| Monona | How do I temporarily end package manager updates during audio sessions? | 09:07 |
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| ailo | Monona: You should disable any automatic updates. Have you done this? | 09:13 |
| Monona | ailo: I'm on Hardy for my desktop, just installed Lucid on my laptop. | 09:16 |
| Monona | I don't know how to do that for either. | 09:19 |
| ailo | Cant say for sure what steps are required :(, but at least try unchecking everything dealing with automatic updates in "Update Manager -> Settings. | 09:19 |
| ailo | Hopefully this should be enough. | 09:19 |
| Monona | Easy enough to do. :) | 09:20 |
| Monona | The realtime kernel in Lucid isn't working well with jack. Is there some known problem, or do I just need to troubleshoot? | 09:22 |
| ailo | Monona: What seems to be your problem? | 09:22 |
| ailo | I'm not on Lucid Myself, since 1/2 year, so I don't have the fresh experience. Did you try aboganis ppa https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid? | 09:24 |
| ailo | I mean: https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid | 09:25 |
| Monona | Get error messages when jack's in realtime and it won't start. Kernel is 2.6.31-11-rt | 09:25 |
| ailo | Try aboganis kernel instead. See where that takes you.. | 09:25 |
| Monona | No, I had seen some other PPA also. What is PPA, exactly? Source for software that's not in the repositories, right? | 09:25 |
| Monona | Ah, better rt kernel there? | 09:26 |
| ailo | It's an Ubuntu realtime kernel, but not in the main repo. | 09:26 |
| ailo | Used to be | 09:26 |
| Monona | I'm trying a work around with my MAudio Ozone now, and it seems to work. Just upgraded to Lucid from Hardy yesterday, and still working out the whatnots. | 09:27 |
| ailo | PPA is usually a way for some software to be able to distribute a fresh update on the program, or a development version, without having to build it from source. | 09:27 |
| Monona | Took me awhile to get everything working on Hardy, so I've been biding my time. | 09:28 |
| ailo | Monona: I would think Lucid is the best way to go for now. | 09:28 |
| Monona | I just have to add the PPA to my available repositories, right? | 09:28 |
| ailo | Yeah. You can do it from Synaptic. | 09:29 |
| ailo | Let me know if it works for you. I haven't tried that myself. Do you have a nvidia or ATI graphics? | 09:30 |
| Monona | Alright. I've done that before, from the command line. | 09:30 |
| ailo | Monona: the way to do it might have changed, but perhaps the old way still works? | 09:30 |
| Monona | nvidia on the desktop. Haven't even tried to get that working since I played with it in Hardy and couldn't boot up. Don't really need high end graphics, anyways. | 09:31 |
| Monona | Yeah, I'm going to add the PPA on the laptop. Might hang out with the kernel I've got for now, but it's good to know where another option is. | 09:32 |
| ailo | Otherwise, just copy the line deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu lucid main , and place it in "Synaptic Package Manager -> Settings -> Repositories -> Other software -> Add" | 09:32 |
| ailo | It should start with deb ... :) | 09:33 |
| ailo | Nvidia should work, though rt kernels have often made that hard. | 09:33 |
| Monona | Rather have rt kernel than Nvidia, if it comes down to it. | 09:34 |
| ailo | Were you able to add it? | 09:35 |
| Monona | For now, I want the audio out from the ozone, since it's got a better soundcard than my laptop. I'm trying to get a working setup for some jams tomorrow, so I'm going to spend some time tweaking it later. | 09:37 |
| ailo | Monona: What type of device is that? | 09:38 |
| ailo | M-audio midi board? | 09:39 |
| Monona | Yeah, little two octave deal. | 09:39 |
| ailo | Ah, it has audio too. | 09:39 |
| Monona | Yup. | 09:39 |
| ailo | Were you able to add the PPA? | 09:40 |
| Monona | I'm going to try to run that from my laptop, with the audio out into the audio box on my desktop. | 09:40 |
| ailo | This is the link to the page, if not: https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid | 09:40 |
| Monona | Here, let's see... | 09:42 |
| ailo | Monona: So you use one machine solely as an instrument? | 09:42 |
| Monona | Trying a new setup, yeah. | 09:47 |
| Monona | Laptop solely for puredata, then recording into ardour on desktop. | 09:47 |
| ailo | Puredata is my first choice for most things these days.. | 09:48 |
| Monona | Yup. I'm still feeling my way around it, but I've gotten some good sounds with taking apart samples. | 09:49 |
| Monona | I'd like to get some realtime processing on instruments and mics next. | 09:50 |
| ailo | Monona: Only tried jack-rack a little bit, but use puredata for all of that now. Reverbs and good compression might be a bit hard, but luckily for me, that is not as important. | 09:51 |
| Monona | Jack-rack is what I'm using now. | 09:52 |
| Monona | Seems like puredata could get real interesting. | 09:52 |
| Monona | What do you do to the incoming audio in pd? | 09:52 |
| Monona | BTW, the PPA added. | 09:52 |
| ailo | For control, puredata is hard to replace. For the actual effects, easier to do with plugins, than with puredata, I suspect. | 09:53 |
| Monona | Control as in what? | 09:53 |
| ailo | Controlling multiple parameters, like whatever you want with puredata. You can either use midi, audio or graphics to control either midi, audio or graphics. | 09:55 |
| Monona | Also, the PPA in this thread has Abogani's rtkernel. | 09:55 |
| ailo | Monona: That's the one. | 09:56 |
| Monona | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350304&highlight=music+ppa+lucid | 09:56 |
| Monona | And a bunch of stuff. | 09:56 |
| Monona | I've mostly used it for audio controlled by midi. Haven't gotten into GEM yet. | 09:56 |
| ailo | Right. Falk uses the same kernel as I proposed. Namely, abogani's. | 09:57 |
| Monona | Ah, nice. | 10:17 |
| Monona | Setup working a-ok. | 10:17 |
| ailo | Monona: Did you try installing the nvidia driver? | 10:26 |
| Monona | Nah, I don't feel like messing with that tonight. | 10:27 |
| ailo | Monona: Well, let us know if you do, and it didn't work. | 10:28 |
| Monona | Things are working currently. I'll give it a day or two before I break it again. :) | 10:28 |
| Monona | Yeah, I'm stoked with the setup now. I'll have to try that PPA as well. Lucid seems to work pretty well, with some tweaking. | 10:29 |
| ailo | Monona: Usually, if you install the driver while on the rt kernel, it should work on the rt kernel at least (abogani's ppa includes a nvidia driver). | 10:29 |
| Monona | Good to know. I'm going to get everything worked out on the laptop before I upgrade the desktop and try Nvidia. Will that increase my performance for things like vimeo, etc? | 10:31 |
| ailo | Monona: It should make 3d stuff possible. Somethings, like Flash, I think are the same. You'll notice that the desktop does less frames/time. Don't know any hard stuff, though. | 10:33 |
| Monona | Yeah, I'm pretty much 2d these days. | 10:34 |
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