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Cheri703dmcglone: as far as key words that describe matt or his business, I can come up with: trustworthy, reliable, attention to detail, passionate about lawncare, hard working00:05
Cheri703dmcglone: funny story: one time he stopped by to pick something up, husband didn't answer the door, matt noticed that our front walk was slightly overgrown, he pulled out the weedeater and trimmed the walk, then left :)00:06
Cheri703I asked him about it and he was like "I might be ocd about lawns :) )00:06
Cheri703"00:06
dmcgloneLOL Cheri70300:21
Cheri703it was pretty funny00:21
dmcglonesounds like it00:21
Cheri703yeah00:22
dmcgloneI just want to make sure he is absolutely happy with his website00:23
dmcgloneSometimes it takes a minute to get the creative juices flowing00:23
dmcgloneI can't wait to show this one to you guys, this is kick ass!00:26
Unit193dmcglone: What is your screen res?00:42
dmcgloneUnit193 at the moment I'm using 102401:06
dmcgloneI bounce back and forth with resolutions for development01:07
dmcgloneanyone good with the gimp?01:07
Unit193Was looking at the site your making (am I not supposed to?)01:07
Unit193Play with it...01:08
dmcgloneI can't seem to adjust the transparency01:08
dmcgloneyou can look. doesn't bother me01:08
dmcglonewhich one was you looking at?01:08
Unit193Tri-city01:08
Unit193for the whole layer?01:08
dmcgloneI'm working on tri-city201:09
Unit193That's what I was looking at01:09
Unit193There is a slider right above the layer list01:09
dmcgloneyeah, all I want to do is fill a box with a color then drag the transparency slider lower01:09
dmcgloneI've done it tons of times and it's not working anymore for some reason01:10
Unit193You have to be sitting on it (I bet you know that)01:10
dmcglonelol01:10
Unit193Just tried it and it works....01:11
dmcglonesee it's not working here01:11
dmcgloneWTF???01:11
Unit193close and reopen GIMP?01:11
dmcgloneI'm gonna try and reopen01:11
dmcglonestill not working01:12
dmcglonetry this: fill a box with a transparent background with color #005e00 then try and drag the Opacity down and see if it works for you01:13
dmcglonedid it work for you?01:17
dmcgloneit's not even using the fill anymore either01:18
Unit193Yeah01:18
Unit193Sorry, wasn't watching this01:19
dmcglonemy gimp is screwed up!!!01:19
Unit193Anything I can do to help? (sudo apt-get purge gimp sudo apt-get install gimp)01:20
dmcglonethats a shame01:20
dmcgloneI'll probably have to try that01:20
dmcgloneI re-installed it, still nothing. How did you do it?01:22
dmcgloneall I did was opened a new box with transparent background, chose the bucket fill, filled the box with color and then moved the opacity slider down01:23
Unit193I think that's what I did...01:24
Unit193Can I just make the image for you?01:24
Unit193VM?01:25
dmcgloneI don't have a VM installed01:25
dmcgloneand I don't know exactly how transparent I need it. It could take me quite a few tries to get it right01:26
Unit193I have a VM with remote desktop.... (the only thing is that it's slow up speed)01:27
dmcgloneAh damn, got it01:27
dmcglonehad to use the opacity slider in the "layers" box01:28
dmcglonePfffft. now it's not showing on the web page in it's opacified (LOL) state01:30
Unit193This really isn't your day...01:32
Unit193What page?01:32
dmcgloneUnfortunately no01:32
dmcgloneindex page01:32
Cheri703dmcglone: did you save it properly?01:37
dmcgloneas a gif01:37
Cheri703some things don't transfer opacity01:37
Cheri703hmm..ok01:37
dmcgloneonly png and gif can handle transparency01:38
Unit193I like png's better01:38
Cheri703k01:38
dmcgloneUnit193 IE bitches about png.s01:38
* dmcglone hates IE!!!01:38
Unit193So do I.... (checking the site in it, IE6 fails soooo bad IE7 or 8 a bit better....)01:39
dmcglonewhat site? the one I'm working on?01:40
Unit193Yeah... I'll take Opera and Chrome over IE01:41
dmcgloneyou mean over there the site looks like crap in IE 6 and 7???01:41
dmcglonelord have mercy, I tried a .png and the opacity works. funny!01:42
Unit193Looks like worse then crap in 6, better in 7 (or 8 don't know what one)01:42
Unit193Looks nice!01:43
dmcgloneHmmmm. I checked it in browserlabs in IE 6 and 7 and everything looked right01:43
dmcglonechecked it in all the browsers on Mac too and everything looked right01:44
dmcglonewhat resolution are you using?01:44
Unit1937 or 8 even picks the opacity up...01:44
Unit193102476801:44
Unit1931024/76801:44
dmcgloneOk, now I'm going to make that box I just put that image in, expand upward from the bottom01:45
dmcgloneI need to make it just a slight bit less opacific01:47
Cheri703opaque01:47
dmcgloneLOL01:47
dmcglonenow don't go messin with my southern language01:47
dmcgloneLMAO01:48
Cheri703:)01:48
dmcgloneOk well I'm not too happy using a .png if IE 6 isn't going to support it, but I'm pretty sure I got a CSS hack somewhere to force it to play along :-)01:50
dmcgloneso far what do you think?01:50
Unit193Tell me if you want a screen from any browser...01:50
Unit193Nice! but not for slow computers01:51
* Cheri703 doesn't have a link01:51
dmcgloneare you sure you aren't mistaking slow with the effects of the fade in01:51
dmcglonelet me get it Cheri70301:52
Unit193No, the fade in is nice on this computer!01:52
dmcgloneCheri703:  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city2/01:53
Unit193I'm also not saying you need to change it01:53
Cheri703it is a little slow....01:54
Cheri703but it looks good!01:54
dmcglonenow once it finishes fading in, I want the transparent green to grow from the bottom up and it will say something like "high expectation"01:54
Cheri703the top bar is BIG for a netbook screen, but still, probably not the usual person who'll be using it01:54
dmcglonethen he background will change and the new quote will say something else01:55
dmcgloneCheri703: Matthew wanted that :-(01:55
Cheri703I will discuss it with him ;)01:56
dmcgloneLOL01:56
dmcgloneit's quite big over here also01:56
dmcgloneI had it smaller when I first started, and he e-mailed me and said "make that thing bigger"!!!! LOL01:57
Cheri703heh, I'll talk to him01:57
dmcgloneThis one I'm working on here, is just my own work. I thought I would give him a couple variations to choose from01:58
dmcgloneif you back up in that URL and go to tri-city1 you will see the original01:58
Cheri703nope, 40401:59
dmcglone  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city1/01:59
Unit193Cheri703: no caps01:59
dmcgloneHmmmm02:00
Cheri703nope, 40402:00
dmcglonehang on02:00
Unit193http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City1/02:00
dmcglone  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City2/02:00
dmcglonesorry02:00
dmcgloneoops02:00
dmcglone  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city1/02:00
dmcglonedamn02:00
dmcglonedamn02:00
Unit193I'll stop....02:00
dmcglone  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City1/02:01
dmcgloneyou were correct in the first place Unit1902:01
dmcgloneLOL02:01
Cheri703:)02:01
dmcgloneyou didn't need to stop, I kept screwing that up... LMAO02:01
Unit193You could have both and put a link for slow connections/computers... or not02:02
dmcgloneCheri703: go to the gallery and check out how the images work when clicked on02:02
dmcglonein this day and age who has dial up?02:02
dmcgloneLOL02:02
Unit193My cousins do (but they are in Indiana and in the middle of nothing)02:03
dmcglonebut you also got to remember, it will speed up when I put it on my servers02:04
dmcglonemy computer here isn't built for this02:04
dmcgloneIt's fast over here, but thats because I'm working directly on my server02:05
Unit193BTW your htaccess file isn't hidden (.htaccess not htaccess)02:05
Cheri703that's cool02:05
* Cheri703 has borrowed that trailer :)02:05
dmcgloneI don't want that hidden, it's not mine, it's for any website I may have to use it with02:05
dmcgloneCheri703: check this out http://buddy.dyndns.biz/Misc/cheri/Cheri's_Bro02:08
dmcglonelol02:09
Cheri703nice02:09
Cheri703can I ask you to maybe take it off of your webserver? just til I confirm with my bro if it's ok? since he works for the gov't and all, just want to confirm with him...02:10
dmcgloneall the code I've ever written is here free for all :-)02:10
dmcgloneOk02:10
dmcglonegot it02:11
dmcglone:-)02:11
Cheri703thanks, sorry :/02:12
dmcgloneNo problem. I was saving it in case you guys may decide to put it on the web02:12
dmcgloneUnit193 you having a field day over here aren't ya :-)02:13
Unit193I'll stop playing on your server :D02:14
dmcgloneyour fine02:14
dmcglonethats what it's there for02:14
Unit193But yeah, field day :)02:14
dmcgloneI'm just saying you like it, and thats all good02:14
dmcglonesure why not02:14
dmcglonetake the code if you like :-)02:15
Cheri703yeah, it looks good, I appreciate it :)02:15
dmcgloneCheri703: if you were matthew which one would you choose?02:15
Cheri703not sure, I'll talk to him about that bar though02:16
dmcgloneLOL02:17
dmcgloneyour gonna get me fired02:17
dmcgloneLMAO02:17
dmcglonehere's my challenge, I know how to make things grow from the top down, but never done it from the bottom up02:19
dmcgloneOh boy02:19
Cheri703?02:21
dmcgloneUnit193 check that out02:26
dmcglonebut I need to reverse it02:27
Unit193It droped off the screen02:28
Unit193Nice! (my FF is getting slow - too many tabs)02:28
dmcgloneyeah, but I want it to slide onto the screen02:30
dmcglonewell check that out :-)02:45
Unit193Sorry about your access log :002:46
dmcglonelol02:46
Unit193Fade-in is good02:47
Unit193either comp can't take it too well, or it tkaes a bit to fully come in02:47
dmcgloneNow fade it out and back in with a different message02:47
dmcgloneI may have to adjust the timing a little better02:48
Unit193It may be on my end02:48
dmcgloneit's java. I expect it to be slow.. LOL02:48
Unit193That just about made my day....02:49
Unit193watching it in IE6....02:50
dmcglonewhats it do?02:55
Unit193The grass pic is behind the "High Expectations02:56
Unit193for one and it just looks kinda goofy (in part it's also convering up the logo)02:57
dmcglonescreenshots?03:04
Unit193You changed it, but sure03:09
Unit193http://img403.imageshack.us/i/capture1ab.png/03:11
Unit193http://img37.imageshack.us/i/capture2du.png/03:11
Unit193http://img37.imageshack.us/i/capture3aj.png/03:11
Unit193Funny looking?03:18
* Cheri703 has a horrible headache, and has for a few hours :(03:18
dmcgloneYeah it is03:19
dmcglonethanks for the screenies, I can fix that with a couple hacks03:19
dmcglonedid the height problem go away?03:21
Unit193Your really going to cater to IE6?03:21
dmcglonejust a little03:21
dmcgloneit's not going to be a priority though03:21
Unit193You making me use IE6.... what did I ever do to you!?!? :D03:22
dmcglonelol03:22
dmcgloneI just made a quick change just to see what would happen03:22
Unit193it's better (too wide)03:22
dmcgloneit must be going too far down the page right?03:23
Unit193and there is no transparency03:23
Unit193Too far down the page?03:24
dmcglonethe box with the yellow border is too high is what I was asking03:25
BiosElementOh for gods sake03:26
BiosElementNo one buy PCmag. >.>03:26
Unit193dmcglone: Same as in FF03:26
BiosElementThey just posted yet more FUD about the GPL, who knew they can't read.03:26
Unit193BiosElement: Why is that?03:26
BiosElementhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375476,00.asp03:26
BiosElementThey fail to explain the GPL's requirements and thus make it look like it's some new thing, it's pathetic writing as typical and just hurts F/OSS in general.03:27
dmcgloneApple is violating the GPL03:30
BiosElementdmcglone: I know.03:30
BiosElementdmcglone: Though actually, less apple, more whoever uploaded it. Not sure it was apple was it?03:30
dmcgloneI'm not sure either03:31
BiosElementApplidium uploaded it I think, whoever that may be heh03:31
dmcgloneThe whole gist of it is apple uses DRM and that restricts access to VLC03:31
BiosElementSO yeah, apple probably didn't actually violate it since I'm sure when you upload apps they pass all that along the line to the user.03:32
BiosElement*erm, uploader03:32
dmcgloneIt had to be an apple employee that uploaded it03:32
BiosElementIt did? I don't know how the app store works. They may approve them, but I imagine the legal implications fall to the uploader since apple could hide behind the DMCA03:33
dmcglonethe only people that can do uploads are the employees03:33
BiosElementIt's not approval based like the iPhone store thingy?03:34
dmcglonepeople can submit their apps, but they do have to be approved by apple03:34
BiosElementEh, they can still hide behind the DMCA03:34
BiosElementMoot point if it's approved, they still pass the risk on.03:34
dmcglonenot necessarily03:35
BiosElementBy submitting an app, I'm sure you give a legal agreement that you're at fault for whatever's wrong with it etc.03:35
dmcglonethe employee that uploaded it, should read the uploaders license agreement and make sure it's an authentic app from the uploader and not stolen03:36
BiosElementIt was03:36
BiosElementThey just didn't read the license03:36
BiosElementAgain, moot point really. I find it ironic that they wrap free apps in DRM myself03:37
dmcgloneI agree03:37
BiosElementI love the apple defenders ;)03:37
BiosElementApparently apple wrote webkit from scratch03:37
BiosElementAnd outta the goodness of their hearts, released it03:37
* BiosElement wonders where they forgot about khtml >.>03:38
dmcgloneI love apple defenders too or we wouldn't have learned about the laws of gravity03:38
dmcglone;-)03:38
dmcgloneNewton was 100% right, this is an example of "what goes up, must come down"03:39
dmcgloneLOL03:39
BiosElementTrue hah03:39
BiosElementALso love the "GPL IS CLOSED SOURCE!" rant, been a while since I saw that one03:40
dmcgloneThat rant comes from people with pea brains03:41
Unit193Mac Users: 10% of the market share, 90% of the crazy03:41
dmcgloneI'm about to go upstairs and get on the laptop.03:42
dmcgloneI've put my work in for the day :-)03:42
dmcgloneI'll be back in a few03:43
* canthus13 laughs at the thought of having to go to a particular room to use a laptop.03:47
* dmcglone1 doesn't need to go to a particular room to use the laptop03:52
dmcglone1lol03:52
dmcglone1I got my laptop from the living room and brought it upstairs to my room so I can lay in bed03:53
dmcglone1Ok I'm done for the night04:07
dmcglone1Time for me to hit the hay04:08
dmcglone1night everyone04:08
gilchgood morning. anyone home?13:32
Unit193Nope13:46
gilchwondering if anyone uses Empathy for IRC14:02
Unit193I don't know if anyone does14:11
o--d-apaultag: I duz haz problem, will you assist me?16:33
o--d-along story short, I moved important files from my SD card to ubuntu, I fucked my xorg.conf, and now I can't recover them with the live CD16:34
deejoeo--d-a: which live CD, what video hardware?  is the live CD for the same version as the OS that's installed?16:43
o--d-adeejoe: 7.04, Intel integrated, both liveCD and installed OS are the same16:46
o--d-adeejoe: it won't give me permission to move the files16:57
deejoe"it" being the live CD16:58
deejoewhat the names of the target and source volumes you're trying to copy files from/to?16:59
deejoeyou're doing this in nautilus (the GUI) or from a command line?16:59
o--d-anautilus17:00
o--d-a"/media/disk/home/user/Desktop/126_0108"17:00
o--d-aThe entire desktop in general17:01
deejoeI'm a little at sea with regard to nautilus, no pun intended.17:25
deejoeI'm sort of a crusty cli guy.17:26
deejoeare we sure /media/disk/home is the Desktop for the account that you want, on your internal hard drive?17:26
o--d-ayeah17:30
o--d-adeejoe: I want to copy the desktop to an external hard drive17:30
o--d-abut I do not have permission to do so17:31
Unit193sudo?17:33
o--d-aUnit193: I don't remember how to use terminal to manage files17:40
o--d-athat's exactly what I was thinking too though17:40
Unit193gksudo nautilus will open the file browser17:40
o--d-aUnit193: it worked, kudos to you good sir.17:44
Unit193Glad I could help!17:45
o--d-aNow if only I could find my 10.04 disk....17:47
Unit193Can't help there ;)17:48
o--d-aWhat if I said I might have to install Windows XP? ;)17:48
* o--d-a knows how to get under a ubuntonian's skin17:49
o--d-aanyway, thanks for the help.17:50
Unit193No problem!17:50
Unit193If it works for you.... try Vista, you'll want to kill yourself in no time!17:51
o--d-aUnit193: I liked vista.....certainly not on a laptop though17:52
o--d-agod, I remember the first time I started up my HP, literally took 10 minutes to become responsive17:53
Unit193Anyone know in LibreOffice or OpenOffice how to change the "Slide Pane" to show text not previews of the slides?20:18

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