=== james is now known as Guest52097 === Guest52097 is now known as JamesMc [01:32] hii all [01:35] what i can do about "dependencies" problem [01:38] depends on the problem [01:38] this is the error [01:40] http://pastebin.com/qdKAkj5Z [01:41] i try to do sudo apt-get update [01:42] but it not help me.. [01:47] what happens if you do apt-get install libqt4-svg [01:49] http://pastebin.com/p7wVVpkz [01:50] this is the error^ [01:52] do a sudo apt-get update and then try it again? [01:52] are you running with any ppas or the like? [01:53] i have tried that.. but i get the same problem.. [01:53] on 10.10/maverick? [01:55] ah - lucid? [01:55] on ubutnu 10.04 LTS [01:55] 64 bit [01:55] http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/libqt4-svg shows that there is a libqt4-svg version 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 in lucid-updates that is dependent on the 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 that it's trying to install [01:56] so i need to make update to my ubuntu? [01:57] no, the fact that it's trying to install some 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 means it should be trying them all [01:57] what version of libqt4-svg is it trying to install? [01:57] * penguin42 needs to go to bed - it's nearly 2am [01:57] 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5 [01:58] ok, it should be installing 4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 I think [01:58] right, bed [02:18] How long will I have to wait before I can use that 3G modem on Linux [08:47] AlanBell: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/09/marvell-powered-olpc-xo-1-75-only-draws-2-watts-of-power-finall/ [08:47] looks familiar :) [08:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tajPROM8wk&feature=related awesome [08:49] lies [08:50] http://youtu.be/cLgu-NR3kQg <- ubuntu powered table computer.. that's awesome :) [08:57] yeah, that is the 1.75, same case, different mobo [09:06] Aloha folks [09:10] morning czajkowski how are you on this fine sunday morning? [09:10] MooDoo: grand kinda wishing my body learnt how to sleep more than 6 hrs though [09:11] czajkowski: yeah i know that feeling well, and now i'm at work with coffee :S [09:11] MooDoo: long weekend working [09:11] czajkowski: yeah, it's my turn for working the weekend and next two weeks i'm on 3:30 - midnight :( [09:12] oucies [09:12] ouchies even [09:12] ;) [09:52] morning [09:55] On 10.10 while loading a game I get error "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5". I think 10.10 has the .6 version, is there a way I can do a symbollic link? [09:56] poor phineas :( [09:58] s/poor/timewasting lying troll/ [09:58] haha [09:58] * Laney is learning the recorder! [09:59] only 20 years too late [09:59] * popey blocks his ears [09:59] http://arta-recorder.org/ #quality [10:00] flash back to primary scholl it was compulsory we learnt it [10:01] * MooDoo has a flute, but hasn't picked it up in years [10:05] hi all, how do I check whether I am running a specific driver or not? [10:06] driver for what? [10:06] it's called asus_laptop [10:06] it's for specific asus laptops hardware [10:07] pr0ph3t: which part of it? screen? hdd? ports? [10:07] MooDoo, wifi, wwan controls [10:07] part of the driver should control the radio on off of my 3g card [10:08] basically there is a file called wwan which either contains 1 for on, or 0 for off [10:08] can't you try grepping for it in dmesg? [10:09] good mornning [10:10] MooDoo, I could if I knew how to :P [10:13] pr0ph3t: get to a prompt and type dmesg | grep replace the something with what ever you want to look for, for example intel wireless you could put ipw [10:13] other than that, not sure [10:14] MooDoo, this is not the same as pipe is it? "¦" [10:14] yes it's a pipe [10:16] MooDoo, but this "¦" isn't a pipe [10:16] my volume control appears ot have disappeared from my panel? [10:16] I see the wireless icon ; date and time and username with logout options... but where is the volume control? [10:17] pr0ph3t: that is a pipe [10:17] popey, it works different though, right? [10:18] oh, sorry [10:18] pr0ph3t: just use the one to the left of the Z key, on the backslash [depending on your keyboard] [10:18] pr0ph3t: my fault, it all looks the same to me :) [10:18] doh [10:18] no it's my fault I'm blind [10:18] thanks [10:18] :) [10:20] Does anyone know how to set the gamma from boot in maverick? I have a thinkpad with an integrated intel card. [10:20] tried creating xorg.conf, it gets processed but gamma settings are ignored [10:22] searching in Add to panel I don't see a volume icon? [10:24] I don't know what happened to my volume control but it's disappeared from my panel AND i don't seem to be able to add a new applet from AddtoPanel either? [10:25] livingdaylight: is this after a crash or does it happen when you reboot, or would a killall gnome-panel put it back when it restarts? [10:25] Volume is part of the indicator applet?? [10:25] livingdaylight: http://www.virtualhelp.me/linux/107-volume-controlicon-is-gone-ubuntu-1004 [10:25] MooDoo, gonna try killall gnome-panel... but i noticed it yesterday and rebooting today hasn't fixed it [10:26] I"ve just been told to add the indicator applet [10:26] Andy_, sounds like it (no pun intended) [10:26] livingdaylight: yeah the link i sent says install that if you've not got it installed [10:27] thanks guys... adding 'indicator' applet seems to have restsored volume controler on panel [10:27] yay o/ [10:27] :) [10:28] *scary moment! :P [10:29] livingdaylight: lol :) [10:37] ok this is the paste bin of syslog when I try to connect with my 3g modem, any ideas why it fails? http://pastebin.com/qHgFryt5 [10:38] that's just the part specific to the 3g connection actually [10:38] not the whole file [10:40] any help or suggestion would be much appreciated, I am running natty narwhal fully up to date [10:41] pr0ph3t: wouldn't have a clue i'm afraid, i've not even thought about natty yet [10:42] MooDoo, I think it manages the connection in the same way as maverick does [10:43] any ideas about the lines 12-13? [10:44] non sorry [10:45] so modem manager opens the device ttyUSB0, in an instant changes the status from disabled to enabling [10:45] 4 seconds later it changes it to eanbling to disabled [10:45] anabling* [10:46] nooo [10:46] pr0ph3t: take a look at this, see if it helps at all - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1531259 [10:46] enabling* [10:46] yes i'm just looking in google :) [10:48] MooDoo, I tried sakis3g as well [11:07] !ping [11:07] ping-pong, a fun game for all the family [11:09] really [11:11] re all [11:12] I think I found the problem [11:12] Table tennis players get very annoyed if you call it ping pong [11:12] Even more annoyed than RMS if you don't say GNU/Linux [11:12] at boot I get the message "NetworkManager[578]: WWAN now disabled by radio killswitch" [11:13] so it is a NetworkManager bug, because it activates it and then disables it for no apparent reason [11:14] I mean it happens everytime at boot, so it's not me pressing the wrong button or something [11:18] package NetworkManager doesn't exist? what's it called then? [11:22] is it network-manager? [11:23] Hi. I need Ubuntu to support my 6-port serial card. I modified /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add a boot option with some extra kernel options, "config_serial_8250_runtime_uarts=6 config_serial_nr_uarts=6" --- this did not change the listings in /dev, I still only see ttyS0 through ttyS3. Can anyone help? I have posted relevant info with appropriate omissions here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552138/ === niall is now known as hcfd [11:34] anyone familiar with joomla? I am trying to create a website using a template which I have uploaded, installed and chosen it in Extensions > Template manager but when i visit the site ip (a local one) i don't get any webpage [11:46] I filed a bug report, let's see the power of the open source community now :P [11:47] bug number? [11:47] AlanBell, bug #700627 [11:47] Launchpad bug 700627 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager switches 3G modem radio off at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700627 [11:48] does the wireless work in Windows? [11:48] you suggested I should file it, yes I mention that in the bug report [11:48] I tried to solve it myself [11:50] but I've run out of ideas [11:55] I mean it may well be that I didn't do something right, but I think it should be seamless the mobile broadband connection just like it is for other 3g modems [11:56] I should probably check if the problem is the same in maverick right? or not? [11:58] Hi Peeps [12:01] just tried screenlets and once again i still cannot find a possible use for it [12:01] hi bigcalm [12:01] bigcalm: last weeks graze box arrived on friday then this weeks arrived yesterday [12:02] popey: it's a bit of a joke. Maybe I'll give RM a little longer to settle before taking drastic action [12:04] i dont find it that bad [12:04] understandable over xmas [12:04] Of course [12:05] Post seems to have been the only disrupted service here [12:09] do you know a nice guide to connect two devices with SSH in the same network safely? [12:13] Could you be a little more specific? [12:21] bigcalm, I have a nokia n97 with PuTTY and I want to connect to my laptop running ubuntu 11.04 64 bit [12:21] So what's wrong with running sshd on the Ubuntu box and connecting to it from the phone? [12:22] using the same wifi connection [12:22] the wireless router or access point might need configuring to allow two wireless devices to talk to each other [12:22] bigcalm, that it's not installed I guess, I'll try that thanks [12:23] if it doesn't work straight away [12:23] apt:openssh-server [12:23] open-ssh-server [12:23] -- [12:24] KrimZon: I would be shocked to find a wifi router that doesn't allow internal traffic by default [12:24] ok I installed it [12:25] bigcalm: i've had one or two that didn't, but only for wireless [12:26] afternoonings all [12:26] pr0ph3t: make sure the service is running and test it by ssh localhost [12:27] bigcalm, working [12:28] Good show [12:28] Find out the ip address of the ubuntu box with ifconfig and then try connecting to it from your phone [12:28] doing it right now [12:29] but I get access denied [12:30] pr0ph3t: sudo? [12:32] trying to access the laptop from the phone [12:32] ah [12:39] Hey all :D [12:47] I need a password to connect to the laptop from my phone, is it the password I use to login or something I need to setup somewhere else? [12:48] which password is it? [12:48] login password [12:49] dutchie, do I need to create one for the new user? [12:49] for the phone username I mean [12:50] because if I use the laptop login password it doesn't connect [12:50] access denied [12:50] you mean a separate user just for the phone to ssh to? [12:50] yes [12:50] should be usual ubuntu username and password [12:50] you could create a separate user, but it wouldn't be much use [12:50] so I need to change username [12:51] on the phone [12:51] probably [12:52] yes [12:52] thanks [12:54] this is great [12:58] and can I send a command line to be executed on the laptop console? [12:58] with like > or similar [13:02] whats happened.peoplenot putting subjectlineswhen sending things to the mailing list. [13:11] pr0ph3t: what do you mean "on the laptop console"? you have a perfectly good shell with ssh [13:14] hehe, been building my PC for a few days now :D [13:14] fun fun \o/ [13:14] I run my changes through a power supply calculator and I need an 833w psu before overclocking >.< [13:15] so I'm gonna fork out for a 1.2kw psu \o/ [13:17] need your own power station for that [13:17] what takes all that power?? [13:17] I'm trying to get away with 350W on my new desktop :) [13:20] marsilainen: haha [13:21] marsilainen: i7 950 @ 3.06ghz, 3x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, EVGA Superclocked GTX 570, 8800GT, 4 SATA2 10k rpm drives, 1 SSD, 10 USB devices [13:22] fair enough :) [13:22] hehe [13:22] I'm gonna pull it up on my 850w without the 8800GT [13:22] whereas I shall be having 1 HDD and the graphics will be on the motherboard [13:22] and see how fast it boots ;) === denny- is now known as denny [13:23] do your lights dim when you turn it on? [13:23] hahaha [13:24] marsilainen: probably best to ask if my lights dim when I turn all this on http://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-rig-thread [13:24] ;) [13:25] don't think you need any lights on with that lot going [13:25] indeed :D [13:46] !ping [13:46] ping-pong, a fun game for all the family [13:47] !moo [13:47] !fail [13:48] !ding [13:48] dong [13:48] Hmm, I've lost my connection to Jabber [13:48] jacobw: any specific server ? [13:49] I've just got the domain field in Pidgin set to jabber.org [13:49] I suppose jabber.org is just one jabber server though [13:49] cant confirm, dont use that server. [13:50] hmm, I've tried 2 different livecds in my new pc, both of them show the ubuntu logo, drop to busybox and says "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" [13:50] any ideas? [13:50] Try a live USB? [13:51] if I can find where my USB drive got to xD [13:51] new CD drive? [13:52] old DVD but was working last I checked :p [14:32] can I execute commands to affect X on the server from an ssh client like putty on my phone? I.e. would be starting gedit, but on the server (my laptop) [14:33] a nice guide you think I should read? [14:33] DISPLAY=:0 gedit [14:33] that should work [14:34] dutchie: cannot open display [14:34] hmm, not something i'm familiar with, i'm afraid [14:34] sorry [14:34] you were right I'm an idiot [14:35] thanks dutchie [14:37] as well as DISPLAY you may have to do something with Xauth, which on modern ubuntu can be messy [14:38] penguin42, it works perfectly [14:39] on ubuntu 11.04 [14:39] then it's a matter of controlling the keyboard [14:39] to edit the file :P [14:43] Hello I am trying to use wget command like this: "wget -r -v --level=0 -convert-links --page-requisites -domains http://tadamedia.com/MUSESITE/" But I am unable to download the images, CSS, JS or any other files except the index.html, could you please check and let me know, what I am doing wrong? [14:44] SilverGum, first thing I think -rv instead of -r -v? [14:45] Will that make a difference? But anyways, will try that [14:45] SilverGum, no idea, but if you give the output maybe [14:45] pastebin it, someone will have a look [14:47] pr0ph3t: http://pastebin.com/hAaikUdX [14:48] the output, as in the message you get from passing that command [14:50] http://pastebin.com/tg89dfYG [14:51] no logging doesnt help [14:52] popey: The weird thing is that I get this command to work for another site? [14:52] read the log [14:52] you'll see why it fails [14:52] @all: I am a completely noob! [14:53] its because the site owner has maintained a robots.txt [14:53] which forbids what you're trying to do [14:53] popey: Which one are you referring? [14:53] Not following http://tadamedia.com/MUSESITE/javascripts/jquery.easing.1.3.js because robots.txt forbids it. [14:53] all of them [14:53] Can't we disregard the robotos.txt? [14:53] you can set wget to ignore robots.txt, but thats rude [14:53] :) [14:54] I'm sure you can figure it out from the man page but I'm not about to help you do that [14:54] Yes, I am a little too newbie, so I guess it is okay :) [14:54] popey: :) Will try to find that, thanks for that tip! [14:54] Time to get 'rude' :) [15:01] popey: I just read that it is a 'crime' to pose wget as a browser! [15:01] ? [15:02] I mean in certain countries of course, but don't you think it is lame, though I perfectly understand that we are being 'rude' by downloading like that! [15:21] SilverGum: I have a website and yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed if someone was wgetting the whole thing, its rude [15:21] popey: I don't disagree about the 'rudeness', but its pretty lame to classifying that as a crime [15:22] i was not aware it was a crime [15:23] In whatever jurisdiction you are talking about. But, ya, we are living in a paranoid world in which making an internation call could get you executed publicly ;) [15:23] popey: Not in US [15:23] I am not in the USA [15:23] i would be pretty pissed off if i found a copy of my website, out there somewhere, [15:24] brobostigon: its not that people take a copy to duplicate the site, more often they are just lazy and figure it's easier to grab an entire site rather than the individual files they 'need' [15:24] popey: yes, i agree. i can imagine. [15:25] Anyways, thanks everyone. wget did the job. It was pretty neat copy :) [15:32] http://code.google.com/p/moonblink/wiki/Tricorder :) cool, [15:47] re all [15:49] is it possible to use the keyboard on my putty client on the ssh server? the server is ubuntu and the client is my phone with putty and qwerty keyboard [15:50] so that I use the phone as a wireless keyboard [15:54] just like you set DISPLAY=:0 or something [15:55] don't know if you can do that with ssh [15:56] there are android apps that do it [15:56] sadly I only have symbian os [15:57] what protocol would they use? [15:57] obex? [15:57] Hey guys. I've been trying all day to get my 6-port serial card to work. I've installed two different versions of the manufacturer supplied drivers, then the same drivers with a patch I found on the Ubuntu forum where someone else got it to work (With an older kernel). Ubuntu still boots with the 8250 serial support instead of using the manufacturer's module. I get /dev/ttyS[0-3] rather than ttyD[0-5] as hoped for. Also pa [15:57] ssed parameter 8250.nr_uarts=6 via GRUB2 and it makes no difference. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this problem? Unfortunately 8250 seems built into the current kernel (in 10.10) rather than as a module, so hard for me to override it.. not knowing how to do it. Happy to pastebin any and all info required. Please give any advice you think might help, however remote. [15:58] pr0ph3t: the one i've used pretends to be a bluetooth keyboard [16:21] Anyone know why the ubuntu-uk launchpad team became a moderated team last week? [16:22] X3N: ask Daviey ? [16:23] hmm this is new: "The team subscription policy cannot be Open Team because one or more if its super teams are not open." [16:25] texas is cold :( [16:25] X3N: is this the team or the ML ? [16:25] gord: oh did you bring tea bags this time with you ? [16:26] team, it's being inherited from one of the memeber teams [16:26] hmmm [16:26] czajkowski, i didn't :( [16:27] i'm smart like that [16:27] gord: you'd think you'd have learnt by now [16:27] * czajkowski sips on her pg Tea :) [16:27] * MooDoo sips on his english breakfast tea :p [16:27] * brobostigon sups onhis coffee [16:28] gord: how long are you there for ? [16:29] just the week, not too long [16:29] gord: ah not soo bad! [16:29] large sprint ? [16:29] platform sprint [16:30] gord: Ooooh... should we expect more unity goodness in the coming couple of weeks? [16:31] gord: ahh so a busy one [16:31] daubers: ELLO! [16:31] czajkowski: o/ [16:31] daubers, hopefully, holidays have slowed things down but things are picking up again [16:31] gord: \o/ I'm quite excited about unity. Once it's complete and stable it might help a few of my workflow issues :) [16:32] * AlanBell looks forward to ccsm not being crashy with unity [16:33] ccsm? works fine here [16:34] i'v seen it crash when starting plugins before, but thats not a unity issue [16:35] hmm, I just installed Ubuntu on my new PC, It goes through the BIOS and then it just hangs at a black flashing cursor [16:37] it runs live ok :S [16:39] anyone? o.O [16:40] Azelphur: strange.. what kind of disk controller does it have? [16:40] some on-board SATA thing? [16:41] can you see it in the bios? [16:41] on which port is it (number) [16:41] yes, on board sata [16:41] and yes I can see the HDD in the bios [16:41] it's on port 3. [16:41] correction, 4 :p [16:42] lol system date 2002 [16:42] I should probably set up the bios properly, that might help [16:42] and it's not even loading grub? [16:42] nope, no grub no nothing. [16:42] just a blinking cursor. [16:42] wow :) [16:47] still just sits there :( [16:52] it boots from liveusb [16:52] and all the data seems to be on the hdd [16:52] Azelphur: you could try re-installing grub in the MBR [16:52] that might work [16:53] or check if the bios is EFI/UEFI, and use some EFI boot loader thing (don't know about those really) [16:53] it may well be UEFI, it's very new equipment [16:59] sandy bridge cpu? [17:00] Azelphur: 10.10 ? [17:01] MartijnVdS: nope, i7 950 [17:01] penguin42: yes [17:02] I'm trying a fresh install with only the SSD connected, so that way there can't be any issues with grub being on the wrong drive or other weirdness. [17:05] it's aliiiive [17:05] 2 second boot [17:05] woo. [17:06] excluding bios time [17:06] *\o/* [17:06] how many cores does that i7 have? :) [17:07] 4 or 8 with hyperthreading [17:07] cool [17:13] lol just timed it [17:13] 2 seconds seemed a little extreme [17:13] 24 seconds from bios to grub, 14 seconds from grub to login [17:15] Azelphur: What was the issue in the end? [17:15] Any empathy users here: is the contact list showing yourself as an online contact? [17:15] daubers: I dunno, I ripped all the other drives out and installed, it probably put grub on the wrong drive and it caused issues *shrug* [17:16] Azelphur: Not had a drive in that had previously had grub on it? [17:16] moreati: does the contact list show yourself as an online user?? no i don't think it does this [17:16] yes I did have a drive that previously had grub on it [17:16] That may have been it [17:16] MBR may not have been cleared correctly on that drive [17:16] maybe :) [17:17] but yea, 14 second boot :D [17:17] sweet. [17:17] MooDoo: To be clearer: mine is, I'm trying to work out if this is normal [17:17] moreati: strange, mine has never shown, then again i've never look at options to see if it's one [17:26] how do I set the date format that ubuntu/gnome uses? [17:26] all my dates show as 9/1/2011 or whatever [17:27] I'd like them to show as 2011-01-09 [17:27] I thought that this would be in the preferences somewhere, but I can't seem to find it [17:30] marsilainen: I've just looked myself, seems eiher a surprising ommission or I missed it [17:39] marsilainen: do you want it changed everywhere, or just in the clock? if the former then http://choorucode.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/ubuntu-date-time-format-of-panel-clock/ looks promising [17:40] moreati: ideally I would like to change it everywhere that short format date shows up [17:40] moreati: so that it appears in ISO format in things like thunderbird too [17:40] I think that maybe the way is to change my LC_TIME environment variable [17:46] is there a command to show active ttys? [17:46] pr0ph3t: ls /dev/tty* /dev/pty/* ? [17:47] pr0ph3t: those exist.. but "active" in what way? [17:47] hi there [17:48] MartijnVdS, I am running putty on my nokia connected to my ubuntu workstation with wifi [17:48] "tty's with logged-in people"? "w" or "who" [17:49] MartijnVdS, and I am trying to find a way to use the remote keyboard on the server [17:50] why would you? just ssh into the machine and you can use it like you're sitting at it [17:50] gord: will Unity work/be usable on a mini 9 ? [17:50] you can't send keystrokes to other ttys (easily) [17:50] MartijnVdS, that is what I am doing [17:50] done then [17:51] but I want to use it as the actual keyboard [17:51] so when I type something it doesn't go as a command but as a simple keystroke [17:51] that's not possible [17:51] unless it's X, but then you'd need to start a vnc server (and use a vnc client) [17:52] pr0ph3t: why do you want to do that? What are you trying to achieve? [17:52] moreati++ [17:52] moreati, to use the nokia keyboard as a wireless keyboard [17:52] pr0ph3t: is it bluetooth? just connect the bluetooth.. done! [17:53] MartijnVdS, it is bluetooth [17:54] but it is the phone keyboard, it's an n97 phone with a qwerty keyboard [17:54] 1) You have a Nokia gadget with a keyboard 2) You want a wireless keyboard [17:54] pr0ph3t: so you set your keyboard in "discoverable" mode, then connect to it (using the bluetooth icon on your desktop) [17:54] ah [17:54] it's not a bluetooth keyboard [17:54] not [17:54] I don't think there's ready-made software to do this [17:54] dutchie said there is for android [17:54] I take it you concluded 3) I shall use the nokia as a keyboard [17:55] PRemoteDroid is the android app i have used [17:55] pr0ph3t: I would suggest 3) buy a chepo wireless keyboard, save a lot of hassle [17:56] moreati, it's just for fun I think, a challenge [17:56] I have a wireless mouse and also I have a laptop [17:56] you'll have to write/get some software to install on the nokia that uses the Nokia's bluetooth system to present itself as a bluetooth keyboard [17:57] so I don't actually need it [17:57] good luck with that :) [17:57] MartijnVdS++ [17:57] MartijnVdS, so bluetooth would be easier you think [17:57] "easier" [17:58] getting a bluetooth keyboard will be easier.. doing it over ssh will be Hard [17:58] but what I thought in my rusty mind is that my nokia is acting a terminal, keyboard + monitor [17:58] (because ssh daemon doesn't know about your X session at all) [17:58] s/easier/the only possibility I can think of/ [17:58] X3N: i would imagine Daviey might know? [17:59] so my keystrokes are saved into a buffer, sent to the server, the command executed and then sent back to the terminal screen [17:59] the output [18:00] X3N: i would also ask in #launchpad [18:00] that's what ssh is [18:00] yes [18:01] but if I could capture the text sent to the server [18:01] you can't [18:01] well you could start a program in an ssh session [18:01] but that program won't have a way to communicate with X [18:02] you could create a way, but it'll be messy [18:02] a bit like "Wake up Neo....." [18:02] movies aren't real [18:02] yes but you can replicate that [18:03] with the client server idea [18:03] I think you should try reading about the different ways in which input/output work in X and without X [18:03] use uinput [18:03] then you'll understand it's harder than it seems [18:03] ali1234: scary! [18:04] http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-input@vger.kernel.org/msg00063.html [18:04] it's actually trivial to do this [18:04] http://svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/inputpipe/uinput/uinput.txt [18:05] http://codegrove.org/projects/python-uinput/ [18:06] that scares me more for security reasons than anything else [18:06] how does X (for example) know it's a "faked" keystroke instead of a real one [18:07] it doesn't [18:07] thats why you have to be root to use uinput [18:09] it's still scary :) [18:15] ali1234, you heard of rinputd? [18:15] !rinputd [18:16] it's not in the stable repos [18:16] nope [18:18] Isn't this what bluemote did / does? [18:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteInput/rinputd [18:21] ducbian__, yes I think it is [18:27] it looks like there are a lot of those applications around already [18:27] http://tuxmobil.org/bluetooth_cell_apps.html [20:04] X3N: is that because https://launchpad.net/~locoteams is a moderated team? [20:05] that would be a superteam of ubuntu-uk [20:06] and if that is the case then someone has introduced a bit of a launchpad fail to fix some other situation [20:08] Moo [20:09] Evening all [20:10] Hey TheOpenSourcerer, you on hols? [20:10] hi TheOpenSourcerer, are you there? [20:10] Lol - nope. On an OpenERP training course tomorrrow. Think I'd do Belgium for a HOLIDAY? [20:11] Heh [20:11] AlanBell: yES. [20:11] nice hotel? [20:11] Very. [20:11] Just been to the Hotel's "Grill" for dinner. [20:11] good chocolate? [20:11] More steak than you can shake a very large stick at. [20:12] nom [20:12] penguin42: Don't know. [20:12] AlanBell: And they have d'agneau :-) [20:13] ooh, lovely [20:13] The drive was very easy. And Google Navigation now caches. [20:13] Do the route 1hr before you leave home. [20:13] Blimey. You drove? [20:14] All the maps will be in the cache. [20:14] No data [20:14] Just don't go too far off-piste [20:14] ipopey: Yes. [20:14] cool [20:14] 2hrs home to Eurotunnel. [20:14] 2hrs the other side. [20:14] About 5 in total. [20:15] Not bad [20:15] Quicker than flying... [20:15] That's door-door [20:16] And I didn't go above 90mph [20:16] Heh, not quicker than when I used to fly out there [20:16] Not too Namur... [20:16] s\too\to [20:17] Is is in Brussels? [20:17] http://www.tanneurs.com/en/index.html [20:17] No [20:18] What area of Openerp is the course about? [20:18] http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=openerp,+tiny&sll=51.187956,-0.812557&sspn=0.006859,0.021136&ie=UTF8&hq=openerp,+tiny&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=50.640317,4.86351&spn=0.111043,0.338173&z=12 [20:18] I'm on the "functional" course. [20:19] AlanBell: Is on the Dev's course next week. [20:20] * AlanBell is non-functional [20:20] oh dear... [20:21] Are the courses expensive? [20:21] Define "expensive"? [20:21] It's 5 days. [20:22] And we got two course seats for free for joining their partner programme. [20:22] Well, sap ones are something like 3600 for a week [20:22] Nice [20:22] Although my knowledge of sap course prices is dated [20:23] These are a bit less I think. The RRP is about €2750 IIRC. [20:24] Here we go. €2500: http://openerpfunctrain27.eventbrite.com/ [20:25] Hmm, sap website not giving details [20:26] Interesting byo laptop [20:26] Yeah - they give you a VM. [20:27] OpenSource FTW! [20:29] ipopey: 14 seconds from grub to login on my new machine :D [20:29] with a stock 10.10 install [20:29] Am waiting to digest (slightly) 1/2tonne of Entrecote de Beouf before venturing out for a nightcap. [20:29] Sloooow! [20:29] :o [20:29] ;) [20:29] lol [20:30] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/January%202011/IMG_20110109_023737.jpg is also amusing [20:30] they really need to put more space between pci-e slots. [20:30] is there a torrent for 11.04 alpha 1, not getting a great speed from the server [20:32] Yes [20:32] Releases.ubuntu.com [21:00] 9pm and I think dinner has just subsided enough for a walk... Laterz all. [21:24] web devs: TinyMCE or CKEditor or something else? [21:27] evening folks [21:29] lo czajkowski [21:38] hi all [22:05] * AlanBell wavieys at Daviey o/ === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:41] hamitron: you were asking the other night about support lengths for server vs desktop packages. did you find it? [23:43] i asked about that once and someone told me the answer [23:43] if you search the logs you might find it [23:44] i forgot what it is... but on some field in the package description it says 3Y, 5Y etc [23:45] yeah, apt-cache show | grep ^Support. it's slap-your-forehead obvious once you see it :) [23:45] ah here we go [23:45] yeah [23:45] but he left before I came on that night :( [23:58] ty guys