[00:05] <Cheri703> dmcglone: as far as key words that describe matt or his business, I can come up with: trustworthy, reliable, attention to detail, passionate about lawncare, hard working
[00:06] <Cheri703> dmcglone: funny story: one time he stopped by to pick something up, husband didn't answer the door, matt noticed that our front walk was slightly overgrown, he pulled out the weedeater and trimmed the walk, then left :)
[00:06] <Cheri703> I asked him about it and he was like "I might be ocd about lawns :) )
[00:06] <Cheri703> "
[00:21] <dmcglone> LOL Cheri703
[00:21] <Cheri703> it was pretty funny
[00:21] <dmcglone> sounds like it
[00:22] <Cheri703> yeah
[00:23] <dmcglone> I just want to make sure he is absolutely happy with his website
[00:23] <dmcglone> Sometimes it takes a minute to get the creative juices flowing
[00:26] <dmcglone> I can't wait to show this one to you guys, this is kick ass!
[00:42] <Unit193> dmcglone: What is your screen res?
[01:06] <dmcglone> Unit193 at the moment I'm using 1024
[01:07] <dmcglone> I bounce back and forth with resolutions for development
[01:07] <dmcglone> anyone good with the gimp?
[01:07] <Unit193> Was looking at the site your making (am I not supposed to?)
[01:08] <Unit193> Play with it...
[01:08] <dmcglone> I can't seem to adjust the transparency
[01:08] <dmcglone> you can look. doesn't bother me
[01:08] <dmcglone> which one was you looking at?
[01:08] <Unit193> Tri-city
[01:08] <Unit193> for the whole layer?
[01:09] <dmcglone> I'm working on tri-city2
[01:09] <Unit193> That's what I was looking at
[01:09] <Unit193> There is a slider right above the layer list
[01:09] <dmcglone> yeah, all I want to do is fill a box with a color then drag the transparency slider lower
[01:10] <dmcglone> I've done it tons of times and it's not working anymore for some reason
[01:10] <Unit193> You have to be sitting on it (I bet you know that)
[01:10] <dmcglone> lol
[01:11] <Unit193> Just tried it and it works....
[01:11] <dmcglone> see it's not working here
[01:11] <dmcglone> WTF???
[01:11] <Unit193> close and reopen GIMP?
[01:11] <dmcglone> I'm gonna try and reopen
[01:12] <dmcglone> still not working
[01:13] <dmcglone> try this: fill a box with a transparent background with color #005e00 then try and drag the Opacity down and see if it works for you
[01:17] <dmcglone> did it work for you?
[01:18] <dmcglone> it's not even using the fill anymore either
[01:18] <Unit193> Yeah
[01:19] <Unit193> Sorry, wasn't watching this
[01:19] <dmcglone> my gimp is screwed up!!!
[01:20] <Unit193> Anything I can do to help? (sudo apt-get purge gimp sudo apt-get install gimp)
[01:20] <dmcglone> thats a shame
[01:20] <dmcglone> I'll probably have to try that
[01:22] <dmcglone> I re-installed it, still nothing. How did you do it?
[01:23] <dmcglone> all I did was opened a new box with transparent background, chose the bucket fill, filled the box with color and then moved the opacity slider down
[01:24] <Unit193> I think that's what I did...
[01:24] <Unit193> Can I just make the image for you?
[01:25] <Unit193> VM?
[01:25] <dmcglone> I don't have a VM installed
[01:26] <dmcglone> and I don't know exactly how transparent I need it. It could take me quite a few tries to get it right
[01:27] <Unit193> I have a VM with remote desktop.... (the only thing is that it's slow up speed)
[01:27] <dmcglone> Ah damn, got it
[01:28] <dmcglone> had to use the opacity slider in the "layers" box
[01:30] <dmcglone> Pfffft. now it's not showing on the web page in it's opacified (LOL) state
[01:32] <Unit193> This really isn't your day...
[01:32] <Unit193> What page?
[01:32] <dmcglone> Unfortunately no
[01:32] <dmcglone> index page
[01:37] <Cheri703> dmcglone: did you save it properly?
[01:37] <dmcglone> as a gif
[01:37] <Cheri703> some things don't transfer opacity
[01:37] <Cheri703> hmm..ok
[01:38] <dmcglone> only png and gif can handle transparency
[01:38] <Unit193> I like png's better
[01:38] <Cheri703> k
[01:38] <dmcglone> Unit193 IE bitches about png.s
[01:38]  * dmcglone hates IE!!!
[01:39] <Unit193> So do I.... (checking the site in it, IE6 fails soooo bad IE7 or 8 a bit better....)
[01:40] <dmcglone> what site? the one I'm working on?
[01:41] <Unit193> Yeah... I'll take Opera and Chrome over IE
[01:41] <dmcglone> you mean over there the site looks like crap in IE 6 and 7???
[01:42] <dmcglone> lord have mercy, I tried a .png and the opacity works. funny!
[01:42] <Unit193> Looks like worse then crap in 6, better in 7 (or 8 don't know what one)
[01:43] <Unit193> Looks nice!
[01:43] <dmcglone> Hmmmm. I checked it in browserlabs in IE 6 and 7 and everything looked right
[01:44] <dmcglone> checked it in all the browsers on Mac too and everything looked right
[01:44] <dmcglone> what resolution are you using?
[01:44] <Unit193> 7 or 8 even picks the opacity up...
[01:44] <Unit193> 1024768
[01:44] <Unit193> 1024/768
[01:45] <dmcglone> Ok, now I'm going to make that box I just put that image in, expand upward from the bottom
[01:47] <dmcglone> I need to make it just a slight bit less opacific
[01:47] <Cheri703> opaque
[01:47] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:47] <dmcglone> now don't go messin with my southern language
[01:48] <dmcglone> LMAO
[01:48] <Cheri703> :)
[01:50] <dmcglone> Ok well I'm not too happy using a .png if IE 6 isn't going to support it, but I'm pretty sure I got a CSS hack somewhere to force it to play along :-)
[01:50] <dmcglone> so far what do you think?
[01:50] <Unit193> Tell me if you want a screen from any browser...
[01:51] <Unit193> Nice! but not for slow computers
[01:51]  * Cheri703 doesn't have a link
[01:51] <dmcglone> are you sure you aren't mistaking slow with the effects of the fade in
[01:52] <dmcglone> let me get it Cheri703
[01:52] <Unit193> No, the fade in is nice on this computer!
[01:53] <dmcglone> Cheri703:  http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city2/
[01:53] <Unit193> I'm also not saying you need to change it
[01:54] <Cheri703> it is a little slow....
[01:54] <Cheri703> but it looks good!
[01:54] <dmcglone> now once it finishes fading in, I want the transparent green to grow from the bottom up and it will say something like "high expectation"
[01:54] <Cheri703> the top bar is BIG for a netbook screen, but still, probably not the usual person who'll be using it
[01:55] <dmcglone> then he background will change and the new quote will say something else
[01:55] <dmcglone> Cheri703: Matthew wanted that :-(
[01:56] <Cheri703> I will discuss it with him ;)
[01:56] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:56] <dmcglone> it's quite big over here also
[01:57] <dmcglone> I had it smaller when I first started, and he e-mailed me and said "make that thing bigger"!!!! LOL
[01:57] <Cheri703> heh, I'll talk to him
[01:58] <dmcglone> This one I'm working on here, is just my own work. I thought I would give him a couple variations to choose from
[01:58] <dmcglone> if you back up in that URL and go to tri-city1 you will see the original
[01:59] <Cheri703> nope, 404
[01:59] <dmcglone>   http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city1/
[01:59] <Unit193> Cheri703: no caps
[02:00] <dmcglone> Hmmmm
[02:00] <Cheri703> nope, 404
[02:00] <dmcglone> hang on
[02:00] <Unit193> http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City1/
[02:00] <dmcglone>   http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City2/
[02:00] <dmcglone> sorry
[02:00] <dmcglone> oops
[02:00] <dmcglone>   http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/tri-city1/
[02:00] <dmcglone> damn
[02:00] <dmcglone> damn
[02:00] <Unit193> I'll stop....
[02:01] <dmcglone>   http://buddy.dyndns.biz/tri-city/Tri-City1/
[02:01] <dmcglone> you were correct in the first place Unit19
[02:01] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:01] <Cheri703> :)
[02:01] <dmcglone> you didn't need to stop, I kept screwing that up... LMAO
[02:02] <Unit193> You could have both and put a link for slow connections/computers... or not
[02:02] <dmcglone> Cheri703: go to the gallery and check out how the images work when clicked on
[02:02] <dmcglone> in this day and age who has dial up?
[02:02] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:03] <Unit193> My cousins do (but they are in Indiana and in the middle of nothing)
[02:04] <dmcglone> but you also got to remember, it will speed up when I put it on my servers
[02:04] <dmcglone> my computer here isn't built for this
[02:05] <dmcglone> It's fast over here, but thats because I'm working directly on my server
[02:05] <Unit193> BTW your htaccess file isn't hidden (.htaccess not htaccess)
[02:05] <Cheri703> that's cool
[02:05]  * Cheri703 has borrowed that trailer :)
[02:05] <dmcglone> I don't want that hidden, it's not mine, it's for any website I may have to use it with
[02:08] <dmcglone> Cheri703: check this out http://buddy.dyndns.biz/Misc/cheri/Cheri's_Bro
[02:09] <dmcglone> lol
[02:09] <Cheri703> nice
[02:10] <Cheri703> can I ask you to maybe take it off of your webserver? just til I confirm with my bro if it's ok? since he works for the gov't and all, just want to confirm with him...
[02:10] <dmcglone> all the code I've ever written is here free for all :-)
[02:10] <dmcglone> Ok
[02:11] <dmcglone> got it
[02:11] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:12] <Cheri703> thanks, sorry :/
[02:12] <dmcglone> No problem. I was saving it in case you guys may decide to put it on the web
[02:13] <dmcglone> Unit193 you having a field day over here aren't ya :-)
[02:14] <Unit193> I'll stop playing on your server :D
[02:14] <dmcglone> your fine
[02:14] <dmcglone> thats what it's there for
[02:14] <Unit193> But yeah, field day :)
[02:14] <dmcglone> I'm just saying you like it, and thats all good
[02:14] <dmcglone> sure why not
[02:15] <dmcglone> take the code if you like :-)
[02:15] <Cheri703> yeah, it looks good, I appreciate it :)
[02:15] <dmcglone> Cheri703: if you were matthew which one would you choose?
[02:16] <Cheri703> not sure, I'll talk to him about that bar though
[02:17] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:17] <dmcglone> your gonna get me fired
[02:17] <dmcglone> LMAO
[02:19] <dmcglone> here's my challenge, I know how to make things grow from the top down, but never done it from the bottom up
[02:19] <dmcglone> Oh boy
[02:21] <Cheri703> ?
[02:26] <dmcglone> Unit193 check that out
[02:27] <dmcglone> but I need to reverse it
[02:28] <Unit193> It droped off the screen
[02:28] <Unit193> Nice! (my FF is getting slow - too many tabs)
[02:30] <dmcglone> yeah, but I want it to slide onto the screen
[02:45] <dmcglone> well check that out :-)
[02:46] <Unit193> Sorry about your access log :0
[02:46] <dmcglone> lol
[02:47] <Unit193> Fade-in is good
[02:47] <Unit193> either comp can't take it too well, or it tkaes a bit to fully come in
[02:47] <dmcglone> Now fade it out and back in with a different message
[02:48] <dmcglone> I may have to adjust the timing a little better
[02:48] <Unit193> It may be on my end
[02:48] <dmcglone> it's java. I expect it to be slow.. LOL
[02:49] <Unit193> That just about made my day....
[02:50] <Unit193> watching it in IE6....
[02:55] <dmcglone> whats it do?
[02:56] <Unit193> The grass pic is behind the "High Expectations
[02:57] <Unit193> for one and it just looks kinda goofy (in part it's also convering up the logo)
[03:04] <dmcglone> screenshots?
[03:09] <Unit193> You changed it, but sure
[03:11] <Unit193> http://img403.imageshack.us/i/capture1ab.png/
[03:11] <Unit193> http://img37.imageshack.us/i/capture2du.png/
[03:11] <Unit193> http://img37.imageshack.us/i/capture3aj.png/
[03:18] <Unit193> Funny looking?
[03:18]  * Cheri703 has a horrible headache, and has for a few hours :(
[03:19] <dmcglone> Yeah it is
[03:19] <dmcglone> thanks for the screenies, I can fix that with a couple hacks
[03:21] <dmcglone> did the height problem go away?
[03:21] <Unit193> Your really going to cater to IE6?
[03:21] <dmcglone> just a little
[03:21] <dmcglone> it's not going to be a priority though
[03:22] <Unit193> You making me use IE6.... what did I ever do to you!?!? :D
[03:22] <dmcglone> lol
[03:22] <dmcglone> I just made a quick change just to see what would happen
[03:22] <Unit193> it's better (too wide)
[03:23] <dmcglone> it must be going too far down the page right?
[03:23] <Unit193> and there is no transparency
[03:24] <Unit193> Too far down the page?
[03:25] <dmcglone> the box with the yellow border is too high is what I was asking
[03:26] <BiosElement> Oh for gods sake
[03:26] <BiosElement> No one buy PCmag. >.>
[03:26] <Unit193> dmcglone: Same as in FF
[03:26] <BiosElement> They just posted yet more FUD about the GPL, who knew they can't read.
[03:26] <Unit193> BiosElement: Why is that?
[03:26] <BiosElement> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375476,00.asp
[03:27] <BiosElement> They fail to explain the GPL's requirements and thus make it look like it's some new thing, it's pathetic writing as typical and just hurts F/OSS in general.
[03:30] <dmcglone> Apple is violating the GPL
[03:30] <BiosElement> dmcglone: I know.
[03:30] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Though actually, less apple, more whoever uploaded it. Not sure it was apple was it?
[03:31] <dmcglone> I'm not sure either
[03:31] <BiosElement> Applidium uploaded it I think, whoever that may be heh
[03:31] <dmcglone> The whole gist of it is apple uses DRM and that restricts access to VLC
[03:32] <BiosElement> SO yeah, apple probably didn't actually violate it since I'm sure when you upload apps they pass all that along the line to the user.
[03:32] <BiosElement> *erm, uploader
[03:32] <dmcglone> It had to be an apple employee that uploaded it
[03:33] <BiosElement> It did? I don't know how the app store works. They may approve them, but I imagine the legal implications fall to the uploader since apple could hide behind the DMCA
[03:33] <dmcglone> the only people that can do uploads are the employees
[03:34] <BiosElement> It's not approval based like the iPhone store thingy?
[03:34] <dmcglone> people can submit their apps, but they do have to be approved by apple
[03:34] <BiosElement> Eh, they can still hide behind the DMCA
[03:34] <BiosElement> Moot point if it's approved, they still pass the risk on.
[03:35] <dmcglone> not necessarily
[03:35] <BiosElement> By submitting an app, I'm sure you give a legal agreement that you're at fault for whatever's wrong with it etc.
[03:36] <dmcglone> the employee that uploaded it, should read the uploaders license agreement and make sure it's an authentic app from the uploader and not stolen
[03:36] <BiosElement> It was
[03:36] <BiosElement> They just didn't read the license
[03:37] <BiosElement> Again, moot point really. I find it ironic that they wrap free apps in DRM myself
[03:37] <dmcglone> I agree
[03:37] <BiosElement> I love the apple defenders ;)
[03:37] <BiosElement> Apparently apple wrote webkit from scratch
[03:37] <BiosElement> And outta the goodness of their hearts, released it
[03:38]  * BiosElement wonders where they forgot about khtml >.>
[03:38] <dmcglone> I love apple defenders too or we wouldn't have learned about the laws of gravity
[03:38] <dmcglone> ;-)
[03:39] <dmcglone> Newton was 100% right, this is an example of "what goes up, must come down"
[03:39] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:39] <BiosElement> True hah
[03:40] <BiosElement> ALso love the "GPL IS CLOSED SOURCE!" rant, been a while since I saw that one
[03:41] <dmcglone> That rant comes from people with pea brains
[03:41] <Unit193> Mac Users: 10% of the market share, 90% of the crazy
[03:42] <dmcglone> I'm about to go upstairs and get on the laptop.
[03:42] <dmcglone> I've put my work in for the day :-)
[03:43] <dmcglone> I'll be back in a few
[03:47]  * canthus13 laughs at the thought of having to go to a particular room to use a laptop.
[03:52]  * dmcglone1 doesn't need to go to a particular room to use the laptop
[03:52] <dmcglone1> lol
[03:53] <dmcglone1> I got my laptop from the living room and brought it upstairs to my room so I can lay in bed
[04:07] <dmcglone1> Ok I'm done for the night
[04:08] <dmcglone1> Time for me to hit the hay
[04:08] <dmcglone1> night everyone
[13:32] <gilch> good morning. anyone home?
[13:46] <Unit193> Nope
[14:02] <gilch> wondering if anyone uses Empathy for IRC
[14:11] <Unit193> I don't know if anyone does
[16:33] <o--d-a> paultag: I duz haz problem, will you assist me?
[16:34] <o--d-a> long story short, I moved important files from my SD card to ubuntu, I fucked my xorg.conf, and now I can't recover them with the live CD
[16:43] <deejoe> o--d-a: which live CD, what video hardware?  is the live CD for the same version as the OS that's installed?
[16:46] <o--d-a> deejoe: 7.04, Intel integrated, both liveCD and installed OS are the same
[16:57] <o--d-a> deejoe: it won't give me permission to move the files
[16:58] <deejoe> "it" being the live CD
[16:59] <deejoe> what the names of the target and source volumes you're trying to copy files from/to?
[16:59] <deejoe> you're doing this in nautilus (the GUI) or from a command line?
[17:00] <o--d-a> nautilus
[17:00] <o--d-a> "/media/disk/home/user/Desktop/126_0108"
[17:01] <o--d-a> The entire desktop in general
[17:25] <deejoe> I'm a little at sea with regard to nautilus, no pun intended.
[17:26] <deejoe> I'm sort of a crusty cli guy.
[17:26] <deejoe> are we sure /media/disk/home is the Desktop for the account that you want, on your internal hard drive?
[17:30] <o--d-a> yeah
[17:30] <o--d-a> deejoe: I want to copy the desktop to an external hard drive
[17:31] <o--d-a> but I do not have permission to do so
[17:33] <Unit193> sudo?
[17:40] <o--d-a> Unit193: I don't remember how to use terminal to manage files
[17:40] <o--d-a> that's exactly what I was thinking too though
[17:40] <Unit193> gksudo nautilus will open the file browser
[17:44] <o--d-a> Unit193: it worked, kudos to you good sir.
[17:45] <Unit193> Glad I could help!
[17:47] <o--d-a> Now if only I could find my 10.04 disk....
[17:48] <Unit193> Can't help there ;)
[17:48] <o--d-a> What if I said I might have to install Windows XP? ;)
[17:49]  * o--d-a knows how to get under a ubuntonian's skin
[17:50] <o--d-a> anyway, thanks for the help.
[17:50] <Unit193> No problem!
[17:51] <Unit193> If it works for you.... try Vista, you'll want to kill yourself in no time!
[17:52] <o--d-a> Unit193: I liked vista.....certainly not on a laptop though
[17:53] <o--d-a> god, I remember the first time I started up my HP, literally took 10 minutes to become responsive
[20:18] <Unit193> Anyone know in LibreOffice or OpenOffice how to change the "Slide Pane" to show text not previews of the slides?