-port serial card to work. I've installed two different versions of the manufacturer supplied drivers, then the same drivers with a patch I found on the Ubuntu forum where someone else got it to work (With an older kernel). Ubuntu still boots with the 8250 serial support instead of using the manufacturer's module. I get /dev/ttyS[0-3] rather than ttyD[0-5] as hoped for. Also pa | 15:57 |
| niall | ssed parameter 8250.nr_uarts=6 via GRUB2 and it makes no difference. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this problem? Unfortunately 8250 seems built into the current kernel (in 10.10) rather than as a module, so hard for me to override it.. not knowing how to do it. Happy to pastebin any and all info required. Please give any advice you think might help, however remote. | 15:57 |
| dutchie | pr0ph3t: the one i've used pretends to be a bluetooth keyboard | 15:58 |
| X3N | Anyone know why the ubuntu-uk launchpad team became a moderated team last week? | 16:21 |
| czajkowski | X3N: ask Daviey ? | 16:22 |
| X3N | hmm this is new: "The team subscription policy cannot be Open Team because one or more if its super teams are not open." | 16:23 |
| gord | texas is cold :( | 16:25 |
| czajkowski | X3N: is this the team or the ML ? | 16:25 |
| czajkowski | gord: oh did you bring tea bags this time with you ? | 16:25 |
| X3N | team, it's being inherited from one of the memeber teams | 16:26 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 16:26 |
| gord | czajkowski, i didn't :( | 16:26 |
| gord | i'm smart like that | 16:27 |
| czajkowski | gord: you'd think you'd have learnt by now | 16:27 |
| * czajkowski sips on her pg Tea :) | 16:27 | |
| * MooDoo sips on his english breakfast tea :p | 16:27 | |
| * brobostigon sups onhis coffee | 16:27 | |
| czajkowski | gord: how long are you there for ? | 16:28 |
| gord | just the week, not too long | 16:29 |
| czajkowski | gord: ah not soo bad! | 16:29 |
| czajkowski | large sprint ? | 16:29 |
| gord | platform sprint | 16:29 |
| daubers | gord: Ooooh... should we expect more unity goodness in the coming couple of weeks? | 16:30 |
| czajkowski | gord: ahh so a busy one | 16:31 |
| czajkowski | daubers: ELLO! | 16:31 |
| daubers | czajkowski: o/ | 16:31 |
| gord | daubers, hopefully, holidays have slowed things down but things are picking up again | 16:31 |
| daubers | gord: \o/ I'm quite excited about unity. Once it's complete and stable it might help a few of my workflow issues :) | 16:31 |
| * AlanBell looks forward to ccsm not being crashy with unity | 16:32 | |
| gord | ccsm? works fine here | 16:33 |
| gord | i'v seen it crash when starting plugins before, but thats not a unity issue | 16:34 |
| Azelphur | hmm, I just installed Ubuntu on my new PC, It goes through the BIOS and then it just hangs at a black flashing cursor | 16:35 |
| Azelphur | it runs live ok :S | 16:37 |
| Azelphur | anyone? o.O | 16:39 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: strange.. what kind of disk controller does it have? | 16:40 |
| MartijnVdS | some on-board SATA thing? | 16:40 |
| MartijnVdS | can you see it in the bios? | 16:41 |
| MartijnVdS | on which port is it (number) | 16:41 |
| Azelphur | yes, on board sata | 16:41 |
| Azelphur | and yes I can see the HDD in the bios | 16:41 |
| Azelphur | it's on port 3. | 16:41 |
| Azelphur | correction, 4 :p | 16:41 |
| Azelphur | lol system date 2002 | 16:42 |
| Azelphur | I should probably set up the bios properly, that might help | 16:42 |
| MartijnVdS | and it's not even loading grub? | 16:42 |
| Azelphur | nope, no grub no nothing. | 16:42 |
| Azelphur | just a blinking cursor. | 16:42 |
| MartijnVdS | wow :) | 16:42 |
| Azelphur | still just sits there :( | 16:47 |
| Azelphur | it boots from liveusb | 16:52 |
| Azelphur | and all the data seems to be on the hdd | 16:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: you could try re-installing grub in the MBR | 16:52 |
| MartijnVdS | that might work | 16:52 |
| MartijnVdS | or check if the bios is EFI/UEFI, and use some EFI boot loader thing (don't know about those really) | 16:53 |
| Azelphur | it may well be UEFI, it's very new equipment | 16:53 |
| MartijnVdS | sandy bridge cpu? | 16:59 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: 10.10 ? | 17:00 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: nope, i7 950 | 17:01 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: yes | 17:01 |
| Azelphur | I'm trying a fresh install with only the SSD connected, so that way there can't be any issues with grub being on the wrong drive or other weirdness. | 17:02 |
| Azelphur | it's aliiiive | 17:05 |
| Azelphur | 2 second boot | 17:05 |
| Azelphur | woo. | 17:05 |
| Azelphur | excluding bios time | 17:06 |
| MartijnVdS | *\o/* | 17:06 |
| MartijnVdS | how many cores does that i7 have? :) | 17:06 |
| Azelphur | 4 or 8 with hyperthreading | 17:07 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 17:07 |
| Azelphur | lol just timed it | 17:13 |
| Azelphur | 2 seconds seemed a little extreme | 17:13 |
| Azelphur | 24 seconds from bios to grub, 14 seconds from grub to login | 17:13 |
| daubers | Azelphur: What was the issue in the end? | 17:15 |
| moreati | Any empathy users here: is the contact list showing yourself as an online contact? | 17:15 |
| Azelphur | daubers: I dunno, I ripped all the other drives out and installed, it probably put grub on the wrong drive and it caused issues *shrug* | 17:15 |
| daubers | Azelphur: Not had a drive in that had previously had grub on it? | 17:16 |
| MooDoo | moreati: does the contact list show yourself as an online user?? no i don't think it does this | 17:16 |
| Azelphur | yes I did have a drive that previously had grub on it | 17:16 |
| daubers | That may have been it | 17:16 |
| daubers | MBR may not have been cleared correctly on that drive | 17:16 |
| Azelphur | maybe :) | 17:16 |
| Azelphur | but yea, 14 second boot :D | 17:17 |
| Azelphur | sweet. | 17:17 |
| moreati | MooDoo: To be clearer: mine is, I'm trying to work out if this is normal | 17:17 |
| MooDoo | moreati: strange, mine has never shown, then again i've never look at options to see if it's one | 17:17 |
| marsilainen | how do I set the date format that ubuntu/gnome uses? | 17:26 |
| marsilainen | all my dates show as 9/1/2011 or whatever | 17:26 |
| marsilainen | I'd like them to show as 2011-01-09 | 17:27 |
| marsilainen | I thought that this would be in the preferences somewhere, but I can't seem to find it | 17:27 |
| moreati | marsilainen: I've just looked myself, seems eiher a surprising ommission or I missed it | 17:30 |
| moreati | marsilainen: do you want it changed everywhere, or just in the clock? if the former then http://choorucode.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/ubuntu-date-time-format-of-panel-clock/ looks promising | 17:39 |
| marsilainen | moreati: ideally I would like to change it everywhere that short format date shows up | 17:40 |
| marsilainen | moreati: so that it appears in ISO format in things like thunderbird too | 17:40 |
| marsilainen | I think that maybe the way is to change my LC_TIME environment variable | 17:40 |
| pr0ph3t | is there a command to show active ttys? | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: ls /dev/tty* /dev/pty/* ? | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: those exist.. but "active" in what way? | 17:47 |
| pr0ph3t | hi there | 17:47 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, I am running putty on my nokia connected to my ubuntu workstation with wifi | 17:48 |
| MartijnVdS | "tty's with logged-in people"? "w" or "who" | 17:48 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, and I am trying to find a way to use the remote keyboard on the server | 17:49 |
| MartijnVdS | why would you? just ssh into the machine and you can use it like you're sitting at it | 17:50 |
| czajkowski | gord: will Unity work/be usable on a mini 9 ? | 17:50 |
| MartijnVdS | you can't send keystrokes to other ttys (easily) | 17:50 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, that is what I am doing | 17:50 |
| MartijnVdS | done then | 17:50 |
| pr0ph3t | but I want to use it as the actual keyboard | 17:51 |
| pr0ph3t | so when I type something it doesn't go as a command but as a simple keystroke | 17:51 |
| MartijnVdS | that's not possible | 17:51 |
| MartijnVdS | unless it's X, but then you'd need to start a vnc server (and use a vnc client) | 17:51 |
| moreati | pr0ph3t: why do you want to do that? What are you trying to achieve? | 17:52 |
| MartijnVdS | moreati++ | 17:52 |
| pr0ph3t | moreati, to use the nokia keyboard as a wireless keyboard | 17:52 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: is it bluetooth? just connect the bluetooth.. done! | 17:52 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, it is bluetooth | 17:53 |
| pr0ph3t | but it is the phone keyboard, it's an n97 phone with a qwerty keyboard | 17:54 |
| moreati | 1) You have a Nokia gadget with a keyboard 2) You want a wireless keyboard | 17:54 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: so you set your keyboard in "discoverable" mode, then connect to it (using the bluetooth icon on your desktop) | 17:54 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 17:54 |
| MartijnVdS | it's not a bluetooth keyboard | 17:54 |
| pr0ph3t | not | 17:54 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't think there's ready-made software to do this | 17:54 |
| pr0ph3t | dutchie said there is for android | 17:54 |
| moreati | I take it you concluded 3) I shall use the nokia as a keyboard | 17:54 |
| dutchie | PRemoteDroid is the android app i have used | 17:55 |
| moreati | pr0ph3t: I would suggest 3) buy a chepo wireless keyboard, save a lot of hassle | 17:55 |
| pr0ph3t | moreati, it's just for fun I think, a challenge | 17:56 |
| pr0ph3t | I have a wireless mouse and also I have a laptop | 17:56 |
| MartijnVdS | you'll have to write/get some software to install on the nokia that uses the Nokia's bluetooth system to present itself as a bluetooth keyboard | 17:56 |
| pr0ph3t | so I don't actually need it | 17:57 |
| MartijnVdS | good luck with that :) | 17:57 |
| moreati | MartijnVdS++ | 17:57 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, so bluetooth would be easier you think | 17:57 |
| pr0ph3t | "easier" | 17:57 |
| MartijnVdS | getting a bluetooth keyboard will be easier.. doing it over ssh will be Hard | 17:58 |
| pr0ph3t | but what I thought in my rusty mind is that my nokia is acting a terminal, keyboard + monitor | 17:58 |
| MartijnVdS | (because ssh daemon doesn't know about your X session at all) | 17:58 |
| moreati | s/easier/the only possibility I can think of/ | 17:58 |
| popey | X3N: i would imagine Daviey might know? | 17:58 |
| pr0ph3t | so my keystrokes are saved into a buffer, sent to the server, the command executed and then sent back to the terminal screen | 17:59 |
| pr0ph3t | the output | 17:59 |
| popey | X3N: i would also ask in #launchpad | 18:00 |
| MartijnVdS | that's what ssh is | 18:00 |
| pr0ph3t | yes | 18:00 |
| pr0ph3t | but if I could capture the text sent to the server | 18:01 |
| MartijnVdS | you can't | 18:01 |
| MartijnVdS | well you could start a program in an ssh session | 18:01 |
| MartijnVdS | but that program won't have a way to communicate with X | 18:01 |
| MartijnVdS | you could create a way, but it'll be messy | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | a bit like "Wake up Neo....." | 18:02 |
| MartijnVdS | movies aren't real | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | yes but you can replicate that | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | with the client server idea | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | I think you should try reading about the different ways in which input/output work in X and without X | 18:03 |
| ali1234 | use uinput | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | then you'll understand it's harder than it seems | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: scary! | 18:03 |
| ali1234 | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-input@vger.kernel.org/msg00063.html | 18:04 |
| ali1234 | it's actually trivial to do this | 18:04 |
| ali1234 | http://svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/inputpipe/uinput/uinput.txt | 18:04 |
| ali1234 | http://codegrove.org/projects/python-uinput/ | 18:05 |
| MartijnVdS | that scares me more for security reasons than anything else | 18:06 |
| MartijnVdS | how does X (for example) know it's a "faked" keystroke instead of a real one | 18:06 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't | 18:07 |
| ali1234 | thats why you have to be root to use uinput | 18:07 |
| MartijnVdS | it's still scary :) | 18:09 |
| pr0ph3t | ali1234, you heard of rinputd? | 18:15 |
| pr0ph3t | !rinputd | 18:15 |
| pr0ph3t | it's not in the stable repos | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | nope | 18:16 |
| ducbian__ | Isn't this what bluemote did / does? | 18:18 |
| pr0ph3t | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteInput/rinputd | 18:20 |
| pr0ph3t | ducbian__, yes I think it is | 18:21 |
| pr0ph3t | it looks like there are a lot of those applications around already | 18:27 |
| pr0ph3t | http://tuxmobil.org/bluetooth_cell_apps.html | 18:27 |
| AlanBell | X3N: is that because https://launchpad.net/~locoteams is a moderated team? | 20:04 |
| AlanBell | that would be a superteam of ubuntu-uk | 20:05 |
| AlanBell | and if that is the case then someone has introduced a bit of a launchpad fail to fix some other situation | 20:06 |
| ipopey | Moo | 20:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Evening all | 20:09 |
| ipopey | Hey TheOpenSourcerer, you on hols? | 20:10 |
| AlanBell | hi TheOpenSourcerer, are you there? | 20:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Lol - nope. On an OpenERP training course tomorrrow. Think I'd do Belgium for a HOLIDAY? | 20:10 |
| ipopey | Heh | 20:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: yES. | 20:11 |
| AlanBell | nice hotel? | 20:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Very. | 20:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just been to the Hotel's "Grill" for dinner. | 20:11 |
| penguin42 | good chocolate? | 20:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | More steak than you can shake a very large stick at. | 20:11 |
| AlanBell | nom | 20:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | penguin42: Don't know. | 20:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: And they have d'agneau :-) | 20:12 |
| AlanBell | ooh, lovely | 20:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The drive was very easy. And Google Navigation now caches. | 20:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Do the route 1hr before you leave home. | 20:13 |
| ipopey | Blimey. You drove? | 20:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | All the maps will be in the cache. | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | No data | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just don't go too far off-piste | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ipopey: Yes. | 20:14 |
| AlanBell | cool | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 2hrs home to Eurotunnel. | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 2hrs the other side. | 20:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | About 5 in total. | 20:14 |
| ipopey | Not bad | 20:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Quicker than flying... | 20:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's door-door | 20:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And I didn't go above 90mph | 20:16 |
| ipopey | Heh, not quicker than when I used to fly out there | 20:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Not too Namur... | 20:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s\too\to | 20:16 |
| ipopey | Is is in Brussels? | 20:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://www.tanneurs.com/en/index.html | 20:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | No | 20:17 |
| ipopey | What area of Openerp is the course about? | 20:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=openerp,+tiny&sll=51.187956,-0.812557&sspn=0.006859,0.021136&ie=UTF8&hq=openerp,+tiny&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=50.640317,4.86351&spn=0.111043,0.338173&z=12 | 20:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm on the "functional" course. | 20:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: Is on the Dev's course next week. | 20:19 |
| * AlanBell is non-functional | 20:20 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | oh dear... | 20:20 |
| ipopey | Are the courses expensive? | 20:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Define "expensive"? | 20:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's 5 days. | 20:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And we got two course seats for free for joining their partner programme. | 20:22 |
| ipopey | Well, sap ones are something like 3600 for a week | 20:22 |
| ipopey | Nice | 20:22 |
| ipopey | Although my knowledge of sap course prices is dated | 20:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | These are a bit less I think. The RRP is about €2750 IIRC. | 20:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Here we go. €2500: http://openerpfunctrain27.eventbrite.com/ | 20:24 |
| ipopey | Hmm, sap website not giving details | 20:25 |
| ipopey | Interesting byo laptop | 20:26 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yeah - they give you a VM. | 20:26 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | OpenSource FTW! | 20:27 |
| Azelphur | ipopey: 14 seconds from grub to login on my new machine :D | 20:29 |
| Azelphur | with a stock 10.10 install | 20:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Am waiting to digest (slightly) 1/2tonne of Entrecote de Beouf before venturing out for a nightcap. | 20:29 |
| ipopey | Sloooow! | 20:29 |
| Azelphur | :o | 20:29 |
| ipopey | ;) | 20:29 |
| Azelphur | lol | 20:29 |
| Azelphur | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/January%202011/IMG_20110109_023737.jpg is also amusing | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | they really need to put more space between pci-e slots. | 20:30 |
| kvarley | is there a torrent for 11.04 alpha 1, not getting a great speed from the server | 20:30 |
| ipopey | Yes | 20:32 |
| ipopey | Releases.ubuntu.com | 20:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 9pm and I think dinner has just subsided enough for a walk... Laterz all. | 21:00 |
| bigcalm | web devs: TinyMCE or CKEditor or something else? | 21:24 |
| czajkowski | evening folks | 21:27 |
| dutchie | lo czajkowski | 21:29 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 21:38 |
| * AlanBell wavieys at Daviey o/ | 22:05 | |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| shauno | hamitron: you were asking the other night about support lengths for server vs desktop packages. did you find it? | 23:41 |
| ali1234 | i asked about that once and someone told me the answer | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | if you search the logs you might find it | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | i forgot what it is... but on some field in the package description it says 3Y, 5Y etc | 23:44 |
| shauno | yeah, apt-cache show | grep ^Support. it's slap-your-forehead obvious once you see it :) | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | ah here we go | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 23:45 |
| shauno | but he left before I came on that night :( | 23:45 |
| hamitron | ty guys | 23:58 |
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